godlyguy:


Are the royal family Black?

no, why ask?

OyinbowithaTan:
no, why ask?

It's still WHITE monoploly

godlyguy:


It's still WHITE monoploly

lol

godlyguy:


It's still WHITE monoploly

Yeah Arabic white, what would you expect? People who purple or blue?

OyinbowithaTan:
Yeah Arabic white, what would you expect? People who purple or blue?

OyinbowithaTan:
Yeah Arabic white, what would you expect? People who purple or blue?

morpheus24:


A necessary evil needed in a society that is on record to be the most unequal.

https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/post-apartheid-south-africa-inequality-display-62870808

Capitalism has failed the South African state and the insistence that it's ideals alone will solve the woes of income disparities and upward social mobility for the poorest in that society is glaringly obvious at this stage in the countries democracy.

The so called opposition the DA continue to flaunt their success in the Western cape but if you visit that place and not just cape town but the entirety of the Western cape you will see for yourself that basically the party is a "white" controlled" "keep the status quo" party that is hell bent on protecting the ill gotten wealth of the "whites" in South Africa while slowing down the corrective measures that are need to bring equality to that province.

Malema's socialist ideas are needed in the overall discussion of how South Africa needs to move forward in addressing the economic problems that plague the country and though admittedly he does sometimes use strong rhetoric, the overall ideas of the EFF are not far fetched and by no means a replica of the socialist ideas of Venezuela which has a different history.

The EFF will continue to increase its block of votes because it caters to the underclass and frustrations of the lower class, something the ANC and the DA are ineffective in articulating.

You don't know what you are talking about buddy. Your Malema lives in Sandton, wears designer clothes and drives around in style. You think he cares about the poor? . You think it's the DA that made the blacks poor?. How about you look inside the party that they have been voting for for years? . Is the ANC not the one looting and stealing, remember shower bouy?. Yeah , let's blame the whites for this too.

If the country had majority smart people, the ANC would be a thing of the past . How can criminals and jailbirds lead a prosperous nation ?. The only thing these failures are good at is stealing , womanizing and blaming the white man for their problems. If SA was given to foward thinking people to lead it , it would be a first world country by now , but some idiots keep on voting for their fellow criminals .

kemptonpost:



You don't know what you are talking about buddy. Your Malema lives in Sandton, wears designer clothes and drives around in style.

so the point here is if he lives in these areas therefore he cannot advocate for the poor class. Maybe he understands their plights because he comes from such beginnings more so than most Whites do, don't you think?

kemptonpost:

You think he cares about the poor? . You think it's the DA that made the blacks poor?.

The DA didn't create poverty however it is not doing much to eliminate it. The Hout bay, Bo kaap communities that live close to the cities are systematically being gentrified, yet the DA is there having meetings about how to come to a compromise when we all know that big developers have the party pretty much in their pockets.

The DA is the protector of the status quo and "white monopoly capital". They indirectly are not lifting anyone out of poverty in the western cape. They are selling the place to the highest bidder.

kemptonpost:

How about you look inside the party that they have been voting for for years? . Is the ANC not the one looting and stealing, remember shower bouy?. Yeah , let's blame the whites for this too.

In my opinion the ANC is as corrupt as the Nationalist "White" party. The DA consists of "remnants" of opposition parties to the Nationalist party that coalesced into one party and continue to protect the inherited "White priviledge" and ill gotten wealth that exists in the name of Capitalism. They are trying to be inclusive but do not articulate their agenda convincingly enough to turn the tide in SA politics. I pity Maimane.

morpheus24:


so the point here is if he lives in these areas therefore he cannot advocate for the poor class. Maybe he understands their plights because he comes from such beginnings more so than most Whites do, don't you think?



The DA didn't create poverty however it is not doing much to eliminate it. The Hout bay, Bo kaap communities that live close to the cities are systematically being gentrified, yet the DA is there having meetings about how to come to a compromise when we all know that big developers have the party pretty much in their pockets.

The DA is the protector of the status quo and "white monopoly capital". They indirectly are not lifting anyone out of poverty in the western cape. They are selling the place to the highest bidder.





