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Re: Medical Science As The Provision Of God For Healing. by PaulAris: 5:26pm On Apr 13, 2019
advocate666:
I think you misunderstand Yahweh and are looking at him through the prism of the current crop of retards calling themselves christians.

Yahweh doesn't cure. He inflicts.

Yahweh created diseases, illnesses, pestillence and all types of turturing as punishment for either the isrealites that refused to obey him or those that he deemed enemies of his people. You can see numerous examples of this in the scripture.

Now what these christians do it they take the lies of Yahweh literally. Yahweh said he heals but he never healed anybody that naturally contracted any disease. He has no such powers. His powers of healing was restricted by the council of Elohim to heal only those afflictions that he himself caused.

That was why he was able to heal Job whose diseases he caused.
I thought you don't believe in "Yahweh"?!
Suddenly changed your mind?

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Re: Medical Science As The Provision Of God For Healing. by paxonel(m): 5:29pm On Apr 13, 2019
Martinez39:
Would it not be moral for an all powerful being to step in an take responsibility?
it will be very immoral for him to take over the very responsibily he created humans for, except in a situation where the problem is beyond the capacity of humans to handle.

What if humans begins to protest, baba God, you have taken my responsibility in the scheme of things?

Dont you think humans have right too?

If God begins to heal all the sick people who will then patronize medical doctors?
How will they make money and feed their family after studying for six years?

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Re: Medical Science As The Provision Of God For Healing. by Funaki: 5:54pm On Apr 13, 2019
paxonel:
whats the product of violence?
Is it not destruction, and sometimes people will sustain injury?
If injury is sustained what next, is it not hospital.
When doctors treat injury are they not healing.

Your mind have to be very dynamic when you read bible.

Replenishing the earth implies repair the earth, heal the earth.
Ofcourse, every human who sustain injury through violence are part of the earth so what are we talking?

Do you mean Genesis 6:11 and 13 means the earth was "healed" with violence? grin grin

it's the "filled" that's replenish not the "violence"
Re: Medical Science As The Provision Of God For Healing. by budaatum: 5:58pm On Apr 13, 2019
Martinez39:
According to the bible, the prayer of faith shall heal the sick and declaration of faith can move mountain.
JAMES 5:15 King James Bible
"And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him."

MATTHEW 7:7 King James Bible
7 "Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you. 8 For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened."

JOHN 14:13 King James Bible
"And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son."

... and the killer

MARK 11:24 King James Bible
"Therefore I say unto you, What things soever ye desire, when ye pray, believe that ye receive them, and ye shall have them."


Yes. If you think they've not, tell me how you know that? I ask you Buda, even if they have faith, can a prayer of faith heal the sick?


The bible never said have faith to a certain quantity. The bible said people should just have faith. According to the bible, a "drop" of faith is sufficient to move mountains.
MATTHEW 17:20 King James Bible
"And Jesus said unto them, Because of your unbelief: for verily I say unto you, If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; AND NOTHING SHALL BE IMPOSSIBLE UNTO YOU.


None. If you disagree, show me a case of anyone that has healed by faith.

You have to, it's for your own good. I don't see why this information is relevant to the discussion.
Your literalism astounds me! You must think "faith" is something one has in things one does not see. But I blame you not. It is an extant doctrine. You likely have not read what Jesus said when he was asked to move an [url=https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+4%3A1-11&version=NIV]ordinary stone[/url], and you want me to go about moving mountains! Where to, I wonder. In to your head?

Have you read buda's toe? It ends:

"buda had met the most wonderful caring people which instilled buda with faith that toes will move, and toes moved."

That "faith" is in the people, the hospitals, doctors, nurses, my family, the picture on the wall, the crane out the window, the clerk who moved my file about, those who served me food and many more whom I cannot name. And it's not as if I was so much more worthy of being cared for but by grace, as they say. My cousin, whom I left in Nigeria and who prays morning and night which I never did, died two weeks after I done my Buhari.

