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Re: Why NJC Can’t Consider Onnoghen’s Case - Prof Itse Sagay by PaChukwudi44(m): 11:16am On Jan 17, 2019
mrvitalis:

A professor of law as stated that the NJC can only come in when it involves professional misconduct ( doing wrong On the job) not a personal offense

And that makes sense... If I judge takes bribe u can't try him until the njc look into it,

But if a job steals... The NJC has no business there.... If u can disprove the prof

a professor of law is not a law court.The appeal court ruling stands and come Jan 22 the CJN will not appear before any kangaroo tribunal
Re: Why NJC Can’t Consider Onnoghen’s Case - Prof Itse Sagay by PaChukwudi44(m): 11:17am On Jan 17, 2019
Ovamboland:


if the CJN knows he committed the infraction it's honorable for him to resign his appointment than subject the whole legal system to this level of stress. He should advise the politicians getting involved to back off and let him handle his case alone.
The fact that he is still holding on, if he truly failed to declare those accounts, tells a lot about his character and intentions.
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He will never resign.You people can only dream.Your hope of manipulating the judiciary is dead on arrival
Re: Why NJC Can’t Consider Onnoghen’s Case - Prof Itse Sagay by orisa37: 11:21am On Jan 17, 2019
Racoon:
-1).The ICPC/police gave silly silly reason why they cant arrest or prosecute Kemi Adeosun.

-2).EFCC have also given reason why Maina could not be arrested/prosecuted.Now they're also telling a bewildered nation why the DSS-indicted APC party chair should not be investigated.

-3).Prof.Sagay have justified why Madam Kemi should continue in her forgery/perjury criminality.


-4).Obono-Obla have justified why Abdulrasheed Maina should be retained back then by the government.

-5).President Buhari have defended & exornerated Lawal Babachir/Ibrahim Magu/NHIS Sec & now the almighty Ganduje babanriga bullion van dollar bribe scandal even calling him a "responsible" corrupt man with integrity.)

-6).Lawal Daura have defended why Ayo Oke(NIA/Ikoyi-gate) and Ita Epenyong should never be investigated by the EFCC.

[b]-7).The presidency have exonerated Aisha #2.5B "gifts" Scandal, VP Osinbajo's 5.58B NEMA scandal, Ahmed Sirika's #1.5B imaginary "Air Nigeria" scam.

Pls argue with your brain as far as this govt.is concerned.



I personally stopped taking Sagay serious since Sagay defended Kemi Adeosun NYSC certificate forgery scandal and Obono-Obla defended the Abdulrasheed Maina scandal.
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The 1999 Constitution we are using is Chaos. We shall not continue with every Nigerian playing silly games with one another forever.
Re: Why NJC Can’t Consider Onnoghen’s Case - Prof Itse Sagay by bkool7(m): 11:24am On Jan 17, 2019
PaChukwudi44:

Did you stand up against coruption when Ganduje was caught stuffing dollars in babaringa?
Every sane Nigerians condemned the Ganduje scandal.

The matter is already in court even though the governor has immunity
Re: Why NJC Can’t Consider Onnoghen’s Case - Prof Itse Sagay by PaChukwudi44(m): 11:29am On Jan 17, 2019
bkool7:

Every sane Nigerians condemned the Ganduje scandal.

The matter is already in court even though the governor has immunity

SHEBI THE CONSTITUTION GRANTED TEH GOVERNOR IMMUNITY AND IT IS BEEN OBEYED ? THE SAME CONSTITUTION SAYS GO THROUGH THE NJC TO PROSECUTE THE CJN SO WHAT IS THE FUSS ALL ABOUT?
Re: Why NJC Can’t Consider Onnoghen’s Case - Prof Itse Sagay by orisa37: 11:32am On Jan 17, 2019
SaiAtikuTill203:
Increased fuel price from 87 to 145 naira per litre
Crashed naira value from 180naira per dollar to 365 naira per dollar
Made Nigeria the capital poverty of the world
Supervised the greatest job loss in the history of global democracy
Led and supported the killing of minority’s middle belt by Fulani herdsmen
Threatened citizens to give up their lands for ranches or get killed by herdsmen
Led the highest looting of the nations treasury among the cabal
Continues to shield criminals like maina, ganduje etc
Nepotism and tribalism has become the order of the day
Divided Nigeria more than any other government
This is the same government that certain people who call themselves humans are supporting for re-election
Obviously Nigerians have not suffered enough. The day Nigerians get to ground zero is the day they will fight for their lives
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Tit for Tat Governance is not good. The World will only classify Nigeria as Sodom and Gomorrah.
Re: Why NJC Can’t Consider Onnoghen’s Case - Prof Itse Sagay by Igbokid: 11:37am On Jan 17, 2019
PaChukwudi44:


SHEBI THE CONSTITUTION GRANTED TEH GOVERNOR IMMUNITY AND IT IS BEEN OBEYED ? THE SAME CONSTITUTION SAYS GO THROUGH THE NJC TO PROSECUTE THE CJN SO WHAT IS THE FUSS ALL ABOUT?
You are a dishonest clown..
What part of the constitution confers the CJN immunity against prosecution
Re: Why NJC Can’t Consider Onnoghen’s Case - Prof Itse Sagay by bkool7(m): 11:43am On Jan 17, 2019
PaChukwudi44:


SHEBI THE CONSTITUTION GRANTED TEH GOVERNOR IMMUNITY AND IT IS BEEN OBEYED ? THE SAME CONSTITUTION SAYS GO THROUGH THE NJC TO PROSECUTE THE CJN SO WHAT IS THE FUSS ALL ABOUT?

Which constitution says CJN should investigate judges on criminal matters?
Re: Why NJC Can’t Consider Onnoghen’s Case - Prof Itse Sagay by orisa37: 11:43am On Jan 17, 2019
pentax:
Like if you didn't bother to read the hogwash above
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The Constitution does not specify who controls Corruption in Judiciary and at NASS. Buhari just usurps the Responsiblity as The President.
Re: Why NJC Can’t Consider Onnoghen’s Case - Prof Itse Sagay by PaChukwudi44(m): 12:22pm On Jan 17, 2019
bkool7:


Which constitution says CJN should investigate judges on criminal matters?
NJC not CJN
Re: Why NJC Can’t Consider Onnoghen’s Case - Prof Itse Sagay by PaChukwudi44(m): 12:23pm On Jan 17, 2019
Igbokid:

You are a dishonest clown..
What part of the constitution confers the CJN immunity against prosecution


Who mentioned immunity here? The law says he can only be prosecuted after the NJC indicts him
Re: Why NJC Can’t Consider Onnoghen’s Case - Prof Itse Sagay by Friend01(m): 4:41pm On Jan 17, 2019
mrvitalis:

A professor of law as stated that the NJC can only come in when it involves professional misconduct ( doing wrong On the job) not a personal offense

And that makes sense... If I judge takes bribe u can't try him until the njc look into it,

But if a job steals... The NJC has no business there.... If u can disprove the prof


That prof is just being sentimental.
The case of former appeal court judge Ninginwa is been used as the yardstick whereas they are total different.

The CJN committed a civil crime by not declaring his asset; hence the case is not a case where the CJN committed an offence in carrying out his duties as a judicial official,he committed this offence outside the purview of his job.

The substance of the case is that he committed an offence in breach of the law, that can not be referred to the NJC which he happens to be the chairman therefore, he can't be a judge in his own case.

So, no matter the argument you try to bring up he clearly has to face the CCT .
Re: Why NJC Can’t Consider Onnoghen’s Case - Prof Itse Sagay by Friend01(m): 4:47pm On Jan 17, 2019
PaChukwudi44:


Who mentioned immunity here? The law says he can only be prosecuted after the NJC indicts him



Mister man, the law is not one-sided.
He breached a civil law as a civil servant not as a judge which the NJC has jurisdiction over.

So, for instance if a judicial officer commits an offence let's say murder: you mean he has to be brought before the NJC before he is taken to court?!
Is this not the height of hypocrisy.

You want him to be a judge in his own case?

Ask yourself who will question him when they take his case to the NJC which he happens to be chairing the council.

Abeg, the joke has gone too far.
Re: Why NJC Can’t Consider Onnoghen’s Case - Prof Itse Sagay by PaChukwudi44(m): 4:49pm On Jan 17, 2019
Friend01:



That prof is just being sentimental.
The case of former appeal court judge Ninginwa is been used as the yardstick whereas they are total different.

The CJN committed a civil crime by not declaring his asset; hence the case is not a case where the CJN committed an offence in carrying out his duties as a judicial official,he committed this offence outside the purview of his job.

The substance of the case is that he committed an offence in breach of the law, that can not be referred to the NJC which he happens to be the chairman therefore, he can't be a judge in his own case.

So, no matter the argument you try to bring up he clearly has to face the CCT .
Continuing arguing in nairaland.The CJN will never appear in the dock let alone standing trial.

The FHC has already stopped the kangaroo tribunal from sitting.

The argument of been the chairman of NJC is lame.You people should have thought of that before blackmailing him.If the law says NJC then NJC it must be.There is no sentiments in law.

