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Obama A Muslim? by abulbanaat(m): 10:41pm On Aug 19, 2010
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-11027568

Perhaps he is another Christian leader who conceals his Faith as Negus of Abyssinia did in the time of Prophet Muhammad (sallalahu alayhi wa sallam); or at least as the Heraclitus of Rome did when he heard about him.

Obama, go on concealing your Faith lest they assassinate you after all you were a Muslim by birth remember your name is [Mu]baraak Hussayn O[s]bama.

Christians, if Obama is indeed (or becomes) a Muslim know that it is for his own benefit; Islam is already honourable. A non-Muslim will only have honour when he becomes a Muslim. You may not understand this, ask [and see] those who have become Muslims.

I think Mike Tyson is still on Umrah.
Re: Obama A Muslim? by thehomer: 5:07pm On Aug 21, 2010
abulbanaat:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-11027568

Perhaps he is another Christian leader who conceals his Faith as Negus of Abyssinia did in the time of Prophet Muhammad (sallalahu alayhi wa sallam); or at least as the Heraclitus of Rome did when he heard about him.

Obama, go on concealing your Faith lest they assassinate you after all you were a Muslim by birth remember your name is [Mu]baraak Hussayn O[s]bama.

Christians, if Obama is indeed (or becomes) a Muslim know that it is for his own benefit; Islam is already honourable. A non-Muslim will only have honour when he becomes a Muslim. You may not understand this, ask [and see] those who have become Muslims.

I think Mike Tyson is still on Umrah.

What makes you think he's a muslim? He has said he's a christian. The article you posted says he is incorrectly believed to be a muslim. Note this "Incorrectly."
On a side note, if he were a muslim, what difference would it make?
Re: Obama A Muslim? by abulbanaat(m): 11:54pm On Aug 21, 2010
Can't you see?

Obama a Muslim?

Again: ? ? ?
Re: Obama A Muslim? by dexmond: 6:45pm On Aug 22, 2010
Obama is a Muslim. He deceived the world by claiming to be a christian. We all know it is commanded in the quran to lie in order to spread Islam. What a religion!Obama was planted by Saudi Arabia. Carry out a research on the internet you will be surprised.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Jhx_2TqffE&feature=player_embedded
Re: Obama A Muslim? by abulbanaat(m): 5:08am On Aug 23, 2010
@dexmond,

Just a proof from the Qur'aan that Muslims should preach Islam with deceit?
Re: Obama A Muslim? by azharuddin: 5:58am On Aug 23, 2010
@abdulbanat
Dont fall into the bait brother, they never had any proof or never will. No use arguing with them. We shouldnt encourage this in our forum.
Re: Obama A Muslim? by nopuqeater: 12:39am On Aug 24, 2010
President Barackallah Housaine Obama, is a full Christian. He said it himself. he has not made a single Salah.

He goes to church. From his speech Jesus son of Mary is his Lord God, Creator and Savior.

A muslim is not by blood alone, or even by name. A muslim is a person who consciously abandon every gods, Gods and states that Allah is the Only God worthy of all worship, reverence and sincere devotions.

From among the muslims, we have hypocrites, we have those who interpret islam to fit an agenda that Allah and His messenger (AS) do not recommend or command.

Yet we have just a few who see the best meaning in every thing in Islam, taking the middle course (may Allah make us from this group. Amin).

We pray that Allah guides those whose hearts long for true guidance from their Creator. Amin.
Re: Obama A Muslim? by aaronfocus(m): 6:51am On Aug 24, 2010
WaLLAHU alam!
Re: Obama A Muslim? by muhsin(m): 11:23am On Aug 24, 2010
aaronfocus:

WaLLAHU alam!

You have said it all. Though I usually wish him all the bast.
Re: Obama A Muslim? by misterh(m): 11:43am On Aug 24, 2010
aaronfocus:

WaLLAHU alam!
Seconded.
Re: Obama A Muslim? by OLAADEGBU(m): 2:19pm On Aug 25, 2010
dexmond:

Obama is a Muslim. He deceived the world by claiming to be a christian. We all know it is commanded in the quran to lie in order to spread Islam. What a religion!Obama was planted by Saudi Arabia. Carry out a research on the internet you will be surprised.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Jhx_2TqffE&feature=player_embedded


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Food for thought. undecided
Re: Obama A Muslim? by azharuddin: 4:35pm On Aug 25, 2010
Is Obama a muslim or not, I dont know. Allah knows best. But my personal opinion is that, its just a hoax spread by Republicans to decrease the popularity of Obama.
Re: Obama A Muslim? by OLAADEGBU(m): 9:41pm On Aug 25, 2010
Is Obama really a Muslim? Time will tell.

