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Google Ban On Huawei : Implication On The Present And Future Huawei Business by Techvenge: 6:17am On May 25, 2019
It’s been a while since the tech world has seen a story so complex and with such serious and far-reaching implications as this.

Even when the P30 Pro was launched, Huawei didn’t dominate the headlines as it has over the past few weeks while it battles against serious threats to its business.



Some may think this story began recently but the truth is, this has been battling away under the surface for years. The US has long considered the Chinese firm a threat to national security.

The accusations that Huawei could exploit alleged backdoors in its network infrastructure on behalf of the Chinese government for espionage actually stopped the Mate 20 Pro from launching in the U.S at the beginning of 2018 after deals with networks fell apart due to government pressure.

The U.S meanwhile continued to call Huawei a threat to national security. An accusation that so far has not been backed up by any evidence shown to the public and one which Huawei has consistently denied saying it will not and will never implant backdoors.

Fast-forward to 2019 and the situation escalated. In January, the US Justice Department filed criminal charges against Huawei accusing it of stealing technology from T-mobile and also alleged that two companies said to be tied with Huawei, along with Huawei CFO Wanzhou Meng who was arrested in Canada at the end of 2018, violated sanctions by clearing transactions with Iran.

READ: WHY FOREIGN TECH COMPANIES ARE BANNED IN CHINA

While Huawei responded by filing a lawsuit against the US government stating that it was unconstitutional to block Huawei from selling its products and equipment in the U.S.

At the same time, foreign governments came under pressure from the U.S not to use Huawei equipment for their 5G infrastructure with the UK currently still undecided about the firm’s level of involvement in it soon to launch 5G Network.

If all this wasn’t serious enough, on May 15th the US Department of Commerce added Huawei to its entity list. This prohibits the company from acquiring US made parts, components and other products from US companies without government approval. This sent shockwaves through the tech world and caught everybody’s attention.

Huawei situation was no longer just about national security and allegations of spying. It has suddenly become a serious piece of leverage in a large politically motivated trade war between the US and China.

Google was the first to comply with the ruling, without the ability to purchase Google licences Huawei would not have access to crucial Android security updates or potentially Google services for future devices.

At this point, the drastic move was quickly revised by the US government and a temporary general license was issued until August 19th allowing Huawei to maintain existing commitments and purchase licenses for existing products.

Intel, Qualcomm and perhaps most importantly ARM have also complied with this ruling. ARM is key because its processor architecture is used to build the Kirin mobile processor used in almost all Huawei smartphones including the p30 pro and the Mate 5G folding phone.

Without a license to use ARMs architecture, without a license to use Google services on Android or the ability to buy any components it may need from US companies. Huawei smartphone business in the West could be crippled if the situation is not resolved.

Huawei, however, is not perturbed by these events the company founder has been quoted by the Chinese media by saying it won’t experience a supply shortage and that is very well prepared. in China, it already sells millions of smartphones without Google services because they’re banned there.

It already has its own App Store and is spoken about developing a smartphone operating system presumably for use outside China without Google’s involvement. This story is changing by the day so as you read this further event would have almost certainly taken place.

But what does all this mean for the Huawei smartphone in your hand? Well, at the moment Google Play and play protect updates will continue but after August 19th if nothing has changed, main Android software updates will stop and the software on your Huawei smartphone will remain as it is on that day.

Beyond that time and because the story is constantly evolving, it’s difficult to predict what will happen next to Huawei, its current smartphones and any future products.

Unless the situation is resolved quickly Huawei will become a very different company than it was even at this time last year.

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Re: Google Ban On Huawei : Implication On The Present And Future Huawei Business by judgementyard(m): 6:20am On May 25, 2019
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Re: Google Ban On Huawei : Implication On The Present And Future Huawei Business by Birdeyeview: 6:24am On May 25, 2019
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Re: Google Ban On Huawei : Implication On The Present And Future Huawei Business by yenereal(m): 6:57am On May 25, 2019
To the posters above, It's a good enlightenment as far as Technology world is concerned.
Re: Google Ban On Huawei : Implication On The Present And Future Huawei Business by internationalman(m): 7:09am On May 25, 2019
As long as the world leader thinks they pose threat to national security let the ban continue..

