EMMAUGOH:
where u guys saying this last 20yrs Ago or 50yrs ago. Even the whole Kirikiri was owned by Ibru family. Lekki and VI was CO owned by industrialist which are no yoroubas, all of a sudden since Tinubu leadership began this call for yoroubas to claim Lagos began. Same gave way for consciousness of migrant in Lagos to also have their say. Before nobody was complaining . Have u seen any southerners contest election in Ogun state . Lagos still remains the only state that has equal number of tribe in Nigeria settled inside. Any call to deny any Nigerian their right in Lagos will meet stiff resistance till Nigeria divides.

Hausa is coming, their population doubled in the last 4yrs and will triple in another 4. They are not coming with economic expansion but military and religion expansion..wait for it ..nxt 10yrs u and I will see what we have done to our selves

When you are outside your region,land can only be leased and not sold to you in the real sense. So every land you think you've bought still belongs to the indigenes/govt, this is why you still pay land use charge annually.
About the tension between yorubas and outsiders,it didn't start with Tinubu,it predates him, it used to be the Edo people at the centre of the tension before it shifted to SE folks. I can bet it that no ethnic group in Nigeria can relegate yorubas in lagos politics in the next 100yrs,even if you all join force to challenge us,we'll still come out on top. We know the result of allowing you to medle in our politics,this is why we are trying to stop it for the betterment of everybody.

Biety:

Let me state this, Ajeromi is not 75% Ibos as you eroneously put up there,it's one of the local govt Ibos populated by at least 95%.
Ibos people are every where in the North as much as you are in SW , yet you dare not drag political posts with the hausas in their land because you know the consequences of doing such.
Why do you think Ibos always run away from the North during election period and return to continue doing busines after the hausas might have apointed the candidate of their choice?
What you people can't do in North ,you do it here and get away with it. With your number in the North, you can't influence their politics but in SW you think you deserve equal previlege with yorubas. There are areas in lagos that the hausas are more than the yorubas yet they know there boundary,they never drag anything with us. It's time to let you people know you are crossing the red line.

I find points like this hilarious in the sense that you "sophisticated" claimers don't understand your own contradictions. On the one hand, you want to be acknowledged for your "accommodation" and sophistication and progressiveness (hardly a thread concerning Yoruba issues passes by without a mention of those hackneyed themes). Yet, you also contrast your politics with the North of Nigeria, one of the most socio-politically regressive regions in the world and expect a pat on the back because you are not like murderous, volatile Hausa-Fulani mobs among whom non-indigenes live in constant fear of massacres. I don't get it.....you want a pat on the back just for being normal human beings?

agabusta:


Familiarise yourself with the reasons INEC declares an election inconclusive before making a fool of yourself in public.

Once the margin of victory between contestants is lower than the total number of registered voters in areas where cancellations were carried out, the election will be declared inconclusive and a rerun carried out in those places where there were cancellations.

If the margin of victory is higher than the total number of registered voters for areas where votes were cancelled, INEC has a legal obligation to make a return and declare a winner.

If INEC makes a return and declare a winner before this condition is met, the courts will upturn such an election. And INEC has to conduct another election with the attendant financial, time and human resources cost. Is that what you want??

The margin of victory in the presidential election was higher than the registered voters in all the places where cancellations were carried out, hence, no need for a return.

I'm guessing you've obtained the card reader analyses of accredited voters, compared it with the actual figures INEC announced then reconciled the fact that the TOTAL number of votes cast for presidential, Senate and HOR elections as announced by INEC are equal to each other as well as to the total number of accredited voters.

Then you've also compiled ALL the areas that had issues leading to cancellation of polls as well as the petition from areas where voters reported no activity but by some acts of magic, INEC announced results.

After you've done this, I can take you seriously cos your failed attempt at sarcasm only pulls the rug from under your feet with your backside crashing on cold tiles.

Olodo that is forming smart alec..

Biety:

When you are outside your region,land can only be leased and not sold to you in the real sense. So every land you think you've bought still belongs to the indigenes/govt, this is why you still pay land use charge annually.
About the tension between yorubas and outsiders,it didn't start with Tinubu,it predates him, it used to be the Edo people at the centre of the tension before it shifted to SE folks. I can bet it that no ethnic group in Nigeria can relegate yorubas in lagos politics in the next 100yrs,even if you all join force to challenge us,we'll still come out on top. We know the result of allowing you to medle in our politics,this is why we are trying to stop it for the betterment of everybody.

Whether you are outside your region or inside your region, all land is leased by Nigeria's land tenure system. It belongs to the government, not to any "indigenes" (whatever that means). So the emboldened is a rather pointless comment. Yoruba people pay land use charge, just like Igbo people pay land use charge. Your claimed indigenship earns you no special policy privileges.

And nobody is "meddling" in your politics. People exercise their constitutional rights to vote and be voted for wherever they are. You're free to use your superior numbers to defeat the aspirations of non-indigenes, but no one owes you any obligation to disenfranchise themselves. As I said earlier, many of you love to arrogate phony political sophistication to yourselves, but end up expressing the most regressive, primitive mindsets that make absolutely no sense.

Obi1kenobi:


Whether you are outside your region or inside your region, all land is leased by Nigeria's land tenure system. It belongs to the government, not to any "indigenes" (whatever that means). So the emboldened is a rather pointless comment. Yoruba people pay land use charge, just like Igbo people pay land use charge. Your claimed indigenship earns you no special policy privileges.

And nobody is "meddling" in your politics. People exercise their constitutional rights to vote and be voted for wherever they are. You're free to use your superior numbers to defeat the aspirations of non-indigenes, but no one owes you any obligation to disenfranchise themselves. As I said earlier, many of you love to arrogate phony political sophistication to yourselves, but end up expressing the most regressive, primitive mindsets that make absolutely no sense.