Re: Obama A Muslim? by OLAADEGBU(m): 7:31pm On Aug 31, 2010
Re: Obama A Muslim? by vedaxcool(m): 5:02pm On Sep 15, 2010
I have deep pity for some people.
Re: Obama A Muslim? by excanny: 2:29pm On Oct 07, 2010
A muslim is a christian, and a christian is a muslim by the sense of the 2 words. I think that is how Obama sees it.

Remember his father was a muslim, his mother(possibly a muslim convert or one who loves islam since she was twice married to muslim men) while his grandmother was a christian.
Re: Obama A Muslim? by chakula: 10:02am On Oct 08, 2010
Based on your assumption one can build his though Obama is a Muslim and that is what we Muslims prayed for him to be since,and lets God change his heart  towards the Faith of Islam if he is worshipping other gods beside Allah.

excanny:


Remember his father was a muslim, his mother(possibly a muslim convert or one who loves islam since she was twice married to muslim men) while his grandmother was a christian.

Re: Obama A Muslim? by excanny: 8:28pm On Oct 08, 2010
chakula:

Based on your assumption one can build his though Obama is a Muslim and that is what we Muslims prayed for him to be since,and lets God change his heart  towards the Faith of Islam if he is worshipping other gods beside Allah.


Man, why do you talk like this.

You assume too much. By the way, who told you he worships other gods beside the Almighty God?

Secondly, i'll like to ask, what's the arabic word for 'god(s)'. I just assume you know arabic, or maybe someone who knows might contribute.
Re: Obama A Muslim? by dexmond: 9:30pm On Oct 08, 2010
Introduction

Religiously, Muslims are permitted to lie or use deception if it is used to further the cause of Islam. This is generally referred to as Taqiyya. It is most often used to distort Islamic teachings, and also in the attempt to deceive people into believing that they are being persecuted for their faith in the West. This is particularly important to some Muslims, hoping to paint the persecutor as the persecuted and shifting focus away from the millions who face real persecution at the hands of Islam. It is also useful in creating an atmosphere of fear among the general Muslim population, gaining the sympathy of the West, and shaming vocal critics of Islam into silence. The most troubling aspect of Muslims "crying wolf" is not the extra cost to the tax-payers for wasted police time, resources etc., but the fact that the lives of many innocent non-Muslims would be, and no doubt have been, destroyed if the Muslim claims are believed.
[edit] Lies in the Name of Islam
[edit] Distortion of Islamic beliefs

