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Re: Surrogacy: Permissible Or Not? by Lukgaf(m): 12:35pm On May 02, 2019 |
Rashduct4luv: Maa sha Allah Sheikh |
Re: Surrogacy: Permissible Or Not? by Lukgaf(m): 12:37pm On May 02, 2019 |
That is different from surrogate Guest007: |
Re: Surrogacy: Permissible Or Not? by Lukgaf(m): 12:39pm On May 02, 2019 |
, you said my mind Rashduct4luv: |
Re: Surrogacy: Permissible Or Not? by HitSong: 9:43am On May 03, 2019 |
Lukgaf:Could you please help to advise in this? As - As couples that are still considering to marry. They want to opt for prenatal diagnosis that may lead to abortion if fetus is found out to be ss.... |
Re: Surrogacy: Permissible Or Not? by Nobody: 9:47am On May 03, 2019 |
Islam is too rigid. Why use phone and internet. Did abraham not use surogate 1 Like |
Re: Surrogacy: Permissible Or Not? by Sterope(f): 9:51am On May 03, 2019 |
People come up with this opinion did it by simple reasoning and application of Quran. If wet nursing is permissible, I really don't see why gestational surrogacy cannot be. The gestational surrogate does not share genes or DNA with the baby. The baby is formed with actual mother's egg and the father's sperm. However, traditional surrogacy may be haram because it involves the father's sperm and the surrogate's eggs. Attacking Western civilization is quite silly. Every culture has contributed to it one way or the other. Arab civilization is not all that either. You could stop using internet etc to show your disdain for it. Rashduct4luv: 1 Like |
Re: Surrogacy: Permissible Or Not? by sulasa07(m): 10:08am On May 03, 2019 |
Guest007:Ones you've being breastfed by a third woman,she is now family,and ur families cannot marry one another 1 Like |
Re: Surrogacy: Permissible Or Not? by AlBaqir(m): 10:16am On May 03, 2019 |
Joromi12: Islam is not rigid. In fact it is a religion that fit all ages. For a fact, there is no single direct evidence from the Quran or hadith where surrogacy has been forbidden. It's permissibility or impermissiblility is in line with the view of various Muslim school of thought. In this thread, two opinions (one against, and one for) have been stated. |
Re: Surrogacy: Permissible Or Not? by Debaiz: 11:09am On May 03, 2019 |
tintingz: You’re the ignorant one. Genetics is a very big word under which you find DNA. You need to read more about DNA. Ordinary extra marital sex deposits a bit of the guy’s DNA in the lady through the sperm, bread milk shares DNA let alone someone carrying the fetus for 9whole months. Your unique DNA is what makes your lineage once it is contaminated by a third party DNA then it is no more pure. |
Re: Surrogacy: Permissible Or Not? by Debaiz: 11:18am On May 03, 2019 |
Guest007: Blood doesn’t necessarily have to be involved before DNA is shared. Any body fluid carries DNA. Sperm deposits DNA even in the mother let alone the child. As long as a mans sperm enters the woman’s body then she carries the mans DNA for life. The more men she has sex with the more of different DNA strings that can be found in her body. Breast milk also carries the mothers DNA. So third party Surrogacy also involves a lot of body fluids exchange for 9months. 1 Like |
Re: Surrogacy: Permissible Or Not? by MissRaine69(f): 11:36am On May 03, 2019 |
You still have not given a definitive reason or rationale regarding surrogacy. How can something be viewed negatively if it did not exist in the time of the prophet? |
Re: Surrogacy: Permissible Or Not? by Empiree: 11:39am On May 03, 2019 |
Debaiz:this was actually my point. I don't believe surrogacy has to do with Zina as this has to do with physical evidence which is not the case. But lineage is very questionable. |
Re: Surrogacy: Permissible Or Not? by MissRaine69(f): 11:39am On May 03, 2019 |
Debaiz:Which medical school did you go to? If you did It Needs to be burned to the ground. |
Re: Surrogacy: Permissible Or Not? by Empiree: 11:43am On May 03, 2019 |
MissRaine69:haba...nitori kini?. Even medical schools have different opinions and different approaches to a medical procedure. They carry out their differences without burning down one another building to the ground 1 Like |
Re: Surrogacy: Permissible Or Not? by tintingz(m): 12:32pm On May 03, 2019 |
Debaiz:Read the article, the cell or blood from the surrogate mother is small to form a gene in the baby, there's no effect. Sperm and eggs of the intended parents are collected, this way it becomes the DNA/gene. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Surrogacy: Permissible Or Not? by MissRaine69(f): 12:42pm On May 03, 2019 |
Empiree:The core foundation of medicine is universal what differs is availability of resources. That school still needs burning. |
Re: Surrogacy: Permissible Or Not? by YakubuA: 12:58pm On May 03, 2019 |
MissRaine69: Muslim life is govern or suppose to be govern by the Shari'a. Shari'a is the speech of the Legislator (Allah swt) concerning the action of servant (Man/Jinn). All actions are sanctioned and require evidence from the Legislator (Allah swt). Surrogacy is an action hence need evidence of its permission from Allah (swt) and the fact that there is none confirm that it is not permissible. |
Re: Surrogacy: Permissible Or Not? by YakubuA: 1:05pm On May 03, 2019 |
AlBaqir: Brother this is not the case. All actions are sanctioned by the Shari'a which is the speech of the legislator regarding Man/Jinn actions. In other word in Islam before you carryout any action you must have the evidence of its permissibility. Muslim life is govern or suppose to be govern by the Shari'a. Shari'a is the speech of the Legislator (Allah swt) concerning the action of servant (Man/Jinn). All actions are sanctioned and require evidence from the Legislator (Allah swt). Surrogacy is an action hence need evidence of its permissibility from Allah (swt) and the fact that there is none confirm that it is not permissible. |
