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Re: Nairaland 2019 Presidential Election Poll: Voting Thread by angelawoko(m): 9:31pm On Feb 09
It is very unfortunate what we have become.

Is it so difficult to make your point without being abusive? People like you are the reason we can't dialogue on anything meaningful in this country.

I was trained to respect other people's opinions and to know that we might not always be on the same page. Name calling and the likes are the reasons I comment less these days.

Peace.

Olumeme:
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See this looser.
Are people blind to who they want to vote for?

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Re: Nairaland 2019 Presidential Election Poll: Voting Thread by kayusely70(m): 9:45pm On Feb 09
Buhari
Re: Nairaland 2019 Presidential Election Poll: Voting Thread by Bakeroy: 10:03pm On Feb 09
Election is not just by online voting o, let us collect our PVC and come out to vote, majority of Buhari supporters are mai suya and mai ruya that don't have phone to access the internet. Please let us come out and vote do not allow the illiterate decide our future.

Thanks

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Re: Nairaland 2019 Presidential Election Poll: Voting Thread by McAausim: 10:46pm On Feb 09
grin


Atikulated Obediently.... kiss

Re: Nairaland 2019 Presidential Election Poll: Voting Thread by tomtos88(m): 11:11pm On Feb 09
teebaxy:
You are right but he might win in 2023 definitely not now ....I'm already too high on Atiku drug
Hope that atiku drug wount kill u before next election? Just saying... There is never better time than now
Re: Nairaland 2019 Presidential Election Poll: Voting Thread by Wahala90: 11:31pm On Feb 09

Re: Nairaland 2019 Presidential Election Poll: Voting Thread by teebaxy(m): 11:47pm On Feb 09
tomtos88:

Hope that atiku drug wount kill u before next election? Just saying... There is never better time than now
I wish u wat u wish others
Re: Nairaland 2019 Presidential Election Poll: Voting Thread by Lazyuth: 12:01am On Feb 10
Moghalu

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Re: Nairaland 2019 Presidential Election Poll: Voting Thread by saseremichael(m): 1:23am On Feb 10
All the best

Re: Nairaland 2019 Presidential Election Poll: Voting Thread by MannaFromHeaven(m): 1:24am On Feb 10
MannaBBQGRILLS vote never count o
Re: Nairaland 2019 Presidential Election Poll: Voting Thread by dokie: 1:41am On Feb 10
Lexxyla:
PDP have always been good at winning online poles, it will be suprising if this turns out to be different

Well, online polls only showed up in 2015. Pdp won but not with these margins.

However, if Atiku loses, we need to look at why pdp wins online and loses on election day proper.

It could be a couple of things but let's wait till Saturday.
Re: Nairaland 2019 Presidential Election Poll: Voting Thread by tomtos88(m): 1:59am On Feb 10
teebaxy:
I wish u wat u wish others

Amen
Re: Nairaland 2019 Presidential Election Poll: Voting Thread by dayo2710: 7:23am On Feb 10
Buhari

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Re: Nairaland 2019 Presidential Election Poll: Voting Thread by Olumeme: 8:12am On Feb 10
angelawoko:
It is very unfortunate what we have become.

Is it so difficult to make your point without being abusive? People like you are the reason we can't dialogue on anything meaningful in this country.

I was trained to respect other people's opinions and to know that we might not always be on the same page. Name calling and the likes are the reasons I comment less these days.

Peace.


