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Re: China And Ethiopia Ground Boeing 737MAX Fleets After Second Crash In Five Months by Nobody: 11:05am On Mar 11, 2019
VIPERVENOM:
An aviation enthusiast wrote to Ethiopian airlines about the plane and his concerns. But instead of safety, they preferred money. Now look at what has happened. It was avoidable

Can we get a link to that please?

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Re: China And Ethiopia Ground Boeing 737MAX Fleets After Second Crash In Five Months by shogsman(m): 11:25am On Mar 11, 2019
kuuljay:
ten brand new planes? I find it difficult to believe this

Google is your friend
Re: China And Ethiopia Ground Boeing 737MAX Fleets After Second Crash In Five Months by EazyMoh(m): 11:43am On Mar 11, 2019
Sometimes old things are good. At least our ancient domestic planes have no inherent defects.
Re: China And Ethiopia Ground Boeing 737MAX Fleets After Second Crash In Five Months by victorazyvictor(m): 11:53am On Mar 11, 2019
martineverest:
eat Ur words peace ordered 10 last September while another airline green African ordered 100 ...I repeat,100 airplanes

Order not bought!
They two different things.
Re: China And Ethiopia Ground Boeing 737MAX Fleets After Second Crash In Five Months by martineverest(m): 12:08pm On Mar 11, 2019
victorazyvictor:


Order not bought!
They two different things.
u mean when u ordered for something,u are joking with it?.....when u ordered planes,the contract takes years to complete...the ordering isn't immediate.out of 10,2 might be delivered immediately,while the rest could be spread with years of agreement
Re: China And Ethiopia Ground Boeing 737MAX Fleets After Second Crash In Five Months by Fidelismaria: 12:34pm On Mar 11, 2019
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Re: China And Ethiopia Ground Boeing 737MAX Fleets After Second Crash In Five Months by victorazyvictor(m): 1:30pm On Mar 11, 2019
martineverest:
u mean when u ordered for something,u are joking with it?.....when u ordered planes,the contract takes years to complete...the ordering isn't immediate.out of 10,2 might be delivered immediately,while the rest could be spread with years of agreement

Better for them, they can easily abort the transaction because something is definitely wrong with Boeing 737.
Re: China And Ethiopia Ground Boeing 737MAX Fleets After Second Crash In Five Months by PDPGuy: 1:49pm On Mar 11, 2019
bhookie:
So sad, but will the families be compensated?
Yes. Going by ICAO regulations - which are domesticated in virtually all countries - the families of the dead are entitled to a $100,000 compensation.
Re: China And Ethiopia Ground Boeing 737MAX Fleets After Second Crash In Five Months by princegeo(m): 1:56pm On Mar 11, 2019
God help us
Re: China And Ethiopia Ground Boeing 737MAX Fleets After Second Crash In Five Months by PurestBoy(m): 2:34pm On Mar 11, 2019
PDPGuy:

Yes. Going by ICAO regulations - which are domesticated in virtually all countries - the families of the dead are entitled to a $100,000 compensation.

Which airline is usingthat plane in Nigeria and do they compensate Nigerian victims too? I'll love to book someone to Abuja
Re: China And Ethiopia Ground Boeing 737MAX Fleets After Second Crash In Five Months by Jaqenhghar: 2:37pm On Mar 11, 2019
germanized:


Well, not in all cases bro. Even common local interstate buses have a security procedure, talk less of the aviation industry. I know corruption is a major challenge in Nigeria, but it hasn't gotten to that level.

Those in the aviation sector also watch the news and they fly too, nobody wants to die.
Nobody wants the big men to die you mean. Cos its only whe it affects them that something is done sharply. Bro we all choose to see what we want to see. If you say the standards are okay who am I to complain
Re: China And Ethiopia Ground Boeing 737MAX Fleets After Second Crash In Five Months by Nobody: 2:54pm On Mar 11, 2019
Jaqenhghar:

Nobody wants the big men to die you mean. Cos its only whe it affects them that something is done sharply. Bro we all choose to see what we want to see. If you say the standards are okay who am I to complain

The standards are not ok, but you get my point wink
Re: China And Ethiopia Ground Boeing 737MAX Fleets After Second Crash In Five Months by Faithful007: 3:25pm On Mar 11, 2019
bluecircle470:


Hey stop disturbing yourself as no Nigerian airline can buy a brand new plane. The particular model in question is a brand new model.
Arik bought brand new planes.
Re: China And Ethiopia Ground Boeing 737MAX Fleets After Second Crash In Five Months by Jakumo(m): 4:14pm On Mar 11, 2019
According to some aviation experts, Boeing committed a fundamental design error with the Boeing 737 Max-8 iteration of its tried and tested 737 family of commercial passenger jets.