Re: Surrogacy: Permissible Or Not? by YakubuA: 1:23pm On May 03, 2019 |
Joromi12: No Islam is not rigid. Phone and Internet are results of technological development called Madaniyya in Islam and Islam encourage research and development and also permit the use of the product. No. Ibrahim (as) did not use surrogate. He married a second wife and Muslims are allowed to marry up to 4 wives. |
Re: Surrogacy: Permissible Or Not? by MissRaine69(f): 1:39pm On May 03, 2019 |
YakubuA:Right using that argument Why does Saudi Arabia have a Space programme? Is there evidence to support space travel? |
Re: Surrogacy: Permissible Or Not? by AlBaqir(m): 1:50pm On May 03, 2019 |
YakubuA: Allah and His Prophet warn as per laws of Halal and Haram: And, for what your tongues describe, do not utter the lie, (saying) This is lawful and this is unlawful, in order to forge a lie against Allah; surely those who forge the lie against Allah shall not prosper." (Surah An-Nahl, Verse 116) And Imam Abu’l Hasan Ali Daraqutni documents: Abu Tha’laba reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “Verily, Allah has made duties obligatory, so do not neglect them. He has set limits, so do not transgress them. He has made some things sacred, so do no violate them. He has remained silent upon matters as mercy for you, not out of forgetfulness, so do not search them out.” Grade: Sahih (authentic) according to Ibn Al-Qayyim Source: Ali ibn Umar Ad-Daraqutni, Sunan al-Dāraquṭnī (Dar Muhyid, 1422 A.H) Hadith #4316 http://www.islamweb.net/newlibrary/display_book.php?flag=1&bk_no=76&ID=4213 |
Re: Surrogacy: Permissible Or Not? by YakubuA: 2:51pm On May 03, 2019 |
MissRaine69: Yes there is evidence for that. Islam encourage us engage in research and development in Science and Technology for the benefit of humanity. And space exploration is for that. In addition it will also strengthen our faith in the creator of this gigantic universe. 1 Like |
Re: Surrogacy: Permissible Or Not? by MissRaine69(f): 3:00pm On May 03, 2019 |
YakubuA:Evidence to support the Big Bang very good, creationism make no sense. Secondly what is the evidence to support a space programme and the possibility of life on other planets? Care to share? |
Re: Surrogacy: Permissible Or Not? by YakubuA: 3:07pm On May 03, 2019 |
AlBaqir: All your quotations are correct. But how do we interpret these quotations? We look at how the Sahaba (RA) lived their lives. It is known to every Muslim by necessity that the Sahaba (RA) never engaged in any action until they sought about its permissiblity from the Prophet (saw). And nobody understand Islam more than the Prophet (saw) whom Allah (swt) told us that his Sahaba (RA) are the best generation of mankind. So if your interpretation and understanding differ than the Sahaba(RA), Tabi'i or Tabi'i Tabi'i then your interpretation and understanding is wrong. |
Re: Surrogacy: Permissible Or Not? by YakubuA: 3:29pm On May 03, 2019 |
MissRaine69: Yes there is evidence for the big bang in the Qur'an. In fact the big bang itself confirm the existence of the Creator. There are several verses of the Qur'an where Allah(swt) draw our attentions to His creations of which include the celestial bodies in space and the universe as a whole. All the verses are evidences of His permissibility for us to research, explore and be fully convince of His existence rationally. This is because He is unlimited, beyond time and space so all our faculties cannot comprehend Him except either through rational thinking or by textual revelation. And hence He granted every man the capability of rational thinking in order to convince oneself about His existence. |
Re: Surrogacy: Permissible Or Not? by MissRaine69(f): 3:36pm On May 03, 2019 |
YakubuA: So who created the Creator? |
Re: Surrogacy: Permissible Or Not? by Nobody: 3:44pm On May 03, 2019 |
MissRaine69: They never do. I think a man's sperm with his wife's egg in another woman should be okay but using another sperm or egg, requires you to have the child know who their other siblings are. What if you were an egg and you end up marrying your brother from the donor. Islam is common sense. I could see where surrogacy unchecked can be Haram. A child has a right to its biological lineage for many reasons! |
Re: Surrogacy: Permissible Or Not? by YakubuA: 3:51pm On May 03, 2019 |
MissRaine69: Think about it. The Creator was not created because if He was created then He would not have been Creator but a creature. But we call Him Creator so He must not have been created by definition. This is rational thinking. |
Re: Surrogacy: Permissible Or Not? by MissRaine69(f): 3:54pm On May 03, 2019 |
Guest007:Exactly Someone also needs to explain DNA to him . Secondly they have IVF and donor egg faculties in the Middle East. |
Re: Surrogacy: Permissible Or Not? by MissRaine69(f): 3:56pm On May 03, 2019 |
YakubuA:That’s not a rational explanation it’s what I call an evasive attempt to explain what you don’t have answer for. |
Re: Surrogacy: Permissible Or Not? by Debaiz: 4:03pm On May 03, 2019 |
MissRaine69: Your response alone has given you away as a non medical student so you have no moral right whatsoever to attempt burning any school down. A comment was made as a medical person if you are(obviously you’re not) should give a your contrary opinion based on facts rather than attempting to burn a school. What a laughable submission. Let’s hear your opinion on it rather than castigate or are you afraid it may be too stupid for the internet to accommodate? |
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