I think you'll make more sense if you keep quiet and not expose your ignorance publicly!
Shallom!
Re: Nairaland 2019 Presidential Election Poll: Voting Thread by wolexyad(m): 8:18am On Feb 10
Kingsley moghalu
Re: Nairaland 2019 Presidential Election Poll: Voting Thread by kponkedenge(m): 8:26am On Feb 10
Lexxyla:
PDP have always been good at winning online poles, it will be suprising if this turns out to be different

Online polls are free and fair, that's why they keep winning them. The same can't be said about INEC bias elections.
Re: Nairaland 2019 Presidential Election Poll: Voting Thread by zickie: 9:51am On Feb 10
I am obediently Atikulated . Atiku all the way. So is all my family
Re: Nairaland 2019 Presidential Election Poll: Voting Thread by SillyMods: 10:31am On Feb 10
IamPlato:
ATIKU PDP
Wow! And that's how Atiku wins with some thousands likes

grin grin grin


This will be fun to quote from the evening of February 16th. grin grin grin
Re: Nairaland 2019 Presidential Election Poll: Voting Thread by worworbabe: 1:43pm On Feb 10
Chris Okotie won't stop contesting
Re: Nairaland 2019 Presidential Election Poll: Voting Thread by giftunuafe12: 2:04pm On Feb 10
"The Greatest Nigerian's Students/Youths"
Every Nigeria youths should vote for any candidate of his or her choice.
We all know what Atiku the Presidential candidate of People's Democratic Party (PDP) did when he was the V.P to our former President Obasanjo. And we all also know what President Muhammadu Buhari presidential candidate of All Progressives Congress (APC) has done for this country Nigeria.
Don't sell your vote and everyone knows what's right and let's everyone do what's right.
Let's vote for the faithful and righteous person. I hope we all know him very well and he's still doing a lot of things now in Nigeria
Am Unuafe G.O, from Delta State, Nigeria.

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Re: Nairaland 2019 Presidential Election Poll: Voting Thread by giftunuafe12: 2:29pm On Feb 10
Vote Olorogun Solomon EDOJAH for HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES ethiope federal constituency
Vote All Progressives Congress (APC) ...
Change

Re: Nairaland 2019 Presidential Election Poll: Voting Thread by DamZik(m): 2:33pm On Feb 10
IamPlato:
ATIKU PDP
Wow, almost 4000 likes. Now I'm sure Buhari and Boko-Haram are gone.
Re: Nairaland 2019 Presidential Election Poll: Voting Thread by jpphilips(m): 7:46pm On Feb 10

IS BUHARI TRULY RESPONSIBLE FOR OUR ECONOMIC WOES?

A lot have been said about Buhari, how he brought hardship on Nigerians, how he is responsible for all the suffering in Nigeria, is that theory backed with facts and global economic realities or the shenanigans of few individuals basking in the Euphoria of ignorance?
Since I must make a choice between our present loud political gladiators, I armed myself with Economics textbooks and news archive, here is what i discovered.

Nigeria an oil producing and oil dependent economy suffered a global economic hit called crude oil price shock
it is the sudden drop in price of crude oil in the commodity trading market, it has occurred at different times in History nearly every decade. Countries that are hardest hit by crude shock are basically countries that not only produce crude oil in significant amount but solely depend on it as their foreign exchange earner. While oil shocks have asymmetric effects in oil-exporting developing countries; lower oil prices lead to major revenue cuts and ensuing stagnation in the economy, but higher oil prices and accompanying higher revenues do not translate into sustained economic growth.

What are the effects of crude shock in oil producing developing economies?

Forex scarcity: Most developing economies whether oil producing or not, depend on importation to survive, where foreign currency becomes scarce, industries, individuals that have significant need for forex will likely close shops giving birth to the second problem unemployment then finally the master Recession.

Unemployment: When industries no longer have forex to buy spare parts, can no longer afford raw materials, production slows, sales slows, profit eroded, workers sacked, since the volume of activities in the economy is directly proportional to the GDP, the GDP contracts and birth another economic monster Recession.

Recession is a chain reaction of unpalatable economic events that shows the economy is not experiencing growth but contracting, lets look at the effects of recession, high energy cost (energy in most developing economies are subsidized one way or another) crude shock and eventually recession erodes government revenues till a point where it could no longer afford subsidies and other things it used to afford.
In Nigeria where our Electricity Generation companies are subsidized, petroleum products are subsidized,you will understand that such partial or complete subsidy removal will quickly skyrocket the cost of living generally, transportation, cost of food etc are equally affected that leads to another monster called Inflation.