Faith does not mean sitting on your ass praying, 39. Some pray by reading, studying, storing wealth where moths can't get at it, and the faith and trust they have in the work they have done to acquire that wealth of knowledge is what we trust and have faith will cure us which is what happened in my case where a mountain moved.

I can't argue your doctrine with you 39. Not when you have an idea in your head of what my doctrine must be. I would advise you learn more about a person's beans before saying its the same as your beans though. If one tests ones faith by moving mountains, the mountain moved or one has not got faith, understanding, in the wisdom and the knowledge one has. Otherwise, they'd be using their faith to [url=https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+22%3A36-40&version=KJV]love their neighbours[/url] by [url=https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+21%3A15-17&version=KJV]healing and prolonging life[/url] because that is the doctrine of Christ. I apologise that many don't appear to have adopted this doctrine, but we look to the face of the Lord and tarry not that you too may comprehend.

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Re: Medical Science As The Provision Of God For Healing. by Martinez39(m): 6:05pm On Apr 13, 2019
paxonel:
it will be very immoral for him to take over the very responsibily he created humans for, except in a situation where the problem is beyond the capacity of humans to handle.
cancer, AIDS, Lukemia, AIDS (Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome), Lesch-Nyhan Syndrome, Heart Disease such as Severe Coronary Artery Disease, Ebola Hemorrhagic Fever etc. are all beyond the capacity of man as at now and man is working tirelessly to find the cure. Since this is beyond our capacity, why can't god step in? Remember, millions are dying and suffering from these diseases.

What if humans begins to protest, baba God, you have taken my responsibility in the scheme of things?
What a daft thing to say! grin No offence intended. Who would protest if god cures cancer and other terminal illnesses? Only a daft, very wicked and psychopathic individual would protest such. So you think people will revolt if god does something about their terminal illnesses? Really?

Dont you think humans have right too?
Humans have rights but healing their diseases isn't a violation of human rights expect if they say that they don't want to be healed. This is ignorant and stupid. No offence intended.

If God begins to heal all the sick people who will then patronize medical doctors?
How will they make money and feed their family after studying for six years?
If man invents telephone, Gmail and WhatsApp, who will patronise mail men? How will they make money and feed their family? I guess we should do away with phones, Gmail and WhatsApp so we can depend on the less efficient and relatively slow mail men?

If God starts healing, it would be a welcome development. Doctors will go and look for another job. So you mean god should let others suffer and die because doctors need to feed?
Re: Medical Science As The Provision Of God For Healing. by Martinez39(m): 6:44pm On Apr 13, 2019
budaatum:

Your literalism astounds me! You must think "faith" is something one has in things one does not see. But I blame you not. It is an extant doctrine. You likely have not read what Jesus said when he was asked to move an [url=https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+4%3A1-11&version=NIV]ordinary stone[/url], and you want me to go about moving mountains! Where to, I wonder. In to your head?
Your usual dishonesty is disgusting but I shall continue. There is a difference between daring god and praying a prayer of faith. Satan did the former and Jesus promised that if christians do the latter, he will grant them whatever they ask for.
MARK 11:24 King James Bible.
"Therefore I say unto you, What things soever ye desire, when ye pray, believe that ye receive them, and ye shall have them."
This what the bible says and it is clear on that. To say a different meaning, you have to make up your intended meaning and force it on that verse. Is this verse wrong? Did Jesus lie? Please let's not kid ourselves.

'You must think "faith" is something one has in things one does not see.'
So despite spending so much time reading the bible, you still can't get simple things right? undecided Let me educate you
HEBREWS 11:1 King James Version
"Now faith is the substance of things HOPED FOR, the evidence of things NOT SEEN."



Have you read buda's toe? It ends:

"buda had met the most wonderful caring people which instilled buda with faith that toes will move, and toes moved."

That "faith" is in the people, the hospitals, doctors, nurses, my family, the picture on the wall, the crane out the window, the clerk who moved my file about, those who served me food and many more whom I cannot name. And it's not as if I was so much more worthy of being cared for but by grace, as they say. My cousin, whom I left in Nigeria and who prays morning and night which I never did, died two weeks after I done my Buhari.
I have explained what faith is. To call this biblical faith is the height of dishonesty/stupidity. If your cousin prayed and died then Jesus lied in the following verse or it was made up:
MARK 11:24 King James Bible.
"Therefore I say unto you, What things soever ye desire, when ye pray, believe that ye receive them, and ye shall have them."