Muslims are often mistranslating or misinterpreting qur'anic verses for apologetic purposes. Many of the articles hosted at WikiIslam deal in addressing these falsehoods, and to list them all here would be an impossible task (to navigate the site, see the Site map). Some notable instances of deception include; Arsalan Iftikhar at CNN and his distortion of verse 5:32, Jamal Badawi and Tariq Ramadan who both agree that wife-beating is permitted but claim Muhammad never resorted to striking his wives, and Laleh Bakhtiar in her mistranslation of verse 4:34.
[edit] Other Lies and Deceptions
Name of Muslim↓ Location↓ Deception↓ Source ↓
Carnita Matthews Australia Flag of Australia.png A Muslim women accused a Sydney Police Officer of "racism" and claimed he physically attempted to remove her veil during a routine traffic stop. In an emotional Channel 7 interview, she tearfully described the "fear" she felt when faced with this "angry" and "aggressive" officer who shouted at her. The police officer in question was later cleared of the charge when patrol car video footage proved he never once touched her and was polite throughout the exchange. When asked by Channel 7 to return and explain what the footage showed, she declined the offer. Even after these accusations have been proven false, it is stirring up anger within the Islamic community with text messages describing the police officer as “an enemy of allah” being sent in mass.[1] Amazingly, no charges are being brought against the Muslim for her false accusations Conning the World. Veiling the Truth with Bedazzling Burkas - Wendy Larkson, Australian Islamist Monitor, June 11, 2010
Ahmad Abu Laban
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Ahmed Akkari Denmark Flag of Denmark.png Following Jyllands-Posten's publication of the infamous Muhammad Cartoons, the Danish Muslim leader Ahmad Abu Laban took it upon himself to spearhead a campaign demanding an apology from Jyllands-Posten. In December 2006, a delegation of Danish Muslim leaders, headed by Laban and Lebanese-born theological student Ahmed Akkari, travelled to the Middle East to publicise and garner opposition to the offending cartoons. However, the number of images taken to the Middle East had risen from twelve to fifteen. These additional images were a lot more offensive than any of the original twelve. According to the BBC, the source of these images (through their own admission) had been traced back to the delegation of Danish Muslim leaders themselves The Muhammad Cartoon Hoax - WikiIslam
Adnan Hajj Lebanon Flag of Lebanon.png The photographer at the centre of the 2006 Lebanon War photographs controversies, where several media outlets used doctored or misleading photographs and captions which reflected negatively on Israel. Due to the diligence of bloggers who would most likely be labelled as "Islamopobes" by many, Adnan Hajj's photoshopped images were exposed, leading to his and another photo editors dismissal The Reuters Photo Scandal: A Taxonomy of Fraud - Zombietime
Ericka Tazi the United Kingdom Flag of the United Kingdom.png Christian hoteliers, Benjamin and Sharon Vogelenzang, who were accused of laughing at and insulting a Muslim guest for wearing the hijab and angrily criticizing her religion are cleared. Among other issues, the judge said the Muslim's claim "that she was verbally attacked by the couple for up to an hour had not been borne out by other prosecution witnesses, who suggested that any discussions lasted around seven minutes". Due to these false charges, the innocent couple have suffered financial losses with their hotel, Mrs. Vogelenzang has said that "takings were down by 80 per cent" Christian hoteliers are CLEARED of insulting Muslim woman as judge slams her evidence - Jonathan Petre, The Daily Mail, December 9, 2009
Noor Ramjanally the United Kingdom Flag of the United Kingdom.png A Muslim leader who has fled the country, is sentenced to 2-years jail for making false accusations of being kidnapped from his home by anti-Muslim extremists who drove him into a forest and threatened him at knife-point to stop the Islamic prayer meetings he was holding. The police had spent 1,850 man hours investigating his case at a cost of £9,234. He had also previously claimed an arson attack on his home which lead to CCTV cameras and other security measures being installed by the Council at a cost of £1,300. These measures which were taken for his protection ultimately proved him to be a liar Noor Ramjanally sentenced to imprisonment at Chelmsford Crown Court - Edmund Tobin, The Guardian, June 11, 2010
Omar Bakri Mohammed the United Kingdom Flag of the United Kingdom.png Following the 2005 7/7 terrorist attacks on London which claimed the lives of 56 people and injured around 700 others, the Muslim cleric publicly stated "I condemn the killing of innocent people." only to be secretly recorded by an undercover reporter for the Sunday Times explaining two days later "Yes I condemn killing any innocent people, but not any kuffar." He even referred to the 7/7 bombers as the "fantastic four". One of his followers, Islamic preacher Anjem Choudary, also explained in a BBC interview "when we [Muslims] say 'innocent people' we mean 'Muslims'. As far as non-Muslims are concerned, they have not accepted Islam. As far as we are concerned, that is a crime against God." Can Infidels be Innocents? - Daniel Pipes, August 7, 2005
Yasmin
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Atoofa the United Kingdom Flag of the United Kingdom.png A bus driver who was accused by two Muslim students of banning them from boarding a bus at Russell Square due to their Islamic dress (one was wearing a hijab and the other a niqab) is cleared of the charge after CCTV footage showed he had actually barred them from the bus for their abusive behaviour. If found guilty, the bus driver could have faced the sack, not to mention the social stigma of being an "Islamophobe" Claim of 'Islamic veil bus ban' thrown out - Ross Lydall, The London Evening Standard, July 28, 2010
