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The Edict Of Sultan Muhammad Ibn Qalawun Regarding Ibn Taymiyyah by AlBaqir(m): 4:05pm On Jan 14, 2019
The Edict of Sultan Muhammad Ibn Qalawun Regarding Ibn Taymiyyah

This is a translation of the Edict of the honorable Sultan Nasir al-Dunya wa Deen, Muhammad Ibn Qalawun. It was read over the minbar of Masjid Jami’ Dimashq on Friday, in the year 705H:


Bismillah al-Rahman Al-Raheem. Alhamdulillah, Who is clear of having a thing or one similar or equal to Him. Allah said:


Laysa kamithlihi shay, wa huwa Sami’ al-Baseer.
Nothing resembles Him; yet He is the one who hears and sees everything.


I thank Him for inspiring us to act in accords with the Sunnah and the Book, and for lifting in our days reasons for doubt and suspicion. I declare that there is no God except Allah, alone without any partner, a shahada of someone who hopes by his sincerity a good ending, and declares that his Creator is clear of occupying a place in accordance with the saying of Allah:
Wa huwa ma’akum ayna ma kuntum, wallah bima ta’maluna Basir
He is with you (with His knowledge) wherever you are, and Allah sees what you do.
I testify that Muhammad is his slave and Messenger who clarified the route of safety for whoever followed the path of pleasing Him, and who ordered contemplating about the blessings of Allah and forbade thinking about the Self of Allah. May Allah send prayers and peace upon Prophet Muhammad and may Allah have mercy upon his Companions by whom the banner of Iman rose, and through whom Allah codified the rules of Deen, and by whom Allah extinguished the word of whoever deviated from the Haqq and leaned towards innovations.
The Islamic creed, the regarded rules of al-Islam, the Usul al-Din, and the acceptable Madhhabs of this religion are the bases upon which things are built, and the reference to which everyone resorts, and the route that whoever follows will succeed greatly and whoever deviates from is deserving of a painful torture. Therefore, they must be carried out, their permanence considered with harmony, the agitations of innovations extinguished and what gathered of their groups dispersed.
In our time, Ibn Taymiyyah spread his pen, and by his ignorance he extended the reins of his words. He talked about issues of the Self and attributes of Allah, and talked in his invalid words about rejected matters. Additionally, he spoke in regards what the sahabah and tabi’un kept silent about, and about what the righteous salaf wrote against and what the a’immah of al-Islam renounced and what deviated from what the Ijma of the a’immah and rulers had determined. He spread in the regions his fatwa which fooled the minds of the lay people and disagreed with the fuqaha of his time, and the ulama of Levant and Egypt. He sent his letters to every place and gave his fatawa names which have no evidence from what Allah revealed to his Prophet.
When this reached us and what his followers followed of these corrupt routes and showed these conditions and spread them, and we knew that he exploited the ignorance of his people and they obeyed him until it was said that he attributed to Allah, letter, sound, similarity to others, and a body, then we, for the sake of Allah stood up cautious of this news and renounced this bid’ah. It pained us to have this infamy spread in our kingdom. We hated what the false people uttered and recited the saying of Allah, the Exalted:
SubhanAllah amma yusifun.
Glory to Allah; He is clear of what they describe.
He, subhana wa ta’ala is clear of a match or equal as He says:
La tudrikuhul absaru wa huwa yadrikul absara wa huwa Latiful khabir
He is not known by His creation, yet he knows about them.
He is the one who knows the apparent and hidden matters of His creation.
Our edict summoned Ibn Taymiyyah to our high doors when his false fatwa spread in our Levant and Egypt and in them he declared words which when read by any person with a sound mind, he would recite the ayah:
Laqad ji’ta shay’an nukra
You have brought an enormity.
When he arrived to us, we approached the people in charge and those of authentication and reporting.
Re: The Edict Of Sultan Muhammad Ibn Qalawun Regarding Ibn Taymiyyah by AlBaqir(m): 4:07pm On Jan 14, 2019
When he arrived to us, we approached the people in charge and those of authentication and reporting. The judges of al-Islam, the rulers of the people, the scholars of the religion, and the fuqaha of the Muslims came. An Islamic court was conducted for him in the presence of people and a group of a’immah, and those who have knowledge in hearing and refuting. Everything attributed to Ibn Taymiyyah by the saying of whoever is reliable and by his own handwriting which indicates his belief was shown to them. The assembling people departed renouncing his wicked belief, taking him by what his pen testified, reciting the ayah:
Satuktabu shahadatuhum wa yusalun
Their testimony will be written down and they will be asked.
It was reported to us that he had been ordered to repent many times. However, he returned (to his deviant beliefs) after he had been prohibited.
In the court of al-Hakim al-Aziz al-Maliki, the ruling of the honorable Shari’ah was passed to have Ibn Taymiyyah put in prison and to be prevented from disposing of such matters to the public. Our edict writes that no one is to follow what the aforementioned person followed and it forbids imitating believing the like or saying it, or listening to his words imitating him in tashbih (likening Allah to His creation), or to utter what he uttered about the direction of spatial highness or to speak about letter or sound, or to speak at leisure about the Self or attribute or utter any tajsim or utter anything about that which is not correct, or to dissent from the opinions of the a’immah, or to be alone of an opinion away from the scholars of the Ummah, or to attribute to Allah a direction or to allude to Him a place and manner. This belief will receive nothing but the sword.
Let everyone stop at his limit! Everything before and after this is by the will of Allah. Let the Hanabilah leave his belief and leave the serious, deviant, suspected matters and abide by what Allah ta’ala ordered of holding to the praised madhhabs of the people of Iman. Whoever dissents from the order of Allah has lost the way and does not deserve except torture, and his residence should be the long imprisonment; how bad a residence it is.
We decreed that it should be called out in the protected Damascus, the Levant countries and other close and far areas with a serious forbiddance and threat to whoever follows Ibn Taymiyyah in this matter which we have clarified. Whoever follows him will be put in a similar place and will be regarded by the Ummah as he was. Those who insist to refuse our order and insist on defending him will be ordered to be dropped from their schools and offices and be put down from their offices and humiliated. They will have no place judging, ruling, in governance, teaching, testimony, imamah, rank or even residence in our countries. We have removed the call of this man from the countries and we have refuted the belief by which he led or almost led astray many people. How many people did he lead astray, who then corrupted others? Let the Islamic reports be affirmed to the Hanabilah to leave that out and let the reports after its affirmation to be carried out by the Maliki judges. Since we heave warned, we have left no excuse we have been fair. Let our edict be read on the minbars to be the best admonisher and restrainer, and the most just forbidder, by the Will of Allah. Praise be to Allah alone, and His prayers and peace be upon His Prophet, and the sahabah of the Prophet.
The certified reference is upon the above mentioned honorable writing. It was written on the eighteenth of Ramadan in the year 705H.