Faith does not mean sitting on your ass praying, 39. Some pray by reading, studying, storing wealth where moths can't get at it, and the faith and trust they have in the work they have done to acquire that wealth of knowledge is what we trust and have faith will cure us which is what happened in my case where a mountain moved.
SMH. The height of it.

I can't argue your doctrine with you 39. Not when you have an idea in your head of what my doctrine must be. I would advise you learn more about a person's beans before saying its the same as your beans though.
You are free to kids yourself and make up your beans for your comfort. I don't have a doctrine. There is nothing like "my facts" or "your facts." A fact is a fact no matter what.

If one tests ones faith by moving mountains, the mountain moved or one has not got faith, understanding, in the wisdom and the knowledge one has. Otherwise, they'd be using their faith to [url=https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+22%3A36-40&version=KJV]love their neighbours[/url] by [url=https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+21%3A15-17&version=KJV]healing and prolonging life[/url] because that is the doctrine of Christ. I apologise that many don't appear to have adopted this doctrine, but we look to the face of the Lord and tarry not that you too may comprehend.
Good day. Buda "religion and god is nonsense but the bible is valid and hold deep truths" atum.

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Re: Medical Science As The Provision Of God For Healing. by GreatResearcher: 7:18pm On Apr 13, 2019
paxonel:
it was not necessary!
You dont expect spiritual intervention on human errors.

John 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

Boeing 737 max was human error
So God doesnt come in when human error is involves right? I've seen a car accident were the driver was sleeping people didn't die. They said God intervend but now I understand that it wasnt God. God doesnt involves in human error.
Re: Medical Science As The Provision Of God For Healing. by Martinez39(m): 7:27pm On Apr 13, 2019
GreatResearcher:
So God doesnt come in when human error is involves right? I've seen a car accident were the driver was sleeping people didn't die. They said God intervend but now I understand that it wasnt God. God doesnt involves in human error.
His stupidity and dishonesty are incorrigible. It's best to stop engaging him. Sometimes, you just have to leave people to wallow in their rationality.
Re: Medical Science As The Provision Of God For Healing. by GreatResearcher: 8:07pm On Apr 13, 2019
Martinez39:
His stupidity and dishonesty are incorrigible. It's best to stop engaging him. Sometimes, you just have to leave people to wallow in their rationality.

Who is stupid among these two men (Joe and Jose)?




Joe: Swallows whatever that is been thrown into his mouth without minding if it will harm him.


Jose: refused to swallow what is been thrown into his mouth.. Then required to know if what is been thrown into his mouth is edible or not.



Cc Muttleylaff
Re: Medical Science As The Provision Of God For Healing. by MuttleyLaff: 8:34pm On Apr 13, 2019
GreatResearcher:
Who is stupid among these two men (Joe and Jose)?

Joe: Swallows whatever that is been thrown into his mouth without minding if it will harm him.
Jose: refused to swallow what is been thrown into his mouth.. Then required to know if what is been thrown into his mouth is edible or not.
Cc Muttleylaff
Joe is stupid for not doing a Berean test. God expectantly welcomes testing or checking everything and so, doesnt mind it

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Re: Medical Science As The Provision Of God For Healing. by PaulAris: 9:58pm On Apr 13, 2019
Martinez39:
If they claim god is all powerful, perfect and all loving and he heals, would it make sense for them to say that medical science is Yahweh's only provision for healing?
There is a book, a book of stolen secrets, kept from the minds of man who can't seem to comprehend its truth, power and reveal.
Concealed overtime to reveal its darkness to those who go seeking
...
It wasn't the decision of Yahweh to introduce Medical Science to man. But it was all part of his plan, I believe
Medical Science and science itself was a revelation to mankind to help with their living.
That's after my nigga! dropped out from Eden and multiplied. When angels began to dwell and reveal unto man secrets. And to some selected few, that of the heavens.
...
It does sound like a fairytale right?
Well, I won't ask of you to believe.
But open up thy understanding, that's all.
You was made smart enough for reason.
Don't let hate or a belief becloud thy view, I ask no judgement from you.

