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Re: Girls Show Less Interest In Mathematics – Presidency by loomer: 12:33pm On Apr 15, 2019
agarawu23:
maths hard generally and these Kekere girls out there aren't ready to give it all like before where girls top we guys in class.

You fit dey right, maybe I don too old. grin grin
Re: Girls Show Less Interest In Mathematics – Presidency by OkpaNsukkaisBae(m): 3:13pm On Apr 15, 2019
jullidee2006:
I don't believe this...its either the data is wrong or it's an old research... currently in most schools (primary, secondary and tertiary) the girl child is topping most classes and departments in the various fields... boys ain't studying again like before...

Dey have d statistics! Dey ain't complaining just 4 d sake of complaining.
Back in d days in varsity... Mech engine to b precise dey had less dan 15 girls 4rm 100L -500L. D same poor stat in maths and statistics dept.

However dey are doing big things in edu faculty.. Dey full dat place.. English and Literary Studies,,, Theatre Arts.
Re: Girls Show Less Interest In Mathematics – Presidency by Amanda4life: 11:28pm On Apr 15, 2019
Eh? Shebi. . you people are complaining that presidency is not showing interest in education . ah! they just find something talk shal and what they said is aomething concerning education. nigeria ntooo mmeeeh
Re: Girls Show Less Interest In Mathematics – Presidency by AreaFada2: 9:56am On Apr 16, 2019
Gerrard59:



BTW, why has David Lammy being aggressive these days?
If you observe carefully, you see more black politicians in the West becoming more radical and aggressive in their own way. Even in America in response to Trumps' populism and demagogy.

When Obama became US president it was seen as a watershed that will usher in a post-colour bias era in the West generally. But if anything it has caused a backlash from the white right wing, even pushing moderate whites more towards the right. It's not the only reason of course. Influx of immigrants, job & economic security fears and fear of Western demographics changing too rapidly are also there. But it's a major unspoken reason.

The fear is there that mixed race or black people could become leaders across the West. The West would more generally tolerate Asians in power like the gay Irish-Indian descent medic Leo Varadkar as Prime Minister of Ireland.

Many black British politicians probably saw Obama's emergence as giving them an opportunity to aspire more too. But the likes of Lammy, Chuka Umuna, Sam Gyimah, Afriyie and others have seen there are still very many obstacles on the way for typical outspoken black men. Irrespective of their brilliance.

Umuna, once seen as Britain's answer to Obama, has broken away from Labour altogether. He has obviously given up on becoming prime minister some day. The way he even left the race to become leader of labour party years back explained the frustration. Lammy, the most visible black labour MP aside Umuna does not even make labour shadow cabinet. Jeremy Corbyn has surrounded himself with black & ethnic minority women not considered to be a threat to jostle for the top position. Sam Gyima recently resigned from his ministerial post under Theresa May over Brexit.

Years back Adam Afriyie was being pushed to challenge Cameron (at the wrong time, probably deliberate to neutralise him before the right time), but he was cleverly silenced and shunted. Nobody hears of him now. Despite being the Queen's MP for Windsor, where Windsor Castle in located.

The "aggression" and radical moves you're seen from black male MPs is mostly in realisation that UKIP and other populist streams in UK politics have been allow to shape politics and public opinion since David Cameroon took over in 2010. With the decision to call a Brexit referendum under durex from UK/Farage proving disastrous for cohesion of Britain.

The chances of Scotland breaking away in years to come has even increased. It might even open the pandorax box in Ireland/Northern Ireland.
Re: Girls Show Less Interest In Mathematics – Presidency by Gerrard59(m): 4:37pm On Apr 16, 2019
AreaFada2:

If you observe carefully, you see more black politicians in the West becoming more radical and aggressive in their own way. Even in America in response to Trumps' populism and demagogy.