Re: The Edict Of Sultan Muhammad Ibn Qalawun Regarding Ibn Taymiyyah by AbdulHakeem44(m): 7:10pm On Jan 14, 2019
Are u now saying Ibn taymiyah is from the ignorant scholars?
Re: The Edict Of Sultan Muhammad Ibn Qalawun Regarding Ibn Taymiyyah by AlBaqir(m): 8:43pm On Jan 14, 2019
AbdulHakeem44:
Are u now saying Ibn taymiyah is from the ignorant scholars?

He was an heretic. There was IJMA (consensus) of Ahlu Sunnah Ulama of his time on him, his thoughts, teachings and books to be HERETIC. And he went to prison several times as a result of those verdicts of heretical beliefs. His books were confiscated and he was banned from public preaching.

He was a forgotten scholar for centuries until another heretic like him (Muhammad ibn Abdulwahab) revived his teachings and the Saud family supported the revival then, till date.
Re: The Edict Of Sultan Muhammad Ibn Qalawun Regarding Ibn Taymiyyah by najib632(m): 12:54am On Jan 15, 2019
AlBaqir:


He was an heretic. There was IJMA (consensus) of Ahlu Sunnah Ulama of his time on him, his thoughts, teachings and books to be HERETIC. And he went to prison several times as a result of those verdicts of heretical beliefs. His books were confiscated and he was banned from public preaching.

