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Re: British MPs Vote Against Brexit Deal by SachaBastien(m): 4:51pm On Jan 16, 2019 |
NNEWIsuper:"Soft" Brexit as you put it was what the British Parliament shut down yesterday. It involves accepting trade negotiations reached on behalf of the U.K. by Theresa May with the European Union. It also involves the U.K. remaining within the E.U. Customs Union. The parliamentarians voted against this deal and thus the U.K. would pull out of the E.U. without a deal on trade,jobs,taxation and Customs, which is "hard" Brexit. |
Re: British MPs Vote Against Brexit Deal by NNEWIsuper: 6:09pm On Jan 16, 2019 |
SachaBastien:ok..thanks for your time and good explanation |
Re: British MPs Vote Against Brexit Deal by tzoracle: 8:46pm On Jan 16, 2019 |
humnsikan: look at the demographic of the votes, because it's a union therefore scotland and Northern Ireland should suffer |
Re: British MPs Vote Against Brexit Deal by Nobody: 10:17pm On Jan 16, 2019 |
I don't think most people were informed about the consequences of Brexit. If given another choice, most might actually vote against a Brexit. 1 Like |
Re: British MPs Vote Against Brexit Deal by Gerrard59(m): 10:31am On Jan 17, 2019 |
KratosCorp: While I agree with some of your points, I beg to disagree with the bold. Power, economic at least, is heading east. And nothing can change it. |
Re: British MPs Vote Against Brexit Deal by KratosCorp: 1:09pm On Jan 17, 2019 |
On what premise do you base your argument? Population? Liberal propaganda? Religion? Well, the reality is that virtually ALL the novel technologies and dominant IPs (in science, economics, military), of at least the near and foreseeable future are already domiciled in the West - especially the US. For goodness sake, the US is already establishing what it calls a "Space Force". Do you know the level of economic, scientific and military muscle that power such a futuristic out-of-this-world project? Can you imagine the kind of unprecedented leverage and dominance the US stands to gain in the future of this world as a result of her first mover advantage in this area alone? It will be similar to, but much bigger and consequential than, the advantage the atomic/nuclear science gave them during and after the second world war. Yet, here you are talking about power going to the East (because of the many noise and propaganda emanating from an overpopulated and still undeveloped economy called China). Well done o. Gerrard59: |
Re: British MPs Vote Against Brexit Deal by Gerrard59(m): 2:53pm On Jan 17, 2019 |
KratosCorp: The east is the world's most populated region where there has been an explosion in the middle class category - people who consume lots of products. An example is Mercedes-Benz getting quite a lot of sales in the east - China specifically. Or Apple projecting a drop in revenue because of the trade war and slump in demand in the east? Western nations are projected to decline in population (Germany, Spain, Greece, Italy etc. https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjDhpuu_PTfAhWKzIUKHZl5DkIQzPwBegQIARAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.economist.com%2Fgraphic-detail%2F2017%2F07%2F12%2Fwhy-europe-needs-more-migrants&psig=AOvVaw3r98FaHtb4EAqiGuLi___L&ust=1547819837965925). In fact, there has been a rapid decline in Eastern European nations. However, unlike Japan which has propinquity to these markets, UK, France and others don't have same. Unemployment is at skyrocketed levels in the west ditto a decline in standards of living not forgetting security of lives. Another mention is the rise in funky politics - gender politics is an example. Well, the reality is that virtually ALL the novel technologies and dominant IPs (in science, economics, military), of at least the near and foreseeable future are already domiciled in the West - especially the US. You're right here. However, there has been a tremendous increase of patents' applications in the east notably China - which is the biggest market for EVs ditto clean energy - something the west preaches more than the east. China which was at the nadir of patents and science is almost if not at the zenith. https://www.wipo.int/pressroom/en/articles/2017/article_0013.html For goodness sake, the US is already establishing what it calls a "Space Force". Do you know the level of economic, scientific and military muscle that power such a futuristic out-of-this-world project India, China and even Japan are going to space. Yes, the US has passed that level but apart from her, which other western nation is advancing in that aspect? Can you imagine the kind of unprecedented leverage and dominance the US stands to gain in the future of this world as a result of her first mover advantage in this area alone? It will be similar to, but much bigger and consequential than, the advantage the atomic/nuclear science gave them during and after the second world war. Yet, here you are talking about power going to the East (because of the many noise and propaganda emanating from an overpopulated and still undeveloped economy called China) Unfortunately to you, it's not noise but reality. China might be undeveloped (but rapidly developing) but same population western nations desire by importing folks from the ME is what eastern nations have NATURALLY in large quantities. We're talking about the biggest consumer of pork, cement, oil, rice, soybeans, coal; rapidly developing top class tertiary institutions etc as a continent. The demand will come from the east. Is it news that western companies practically demand on the east for demand? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: British MPs Vote Against Brexit Deal by jiddama(f): 5:51pm On Jan 17, 2019 |
@Gerrard59 ....thank you for this, I deliberately allow the issue to rest he refuses to see the situation on ground. Nobody is saying China will overtake US tommorow, its more regional power shifting gradually. The world is watching UK, how do go forward with the brexit and EU in the aftermath. I only said the Chinese are becoming more open while the two powerful nations who dominated the last 2 centuries are retreating into themselves. UK was one of the biggest benefactors of EU , they took advantage of trade policies to dominate the markets with their products in the poorer states thereby strengthening their influence and economy, make these nations play catch up all the time. The east consist of so much more than China. Australia the one nation that withstood recession, Russia, Singapore, Japan, India and co....are all out there.It's all about the numbers game and they are learning to protect their regional interests. Once upon a time nobody dares crosses the US and UK but with these decisions developing economies will start looking elsewhere. And that is where they lose their bargaining chip. |
Re: British MPs Vote Against Brexit Deal by Gerrard59(m): 6:37pm On Jan 17, 2019 |
jiddama: Thanks a lot. The bold is what our gentleman doesn't understand not necessarily know. Such can be seen in how Shinzo Abe singlehandedly revamped TPP which constitute c.14% of the global economy or the Silk Way by China or AIB or ASEAN - a group of over 600 million consumers. Regarding the italized line, like Nlders will ask, how many fvcks were given? None. 2 Likes |
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