When Obama became US president it was seen as a watershed that will usher in a post-colour bias era in the West generally. But if anything it has caused a backlash from the white right wing, even pushing moderate whites more towards the right. It's not the only reason of course. Influx of immigrants, job & economic security fears and fear of Western demographics changing too rapidly are also there. But it's a major unspoken reason.

The fear is there that mixed race or black people could become leaders across the West. The West would more generally tolerate Asians in power like the gay Irish-Indian descent medic Leo Varadkar as Prime Minister of Ireland.

Many black British politicians probably saw Obama's emergence as giving them an opportunity to aspire more too. But the likes of Lammy, Chuka Umuna, Sam Gyimah, Afriyie and others have seen there are still very many obstacles on the way for typical outspoken black men. Irrespective of their brilliance.

Umuna, once seen as Britain's answer to Obama, has broken away from Labour altogether. He has obviously given up on becoming prime minister some day. The way he even left the race to become leader of labour party years back explained the frustration. Lammy, the most visible black labour MP aside Umuna does not even make labour shadow cabinet. Jeremy Corbyn has surrounded himself with black & ethnic minority women not considered to be a threat to jostle for the top position. Sam Gyima recently resigned from his ministerial post under Theresa May over Brexit.

Years back Adam Afriyie was being pushed to challenge Cameron (at the wrong time, probably deliberate to neutralise him before the right time), but he was cleverly silenced and shunted. Nobody hears of him now. Despite being the Queen's MP for Windsor, where Windsor Castle in located.

The "aggression" and radical moves you're seen from black male MPs is mostly in realisation that UKIP and other populist streams in UK politics have been allow to shape politics and public opinion since David Cameroon took over in 2010. With the decision to call a Brexit referendum under durex from UK/Farage proving disastrous for cohesion of Britain.

Thank you for the elucidation. I've watched some of Lammy's video and dude is always aggressive. However, Jeremy Corbyn has odd economic plans and policies which have semblance to that of Bernie Sanders. I don't see him winning. Regarding the Labour Party's leadership, does Diane Abbott not stand a chance (she also makes racial comments here and there. Blaming white people for everything) of being the PM?

I agree with the statement regarding Chuka Umunna being sidelined 'cos of the news then comparing him to Obama. From your post, you seem to imply that it's time for the UK to have a black prime minister. If so, why? Also, why (according to your post), do westerners prefer or trust Asians to head leadership positions instead of blacks?

At the bold, I read his article on Standard UK where he complained about the same thing as you - rising racism in the Tories. The Labour Party, as the Democrats did, is seen as the party that might produce the first black PM. However, I want to wager that the Tories might push persons like Sam, Bim Afolabi or even Kemi Badenoch to be PM. Could it be a reality?
Re: Girls Show Less Interest In Mathematics – Presidency by AreaFada2: 8:00pm On Apr 16, 2019
Gerrard59:


Thank you for the elucidation. I've watched some of Lammy's video and dude is always aggressive. However, Jeremy Corbyn has odd economic plans and policies which have semblance to that of Bernie Sanders. I don't see him winning. Regarding the Labour Party's leadership, does Diane Abbott not stand a chance (she also makes racial comments here and there. Blaming white people for everything) of being the PM?

I agree with the statement regarding Chuka Umunna being sidelined 'cos of the news then comparing him to Obama. From your post, you seem to imply that it's time for the UK to have a black prime minister. If so, why? Also, why (according to your post), do westerners prefer or trust Asians to head leadership positions instead of blacks?

At the bold, I read his article on Standard UK where he complained about the same thing as you - rising racism in the Tories. The Labour Party, as the Democrats did, is seen as the party that might produce the first black PM. However, I want to wager that the Tories might push persons like Sam, Bim Afolabi or even Kemi Badenoch to be PM. Could it be a reality?