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Re: Medical Science As The Provision Of God For Healing. by PaulAris: 10:43pm On Apr 13, 2019
LordReed:
The fact is they don't know, they are guessing. Spontaneous remission? It is the god. Medical intervention? It is the god. Failure leading to death? Praise the god. Everything is the god even if they went to the local herbalist, it is the god. Such a bunch of guess work if I have ever seen any.
Surely, not everything is coincidence

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Re: Medical Science As The Provision Of God For Healing. by budaatum: 10:47pm On Apr 13, 2019
Martinez39:
Your usual dishonesty is disgusting but I shall continue. There is a difference between daring god and praying a prayer of faith. Satan did the former and Jesus promised that if christians do the latter, he will grant them whatever they ask for.
MARK 11:24 King James Bible.
"Therefore I say unto you, What things soever ye desire, when ye pray, believe that ye receive them, and ye shall have them."

I see you've resorted to your usual strategy of calling buda a liar just because I refuse to allow you impose your doctrine on me. Just listen to yourself with your "facts are facts", when it is the understanding and implication of facts that are at issue. You probably think Jesus lied too when he is said to have said "Therefore I tell you, whatever you ask for in prayer, believe that you have received it, and it will be yours". Here's Mark, KJV. Remember he had cursed a fig tree.

20 And in the morning, as they passed by, they saw the fig tree dried up from the roots.

21 And Peter calling to remembrance saith unto him, Master, behold, the fig tree which thou cursedst is withered away.

22 And Jesus answering saith unto them, Have faith in God.

23 For verily I say unto you, That whosoever shall say unto this mountain, Be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea; and shall not doubt in his heart, but shall believe that those things which he saith shall come to pass; he shall have whatsoever he saith.

24 Therefore I say unto you, What things soever ye desire, when ye pray, believe that ye receive them, and ye shall have them.

25 And when ye stand praying, forgive, if ye have ought against any: that your Father also which is in heaven may forgive you your trespasses.

26 But if ye do not forgive, neither will your Father which is in heaven forgive your trespasses.


I bet if I told you the text is teaching me not to curse you but to forgive you and forgive you and forgive you and forgive you for saying buda is "disgusting," "dishonest", "kidding", "stupid", and one day you'd learn the errors of your ways and stop being rude to buda and reason instead like a person with a brain, you'd say buda is a liar, when the truth is beans is just not beans and some people see the evidence and you are blind and cannot see.

Trust me, 39, I see you. And I have faith in you.

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Re: Medical Science As The Provision Of God For Healing. by budaatum: 11:52pm On Apr 13, 2019
LordReed:
The fact is they don't know, they are guessing. Spontaneous remission? It is the god. Medical intervention? It is the god. Failure leading to death? Praise the god. Everything is the god even if they went to the local herbalist, it is the god. Such a bunch of guess work if I have ever seen any.
So your issue, my Lord, is you can not accept that I may not have a clue how I was healed when I fell ill and into the hands of a good doctor who went against what could have been selfish interest to fleece me dry but sent me home; the fact that my body held together through a 4 hour drive to the airport and a seven hour flight to UK and a two hour drive home when it had for days been failing every half hour; that I just about managed to get to the hospital before my legs gave way; that specialists, my family, my friends, the porter, the crane, the picture of lavender on the wall, diagnosed my illness and put buda back together again, and so therefore, "thank God"? I guess I'm not used to stars lining up on my behalf or I'd be like you my Lord, moving stars at my will with the fingers on my hands. My will (or faith), could not have moved that mountain of illness out the way, yet move it surely did.