You claim land belongs to the govt and not indegenes,and I ask who is the govt?
It's thesame thing to say the land belongs to Indegenes or govt. Afterall,who are the people behind or expected to be behind the govt if not the indegenes. So if land belongs to govt as you alude to,it's safe to say it belongs to the indegenes. Abi Aliens or Angels are the govt?
About the payment of land use charge,it shouldn't come as a surprise to you that Ibos and Yorubas are not paying equal amount in lagos,this is one the ways to afirm ownership.



I'll be back...

Biety:

You claim land belongs to the govt and not indegenes,and I ask who is the govt?
It's thesame thing to say the land belongs to Indegenes or govt. Afterall,who are the people behind or expected to be behind the govt if not the indegenes. So if land belongs to govt as you alude to,it's safe to say it belongs to the indegenes. Abi Aliens or Angels are the govt?
About the payment of land use charge,it shouldn't come as a surprise to you that Ibos and Yorubas are not paying equal amount in lagos,this is one the ways to afirm ownership.

I'll be back...

What do you mean by "who is the government"? The government are elected entities, and has nothing to do with indigenship. You're making it sound like being an indigene accords you some extra rights. It doesn't. Yorubas have the highest population in Lagos which means leaders are more likely to be Lagosians. It's a simple game of numbers. Non-indigenes also tend to be apathetic to politics which gives you the illusion that you have some birthright accorded by indigenship. The reality is in several enclaves in Lagos dominated by non-indigenes, if we really wanted to mobilize votes for non-Yoruba politicians, there wouldn't be a thing you can do about it other than engaging in savage violence. And to be honest, you're not nearly as scary as our Northern brethren.

And provide your evidence that Igbos pay more land use charge than Yorubas.

Obi1kenobi:


What do you mean by "who is the government"? The government are elected entities, and has nothing to do with indigenship. You're making it sound like being an indigene accords you some extra rights. It doesn't. Yorubas have the highest population in Lagos which means leaders are more likely to be Lagosians. It's a simple game of numbers. Non-indigenes also tend to be apathetic to politics which gives you the illusion that you have some birthright accorded by indigenship. The reality is in several enclaves in Lagos dominated by non-indigenes, if we really wanted to mobilize votes for non-Yoruba politicians, there wouldn't be a thing you can do about it other than engaging in savage violence. And to be honest, you're not nearly as scary as our Northern brethren.

And provide your evidence that Igbos pay more land use charge than Yorubas.

People whose ancestors discovered and first settled down at a place are always incharge of the affairs of the place,by royalty or democratic. There can only be Exemption if they lose the control of their teritory to enemies through war or carelesness. From the days of our ancestors Indigenes were always suspicious of outsiders and always put them under scrutiny inorder to avoid losing power to them or to stop them from becoming more stronger. Pharaoh did it to the ancient israelites. Hitler did it. And it's still common in this generation. The blackman doesn't benefit thesame previlege as the white man in his country. Before you can work in UK as a Nigerian you'll need to get work permit from its govt. Mutiu Adepoju mised the chance of playing for Madrid first team because of the policy of the spanish govt.
This is how it's all over the world,you don't expect the Yorubas to allow what isn't tolerated anywhere in the world in the name of being civil. The message is simple,work but don't medle with our politics.
We have answers to whatever game you may come up with now or in the future, there are truely areas in lagos we have more Ibos than Yorubas but we can neutralise your numbers in such places by constructing verry high buildings and migrating Yorubas there.

Truth be told, the excesses has to be curtailed using ANY MEANS WHATSOEVER.

Serves APC right. Kamal Bayewu won the primary but they did ojoro and gave it to HKT

Biety:

People whose ancestors discovered and first settled down at a place are always incharge of the affairs of the place,by royalty or democratic. There can only be Exemption if they lose the control of their teritory to enemies through war or carelesness. From the days of our ancestors Indigenes were always suspicious of outsiders and always put them under scrutiny inorder to avoid losing power to them or to stop them from becoming more stronger. Pharaoh did it to the ancient israelites. Hitler did it. And it's still common in this generation. The blackman doesn't benefit thesame previlege as the white man in his country. Before you can work in UK as a Nigerian you'll need to get work permit from its govt. Mutiu Adepoju mised the chance of playing for Madrid first team because of the policy of the spanish govt.
This is how it's all over the world,you don't expect the Yorubas to allow what isn't tolerated anywhere in the world in the name of being civil. The message is simple,work but don't medle with our politics.
We have answers to whatever game you may come up with now or in the future, there are truely areas in lagos we have more Ibos than Yorubas but we can neutralise your numbers in such places by constructing verry high buildings and migrating Yorubas there.

What is all this irrelevant rambling about? I asked you to substantiate your claims about land use charge and the policy privileges you have as indigenes of Lagos and you're just spewing irrelevant drivel.

The emboldened point is incredibly asinine. You need a work permit in a place where you are not a citizen. There are many Yoruba or Igbo citizens in the UK, and all of them have all the rights accorded to white, Anglo-saxon, British people and can aspire to any political post. A number of them even serve in the British Parliament. Some of the most prominent British politicians like Sadiq Khan or Sajid Javid were born to Pakistani Muslim immigrants. Igbos in Yoruba land share the same citizenship and the same constitutional rights with Yorubas. So comparing them to immigrants needing work permits is hilariously ignorant.

Again, I asked you to define what you mean by "meddling" in your politics and you can't make any coherent point. What does "meddling" in your politics mean? Voting and contesting for office? Come and stop us from voting or contesting office, na....
What is stopping you from constructing "very high buildings" and repopulating Festac or Amuwo or wherever with Yorubas?