He was a forgotten scholar for centuries until another heretic like him (Muhammad ibn Abdulwahab) revived his teachings and the Saud family supported the revival then, till date.
Please how can I find more detail about him? And if you can please cite some examples of his beliefs
Re: The Edict Of Sultan Muhammad Ibn Qalawun Regarding Ibn Taymiyyah by AlBaqir(m): 4:21am On Jan 15, 2019
najib632:
Please how can I find more detail about him? And if you can please cite some examples of his beliefs

Note that the issue of Ibn Taymiyyah is like two sides of a coin. The salafis will do anything (even if it is lies) to praise him and tell you that ALL the scholars of his time were jealous of him, that was the reason he was castigated and imprisoned.

Anyway, if you really want to know about Ibn Taymiyyah and his heretical beliefs, you need to read his books and compare his beliefs with classical Sunni beliefs.

You can get a glimpse here:
http://www.myreligionislam.com/detail.asp?Aid=6368
Re: The Edict Of Sultan Muhammad Ibn Qalawun Regarding Ibn Taymiyyah by najib632(m): 6:13am On Jan 15, 2019
AlBaqir:


Note that the issue of Ibn Taymiyyah is like two sides of a coin. The salafis will do anything (even if it is lies) to praise him and tell you that ALL the scholars of his time were jealous of him, that was the reason he was castigated and imprisoned.

Anyway, if you really want to know about Ibn Taymiyyah and his heretical beliefs, you need to read his books and compare his beliefs with classical Sunni beliefs.

You can get a glimpse here:
http://www.myreligionislam.com/detail.asp?Aid=6368
Jazaaka Allahu khairan, Alhamdulillah you no longer curse the sahabah.

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Re: The Edict Of Sultan Muhammad Ibn Qalawun Regarding Ibn Taymiyyah by AbdulHakeem44(m): 8:23am On Jan 15, 2019
AlBaqir:


He was an heretic. There was IJMA (consensus) of Ahlu Sunnah Ulama of his time on him, his thoughts, teachings and books to be HERETIC. And he went to prison several times as a result of those verdicts of heretical beliefs. His books were confiscated and he was banned from public preaching.

He was a forgotten scholar for centuries until another heretic like him (Muhammad ibn Abdulwahab) revived his teachings and the Saud family supported the revival then, till date.
You are a disgrace to Islam, those two scholars you mentioned are Mujaahid. Take it or leave it. Only haters of sunnah speaks bad of them.
Re: The Edict Of Sultan Muhammad Ibn Qalawun Regarding Ibn Taymiyyah by AlBaqir(m): 8:50am On Jan 15, 2019
najib632:
Jazaaka Allahu khairan, Alhamdulillah you no longer curse the sahabah.

# First, no one is talking about sahabah here. How you bring that up is up to you.

# Two, why do you guys like seeking attention and sympathy? Bring just one reference where I ever cursed a sahabi. Just one reference. When we show you in your books where fake sahabi was cursing the Prophet, you will keep mute and dead. And in your weird thought , exposing some sahabah who were munafiqun is "cursing the sahabah". Please wake up to the reality.
Re: The Edict Of Sultan Muhammad Ibn Qalawun Regarding Ibn Taymiyyah by AlBaqir(m): 8:58am On Jan 15, 2019
AbdulHakeem44:

You are a disgrace to Islam, those two scholars you mentioned are Mujaahid. Take it or leave it. Only haters of sunnah speaks bad of them.

Did I interpret you better?

You meant ALL THE AHLU SUNNAH scholars that passed condemnation fatwas based on ijma on ibn Taymiyyah were all disgrace to Islam and haters of SUNNAH, right?

Sunni scholars that rejected muhammad ibn Abdulwahab starting from his elder brother, sheikh Sulayman ibn Abdulwahab, were all disgrace to Islam and haters of SUNNAH?

grin grin grin This is not a fight against Albaqir o.

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Re: The Edict Of Sultan Muhammad Ibn Qalawun Regarding Ibn Taymiyyah by AbdulHakeem44(m): 9:30am On Jan 15, 2019
AlBaqir:


Did I interpret you better?

You meant ALL THE AHLU SUNNAH scholars that passed condemnation fatwas based on ijma on ibn Taymiyyah were all disgrace to Islam and haters of SUNNAH, right?