The engines of the 737 Max-8 are larger, more powerful engines than the earlier 737 jets, while the undercarriage height was increased to accommodate the larger diameter engines, so as to increase the ground clearance. The upshot of those changes was that the center of gravity (CG) of the Boeing 737 Max-8 moved to the aft (rear) of the aircraft, in comparison to the earlier 737 jets that were fitted with smaller engines.

That rearward shift of the aircraft center of gravity was then discovered by Boeing engineers to increase the tendency of the jet to tilt nose-up during flight, which, if left unchecked, could cause the plane to stall, lose lift, and drop to the ground like a rock. In order to instantly counter that increased tendency of the 737 Max-8 to embark on sudden nose-up attitudes, Boeing engineers MODIFIED the automated features of the aircraft, such that any sudden nose-up attitude shifts would be AUTOMATICALLY countered by a nose-down control input initiated by the flight computer, and NOT by the pilot. A manual over-ride switch was also added, such that IF the system malfunctioned, the pilot COULD intervene and take full manual control of the aircraft.

It turned out that the weak link in the new automated nose-down feature, was the airspeed and angle of attack indicators that were purpose built to inform the newly augmented automation when to kick in and force the plane's nose down. Those newly installed transducers were subsequently found to malfunction without warning, and thereby trigger the nose-down control input by the computer when there was actually NO need for such a corrective attitude change. The manual switch installed in the 737-Max-8 was thus installed so that the pilot could over-ride the computer as needed, BUT, there was insufficient pilot training on the subject, in several of the airlines that bought the new generation 737.

The Lion Air crash in Indonesia 5 months ago, and possibly the Ethiopian Airlines crash two days ago, MAY have both been the result of the computer forcing the plane's nose down very soon after takeoff, and the pilots' inability to over-ride that erroneous control input, in those precious seconds before the plane plunged into a death-dive.

Boeing is going to lose a lot of customers for the new 737 because of these two accidents with the 737 Max-8, unless that aircraft is either fitted with multiple redundancy features to augment the airspeed and angle of attack sensors, or alternatively, a comprehensive and monumentally expensive re-design of the whole aircraft is carried out, from the ground up.

On the bright side, the Boeing 787 Dreamliner has proved itself to be a work of aviation engineering perfection, with a superb safety record thus far. Any airline looking to stay with Boeing aircraft will be well advised to order the Dreamliner, and NOT the 737, at least for the next few years.
Re: China And Ethiopia Ground Boeing 737MAX Fleets After Second Crash In Five Months by PDPGuy: 7:08pm On Mar 11, 2019
PurestBoy:


Which airline is usingthat plane in Nigeria and do they compensate Nigerian victims too? I'll love to book someone to Abuja
So far, both Air Peace and Arik have ordered the 737 Max. But I expect them to cancel those orders, until Boeing fixes the flaws in the aircraft.

Nigerian (and other victims) of air crashes are entitled to compensation too. The monetary compensation differed from international flights and domestic flights.
Re: China And Ethiopia Ground Boeing 737MAX Fleets After Second Crash In Five Months by Beautyaddy: 10:31pm On Mar 11, 2019
Hmmm...even with the concerns of this latest development with the Boeing 737 max 8 most of the American Airlines have reported that they so far have no plans of grounding any of this aircraft model.

They are claiming that they have so far have not been experiencing any problems with the aircraft.
Re: China And Ethiopia Ground Boeing 737MAX Fleets After Second Crash In Five Months by bluecircle470: 9:43am On Mar 12, 2019
Faithful007:
Arik bought brand new planes.

Gbe gbe! Aviation minister Weldon. shocked
Re: China And Ethiopia Ground Boeing 737MAX Fleets After Second Crash In Five Months by tck2000(m): 6:04pm On Nov 30, 2019
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