At the bolded I seriously doubt. Since 9 years of Tory government, there has been no cabinet minister among the 21 ministers that attend cabinet meetings and rule the country with the prime minister. Only junior ministers (which are actually like directors of various sections of a ministry) like the one Sam resigned from. If a black person is not even chosen to attend cabinet meetings, I see no chance of one leading a Tory government. Sajid Javid is the only non-white that attends cabinet as home office secretary. Baroness Warsi, another Asian, used to be in cabinet but had to resign over some scandal years back.

Kemi has no chance. Maybe as party vice chairman at some point. She also once admitted hacking into the website of former labour interim leader Harriet Harman to plant good things about Tories conservative party on her website. Such a story will rear its head once she tries to contest for leadership.

Dianne Abbot is not popular with the UK public. A woman with very obvious African features/face and not young, very pretty, slim and light-skinned has no chance. She has also too openly championed black causes. Even though Paul Boateng is mixed race, his very combatant and civil right fight in the 1980s serious affected his chances. Probably the most brilliant black MP until Chuka Umunna. Boatent at least made it into the cabinet as Chief Secretary to the Treasury (number 2 in the VERY import finance ministry) under Tony Blair. But he was then shunted away to South Africa as High Commissioner/Ambassador nearing when Tony Blair would hand over to Gordon Brown. A plot to remove a potent rival for the post? I do not know.

Why do they prefer Asians? Well perhaps same reason why they'd give more opportunities across all sectors to Asians than Africans.

Black males are at the bottom of the pile in Western preferential list. The black woman might be labelled as angry, but not seen as a potent rival. Black males are seen as rivals for jobs, control of resources and getting WOMEN. Black males are discriminated against far more than anybody else. Crimes committed by a few are used to tar all black men. Black men get a much longer jail sentence for same crime than other races. Judges choose the top of the discretionary jail term always for black men, while choosing the lowest or medium range for other races. These are according to research findings published often.

As a black guy you just have to understand the system and know how to navigate it with integrity, hard work, tenacity and keep yourself on the straight and narrow. That way you never give them a chance to pounce on you.
Re: Girls Show Less Interest In Mathematics – Presidency by Gerrard59(m): 9:17am On Apr 17, 2019
AreaFada2:


At the bolded I seriously doubt. Since 9 years of Tory government, there has been no cabinet minister among the 21 ministers that attend cabinet meetings and rule the country with the prime minister. Only junior ministers (which are actually like directors of various sections of a ministry) like the one Sam resigned from. If a black person is not even chosen to attend cabinet meetings, I see no chance of one leading a Tory government. Sajid Javid is the only non-white that attends cabinet as home office secretary. Baroness Warsi, another Asian, used to be in cabinet but had to resign over some scandal years back.

Kemi has no chance. Maybe as party vice chairman at some point. She also once admitted hacking into the website of former labour interim leader Harriet Harman to plant good things about Tories conservative party on her website. Such a story will rear its head once she tries to contest for leadership.

Dianne Abbot is not popular with the UK public. A woman with very obvious African features/face and not young, very pretty, slim and light-skinned has no chance. She has also too openly championed black causes. Even though Paul Boateng is mixed race, his very combatant and civil right fight in the 1980s serious affected his chances. Probably the most brilliant black MP until Chuka Umunna. Boatent at least made it into the cabinet as Chief Secretary to the Treasury (number 2 in the VERY import finance ministry) under Tony Blair. But he was then shunted away to South Africa as High Commissioner/Ambassador nearing when Tony Blair would hand over to Gordon Brown. A plot to remove a potent rival for the post? I do not know.

Why do they prefer Asians? Well perhaps same reason why they'd give more opportunities across all sectors to Asians than Africans.

Black males are at the bottom of the pile in Western preferential list. The black woman might be labelled as angry, but not seen as a potent rival. Black males are seen as rivals for jobs, control of resources and getting WOMEN. Black males are discriminated against far more than anybody else. Crimes committed by a few are used to tar all black men. Black men get a much longer jail sentence for same crime than other races. Judges choose the top of the discretionary jail term always for black men, while choosing the lowest or medium range for other races. These are according to research findings published often.