Sunni scholars that rejected muhammad ibn Abdulwahab starting from his elder brother, sheikh Sulayman ibn Abdulwahab, were all disgrace to Islam and haters of SUNNAH?

grin grin grin This is not a fight against Albaqir o.

Lolxxxxx, no Ahlus sunnah wal jamaa'ah reject Muhammad ibn abdulwahab (rahimahuLlah), only the suffi and other deviant sects does.
Re: The Edict Of Sultan Muhammad Ibn Qalawun Regarding Ibn Taymiyyah by najib632(m): 12:04pm On Jan 15, 2019
AlBaqir:


# First, no one is talking about sahabah here. How you bring that up is up to you.

# Two, why do you guys like seeking attention and sympathy? Bring just one reference where I ever cursed a sahabi. Just one reference. When we show you in your books where fake sahabi was cursing the Prophet, you will keep mute and dead. And in your weird thought , exposing some sahabah who were munafiqun is "cursing the sahabah". Please wake up to the reality.
I am not seeking your attention and sympathy, it's everyone to his own grave. You used to accuse Abubakar and Umar of various things, I am not saying that there were no sahaba who were not munafiqun, as long as you present anything with facts I will accept, by Allah you're doing a good Job because through you I can scrutinise some hadith that claim to be sahih from logic. Please don't be vexed by what I said, If cursing was the wrong word then I replace it with accuse.
Re: The Edict Of Sultan Muhammad Ibn Qalawun Regarding Ibn Taymiyyah by AlBaqir(m): 3:57pm On Jan 15, 2019
najib632:
You used to accuse Abubakar and Umar of various things,

I'm I accusing them falsely or ignorantly? The concern of their accusations should rather be directed to those ahadith collectors who recorded their other sides. For example, you people believed them to be rightly guided caliph even with no single proof. Yet, what they did repeatedly as documented in your books of ahadith are opposing Allah and His Prophet, knowingly. How's that "accusation"?

We have opened different threads pertaining to those 3 caliphs. If ANYBODY thinks what we have submitted are inaccurate, incorrect and false, the door of refutation is widely open.
Re: The Edict Of Sultan Muhammad Ibn Qalawun Regarding Ibn Taymiyyah by najib632(m): 4:27pm On Jan 15, 2019
AlBaqir:


I'm I accusing them falsely or ignorantly? The concern of their accusations should rather be directed to those ahadith collectors who recorded their other sides. For example, you people believed them to be rightly guided caliph even with no single proof. Yet, what they did repeatedly as documented in your books of ahadith are opposing Allah and His Prophet, knowingly. How's that "accusation"?

We have opened different threads pertaining to those 3 caliphs. If ANYBODY thinks what we have submitted are inaccurate, incorrect and false, the door of refutation is widely open.
In shaa Allah I will soon be able to refute your claims, but I am not as knowledgeable as you are so you will be vexed if I even try to argue with you.
Re: The Edict Of Sultan Muhammad Ibn Qalawun Regarding Ibn Taymiyyah by Empiree: 7:07pm On Jan 15, 2019
AbdulHakeem44:


Lolxxxxx, no Ahlus sunnah wal jamaa'ah reject Muhammad ibn abdulwahab (rahimahuLlah), only the suffi and other deviant sects does.
I hope you understand that Sheikhul Islam Ibn Taymiyyah (ra) is 50% Sufi implicitly and 50% salafi outwardly?.

Salafis only took credit for his profile and manipulated it to suit their whims. I do not agree that Sheikhul Islam Ibn Taymiyyah (ra) was ignorant but he definitely made mistakes.
Re: The Edict Of Sultan Muhammad Ibn Qalawun Regarding Ibn Taymiyyah by AbdulHakeem44(m): 7:52pm On Jan 15, 2019
Empiree:
I hope you understand that Sheikhul Islam Ibn Taymiyyah (ra) is 50% Sufi implicitly and 50% salafi outwardly?.

Salafis only took credit for his profile and manipulated it to suit their whims. I do not agree that Sheikhul Islam Ibn Taymiyyah (ra) was ignorant but he definitely made mistakes.