It was not instant however. I was an atheist all through my being ill and for three years after, but I cannot deny those stars lined up through no effort on my part except my faith which I always had even as an atheist. I willed by so little faith that I never once thought of feeling the need to pray asking to be healed. And I personally thanked everyone who assisted with my getting well. But I still find reason to extend my gratitude far beyond them because I just do not consider anything I am or have done makes me deserving of the care I got. And since I don't know wherefore it came (though I do but have no intersubjective words with which to describe it), what better name it give than God which fits the gap for now until I get a better understanding of how to put it?

Hence by the Grace of God is buda grateful for the wisdom and the talent of everyone through whom stars moved mountains to put buda back together again.

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Re: Medical Science As The Provision Of God For Healing. by paxonel(m): 1:01am On Apr 14, 2019
GreatResearcher:
So God doesnt come in when human error is involves right? I've seen a car accident were the driver was sleeping people didn't die. They said God intervend but now I understand that it wasnt God. God doesnt involves in human error.
sometimes people can be lucky anyway, but that does not mean it was God
Re: Medical Science As The Provision Of God For Healing. by paxonel(m): 1:40am On Apr 14, 2019
Martinez39:
cancer, AIDS, Lukemia, AIDS (Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome), Lesch-Nyhan Syndrome, Heart Disease such as Severe Coronary Artery Disease, Ebola Hemorrhagic Fever etc. are all beyond the capacity of man as at now and man is working tirelessly to find the cure. Since this is beyond our capacity, why can't god step in? Remember, millions are dying and suffering from these diseases.
the question is, why can't humans maintain simple preventive lifestyle of these diseases, should someone deliberately see fire and put his hand and then start calling God help help, simply because he has supernatural power?

What a daft thing to say! grin No offence intended. Who would protest if god cures cancer and other terminal illnesses? Only a daft, very wicked and psychopathic individual would protest such. So you think people will revolt if god does something about their terminal illnesses? Really?
you dont know humans, God who created them knows the kind of heart they have grin

Humans have rights but healing their diseases isn't a violation of human rights expect if they say that they don't want to be healed. This is ignorant and stupid. No offence intended.
nature demands that the natural ecosystem must be balanced, otherwise there will be chaos. Every sick person want to be healed, but even the sick knows that he must pay doctors for their service or there are no uses for medical science. Just like the way plants co-habits with herbivores to even scavengers we must all professionally co-habit and co-exist in this ecosystem, otherwise, if God didnt want it that way, then he will start healing the sick himself even cause herbivores to manufacture their food from sunlight without the help of plants.

Every human profession on earth is important just like every form of life is important.

If man invents telephone, Gmail and WhatsApp, who will patronise mail men? How will they make money and feed their family? I guess we should do away with phones, Gmail and WhatsApp so we can depend on the less efficient and relatively slow mail men?

If God starts healing, it would be a welcome development. Doctors will go and look for another job. So you mean god should let others suffer and die because doctors need to feed?
doctors are trying their best, you see all these diseases you mentioned earlier? cancer, AIDS, Lukemia, AIDS (Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome), Lesch-Nyhan Syndrome, Heart Disease such as Severe Coronary Artery Disease, Ebola Hemorrhagic Fever etc. The cure for these diseases are not discovered today does not mean that they will not be discovered in the future.

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Re: Medical Science As The Provision Of God For Healing. by dalaman: 2:46am On Apr 14, 2019
Christians always speaking and making ridiculous excuses for their imaginary God. .
Re: Medical Science As The Provision Of God For Healing. by Martinez39(m): 2:50am On Apr 14, 2019
dalaman:
Christians always speaking and making ridiculous excuses for their imaginary God. .
For this reason, I brand them the defenders of god.
Re: Medical Science As The Provision Of God For Healing. by MuttleyLaff: 6:27am On Apr 14, 2019
IAmSabrina:
I could accept this explanation but for the fact that god permitted these evils to exist in the first place
Why shouldn't He permit the evil(s) to emanate in the first place, afterall He did warn of the repercussion of disobeying His one and only simple command

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Re: Medical Science As The Provision Of God For Healing. by hopefulLandlord: 7:13am On Apr 14, 2019
Martinez39:
For this reason, I brand them the defenders of god.

you mean "Creators of yahweh"?