As a black guy you just have to understand the system and know how to navigate it with integrity, hard work, tenacity and keep yourself on the straight and narrow. That way you never give them a chance to pounce on you.

Your last statement is very true and hopefully folks who are relocating or desire to do so from Nigeria to western or other developed countries should abide by those values. It's just painful that as race, we have not gone anywhere especially when compared to other races. I believe that Nigeria holds the key to development and upliftment of the race but when the best and brightest are leaving in droves (over 2,400 were granted visas for Canada's express entry immigration route last year. More than double of the previous year and this was a scheme that had less than a thousand applications in 2015) then all hope might be lost (assuming there was hope).

The bolded is funny oh. Are black men that desired and wanted? If so, why exactly?

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Re: Girls Show Less Interest In Mathematics – Presidency by AreaFada2: 10:46am On Apr 17, 2019
Gerrard59:


Your last statement is very true and hopefully folks who are relocating or desire to do so from Nigeria to western or other developed countries should abide by those values. It's just painful that as race, we have not gone anywhere especially when compared to other races. I believe that Nigeria holds the key to development and upliftment of the race but when the best and brightest are leaving in droves (over 2,400 were granted visas for Canada's express entry immigration route last year. More than double of the previous year and this was a scheme that had less than a thousand applications in 2015) then all hope might be lost (assuming there was hope).

The bolded is funny oh. Are black men that desired and wanted? If so, why exactly?
Lol@women part. It's normal among most animals even. Females in own flock, pride, group or whatever are especially coveted alongside the young ones. Any outside male is considered a threat. A male could not be more of an "outsider" than one with a very different skin colour. Therefore black men stand out as the biggest threat to maintaining status quo.

It's not so much about being desired. It's just that black men try harder while a white guy might be giving flowers for years without expressing his feelings never mind getting a kiss. Often it's the girl's VERY obvious body language that will encourage the guy to make a move. But the black man's hustler spirit nor get chill, of which 9ja guys are among the biggest hustlers. cheesy grin

Perseverance is the key. A guy facing possible deportation knows a woman to marry is his only chance so he won't be doing mumu there. grin

That aside, even during the days of slavery, lots of white women lured their male slaves into sex, even under durex mostly, considering their ripped physique from hard work & strength. Of course those men were usually hanged if the white wife then had a mixed race child or if they were otherwise caught. Women are also very rebellious beings. At times the girls whose families in private vilify black people the most (without any bad personal experience with blacks but just out of general prejudice) will date black boys secretly. Talk of forbidden fruit. I have seen it. grin cheesy

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Re: Girls Show Less Interest In Mathematics – Presidency by Gerrard59(m): 8:50pm On Apr 17, 2019
AreaFada2:
Lol@women part. It's normal among most animals even. Females in own flock, pride, group or whatever are especially coveted alongside the young ones. Any outside male is considered a threat. A male could not be more of an "outsider" than one with a very different skin colour. Therefore black men stand out as the biggest threat to maintaining status quo.

It's not so much about being desired. It's just that black men try harder while a white guy might be giving flowers for years without expressing his feelings never mind getting a kiss. Often it's the girl's VERY obvious body language that will encourage the guy to make a move. But the black man's hustler spirit nor get chill, of which 9ja guys are among the biggest hustlers. cheesy grin

Perseverance is the key. A guy facing possible deportation knows a woman to marry is his only chance so he won't be doing mumu there. grin

That aside, even during the days of slavery, lots of white women lured their male slaves into sex, even under durex mostly, considering their ripped physique from hard work & strength. Of course those men were usually hanged if the white wife then had a mixed race child or if they were otherwise caught. Women are also very rebellious beings. At times the girls whose families in private vilify black people the most (without any bad personal experience with blacks but just out of generally prejudice) will date black boys secretly
Talk of forbidden fruit. I have seen it. grin cheesy

grin grin

Thanks for your time to explain some things. Nice discussing with you.

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