Yes, this is what you would have said in the beginning, every scholar us prone to mistake cos they are humans, and that is why we mustn't do taqleed (blind follow). But what you regard as his mistake may not be a what I regard as mistake depending on our ideologies
Re: The Edict Of Sultan Muhammad Ibn Qalawun Regarding Ibn Taymiyyah by Empiree: 10:03pm On Jan 15, 2019
AbdulHakeem44:


Yes, this is what you would have said in the beginning, every scholar us prone to mistake cos they are humans, and that is why we mustn't do taqleed (blind follow). But what you regard as his mistake may not be a what I regard as mistake depending on our ideologies
I never commented. That was my first comment. You must have mistaken me for someone else.
Re: The Edict Of Sultan Muhammad Ibn Qalawun Regarding Ibn Taymiyyah by AbdulHakeem44(m): 11:07pm On Jan 15, 2019
Empiree:
I never commented. That was my first comment. You must have mistaken me for someone else.

Ooooh sorry, I didn't check the name. I have withdrawn my statement. Robi igfirlii.
Re: The Edict Of Sultan Muhammad Ibn Qalawun Regarding Ibn Taymiyyah by AlBaqir(m): 4:47am On Jan 16, 2019
najib632:
In shaa Allah I will soon be able to refute your claims, but I am not as knowledgeable as you are so you will be vexed if I even try to argue with you.

Vex? I'm not an animal. I am a reasonable gentleman to the core. However, I don't condone rubbish.
Re: The Edict Of Sultan Muhammad Ibn Qalawun Regarding Ibn Taymiyyah by najib632(m): 4:50am On Jan 16, 2019
AlBaqir:


Vex? I'm not an animal. I am a reasonable gentleman to the core. However, I don't condone rubbish.
SubuhanalLah, how can you be an animal I meant you will be vexed at my ignorance.
Re: The Edict Of Sultan Muhammad Ibn Qalawun Regarding Ibn Taymiyyah by AlBaqir(m): 5:11am On Jan 16, 2019
Empiree:
I. I do not agree that Sheikhul Islam Ibn Taymiyyah (ra) was ignorant but he definitely made mistakes.

So, you believe those Ahlu Sunnah scholars who via ijma excommunicated ibn Taymiyyah went too far and did not gave him plenty of time and excuse to revert and repent his heresies?

Ibn Taymiyyah was a full blown heretic. Obviously, you haven't read any of his books. Have you ever read it, you will imagine the extent of his heresy.

All the muslim terrorists today follow ibn Taymiyyah and his heretical carbon copy ibn Abdulwahab's fatawas. Their respective books are being followed by letters by these terrorists. Egypt, Jordan, Turkey and several other Muslim countries have banned his books. Several scholars of Ahlu Sunnah from his contemporary till date have written books to refute his heresies. Some claimed with no proof that he repented before he died but the biggest problem is how the Saudis (with their usurped wealth) sponsoring their wahabi scholars (their Nigerian footsoldiers inclusive) continue to revive him and his heretical beliefs.

It's time you face the reality bro. Ibn Taymiyyah was a pure heretic immitated by ibn Abdulwahab who proved to be more heretical can than his "teacher". Ibn Abdulwahab practiced what ibn Taymiyyah could not. ANYBODY be it Sunni, Sufi or Shia or whatever that did not subscribe to his interpretation and understanding of Islam was put to death. Ibn Abdulwahab massacre Hajj pilgrims claiming they were Kuffar. He went to the city of Karbala on the day of Ashura when the Shia were mourning the death of Prophet's grandson, he massacred them, destroyed the grave of Hussein and plundered the city inhabitants' wealth claiming it is halal. Even if they were truly Kuffar, is that how to treat them?

# How do Muslim terrorists operate today?

Those were cursed scholars if at all they were ever scholars.
Re: The Edict Of Sultan Muhammad Ibn Qalawun Regarding Ibn Taymiyyah by AlBaqir(m): 5:18am On Jan 16, 2019
najib632:
SubuhanalLah, how can you be an animal I meant you will be vexed at my ignorance.