Inflation: is defined as a phenomenon where huge bills are in search of few goods, how is that possible? when the industries that produce goods closed down, imports could not be sustained due to Forex shortages where will the goods come from? the absence of those goods while the bills remain triggers inflation, causes hunger and eventually poverty and devaluation of local currency.

Devaluation is when global reserve currencies trade higher than your currency, of course you recall that an economy in crude shock first suffers Forex shortages, that robs the central bank (in the case of Nigeria) the ability to fix the currency at a reasonable exchange rate.
The local currency is allowed to float along a band the cbn thinks may not be too hurtful on the economy.
Forex ban is placed on certain commodities, debit cards like Visa, Mastercard et al are all placed on monthly transaction limits as a reflection of the reality of forex shortages.

Okonjo iweala then finance minister and coordinator of the economy actually warned Nigerians in 2014 long before buhari came that the level of mismanagement will bring hunger to us, read here: https://www.premiumtimesng.com/business/171145-brace-tougher-times-ahead-okonjo-iweala-tells-nigerians.html
If okonjo iweala saw this hunger in 2014, warned us about it, how can a sane person accuse buhari of bringing hardship?

Between 2015-2017, all these happened in the Nigerian economy, then I asked "are we the only oil dependent economies in the world? why us alone?
The answer took me to several countries in the world and I realized that other oil producing countries dont depend on oil alone, countries like Russia though the largest producer of crude oil in the world, has a robust defense industry that contribute significantly to its GDP, Russia equally enjoys large market shares in Gas distribution in Eurasia, by the time crude oil shock hit, Russia had over $400b in reserves,
It became clear that the only economic move that could hold off crude oil shock and other global economic shocks is a robust foreign exchange reserves (Savings).

Permit me to take you down our economic history, in 2008 during the global melt down, the then CBN governor prof. Chukwuma Charles soludo bragged that the Nigerian economy is immune to global shocks? That would have sounded ridiculous but it is true, what did he do? they launched an economic strategy called National Economic Empowerment And Development Strategy NEEDS.
This strategy recommended that once crude oil is sold, the balance above the budget benchmark is kept in an account called the ECA, by the time that government left and another took over in 2007, both the ECA & Foreign reserve account held over $68b in reserves, in a $200b economy at the time, that reserve was significant enough to whither any storm that came the way of our economy, Much later into the crisis, Nigeria later relaxed its exchange rate to 155 to a dollar. now we know that Nigeria had in the past stood resilience in the face of global shocks with a culture of Savings.

Global economic meltdown is worse than crude shock because in a meltdown, major economies are affected, capital flight becomes common in developing economies, crude oil customers reduce demand thereby pushing prices lower, the saddest part is that no country has money to borrow anyone during global meltdown, yet Nigeria Survived it with Soludo's brilliant strategy. A strategy that was blatantly refused by the previous administration when suggested by Iweala, recall that Iweala worked with Soludo in that NEEDS team.


Fast forward to 2015, Three out of the top four producers of crude oil in Africa by their production, Nigeria, Angola, Algeria and Egypt were all in recession even though Egypt does not significantly depend on oil but her economy was shattered. Algeria escaped recession because by 2014, just like Nigeria in 2008, Algeria had a foreign reserve balance of $194b in a $156.1b economy (122% of GDP in savings).You can see that the Robust reserve of Algeria was their savior in this modern crude oil shock era. The previous administration in Nigeria boasted of leaving behind a paltry $19b for a $500b economy at the time (3.8% of GDP), that amount is not even enough to pay for imports let alone absorb global shocks, so Nigeria can be rightly described in late 2014 as an oil dependent economy with no savings. How important is this savings?