Ahmad Saad Nasim USA Flag of USA.png Only days after the 9/11 attacks, the Saudi Arabian-born ASU student "lied to cops about being assaulted and pelted with eggs in a parking lot while assailants screamed "Die, Muslim, die!" Nasim confessed to fabricating the attack when cops interviewed after he attempted a second hate crime hoax-- in which he locked himself in a library restroom with the word "Die" written on his forehead, a plastic bag tied over his head, and a racist note stuffed in his mouth." This Muslims lies received nationwide media coverage with people denouncing these imaginary hate crimes against a Muslim, and he even had the audacity to compare himself to the innocent civilians who died in the 9/11 Islamic terror attacks[2] The boy who cried 'muslim' - Michelle Malkin, Townhall
Amjad Abunar USA Flag of USA.png The owner of the Al Madinah meat market, who claimed the words "Go Home" were spray-painted twice on a door of his property before being gutted by an arson attack, was arrested by police for setting the fire himself. This revelation came only a week after "the graffiti and fire were cited as evidence by a Washington advocacy group [CAIR] that hate crimes against Muslims were on the rise in Texas." Hate-Crime Accuser Charged With Arson - The New York Times, September 30, 2004
Aqil Yassom Al-Timimi USA Flag of USA.png "In Nashville, Tenn., Iraqi-American Aqil Yassom Al-Timimi claimed someone set his Chevy truck on fire after the Sept. 11 attacks because he was of Arab descent. Although local TV stations ate up the hate crime angle, one keen reporter remained skeptical, Sources said they suspected Al-Timimi was the perpetrator all along, but more than a year and a half after the fire, the case has languished. Al-Timimi, the supposed victim of hateful wrongdoing, hasn't been heard from since." More Muslim hate crime myths - Michelle Malkin, Townhall, May 30, 2003
Aziz Poonawalla
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Chris Rodda (non-Muslim) USA Flag of USA.png A 10-year-old girl claimed she was sprayed with a substance while at the Islamic Society of Greater Dayton, in Ohio. Through the post written by Chris Rodda[3] and later perpetuated by Aziz Poonawalla, the news of this "Terrorist attack on an Ohio mosque" spread like wildfire on the internet. This was all in spite of the fact that police had stated the mosque was not the victim of a hate crime and that there was "nothing left at the scene or anything that makes us believe this is a biased crime." In fact, there were no chemicals found on the alleged young victim, and a can of pepper spray was oddly found inside the mosque, not outside the mosque where it was allegedly used by "two men" Dayton mosque attack hoax update: can of pepper spray was found inside the mosque - Robert Spencer, Jihad Watch, October 18, 2008
Mazhar Tabesh USA Flag of USA.png The co-owner of the Muslim-owned Alpine motel in Heber City, which was thought to have been set alight as a hate crime in response to 9/11, was arrested several months later for setting it alight himself. He had also previously claimed to have been "receiving threatening calls that increased after the Sept. 11 terror attacks." Townhall Columnist, Michelle Malkin, writes "Utah residents organized a benefit concert and raised $1,400 for Tabesh’s family. The national press jumped on the bandwagon: “Immigrant Family Feels Post-9-11 Rage,” blared a Los Angeles Times headline. The accompanying 1,100-word story suggested that “white supremacists and skinheads living in the area” might be to blame."[4] Owner of Alpine Motel Arrested - The Associated Press, KSL-TV, September 11, 2002
Mirza Akram USA Flag of USA.png The owner of the burnt Continental Spices Cash & Carry, in Everett, Washington, who had claimed “he had been harassed by some customers earlier this summer [and that] the verbal slurs didn’t stop until he threatened to call police,” was arrested a month later for setting fire to his own business and causing an estimated $50,000 in damages. The cautious Muslim had even spray-painted the property with obscenities against Arabs and a white cross before setting it alight "Islamophobic Prejudice" and CAIR - Daniel Pipes, FrontPageMagazine, August 25, 2004
Muhammad Salah USA Flag of USA.png At an Islamic Association for Palestine conference held in Chicago, he introduced himself to a woman as a "Muslim human rights activist" who can "teach you about the oppression and sufferings of Muslims in America and all over the world." He went on to tell her he was a used-car salesman working in Chicago who was arrested and tortured by Israelis on a visit to see his family and friends. Unbeknown to him, the women who he was speaking to was the Iraqi-born Rita Katz, co-founder of the Search for International Terrorist Entities Institute (SITE Institute), and she knew very well that who she was speaking to was not a "Muslim human rights activist", but the leader of the worldwide military wing of Hamas What is Taqiyya? - An Inquiry Into Islam
Musa Shteiwi
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Essa Shteiwi USA Flag of USA.png "Blast at Arab—American Restaurant 'Suspicious'" screamed the CAIR headline as they claimed the explosion at the Steak Thyme Restaurant (which sent the owner and his son to hospital with severe burns) was a hate crime. It was the fourth arson attack on the restaurant within the space of six-weeks, the third resulting from a Molotov cocktail being thrown through the front window. Only hours before the forth attack, the owner vowed he would "never give into pressure to close the store". However, investigators discovered that the explosion was actually set by the owner and his son. "The Shteiwis were standing in a pool of gasoline that they intended to use as an accelerant in setting their store ablaze later that night when Musa Shteiwi took a break and lit up a cigarette, igniting the gasoline prematurely and causing the blast". Father and son both later died from their self-inflicted injuries[5] and another man who was hired by the father and son team to carry out the previous three attacks was sentenced to three years in prison[5] Kafir-phobia: Americans as Violent Anti-Muslim Bigots - Patrick Poole, American Thinker, August 31, 2006