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Re: Medical Science As The Provision Of God For Healing. by Martinez39(m): 7:39am On Apr 14, 2019
hopefulLandlord:


you mean "Creators of yahweh"?
Lol. Creators and defenders of Yahweh.
Re: Medical Science As The Provision Of God For Healing. by frank317: 7:43am On Apr 14, 2019
MuttleyLaff:


It's about time both you guys begin to learn that it is God's prerogative to do thinks the way and manner He decides to. He doesn't answer to either of youse. He doesn't own either of youse an explanation for how He lets things happen or not happen on earth. It is why God is God and you and Martinez39 are the prideful, mouthy earthling quick to give the lips

This sounds more like how u think than how any God thinks.

Is this what God told you? You make God sound like an arrogant man. He can't create humans with brains and say he Owes them any explanation even when his actions are so contradictory and unreasonable.

Look you trying to explain away (and doing it badly by the way) how God prefers to watch man do trial and error for thousands of years. Who bears the cost of man's mistakes? Yet he takes the glory for mans success, telllin man he can do nothing without him.

Then when u run out if explanation, u suddenly remember God owes no one any explanation.
Why then is God all over the place in the bible talking trash,making silly promises he can't keep!

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Re: Medical Science As The Provision Of God For Healing. by frank317: 8:02am On Apr 14, 2019
MuttleyLaff:
Joe is stupid for not doing a Berean test. God expectantly welcomes testing or checking everything and so, doesnt mind it

The same God who owes man no explanation? How will man check and get the right thing if God answers not questions?
Re: Medical Science As The Provision Of God For Healing. by MuttleyLaff: 8:21am On Apr 14, 2019
frank317:
This sounds more like how u think than how any God thinks.

Is this what God told you? You make God sound like an arrogant man. He can't create humans with brains and say he Owes them any explanation even when his actions are so contradictory and unreasonable.

Look you trying to explain away (and doing it badly by the way) how God prefers to watch man do trial and error for thousands of years. Who bears the cost of man's mistakes? Yet he takes the glory for mans success, telllin man he can do nothing without him.

Then when u run out if explanation, u suddenly remember God owes no one any explanation.
Why then is God all over the place in the bible talking trash, making silly promises he can't keep!
You are usually the objective one out of the others, why the sudden departure from being objective frank317?

God created humans with brains, same way He created animals with brains and this is what He gets from humans. Ingratitude and unappreciativeness from someone like you and the others. In all your life, I doubt you've ever had a good word to put in for God and now you on top want to tag God has been arrogant.

I havent been trying to explain nothing away, I merely have been following on to comments about "man doing trial and error" done by another poster. I didnt introduce the phrase "man doing trial and error" to the thread.

Thomas Edison famously said: "genius is 1% inspiration and 99% perspiration" and that "I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work." Stop being disrepectful, saying God is talking trash and making silly promises. Dont you remember what Genesis 1:28 says, huh? Who is meant to be in charge of earth in that verse, huh? Who was given the responsibility to take charge and look after earth in that verse, huh? Who was advised to subdue the earth in that verse, hmm? The ball is in man's court to kick about for 7000 years, after which, every man will give account of the talent(s) handed him/her. Will give account, explain or justify every careless word spoken, thought, deed and action.

frank317:
The same God who owes man no explanation? How will man check and get the right thing if God answers not questions?
Dont quote me out of context man.
1/ Have you asked God questions and never got answers?
2/ What questions have you asked God that you got no answers back from?

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Re: Medical Science As The Provision Of God For Healing. by dalaman: 8:25am On Apr 14, 2019
Martinez39:
For this reason, I brand them the defenders of god.

They're actually the God they believe in and worship because God only and idea exist inside their minds. .
Re: Medical Science As The Provision Of God For Healing. by frank317: 10:18am On Apr 14, 2019
MuttleyLaff:
You are usually the objective one out of the others, why the sudden departure from being objective frank317?