In my opinion the ANC is as corrupt as the Nationalist "White" party. The DA consists of "remnants" of opposition parties to the Nationalist party that coalesced into one party and continue to protect the inherited "White priviledge" and ill gotten wealth that exists in the name of Capitalism. They are trying to be inclusive but do not articulate their agenda convincingly enough to turn the tide in SA politics. I pity Maimane.

Where's your proof?

godlyguy:


Where's your proof?

Proof of what?

kemptonpost:



Actually we would rather have the immigrants around . Immigrants don't demand anything , they work hard for everything and longer hours without toy -toy. Immigrants are respectful of authority unlike some entitled people groups here ..

This is a classic divide and conquer tactic used in capitalist system. So the immigrants are docile persons who will work for "massa" for under a living wage as house boys, dog walkers, construction worker, security guards, nannies etc.

Meanwhile the employer maximizes his benefits by employing cheap labor that is unfortunately abundant while steering up resentment and creating conflicts between those who seek greater upward wage mobility and those who are desperate to survive while earning less than a living wage.

Bravo my clever Buddy!

morpheus24:


This is a classic divide and conquer tactic used in capitalist system. So the immigrants are docile persons who will work for "massa" for under a living wage as house boys, dog walkers, construction worker, security guards, nannies etc.

Meanwhile the employer maximizes his benefits by employing cheap labor that is unfortunately abundant while steering up resentment and creating conflicts between those who seek greater upward wage mobility and those who are desperate to survive while earning less than a living wage.

Bravo my clever Buddy!

There are NO wealthy Socialist countries. There almost no Socialist countries anymore period.

OyinbowithaTan:

There are NO wealthy Socialist countries. There almost no Socialist countries anymore period.

There are also countries in which the classic economic capitalist system in its purest tenants are not practiced or have been manipulated to serve a ruling class.

We have governments colluding with "Monopoly capital" to control that state and impose policies that continue to enrich and give privileges to a "special class" in society be that special class "white people" or "black cronies".

Your western version of this economic system has expired and needs to reformed to fit the peculiarities of the society you find yourself in.

The EFF's ideologies will continue to remain an integral component in resolving that dilemma, whether you like it or not.

morpheus24:


There are also countries in which the classic economic capitalist system in its purest tenants are not practiced or have been manipulated to serve a ruling class.

We have governments colluding with "Monopoly capital" to control that state and impose policies that continue to enrich and give privileges to a "special class" in society be that special class "white people" or "black cronies".

Your western version of this economic system has expired and needs to reformed to fit the peculiarities of the society you find yourself in.

The EFF's ideologies will continue to remain an integral component in resolving that dilemma, whether you like it or not.

IDK what the monopoly laws are in SA. Buy yes of course corporations and their investors lobby politicians for favorable laws etc. In the freest sense capitalism is the mutual exchange of goods, services, money between 2 parties. As an example in the US decades ago phone companies were regulated like a quasi government controlled company. They were granted exclusive control over regions, like a utility. Therefore they were stagnant. You pay X amount for 1 or 2 landlines, even had to buy their phones, no explosion of technology. Then something happened. Electronic companies, using cassette machines, created machines where someone could leave a message if nobody answered a phone call.

You could plug this into the phone line.
Even making a call 100 miles away was expensive. Now you call globally for free. The moral of the story is when government got out of the phone business there was an explosion of technology that rivaled the industrial age.

OyinbowithaTan:


IDK what the monopoly laws are in SA. Buy yes of course corporations and their investors lobby politicians for favorable laws etc. In the freest sense capitalism is the mutual exchange of goods, services, money between 2 parties. As an example in the US decades ago phone companies were regulated like a quasi government controlled company. They were granted exclusive control over regions, like a utility. Therefore they were stagnant. You pay X amount for 1 or 2 landlines, even had to buy their phones, no explosion of technology. Then something happened. Electronic companies, using cassette machines, created machines where someone could leave a message if nobody answered a phone call.

You could plug this into the phone line.
Even making a call 100 miles away was expensive. Now you call globally for free. The moral of the story is when government got out of the phone business there was an explosion of technology that rivaled the industrial age.

Capitalism 101. I get it it.

However when a corporate body is endowed with every political right as "person" or a "body" and can lobby this government for "favorable" laws which are designed to manipulate the system and maximize returns at the expense of the masses then the system is broke.