Nezar Maad USA Flag of USA.png The owner of the Frontier Printing Services which was damaged and vandalized with anti-Arab graffiti only days after the 9/11 attacks, was himself eventually arrested as a suspect in the damage case, the amount of which he claimed was $500,000. Although he was later released due to lack of evidence, Federal prosecutors dropped the hate crime investigation and Nezar has since been found guilty of several other cases of fraud Anchorage's Alleged Hate Crime Hoaxster Mike Maad In Trouble Again - Alaska Pride, September 16, 2006
Omar Shahin,
Didmar Faja,
Mohamed Said Mitwaly Ibrahim,
Marwan Sadeddin,
Ahmad al-Shqeirat, & Mahmoud Sulaiman USA Flag of USA.png In what looks like a planned incident to gain publicity for congressional legislation against profiling,[6]6 imams were removed from a US Airways flight about to take off from the Minneapolis airport. Led by Omar Shahin, they claimed that they were "victims of profiling and discrimination and hate merely because they were Muslims who prayed quietly in the airport terminal". In reality, they were anything but quiet. Their odd behaviour included praying loudly twice when only one prayer was needed according to Islamic laws, and not sitting in their assigned seats, instead they spread out in pairs covering each exit of the plane. It was in fact a Muslim Arabic-speaking passenger who alerted the flight attendant to their strange behaviour and of what they were saying to each other in Arabic. According to the Arabic speaker, they were "invoking bin Laden and condemning America for killing Saddam."[7] The Muslim passengers even stood up and applauded once the imams were removed from the plane Flying imams of Minneapolis - Bogus Hate Crimes, November 20, 2006
Safia Z. Jilani USA Flag of USA.png A Muslim student at Elmhurst College who claimed a masked gunman had pistol-whipped her after writing “Kill the Muslims” in a women's restroom, was arrested after a week-long investigation determined the incident never occurred. She was charged by Elmhurst police with making up the story. According to the Chicago Tribune, initially the United Church of Christ "called the incident a hate crime, hundreds of students rallied to show solidarity with their Muslim peers, who constitute about 25 of the school's 3,300 students. The college beefed up security, including foot and car patrols by Elmhurst police, and campus security offered to escort Muslim students around the campus." Only a week earlier there were anti-Islamic slurs and a swastika scrawled on her locker.[8] In hindsight, the probability of this locker vandalism being the work of an "Islamophobe" is very doubtful Cops: Student made up campus attack - Russell Working, Chicago Tribune, October 17, 2008
Saleh Nawash
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Ahmed Jaffal USA Flag of USA.png Lebanese immigrant and leader at the Islamic Mosque of Cleveland who owned a meat store named Halal Products "pleaded guilty to conspiracy, attempted aggravated arson, and attempted insurance fraud. When Halal Products failed, reports the Cleveland Plain Dealer (not online), Nawash coveted the $100,000 insurance policy on the business and hired an arsonist to do the dirty deed. The prosecutor provided details on how he left kerosene in the building and how, to win sympathy, he plotted to make the fire look like a hate crime. Nawash received a jail sentence of nine years; his side-kick Ahmed Jaffal, 49, got eight years" More Muslim "Hate Crime" Myths - Daniel Pipes, August 25, 2004
Shehab Ahmed
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Shahriar Ahmed USA Flag of USA.png "The son of a prominent Muslim is told he can't fly home to Portland and tonight, his family is looking for answers," announced the KGW (cool's anchor Russ Lewis as the top story on its 11 p.m. news, after being contacted by Shebab's father. "Shehab, we were told, was coming home from UCLA for spring break when he found out he was on the FBI terror watch list. He was eventually allowed on a flight, but, said Shehab, 'To know that the government puts me on the list as bin Laden and whatnot, that's scary.'" However, it was proven later that this was not what actually happened. "Shehab Ahmed did miss one plane home to Portland, but only because he got to the airport late. When he tried to get on another flight, there was a problem—a momentary one. Shehab's name matched a name on the terror watch list. The ticket agent asked for ID, and Shehab was allowed on the flight to Portland, What happened to Shehab that March day isn't found in any TSA or FBI report; there was no incident to report. But the incident was written up – by Shehab himself on his blog." The title of this post? "Apparently I'm on the FBI Watchlist" More Muslim "Hate Crime" Myths - Daniel Pipes, August 25, 2004
Tamsir Mendy USA Flag of USA.png Previously thought to have been a hate crime against Muslims, a self-described devout Muslim immigrant is charged with first-degree arson for setting fire to the Masjid Al-Hedaya (Islamic Center of Marietta). The ever hopeful CAIR spokesman Ibrahim Hooper had said before the arrest "Given the recent wave of incidents targeting American mosques, a possible bias motive for this apparent arson attack must be considered."[9] The damage to the building is estimated at $100,000, and according to law enforcement officials, the perpetrator (a native of Gambia) may be in the country illegally Suspect in mosque arson could be in country illegally - Janel Davis, The Atlanta Journal-Constitution, July 8, 2010