God created humans with brains, same way He created animals with brains and this is what He gets from humans. Ingratitude and unappreciativeness from someone like you and the others. In all your life, I doubt you've ever had a good word to put in for God and now you on top want to tag God has been arrogant.

I havent been trying to explain nothing away, I merely have been following on to comments about "man doing trial and error" done by another poster. I didnt introduce the phrase "man doing trial and error" to the thread.

Thomas Edison famously said: "genius is 1% inspiration and 99% perspiration" and that "I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work." Stop being disrepectful, saying God is talking trash and making silly promises. Dont you remember what Genesis 1:28 says, huh? Who is meant to be in charge of earth in that verse, huh? Who was given the responsibility to take charge and look after earth in that verse, huh? Who was advised to subdue the earth in that verse, hmm? The ball is in man's court to kick about for 7000 years, after which, every man will give account of the talent(s) handed him/her. Will give account, explain or justify every careless word spoken, thought, deed and action.

are you comparing animal brain with human? hmmm

you guys should take a side already. if man is in charge of this earth, God should leave man run his things and not come out to take the glory when man gets things right after so many trial and error.
Its not even as if this God has been proven to exist... the only God we have been discussing is the one in ur mind.


Dont quote me out of context man.
1/ Have you asked God questions and never got answers?
2/ What questions have you asked God that you got no answers back from?


i havent seen any God to ask any question. I cannot be talking to myself in the name of asking question
Re: Medical Science As The Provision Of God For Healing. by MuttleyLaff: 11:50am On Apr 14, 2019
frank317:
are you comparing animal brain with human? hmmm
You brought up first, the issue about brain now, I only advanced on you introducing it, like noticing that animals have brains, but they dont entertain, harbour and/or foster the hate for God you have. Or do you love God, huh?

frank317:
you guys should take a side already. if man is in charge of this earth, God should leave man run his things and not come out to take the glory when man gets things right after so many trial and error.
Your problem is you have all the ready made answers to everything under the sun concerning God but dont understand diddly squat and so you keep on doing the paralogism, in addition to being truculent just for the sake and sound of it.

frank317, no one is taking the glory when man gets things right after many trial and error, have you forgotten Genesis 3:19, to the effect saying "man will have to work hard and sweat to make things happen", huh?

Life is like a bucket of pearls mixed in with a lot of worthless pebbles. So the onus rests on you to sift through a lot of stuff, pick things up, look at what you've picked up and when you stumble on pearls, then to dust them down, wipe and brush them up, until they bring out the shine, the luster, the sparkle and the light in them to illuminate you and what's around you

frank317:
Its not even as if this God has been proven to exist... the only God we have been discussing is the one in ur mind.
frank317, please never believe in the existence of God because you have to. The only reason you should believe in God, is because you freewill want to and most importantly, because it is the right and wise thing to do. OK?

frank317:
i havent seen any God to ask any question. I cannot be talking to myself in the name of asking question
Odiegwu!. Fair dos but you really are biased and not being fair in your observation though

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Re: Medical Science As The Provision Of God For Healing. by Trike: 12:45pm On Apr 14, 2019
CAPSLOCKED:
IF PRAYERS WORKED, AMBULANCES WOULD BE DRIVING TO CHURCHES INSTEAD OF HOSPITALS. —HARDMIRROR.

IF PRAYERS WORKED THERE WON'T BE ANY AMBULANCES, BECAUSE THROUGH PRAYERS TRAGEDIES WOULD BE EASILY AVERTED.


A famous poet once said, "If you can only write in capitols, you are an idiot." Truth is painful to those that hate it.

I have done extensive research into the veracity of miraculous healings. Real documented medical miracles and healing testimonies are really here for all that seek true enlightenment. We should allow those that prefer their own vomit to enjoy it, but encourage those that seek true enlightenment. For one thing, doctors are not in the business of documenting miracles. The term “miracle” does not belong in the medical lexicon. Only fearless doctors, unafraid of the ridicule of their brainwashed peers dare to declare that they were completely healed of a medically incurable disease with one touch.

