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Re: Nigerian By Birth: A Dissection Of Atiku's Citizenship by superstar1(m): 3:47pm On Apr 15, 2019 |
If you can believe Jubril El Sudani, it will be daft of you not believe Seggasse Atiku Al Cameroonie 1 Like |
Re: Nigerian By Birth: A Dissection Of Atiku's Citizenship by baralatie(m): 3:48pm On Apr 15, 2019 |
Levant:the thing is buhari was born before 1960 |
Re: Nigerian By Birth: A Dissection Of Atiku's Citizenship by amaniro: 3:48pm On Apr 15, 2019 |
Levant: Why will he deny that he was born in jada? That said, Everybody from Adamawa state currently holding any office should quit. They're not Nigerians. Later you'll come up with that stale and lame line that I'm neither APC or PDP... ooh please |
Re: Nigerian By Birth: A Dissection Of Atiku's Citizenship by amaniro: 3:55pm On Apr 15, 2019 |
Do you know what?? Levant you're right. Had it been the plebiscite was conducted 1960 or 195... or there about. Or Atiku was giving birth to after 1961 He could have justified himself. This stuff is politically motivated. Nnamdi Kanu is something else. |
Re: Nigerian By Birth: A Dissection Of Atiku's Citizenship by vioment: 4:03pm On Apr 15, 2019 |
Nigeria is a combination of african tribes like other african countries; e depend on how the sharers take feel that day. Naija as we call it could have been in many other configuration eg with the whole cameroon and benin, or part of naija and benin republic, or part of naija and cameroon, or with niger or chad or CAR or with togo, etc. So anybody grandpapa wey from congo or kenya or sA wey been dey naija for 1960 and beyond, maybe because of transport fare or job, dun turn naija be dat with the generations to follow. E funny because it was supposed to be a thing of pride, now even d president of nigeria no mind go born him pikin anywhere outside of africa, as in make him go secure the pikin future, as in naija dun hopeless. If person fit renounce them citizenship to leave nigeria, that one na small task, wetin i dey talk sef, dat koko dun dey parole since. |
Re: Nigerian By Birth: A Dissection Of Atiku's Citizenship by akdjr(m): 4:16pm On Apr 15, 2019 |
What I can say about this Atiku case is that the power that be just want the man to spend more while trying to fight in a case he will never win in his entire life. 1 Like |
Re: Nigerian By Birth: A Dissection Of Atiku's Citizenship by sapele914(m): 4:32pm On Apr 15, 2019 |
naijapips04:President Buhari is from Daura,the original Hausa Caliphate,na them get Nigeria,Real Hausa Fulani,not like the masquerading atiku. 1 Like |
Re: Nigerian By Birth: A Dissection Of Atiku's Citizenship by garfield1: 4:33pm On Apr 15, 2019 |
amaniro:Remember atiku started it.sadly or happily,nnamdi kanu is like a prophet,a messianic fellow of sort.he will gain more ground after this |
Re: Nigerian By Birth: A Dissection Of Atiku's Citizenship by naijapips04: 4:34pm On Apr 15, 2019 |
sapele914: so Buhari is Hausa? you well so? What Nigerian indigenous tribe is buhari's father from? |
Re: Nigerian By Birth: A Dissection Of Atiku's Citizenship by garfield1: 4:36pm On Apr 15, 2019 |
amaniro:Everybody from adamawa is qualified to hold any post in nigeria but those born before 1961 are not qualified to be presidents while those born from 1962 like aisha are qualified.spot the difference |
Re: Nigerian By Birth: A Dissection Of Atiku's Citizenship by garfield1: 4:41pm On Apr 15, 2019 |
naijapips04:Before amalgamation,daura was part of the northern protectorate while jada was part of german ruled camerouun.after the amalgamation,daura was still part of nigeria and wholly indigenous to nigeria.fulanis before the coming of the british were part of nigeria.re?ember the sokoto jihad? Anyway,buhari origin is not in contention in any court but that of atiku. |
Re: Nigerian By Birth: A Dissection Of Atiku's Citizenship by garfield1: 4:45pm On Apr 15, 2019 |