Take the debacle in the US in 2007 with CDO's_ collaterized debt obligations that were sold on the back of the ability of mortgage payment. The market speculates and inflates the prices homes, gives out loans to unqualified peoples to increase profits on that end, insurance companies also increase revenue as a result, speculators make money from all this false money being created. The signs that he bubble is about to burst is there but the "FREE HAND OF THE MARKET" rains supreme so please don't touch it MR. Government, the market will correct itself automatically.

Nope, it doesn't. Financial disaster. Speculators free to go, no jail terms. Banks bailed out with millions of tax payer dollars, The producers rewarding for putting everybody in this mess.

The home owners no bail out, no relief. They have to suck it up. They signed the dotted lines so hey that's capitalism for you. Meanwhile you can't recover because wages are stagnant and these lobbyist continue to influence laws that are supposed support such people.

In a capitalist system only producers are rewarded, the rest of us are serfs or slaves to "massa". Its slavery simply revised.

morpheus24:


Capitalism 101. I get it it.

However when a corporate body is endowed with every political right as "person" or a "body" and can lobby this government for "favorable" laws which are designed to manipulate the system and maximize returns at the expense of the masses then the system is broke.


Take the debacle in the US in 2007 with CDO's_ collaterized debt obligations that were sold on the back of the ability of mortgage payment. The market speculates and inflates the prices homes, gives out loans to unqualified peoples to increase profits on that end, insurance companies also increase revenue as a result, speculators make money from all this false money being created. The signs that he bubble is about to burst is there but the "FREE HAND OF THE MARKET" rains supreme so please don't touch it MR. Government, the market will correct itself automatically.

Nope, it doesn't. Financial disaster. Speculators free to go, no jail terms. Banks bailed out with millions of tax payer dollars, The producers rewarding for putting everybody in this mess.

The home owners no bail out, no relief. They have to suck it up. They signed the dotted lines so hey that's capitalism for you. Meanwhile you can't recover because wages are stagnant and these lobbyist continue to influence laws that are supposed support such people.

In a capitalist system only producers are rewarded, the rest of us are serfs or slaves to "massa". Its slavery simply revised.

The real estate collapse in the USA was 100% based not of the free market but of government backed loans. Same deal with government loans for university tuition. The reason why college costs so much is because of easy access to tuition loans.

morpheus24:


This is a classic divide and conquer tactic used in capitalist system. So the immigrants are docile persons who will work for "massa" for under a living wage as house boys, dog walkers, construction worker, security guards, nannies etc.

Meanwhile the employer maximizes his benefits by employing cheap labor that is unfortunately abundant while steering up resentment and creating conflicts between those who seek greater upward wage mobility and those who are desperate to survive while earning less than a living wage.

Bravo my clever Buddy!

No one is steering up anything here , immigrants are good workers , they don't complain about long hours and salaries like the entitled local crew . They understand what jobs are for . Immigrants are also not violent, you are much safer as their boss than you are around the Malemas running around without any discipline or home training .

morpheus24:


so the point here is if he lives in these areas therefore he cannot advocate for the poor class. Maybe he understands their plights because he comes from such beginnings more so than most Whites do, don't you think?

How can an uneducated savage live in those areas if not for corruption and the brain dead moegoes that put him in parliament ?. Malema is better suited for mines , far away from state affairs. So because he is black he gets the benefit of a doubt than the so called white monopoly capital they keep on ranting about?.


The DA didn't create poverty however it is not doing much to eliminate it. The Hout bay, Bo kaap communities that live close to the cities are systematically being gentrified, yet the DA is there having meetings about how to come to a compromise when we all know that big developers have the party pretty much in their pockets.

Why don't these people go back to where they come from instead of invading the cape ?. The DA will prioritise it's voters before any parasites.

The DA is the protector of the status quo and "white monopoly capital". They indirectly are not lifting anyone out of poverty in the western cape. They are selling the place to the highest bidder.

Says a dirty drug dealers from the wastelands of Africa?


In my opinion the ANC is as corrupt as the Nationalist "White" party. The DA consists of "remnants" of opposition parties to the Nationalist party that coalesced into one party and continue to protect the inherited "White priviledge" and ill gotten wealth that exists in the name of Capitalism. They are trying to be inclusive but do not articulate their agenda convincingly enough to turn the tide in SA politics. I pity Maimane.