The appeal court judgment remains the law today.if you are not satisfied head to the supreme court.
Re: Why NJC Can’t Consider Onnoghen’s Case - Prof Itse Sagay by Friend01(m): 4:49pm On Jan 17, 2019
mrvitalis:

A professor of law as stated that the NJC can only come in when it involves professional misconduct ( doing wrong On the job) not a personal offense

And that makes sense... If I judge takes bribe u can't try him until the njc look into it,

But if a job steals... The NJC has no business there.... If u can disprove the prof

We are saying the same thing. or aren't we?
Re: Why NJC Can’t Consider Onnoghen’s Case - Prof Itse Sagay by PaChukwudi44(m): 4:54pm On Jan 17, 2019
Friend01:




Mister man, the law is not one-sided.
He breached a civil law as a civil servant not as a judge which the NJC has jurisdiction over.

So, for instance if a judicial officer commits an offence let's say murder: you mean he has to be brought before the NJC before he is taken to court?!
Is this not the height of hypocrisy.

You want him to be a judge in his own case?

Ask yourself who will question him when they take his case to the NJC which he happens to be chairing the council.

Abeg, the joke has gone too far.
Whether a supreme court judge commits murder,rape,kidnapped or even coup.The law says take him to the NJC.Is that too difficult to understand?

The immunity for Governors,deputy Governors,presidents and vice presidents does it not cover murder cases as well? Why are you been sentimental?

The presidency controls the police,EFCC,ICPC,CCT yet it is supposed to investigate the president's appointees and political allies.Why are you not also talking about that.
Re: Why NJC Can’t Consider Onnoghen’s Case - Prof Itse Sagay by PaChukwudi44(m): 5:00pm On Jan 17, 2019
The framers of the constitution forsaw a situation where a tyranical president would abuse his executive powers and start molesting judicial officers to get favourable judgements.

This was why the National judicial council was created to protect judicial workers from intimidation.The NJC was created for the likes of president Buhari.
Re: Why NJC Can’t Consider Onnoghen’s Case - Prof Itse Sagay by Friend01(m): 5:33pm On Jan 17, 2019
PaChukwudi44:

Whether a supreme court judge commits murder,rape,kidnapped or even coup.The law says take him to the NJC.Is that too difficult to understand?

The immunity for Governors,deputy Governors,presidents and vice presidents does it not cover murder cases as well? Why are you been sentimental?

The presidency controls the police,EFCC,ICPC,CCT yet it is supposed to investigate the president's appointees and political allies.Why are you not also talking about that.


This case is clearly not a case that can be referred to the NJC oga.
can't you see the point?
If he made an infraction in the process of carrying out his duties as a judge then the NJC can have a say in this, but he breached a law in the declarations of his asset has a public official which require a separate inquiry from the body he represents.

If for instance,an engineer errs in let's say in the design of a building and it results in a collapse the building the parent body "COREN " will hold him responsible for his actions maybe by stripping him off his qualification has an engineer before he is handed over to the police for onward persecution; but if he murders, rapes or pilfers then his case is as good as the common criminal in the street.

And you don't expect the CJN who is the chairman of the NJC to preside over his own case.

Tell me how will he do it without him resigning from his seat?
how?

You people are just peddling undiluted ignorance which you can't sufficiently explain without ambiguity.

I rest my case.
Re: Why NJC Can’t Consider Onnoghen’s Case - Prof Itse Sagay by adekolaelect(m): 8:16pm On Jan 17, 2019
Hatred ,politics with bitterness ,hunger has tune society /Nigerian to something else bcs there is no more free money in the circulation .

Re: Why NJC Can’t Consider Onnoghen’s Case - Prof Itse Sagay by PaChukwudi44(m): 9:28am On Jan 18, 2019
Friend01:



This case is clearly not a case that can be referred to the NJC oga.
can't you see the point?
If he made an infraction in the process of carrying out his duties as a judge then the NJC can have a say in this, but he breached a law in the declarations of his asset has a public official which require a separate inquiry from the body he represents.

If for instance,an engineer errs in let's say in the design of a building and it results in a collapse the building the parent body "COREN " will hold him responsible for his actions maybe by stripping him off his qualification has an engineer before he is handed over to the police for onward persecution; but if he murders, rapes or pilfers then his case is as good as the common criminal in the street.

And you don't expect the CJN who is the chairman of the NJC to preside over his own case.

Tell me how will he do it without him resigning from his seat?
how?

You people are just peddling undiluted ignorance which you can't sufficiently explain without ambiguity.

I rest my case.


then allow the courts to rule.The case is already at the FHC Abuja

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