Lets take our research to the Second largest producer of crude oil Angola, just like Nigeria with no significant savings, Angola's challenges needs no introduction, let facts speak for itself

Angola suffered severe Forex & currency challenges just like Nigeria. According to Bloomberg
They not only devalued their currency, they equally allowed it to float like Nigeria's
Angola devalued its currency as the OPEC member sought to revive an economy still reeling from the oil-price crash four years ago.

The kwanza fell 11 percent to 187.95 per dollar by 3:35 p.m. in Luanda and depreciated 10 percent to 221.75 against the euro. The move came a day after the central bank allowed the currency to weaken in its first auction of foreign exchange since announcing it would end a dollar peg that’s been in place since April 2016.....Bloomberg
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-01-09/angola-kwanza-weakens-in-first-currency-auction-after-peg-lifted

Borrowing to fund Budget deficits, just like Nigeria, Angola has borrowed to the point of requesting a bail out from the IMF
https://www.vanguardngr.com/2018/08/angola-says-to-request-4-5-bn-imf-loan-as-crisis-lingers/

Unemployment Rate in Angola increased to 20 percent in 2017 from 19.90 percent in 2016.
https://tradingeconomics.com/angola/unemployment-rate


Inflation in Angola was a whooping 23.67 percent in December 2017, data on the national statistics agency's website showed on Wednesday.
Price growth on a month-on-month basis rose to 1.47 percent in January from 1.2 percent previously.

Poverty in Angola
According to Angola's 2001 MPI, more than 77% of the population was multidimensionally poor. ... The latest available World Bank figure for income poverty in Angola, from 2008, shows that 36.6% of the population is income poor. Angola's population is currently estimated at 29.7 million.

I can go on and on the list is endless, as a matter of undeniable fact, Angola just like Nigeria are the largest producers in Africa, they practically did not save enough and they were hit hard by crude price shock. to balance the analysis, it will be unfair to discuss those that didn't save without giving kudos to those that saved, like i said previously, Algeria saved a whooping $194b when the going was good, as such its economy was immune to crude shock.

Russia like we said though had currency challenges during the period under review ostensibly because of western sanctions, Russia had over $400b in reserves by ending of 2014.

Saudi Arabia was immune to crude shock not without little currency & subsidy issues ostensibly because of its huge financing of the war in Yemen, they were sitting on a comfortable $732b by the end of 2014.

My country men, you can see that this suffering was brought upon us by mismanagement by the same people that are warming up to continue from where fate has left us, if buhari had $100b in our foreign reserve in 2015, we wont be hungry today, we wont lose our jobs, we wont lose our manufacturing industries, this is the truth that shall set us free!

Some even blamed it on Avengers attack of 2016

Niger delta avengers was a non issue, if you noticed, I expunged them from my initial analysis, here is why;
We were in crude shock from late 2014, Avengers struck in 2016, since 2014, your GDP wasn't showing any growth but retrogression or doldrums meaning you were heading towards recession anyways as a result of crude shock.

If Avengers did not strike, OPEC would have asked us to cut production to boost prices,
read:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-09-28/opec-said-to-agree-on-first-oil-output-cut-in-eight-years

So Avengers or any form of production cut at the time was a non issue. OPEC gave us production cut waiver because Nigeria has already declared force-majore in most of its crude oil export channels.

Nigerian people, what is your present government doing to stem this tide that has shocked the fabrics of our nation to the Marrow?


The vice president being the economic manager of the country Launched the ERGP, with it Nigeria even in recession was able to save $47b in our foreign reserve, at this pace, I have no doubt that this money will hit $100b in the next 4yrs, that is a guarantee that our economy will become immune to global shocks once again, not just crude shocks alone. (Algerian model)

The moment that money crossed $40b mark, forex shortages disappeared, importers stopped complaining, manufacturers stopped complaining of dollar scarcity, debit cards relaxed their limits etc, that was a killer stroke in our economic recovery strategy, inflation immediately responded to the potency of the ERGP from 18.8% in 2017 to 11.23% in 2018.
This reserve will boost investors confidence that the economy is liquid enough for profit repatriation, that is how the jobs will return, job creation is private sector driven, not govt.