baralatie:The constitution explained that clearly.those born in nigeria before or after 1960 or those whose parents were from nigerian.for instance the ex cjn onnoghen was born in ghana in 1940 but because his parents are ancestrally from nigeria,he is nigerian by birth.nigeria officially stsrted in 1914 and buhari was born in daura which was part of nigerian and even part of the northern protectorate which existed before 1914. |
Re: Nigerian By Birth: A Dissection Of Atiku's Citizenship by pstjoga: 5:03pm On Apr 15, 2019 |
Therefore, the legal implication of the 1961 plebiscite is that all communities of the “British Cameroon” are deemed to be communities indigenous to Nigeria. In fact, the people in Northern Cameroon were not part of the Republic of Cameroon, but they belonged to a geographical territory controlled by the British Colonial masters. To buttress the argument canvassed above, Section 10 of the 1963 Constitution is to the effect that those who became Nigerians by virtue of the February 1961 plebiscite are deemed to be citizens of Nigeria by birth and their communities are indigenous to Nigeria. So Atiku is a Nigerian!!!! Our incoming presido 1 Like |
Re: Nigerian By Birth: A Dissection Of Atiku's Citizenship by jimmynauty: 5:13pm On Apr 15, 2019 |
neyobills: Sai MAILAFIYA sai Atiku I love that |
Re: Nigerian By Birth: A Dissection Of Atiku's Citizenship by Kennitrust(m): 5:15pm On Apr 15, 2019 |
[size=8pt][/size]strongest will [s][/s][quote author=NgeneUkwenu post=77556523]So which one did Atiku and His Jada People fall into? Before or After Independence? [/quote ] |
Re: Nigerian By Birth: A Dissection Of Atiku's Citizenship by Kennitrust(m): 5:16pm On Apr 15, 2019 |
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Re: Nigerian By Birth: A Dissection Of Atiku's Citizenship by TheNarnian(m): 5:27pm On Apr 15, 2019 |
Well, that remains your opinion. You can't decide for everyone, and you're not a judge in a court of law. Let a court of competent jurisdiction decide if he's qualified to be a Nigerian, or not. I hope our lawmakers see how controversial and porous our constitution is. That's what happens when you copy and paste constitution like it's chemistry assignment. We need to scrap this constitution, and make another one where we correct the loopholes in the present constitution. 1 Like
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Re: Nigerian By Birth: A Dissection Of Atiku's Citizenship by akilo1: 5:45pm On Apr 15, 2019 |
Atiku is a Cameroonian ..argue with your accestor |
Re: Nigerian By Birth: A Dissection Of Atiku's Citizenship by rock003: 5:50pm On Apr 15, 2019 |
NgeneUkwenu: with your disgraceful show of shame on the social media, what kind of example are you laying for your kids as a mother? Would you want your kids to also display shamelessness like you? |
Re: Nigerian By Birth: A Dissection Of Atiku's Citizenship by MetaPhysical: 6:00pm On Apr 15, 2019 |
naijapips04: No, Jada was part of Ganye which was in Adamawa which was a UN mandate territory. When you talk about Royal Niger Company holdings...those were territories that Royal Niger Company owned and later sold off to the colonial authorities who then integrated them into the pre-existing colony and protectorate of Nigeria. An example of a RNC territory is Wawa and Ngwa areas, now in SE Nigeria. The UN mandate territory of Adamawa was never a RNC territory. In fact Germany was their colonial master. Germany lost it after its defeat in 1st world war. So Atiku's grand parents and parents were subjects of Germany just as our great and grand parents were subjects of British colonial government. |
Re: Nigerian By Birth: A Dissection Of Atiku's Citizenship by rock003: 6:02pm On Apr 15, 2019 |
MetaPhysical: Jada doesn't belong to Nigeria you say, but does Jada has a representative at the Senate and House of Representatives? Are you saying the people of Jada cannot vote and be voted for? |
Re: Nigerian By Birth: A Dissection Of Atiku's Citizenship by MetaPhysical: 6:14pm On Apr 15, 2019 |
naijapips04: I will. Im in store, give me time to get in car. The response will be detailed, not something i want to type on phone. In fact maybe when i get home. Give me about 2 to 2and half hrs. |