"I am embarrassed to be an American today."[10]
(Pictured above) A peace rally at the Elmhurst College campus, protesting against an imaginary anti-Muslim hate crime
[edit] Islamophobia on the Rise

Putting aside the nonsensical neologism, according to the most up-to-date FBI Hate-Crime Statistics, hate crimes directed against Muslims "remain relatively rare",[11] with gays, lesbians and Caucasians more frequently a target than the followers of Islam. Jewish victims of hate crimes also outnumber Muslim victims by a ratio of almost 9 to 1, and anti-Muslim incidents only account for a tiny 1.3% of all hate crimes. Even anti-Christian (Catholic/Protestant) incidents outnumber those perpetrated against Muslims in America. Some of the cases above also lead us to wonder just how much lower these figures would be if we were to learn the truth behind all 105 reported incidents. Regardless of these facts, many have begun to refer to Muslims as "the new Jews". Frankly such statements are offensive when you consider that the dwindling number of "old Jews" are still here and are still the most persecuted religious minority in the West. In fact anti-Semitic incidents around the world have more than doubled in 2009 over the previous year.[12] Ironically the growing anti-Semitism around the world, particlularly in the West, is coming from the growing number of "new Jews". But this is something you will not likely hear from the media, who seem obsessed with pushing the idea that Muslims are being persecuted in the West.
[edit] Conclusion

The phenomenon of lying for a cause is not exclusive to Muslims and there are many people who consider themselves to be Muslims who are honest and who just want to live their lives in peace. But don't let this blind you to the fact that the Islamic faith itself allows, encourages, and even demands[13] dishonesty from its followers who very often comply. Religiously sanctified deception is not limited to the Shia sect of Islam; how can it be when this behaviour is based on Qur'anic verses (2:225, 3:28, and 16:106), Muhammad's sunnah (the prophet himself admitted to being a liar and encouraged Muslims to lie and deceive), it is one of the holy attributes of the Islamic deity (he admits to being the best deceiver and one of his 99 names is "Deceiver"wink,[14] and orthodox Islamic scholars have also legitimised its practice? Claims made by Muslims about their religion or any other issues should not be dismissed out of hand, but sometimes scepticism is not only advised but necessary for those who are interested in the truth.

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