Among the three oil dependent economies in Africa that landed in recession within the same period, Nigeria was the first to exit recession, that was historical & mind blowing, despite fighting terrorism and with a massive population, we did it first before any other country.

By Blocking loopholes Our Federal allocation that used to be a misery 311b naira in june 2016 is between 600-700b naira in presently.
This volume if held steady will continue providing liquidity that will surely inflate the economy.

Nigeria is building a Gas liquefying plant called the NLNG train 7 project, that will in a way increase revenue from Gas against depending on oil alone, there are other ongoing Gas projects like the AKK projects and other Gas for power projects, rightly put, the economy is being diversified towards gas. (Russian model)
https://www.vanguardngr.com/2018/07/nnpc-signs-agreement-for-seven-critical-gas-projects/

As you can see here, Manufacturing is gradually expanding, next will be jobs returning on its own


https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2018/07/08/cbn-at-57-0-pmi-manufacturing-sector-expanded-in-june/amp/


We don't need Atiku's stealing to truncate an economic process already in recovery.


In conclusion, I can state for a fact that the economic challenges of this country has nothing to do with Buhari under the circumstances he met on ground, we have a chance to fix culpability of blames where it rightly belongs on crude shock, or replace this government whose framework seems promising with another leadership of questionable integrity.

Buhari is like a mechanic that was given a car to fix, only for the car owner to accuse him of being the problem of the car when he is yet to fix anything.


We shall never go back to past governments whose inaction landed us in this mess in the first place.
leadership in the past that we tasked to privatize our establishments, all failed save for the one that ended up in his pocket, yet he claimed to create Jobs? How many jobs were lost in that privatization scam where 56 government entities perished?

Where is our NITEL, ALSCON, Nicon Insurance to mention a few? Leadership that claims to create jobs but his company PRODECO folded up? Leadership that claim to create jobs yet it was Buhari that sacked foreigners littered everywhere in his company, does an ordinary logistics company need that much foreigners?

Leadership that is a case study for corruption and money laundering by the US Senate committee on Homeland security, Leadership that preaches restructuring but enjoys monopoly in Niger delta sea ports? Atiku is a walking scam, may we not walk into the scam called Atiku because of lies peddled and perfected by the same holocausts that landed us in bondage, every scam comes with a loud noise, say No to Atiku, we cant move from Abacha loot to Atiku loot at this perilous time.

Fraudulent Leadership that wants to sell 90% of NNPC robbing us of 74% of our forex needs, Leadership that wants to spend $90b annually building infrastructures when Nigeria earns less than $30b annually.

It will be very dangerous and retrogressive to have a leader that is in bad terms with the international community, remember that the united states is the Fulcrum of our war against insurgency, one will argue that if America doesn't sell arms to us we go to Russia, the world works differently now under Donald trump, ask yourself, why did Jonathan not go to those people when America sanctioned him under the Leahy's ban? Yet he sat idly and watched Boko haram slaughter tens of thousands eventually took LGA's? American ban is as good as a global ban, recall how South Africa seized funds Jonathan wanted to use for arms purchase, please dont ask me what is South Africa's business with a US ban, that is how the world works.

In 2017, the US congress passed a law called Countering America's Adversaries Through Sanctions Act, CAATSA to promote the America first agenda while sanctioning countries that do business with American's enemies. If Atiku (God forbid) becomes the president as much as thinks about going to Russia for help, Nigeria will end up in CAATSA web, and that is when the true Hunger will manifest.

Can you live under a US sanction like North Korea and Iran? can you live with a Boko haram that is out of control? A boko haram that once
bombed Abuja for fun but Today the once Almighty Shekau is in hiding? what about other support we get from the US like the USAID? free immunization? Polio prevention? HIV and AIDS vaccines? Machinery and oil and gas technologies etc? are you willing to throw away all these because of a criminal whose greed led him to commit atrocities in the United states or hate for Buhari that is built on lies?
When faced with these realities, Atiku will never achieve anything, rather he will steal what we have left and disappear like he did in the US.