Re: Nigerian By Birth: A Dissection Of Atiku's Citizenship by NgeneUkwenu(f): 6:50pm On Apr 15, 2019 |
rock003: Mynd44 rule 2 |
Re: Nigerian By Birth: A Dissection Of Atiku's Citizenship by moshoodn(m): 9:42pm On Apr 15, 2019 |
Levant: I like your articulation and submission. Cheers! |
Re: Nigerian By Birth: A Dissection Of Atiku's Citizenship by Alanpoza007: 9:57pm On Apr 15, 2019 |
naijapips04:Mr stop comparing apples with oranges. Nigeria did not start in1960. There has been Nigeria since 1914 when amalgamation of Southern and Northern Protectorates took place. Buhari was born in Daura, his father from Daura and Daura belonged to the Northern Protectorate making Daura an indigenous Nigerian territory before independence. This is what makes Buhari a Nigerian citizen by birth. Atiku on the other hand was born in Jada (his parents from there also), which was obviously not in the Northern Protectorate but in British Cameroon, hence it wasn't an indigenous Nigerian territory before independence. It only became one in 1961 by virtue of plebiscite. This is why Atiku is NOT a Nigerian citizen by birth. |
Re: Nigerian By Birth: A Dissection Of Atiku's Citizenship by MetaPhysical: 3:07am On Apr 16, 2019 |
naijapips04: Ok bro. I am going to keep this answer very short. Between 1960 and 2019 we have had the following Constitutions. The Constitution of 1960 - Which introduced Parliamentary System of Government. Even though we were independent The Queen remained our Head of State. This was not acceptable and so brought in a new constitution. The Constitution of 1963 (1st Republic) - The Federation of Nigeria was renamed Federal Republic of Nigeria and The Queen removed as our Head of State in preference for an indigenous one. In January 1966 we had a coup that terminated 1st Republic and brought in Military and the Constitution of 1963 was abolished. The Military ruled with Decrees. The Constitution of 1979 (2nd Republic) - Military handed power back to Civilians. We created a new Constitution and adopted American System of Government, Democracy. In December 1983 another Coup sacked the 2nd Republic and terminated the Constitution. We went back to Military Decrees. The Constitution of 1993 (3rd Republic) - MKO won the election to return from Military to Civilian rule but Banbangida killed the 3rd Republic before it even started. The Constitution of 1993 was thus never implemented. An Interim Government was set up but it did not last before Abacha took over and prolonged Military rule. We returned to Civilian rule in 1999. The Constitution of 1999 (4th Republic) - This Constitution is the current and only living law of the land as we speak, any other Constitution prior to it are dead and invalid and cannot be applied to conduct Government or to adjudicate. In 2011 President Jonathan signed two Amendments to law, thus it is now referred as The Constitution of 1999 as Amended. Atiku's eligibility for the Presidency is addressed by the current Constitution. Unless we return Government and the Sovereingty wholesale to the Constitution of 1963, you cannot pick and choose items from it to address in court. Atiku is still not qualified to be President of Nigeria. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Nigerian By Birth: A Dissection Of Atiku's Citizenship by buhariguy(m): 10:32am On Apr 16, 2019 |
rock003:let me correct you first before i report. since 1961 adamawa is part of Nigeria and and anybody born from 1961 in adamawa can contest any election even to the level of president. |
Re: Nigerian By Birth: A Dissection Of Atiku's Citizenship by buhariguy(m): 10:51am On Apr 16, 2019 |
baralatie:anybody born within Nigeria before 1960 is qualified to contest. |
Re: Nigerian By Birth: A Dissection Of Atiku's Citizenship by buhariguy(m): 10:59am On Apr 16, 2019 |
amaniro:only those born before 1960 are affected, but those holding any position like SSG born before 1960 are not affected, which also means the current SSG can not contest for president. |
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