We should be brave enough to post links of medical scientist\doctors testimonies of their own miraculous healing and the verified miraculous healings of their patients. It is well know that many doctors who are atheists have been brave enough to publicly declare that medical science was useless as a solution.

Best Documented Healing site!!
documentedhealings.com/
Real documented medical miracles and healing testimonies are really here! ... Doctors said he would never walk or talk again because he went so long without ...


Doctors, Academics Unite to Prove Miracles — Charisma News
https://www.charismanews.com/us/34002-doctors-academics-unite-to-prove-miracles
Sep 28, 2012 - Not since healing evangelist Kathryn Kuhlman's book trilogy of healing testimonies—complete with medical documentation—has anyone set ...

https://www.google.co.za/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=21&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjTj_75v8_hAhUZRxUIHVIRCIk4FBAWMAB6BAgFEAE&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rd.com%2Ftrue-stories%2Finspiring%2Fprayers-for-healing%2F&usg=AOvVaw2u9dn9av0uONTo_i6aFPCx

Supernatural Healing Archives - Sid Roth – It's Supernatural! | sidroth ...
https://sidroth.org/article_cat/supernatural-healing/

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Re: Medical Science As The Provision Of God For Healing. by Trike: 1:09pm On Apr 14, 2019
paxonel:


Dont you think humans have right too?

If God begins to heal all the sick people who will then patronize medical doctors?
How will they make money and feed their family after studying for six years?
Yes it is all about greed and money in the medical profession, that is why they post lies on the Internet to stop patients from experiencing miraculous healings.

All of those doctors suffering from their own incurable diseases with no solution from medical science have been seeking spiritual/miraculous healing and found it. Some are bold enough to declare it to a depraved world.

Here a medical doctor confirms his healing :

https://www.google.co.za/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=6&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwi3vZK6ws_hAhXXSBUIHdLAAxEQwqsBMAV6BAgKEBM&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DzLQ68vZtTrI&usg=AOvVaw3vHrhT-eCNxVsvv0qBx46h


Doctors, Academics Unite to Prove Miracles — Charisma News
https://www.charismanews.com/us/34002-doctors-academics-unite-to-prove-miracles

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Re: Medical Science As The Provision Of God For Healing. by Trike: 1:28pm On Apr 14, 2019
Martinez39:
More and more nonsense. While man is working tirelessly to find the cure for cancer and AIDS, people all over the world are dying because god wants them to unravel the cures he hid in nature. He watches them die when he could have simply pointed out the cure or provided his healing power. How logical. Good day.
Ignorant man refuse to believe that the cure is free and has always been in plain sight for all to see. But because they are greedy they seek complex expensive cures that match their delusions of grandeur.

Doctors mercilessly inject their patients with side effects to ensure a steady flow of lifetime customers. Medicine and drugs are now the most profitable repeat business in the world. If you want to become rich quick, manufacture and sell drugs.

If you want to fool the world, sell Black Holes.

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Re: Medical Science As The Provision Of God For Healing. by Martinez39(m): 2:33pm On Apr 14, 2019
Trike:
Ignorant man refuse to believe that the cure is free and has always been in plain sight for all to see. But because they are greedy they seek complex expensive cures that match their delusions of grandeur.

Doctors mercilessly inject their patients with side effects to ensure a steady flow of lifetime customers. Medicine and drugs are now the most profitable repeat business in the world. If you want to become rich quick, manufacture and sell drugs.

If you want to fool the world, sell Black Holes.
So what's the simple cure to AIDS and cancer?
Re: Medical Science As The Provision Of God For Healing. by Trike: 4:22pm On Apr 14, 2019
Martinez39:
So what's the simple cure to AIDS and cancer?
It is embarrassing that you dont know the true answer yourself. You say elsewhere that you may fail in university because you dont know the answer to a non-question, your problems are obviously self explanatory.

Martinez39, you take pride in burdening other with useless drivel as is evidenced below. You are a perfect example of how cheap education weaken the mind.
https://www.nairaland.com/5095858/need-question-urgent#76938122

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