May God help us!!

Watch Peter obi summarize this analysis

https://twitter.com/i/status/1058007016810123264

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Re: Nairaland 2019 Presidential Election Poll: Voting Thread by obaloppelujo(m): 8:00pm On Feb 10
You guys and your online pole that ends up hurting pdp ? Since you start your online campaign , pdp has lost ondo, edo, ekiti, osun and many bye elections. So, your vote that couldn’t rescue gej with all his might, reckless and blind spending will now entrone Atiku ?
Buharist are not ready for online banter, they just vote and smile cos they are sure of victory .
Infact ! Gej lost will be chilspaly to what will befall Atiku , mind you , apc are not only voting in Buhari , they are kicking out saraki , melaye and other big mess just as onnogen was kicked out.
I implore you to bet your belongings and stop this online consolation , as you and I know you’ll soon start your cry of marginalization by this time soon .
But I like Buhari as a perfect gentle man, he will assist Atiku by political appointment as his chief security officer and obi has his Cheff .well meet by this time on Sunday when you’ve lost your voice to come and taunt your losers head .
Re: Nairaland 2019 Presidential Election Poll: Voting Thread by BigBashiru: 9:35pm On Feb 10
I prefer Sowore to win, and he will!

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Re: Nairaland 2019 Presidential Election Poll: Voting Thread by BigBashiru: 9:42pm On Feb 10
teebaxy:
Atiku, my PVC is ready....I'd go out and vote ...whether my vote count or not ...I must vote for Atiku ....mind you ,I'm a full blooded yoruba
Modified; Buhari has been rejected , even sowore will get more votes than him grin , I'd suggest Buhari endorse Sowore to save himself from an imminent embarrassment
Why the "even" and why "endorse"; comparing a Colombia university graduate to a person that can't find his waec certificate.....
Re: Nairaland 2019 Presidential Election Poll: Voting Thread by BigBashiru: 9:54pm On Feb 10
pchukwudi:
You see, that's he point, you're just a naive uninformed kid.

For your info, Nigeria will never be a socialist state ran by a wannabe demagogue like Sowore.

Now a quick homework: Go and read Sowore's poisonous idea of an education policy, and tell me where he EXPLAINED HOW he would fund that crap. Go ahead. Surprise me.




But you want to go to us and Canada and UK that are socialist states?? And you even go as far as calling it crap...

You are also insinuating that looted funds should not be used to provide basic social security; if u hv an accident and the doctor refuses to give you emergency healthcare until you pay 5milion cash and you die - you prefer that to being treated and the doctor repaid by the govt? And the governors should keep the funds they are looting?

I feel sorry for blacks.
Re: Nairaland 2019 Presidential Election Poll: Voting Thread by BigBashiru: 10:16pm On Feb 10
IamPlato:
ATIKU PDP

The problem wiv Atiku is a leopard can't change it's spots/skin. That looting he has exhibited it hasn't changed it's still there. Sowore is the man for the job.
Re: Nairaland 2019 Presidential Election Poll: Voting Thread by onavae(m): 11:22pm On Feb 10
giftunuafe12:
Vote Olorogun Solomon EDOJAH for HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES ethiope federal constituency
Vote All Progressives Congress (APC) ...
Change

This man should go and do name change first. Do you know the meaning of Edojah? The day of suffering! Who would go out and vote for the day of suffering on himself and his people? He should change his name to Edomiemien or Edaghogho. After that maybe he will be able to realize he's I. The wrong party in the wrong state. Remember, if you are not loyal, you will lojah!

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Re: Nairaland 2019 Presidential Election Poll: Voting Thread by oyolohi: 11:56pm On Feb 10
I don't need to be a prophet to predict what will happen next four years by this time.

I see what influences the common Nigerian to vote and I SMH.

Must it be APC vs PDP?

We must not forget we have a choice. That will be the fastest way to doom.

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