Please America don't ever let China come anywhere close to being the world power..
Re: Google Ban On Huawei : Implication On The Present And Future Huawei Business by barackodam: 8:52am On May 25, 2019
internationalman:
As long as the world leader thinks they pose threat to national security let the ban continue..

Please America don't ever let China come anywhere close to being the world power..



It's a pity everyone really thinks China is the enemy and US is the savior.

In case you forgot, china is the most populated country on earth, 1.3b people, they would very much cope without US. They would market their things and use. Then, there's the African market, including Asian market too. Since Buhari got there, he's been romancing China abi unA don forget too?


It's china here, they will develop their own App Store, OS, everything themselves and rest of the World would Patronise them. After all, only UK and US have complied thus far.


Make una wait till Russia sides with China

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Re: Google Ban On Huawei : Implication On The Present And Future Huawei Business by Cletus77(m): 9:37am On May 25, 2019
barackodam:




It's a pity everyone really thinks China is the enemy and US is the savior.

In case you forgot, china is the most populated country on earth, 1.3b people, they would very much cope without US. They would market their things and use. Then, there's the African market, including Asian market too. Since Buhari got there, he's been romancing China abi unA don forget too?


It's china here, they will develop their own App Store, OS, everything themselves and rest of the World would Patronise them. After all, only UK and US have complied thus far.


Make una wait till Russia sides with China

Am telling you bro...
The implications will only have a temporary effect because the Chinese will soon launch their own OS and what will become of Android if China's large market plus the African and Asian markets decides to patronize it?
Re: Google Ban On Huawei : Implication On The Present And Future Huawei Business by Techvenge: 9:51am On May 25, 2019
Cletus77:


Am telling you bro...
The implications will only have a temporary effect because the Chinese will soon launch their own OS and what will become of Android if China's large market plus the African and Asian markets decides to patronize it?

You may be right. But remember that Huawei already sell smartphones in China without Android OS because they are banned there.

The major issue now is how Huawei is going to beat Android at its own market in the west, Europe and Africa. Already they dominate the China market but that's simply not enough. Also, it will take serious miracle to convince developers to move their OS.

More like how do you convince people to leave Facebook and move to another platform, something Google tried with G+ and failed.

Or how do you tell people to abandon Google search and move to your search engine. You see the problem there?

This current move will hit them negatively and their hope of becoming the best selling smartphones in the world by 2020 has been pushed back to an unforeseeable future.

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Re: Google Ban On Huawei : Implication On The Present And Future Huawei Business by internationalman(m): 11:35am On May 25, 2019
barackodam:




It's a pity everyone really thinks China is the enemy and US is the savior.

In case you forgot, china is the most populated country on earth, 1.3b people, they would very much cope without US. They would market their things and use. Then, there's the African market, including Asian market too. Since Buhari got there, he's been romancing China abi unA don forget too?


It's china here, they will develop their own App Store, OS, everything themselves and rest of the World would Patronise them. After all, only UK and US have complied thus far.


Make una wait till Russia sides with China
Who the hell takes their products seriously if not the inferior continents of Africa and Asia
Re: Google Ban On Huawei : Implication On The Present And Future Huawei Business by tolexy007(m): 11:39am On May 25, 2019
Techvenge:


You may be right. But remember that Huawei already sell smartphones in China without Android OS because they are banned there.

The major issue now is how Huawei is going to beat Android at its own market in the west, Europe and Africa. Already they dominate the China market but that's simply not enough. Also, it will take serious miracle to convince developers to move their OS.

More like how do you convince people to leave Facebook and move to another platform, something Google tried with G+ and failed.

Or how do you tell people to abandon Google search and move to your search engine. You see the problem there?

This current move will hit them negatively and their hope of becoming the best selling smartphones in the world by 2020 has been pushed back to an unforeseeable future.


when China ban Facebook, twitter, Google etc for no reason all because dey want to promote their own product, y is it that nobody talks, China likes to cheat people that is what dey are good at.
Re: Google Ban On Huawei : Implication On The Present And Future Huawei Business by Harddiskng(m): 11:58am On May 25, 2019
Cletus77:


Am telling you bro...
The implications will only have a temporary effect because the Chinese will soon launch their own OS and what will become of Android if China's large market plus the African and Asian markets decides to patronize it?