Maimane is the greatest darkie there is in south Africa, he understands politics , economics and better yet he is not divicise like the ungreatful black middle class who are acting worse than the poor in playing the victim card .

kemptonpost:


No one is steering up anything here , immigrants are good workers , they don't complain about long hours and salaries like the entitled local crew . They understand what jobs are for . Immigrants are also not violent, you are much safer as their boss than you are around the Malemas running around without any discipline or home training .

This is why these stupid black Zulus are angry with Nigerians, we work harder than them and we get along with whites over there without blaming them for our stupidity.

OyinbowithaTan:


The real estate collapse in the USA was 100% based not of the free market but of government backed loans. Same deal with government loans for university tuition. The reason why college costs so much is because of easy access to tuition loans.

Stop it. You act as if the invisible hand of the free market works in perfection. So the speculators, need to maximize profits at "all costs" and the manipulation of the market has absolutely no bearing on the consequences of the collapse.

Give me a break!

kemptonpost:


No one is steering up anything here , immigrants are good workers , they don't complain about long hours and salaries like the entitled local crew . They understand what jobs are for . Immigrants are also not violent, you are much safer as their boss than you are around the Malemas running around without any discipline or home training .

you are just talking for the sake of it now but I understand you need a platform to vent.

kemptonpost:


Maimane is the greatest darkie there is in south Africa, he understands politics , economics and better yet he is not divicise like the ungreatful black middle class who are acting worse than the poor in playing the victim card .

White privileged propaganda, the more reason we need Julius in this debate.

morpheus24:


Stop it. You act as if the invisible hand of the free market works in perfection. So the speculators, need to maximize profits at "all costs" and the manipulation of the market has absolutely no bearing on the consequences of the collapse.

Give me a break!

Socialism does not work, I know you want to believe it can work but it doesn't

This is how disappointed Malema was after election results.

Anyway my 5 cents worth would be a mixture of both Capitalism and Socialism like Sweden but with a bias towards black empowerment and a focus towards education, healthcare, land reform and business development.

OyinbowithaTan:


The real estate collapse in the USA was 100% based not of the free market but of government backed loans. Same deal with government loans for university tuition. The reason why college costs so much is because of easy access to tuition loans.

true

Africa never seizes to amaze me...
https://www.vox.com/world/2019/5/11/18563327/south-africa-election-anc-ramaphosa

ANC should better do well this time around or get KICKED

morpheus24:


White privileged propaganda, the more reason we need Julius in this debate.

You need a k ...for What?. Who will dig my mine for me if they are all out of duty? . Propaganda is usually an excuse for jobless blackies who need proper handling like Malema and yourself.

morpheus24:


you are just talking for the sake of it now but I understand you need a platform to vent.

As an untrained k.....I understand your cheekiness , you must be one of those violent eff and blf members that we will soon subdue. Stealing white properties and farms will soon be a deadly mistake.

Johncables402:


This is why these stupid black Zulus are angry with Nigerians, we work harder than them and we get along with whites over there without blaming them for our stupidity.

You are a good immigrant, how I wish you would teach these unruly children of " mama " to take their position and know their place. They lack respect and knowledge of history .

kemptonpost:


[s]You need a k ...for What?. Who will dig my mine for me if they are all out of duty? . Propaganda is usually an excuse for jobless blackies who need proper handling like Malema and yourself.[/s]

Meaningless and empty statement by a frustrated pale face who is just venting his frustrations out on faceless forum..
Don't worry I understand, its okay, let it all out, it helps with the healing process.

You do also have the option of checking into a psych ward. I know .. I know Aal those "Darkies" driving you insane, eish?

kemptonpost:


As an untrained k.....I understand your cheekiness , you must be one of those violent eff and blf members that we will soon subdue. Stealing white properties and farms will soon be a deadly mistake.

1.Its okay my bruh you can say "kaffir", the word is powerless against my type, In fact the etymology of the word is Arabic, it means "heathen", "pagan" or unbeliever, borrowed by your White "Christian" brothers when they sort to differentiate baptized Coloreds and blacks from non baptized black peoples.

2. How can people steal something that was originally stolen in the first place, the audacity I tell you. Compensation is for the work put into the Land but make no mistake a good portion of it is stolen land. If you steal something, give it back!