To be vex with no justification is an attribute of an animal. The only kind of "ignorance" that can vexed me is one that is accompanied by arrogance and deviance. That was attribute of satan. Alhamadulillah you have never displayed that unlike some folks on this NL. So how on earth will I get vexed if the intention of the speaker is pure?
Re: The Edict Of Sultan Muhammad Ibn Qalawun Regarding Ibn Taymiyyah by Empiree: 6:36am On Jan 16, 2019
AlBaqir:


So, you believe those Ahlu Sunnah scholars who via ijma excommunicated ibn Taymiyyah went too far and did not gave him plenty of time and excuse to revert and repent his heresies?

Ibn Taymiyyah was a full blown heretic. Obviously, you haven't read any of his books. Have you ever read it, you will imagine the extent of his heresy.
regardless, it should be considered his mistakes because he was upright on many other issues too. Alhusunnah of his time simply critisized him on some issues they believed he deviated that I don't agree with him either.




All the muslim terrorists today follow ibn Taymiyyah and his heretical carbon copy ibn Abdulwahab's fatawas. Their respective books are being followed by letters by these terrorists. Egypt, Jordan, Turkey and several other Muslim countries have banned his books. Several scholars of Ahlu Sunnah from his contemporary till date have written books to refute his heresies. Some claimed with no proof that he repented before he died but the biggest problem is how the Saudis (with their usurped wealth) sponsoring their wahabi scholars (their Nigerian footsoldiers inclusive) continue to revive him and his heretical beliefs.
I have always refrained from making this statement that ibn Taymiyyah (ra) was grand father of modern day terrorists. I believe that these people these days have twisted and manipulated his work as well. Take for instance the issue of Mawlid, he never really go against it. But modern Alhusunnah if Salafi section twisted him.



It's time you face the reality bro. Ibn Taymiyyah was a pure heretic immitated by ibn Abdulwahab who proved to be more heretical can than his "teacher". Ibn Abdulwahab practiced what ibn Taymiyyah could not. ANYBODY be it Sunni, Sufi or Shia or whatever that did not subscribe to his interpretation and understanding of Islam was put to death. Ibn Abdulwahab massacre Hajj pilgrims claiming they were Kuffar. He went to the city of Karbala on the day of Ashura when the Shia were mourning the death of Prophet's grandson, he massacred them, destroyed the grave of Hussein and plundered the city inhabitants' wealth claiming it is halal. Even if they were truly Kuffar, is that how to treat them?
Allah will judge them accordingly. I know Ibn Abdulwahab went too far too.
Re: The Edict Of Sultan Muhammad Ibn Qalawun Regarding Ibn Taymiyyah by AlBaqir(m): 9:53am On Jan 16, 2019
Empiree:
regardless, it should be considered his mistakes because he was upright on many other issues too.


Something is a "mistake" if the person that committed it agreed to it being a mistake. Ibn Taymiyyah was an unrepentant fanatic. His heresies cannot be labeled as "mistakes".
Re: The Edict Of Sultan Muhammad Ibn Qalawun Regarding Ibn Taymiyyah by AlBaqir(m): 9:53am On Jan 16, 2019
LEAST OF THE CRAZIEST FATAWA OF IBN TAYMIYYAH

# Shaykh Ibn Taymiyyah again says in his Majmu’ al-Fatawa, vol. 2, p. 9 (1386 edition):

"All Muslims are unanimous on the fact that he (the Muslim) must pray Ẓuhr and ‘Aṣr during daytime and al-Fajr before sunrise. He must not abandon that because of any occupation or fun or any of the other activities. The master cannot forbid his slave, nor can the employer forbid his employee, from performing ṣalāt at its time. Whoever delays it because of any occupation, or any hunting, or any service to the teacher, or any other reason, till the sun sets, it is obligatory to punish him. In fact, it is obligatory to kill him, according to the majority of the scholars, after he has been asked to repent. If he repents and takes an undertaking to pray at the right time, he must be bound by that. But, if he says “I will not pray until after sunset” because of he is busy at work, or hunting or for any other reason, he should be killed."
http://islamport.com/d/3/tym/1/16/85.html



# Then, there is this ultra-dangerous fatwa of the Shaykh. If a non-Salafi Muslim – such as a Sufi or a Shi'i – decides not to openly practise his faith out of fear, he must be killed even if he repents. The Shaykh in his Majmu’ al-Fatawa, vol. 28, p. 555, declares:



"With regards to the killing of someone who publicly displays Islam and hides his kufr, and this is the hypocrite whom the jurists call the zindiq, the majority of the jurists are of the opinion that he must be killed even if he repents. This was the view of Malik, Aḥmad in the most apparent of the two reports from him, one of the two opinions in the madhhab of Abu Ḥanifah, and al-Shafi’i. Whichever of them is a caller to their misguidance, and his evil cannot be stopped except by killing him, he should be killed too, even if he publicly repents, and even if he is not declared a kafir, like the Rafidi Imams who mislead the people, as the Muslims killed Ghilan al-Qadri, al-Ja’d b. Dirham and similar other people among the callers. This liar must be killed unconditionally."
http://islamport.com/d/3/tym/1/40/377.html

https://www.nairaland.com/3170976/terrorism-salafism-vs-islamic-rules
Re: The Edict Of Sultan Muhammad Ibn Qalawun Regarding Ibn Taymiyyah by AlBaqir(m): 9:57am On Jan 16, 2019
Empiree:

I have always refrained from making this statement that ibn Taymiyyah (ra) was grand father of modern day terrorists. I believe that these people these days have twisted and manipulated his work as well.

Seat back and read:
https://www.nairaland.com/3170976/terrorism-salafism-vs-islamic-rules/2
Re: The Edict Of Sultan Muhammad Ibn Qalawun Regarding Ibn Taymiyyah by najib632(m): 12:09pm On Jan 16, 2019
AlBaqir:


To be vex with no justification is an attribute of an animal. The only kind of "ignorance" that can vexed me is one that is accompanied by arrogance and deviance. That was attribute of satan. Alhamadulillah you have never displayed that unlike some folks on this NL. So how on earth will I get vexed if the intention of the speaker is pure?
Alhamdulillah I understand you now, but arguing blindingly is a sign of ignorance, so I cannot do that.
Re: The Edict Of Sultan Muhammad Ibn Qalawun Regarding Ibn Taymiyyah by Empiree: 12:49pm On Jan 16, 2019
Re: The Edict Of Sultan Muhammad Ibn Qalawun Regarding Ibn Taymiyyah by Rashduct4luv(m): 10:29am On Jan 17, 2019
Everyone has his mistakes and similarly everyone has enemies. Why not mention Scholars that praised him to be fair to him?

After you finish criticising Abu-Hurairah, Bukhari,..., now it's ibn Taymiyyah right? Oga Shi'a oti da fun yin bayen!

Biography of Ibn Taymiyyah.

https://www.nairaland.com/4484077/biography-ibn-taymiyyah
Re: The Edict Of Sultan Muhammad Ibn Qalawun Regarding Ibn Taymiyyah by BeansAndBread(m): 5:00pm On Jan 17, 2019
najib632:
I am not seeking your attention and sympathy, it's everyone to his own grave. You used to accuse Abubakar and Umar of various things, I am not saying that there were no sahaba who were not munafiqun, as long as you present anything with facts I will accept, by Allah you're doing a good Job because through you I can scrutinise some hadith that claim to be sahih from logic. Please don't be vexed by what I said, If cursing was the wrong word then I replace it with accuse.
What's up with you exactly? undecided I hope you aren't some undercover soofee because I've been noticing your posts on this forum and I don't where exactly you stand.
Re: The Edict Of Sultan Muhammad Ibn Qalawun Regarding Ibn Taymiyyah by BeansAndBread(m): 5:02pm On Jan 17, 2019
AlBaqir:


Vex? I'm not an animal. I am a reasonable gentleman to the core. However, I don't condone rubbish.
A man that slaps and beats himself isn't a gentleman o
Re: The Edict Of Sultan Muhammad Ibn Qalawun Regarding Ibn Taymiyyah by najib632(m): 5:21pm On Jan 17, 2019
BeansAndBread:
What's up with you exactly? undecided I hope you aren't some undercover soofee because I've been noticing your posts on this forum and I don't where exactly you stand.
Haha no I am no undercover Sufi... There are some hadith he criticised that have scandals while some don't, a brother had already addressed the hadith that he claims are wrong but are not like The bewitchment of the prophet, so I didn't see the use of challenging him because I don't have much knowledge, before I talk of something I make sure I understand it... Or does he have a lot of controversies I don't know about?

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