I have been thinking about this, they have backed Huawei into a corner. What if they make their own OS and if turns out to be far better the Andriod OS. Bad market grin

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Re: Google Ban On Huawei : Implication On The Present And Future Huawei Business by traihit: 2:10pm On May 25, 2019
tolexy007:



when China ban Facebook, twitter, Google etc for no reason all because dey want to promote their own product, y is it that nobody talks, China likes to cheat people that is what dey are good at.

Cheating is what you call that. But how I wish Nigeria would do that because of its indegenous companies. Do you think unemployment will reach this level? US is not fighting China because just for trade war, it's a political war. The war for dominance. China has been calling the bluff of the US with its giant stride especially in countries outside Asia. The US which is currently rated as the most powerful nation on earth, cannot sit down and watch China takr over their legacies. So anything to cripple China must be done.
Re: Google Ban On Huawei : Implication On The Present And Future Huawei Business by RTSC: 2:13pm On May 25, 2019
barackodam:




It's a pity everyone really thinks China is the enemy and US is the savior.

In case you forgot, china is the most populated country on earth, 1.3b people, they would very much cope without US. They would market their things and use. Then, there's the African market, including Asian market too. Since Buhari got there, he's been romancing China abi unA don forget too?


It's china here, they will develop their own App Store, OS, everything themselves and rest of the World would Patronise them. After all, only UK and US have complied thus far.


Make una wait till Russia sides with China
Russia already sides with China since day one.

Fortunately, they are not an economic power so their support means nothing.
Re: Google Ban On Huawei : Implication On The Present And Future Huawei Business by Cletus77(m): 2:20pm On May 25, 2019
Techvenge:


You may be right. But remember that Huawei already sell smartphones in China without Android OS because they are banned there.

The major issue now is how Huawei is going to beat Android at its own market in the west, Europe and Africa. Already they dominate the China market but that's simply not enough. Also, it will take serious miracle to convince developers to move their OS.

More like how do you convince people to leave Facebook and move to another platform, something Google tried with G+ and failed.

Or how do you tell people to abandon Google search and move to your search engine. You see the problem there?

This current move will hit them negatively and their hope of becoming the best selling smartphones in the world by 2020 has been pushed back to an unforeseeable future.

It's simple. Most phone companies in Africa are Chinese. If it is regulated or if the new OS turns out to be better, most companies will switch to it and then leave Android grappling for smaller markets in Europe
Re: Google Ban On Huawei : Implication On The Present And Future Huawei Business by traihit: 2:24pm On May 25, 2019
Harddiskng:


I have been thinking about this, they have backed Huawei into a corner. What if they make their own OS and if turns out to be far better the Andriod OS. Bad market grin

China has been acting insecure for a long time and now, US has validated that insecurity. I see Africa benefitting from the clash of the two countries. Even if US should lessen its restrictions, China will still try to be much more self sufficient in their technology. And they'll try to import the same to other countries.
Re: Google Ban On Huawei : Implication On The Present And Future Huawei Business by seunfly: 3:31pm On May 25, 2019
barackodam:




It's a pity everyone really thinks China is the enemy and US is the savior.

In case you forgot, china is the most populated country on earth, 1.3b people, they would very much cope without US. They would market their things and use. Then, there's the African market, including Asian market too. Since Buhari got there, he's been romancing China abi unA don forget too?


It's china here, they will develop their own App Store, OS, everything themselves and rest of the World would Patronise them. After all, only UK and US have complied thus far.


Make una wait till Russia sides with China

They are zombies that falls for America's media, any intelligent person will know America is even the evil one.
Below are the list of America's war crime alone.
Can he list the evil China has done except the western fake tiananmen square saga, fake concentration camp etc.

Re: Google Ban On Huawei : Implication On The Present And Future Huawei Business by seunfly: 3:43pm On May 25, 2019
RTSC:

Russia already sides with China since day one.

Fortunately, they are not an economic power so their support means nothing.

Russia is not technological power??
I see alot of ignorant people here, Russia is as technologically developed as her western counterpact the difference is the world order. Russia does not belong to the club of present world order and the financial system therefore they are excluded, because if they allow Russia to rise, she will chellenge the order and it will lead to great conflict. The same thing is what America is trying to do to China right now. You think only Google, Facebook YouTube exist in that form? There are countless others but many don't want to push it because it is America's sphere and no nation wants to be seen competing with America which is why countries like Russia, China and Co are demonized by American media because they are doing it. People really don't know international politics.
When America is going after Iran, the ignorant people will be shouting Iran is a terrorist nation forgetting that 95% of terrorist attack world wide are perpetuated by CIA, MOSSAD and WAHABIST and guess what they are friends but Iran technological rise is making those 3 rings of friends unconfortable therefore they had to kill it.
If Nigeria tries to rise above what they expected of us, we will also face the same music.

Below is the list of top ten stem graduates in the world, those are the people that determines world technology, find out Russia's position.

I implore people to get interested in international politic, how world economy works in relation with the present world order and them they will realized that they have been brain washed severely be CNN and Co they are watching.

Re: Google Ban On Huawei : Implication On The Present And Future Huawei Business by LordSkinnie(m): 4:31pm On May 25, 2019
America is just pained. They don't want the Chinese products to take over their markets while many of their products are banned over there. Huawei is just the unfortunate scapegoat in the battle between the Chinese government and the US government.
Re: Google Ban On Huawei : Implication On The Present And Future Huawei Business by femarse: 4:40pm On May 25, 2019
Everyone keep making noise of them building their own OS and what if it was better ?? like that was the first time someone will try to build an OS , it doesn't work like that , Samsung try too with tizen OS, it failed , LG tried with WEBOS , it failed , Firefox also develop their OS which is similar to this Chromebook and also failed woefully ,Microsoft nko ? with all the money ? they failed terribly with Nokia with their window mobile OS

contrary to what u think about OS , it's not about building OS, there is what makes Google and IOS succeed in that space and I tell u for another company to enter that frame , they will spend their blood ...even u will not ditch your Gmail , WhatsApp , Facebook , Twitter for anything from Huawei , Amazon knows this ,they are using Android but it's the open source version and u can not have the regular playstore , Gmail and Co on it and with that self ,they are still not popular
u get now ? it's not about building OS it's about convincing the major developer to develop app for you , Microsoft failed with it , Amazon failed with it , Firefox failed , Samsung failed , LG failed , u need serious money to surpass match either Google or IOS in the mobile OS space
Re: Google Ban On Huawei : Implication On The Present And Future Huawei Business by Lstar4real(m): 5:03pm On May 25, 2019
femarse:
Everyone keep making noise of them building their own OS and what if it was better ?? like that was the first time someone will try to build an OS , it doesn't work like that , Samsung try too with tizen OS, it failed , LG tried with WEBOS , it failed , Firefox also develop their OS which is similar to this Chromebook and also failed woefully ,Microsoft nko ? with all the money ? they failed terribly with Nokia with their window mobile OS

contrary to what u think about OS , it's not about building OS, there is what makes Google and IOS succeed in that space and I tell u for another company to enter that frame , they will spend their blood ...even u will not ditch your Gmail , WhatsApp , Facebook , Twitter for anything from Huawei , Amazon knows this ,they are using Android but it's the open source version and u can not have the regular playstore , Gmail and Co on it and with that self ,they are still not popular
u get now ? it's not about building OS it's about convincing the major developer to develop app for you , Microsoft failed with it , Amazon failed with it , Firefox failed , Samsung failed , LG failed , u need serious money to surpass match either Google or IOS in the mobile OS space

It's simple answer ...Just compare China population with Korea ..China love their own ...Korea is USA ally they been control by USA For decades or century now , Their OS won't work out...if u ask me I will even tell u that Samsung is also looking for a way Outta Google ...and again how many people can afford Samsung phones and LG ( very pricey ) when they released their OS .....if not for China most of us we not have smartphones Today ....I will always support them ( China ) because they make life easier for us in Africa as a whole ....China is not push over .,..its Trade war ...Huawei is the biggest company in China they Just using it as bait to get back at China....They want to control China but it's not possible .......USA don't want any one to breath freely because of Power !!!
Re: Google Ban On Huawei : Implication On The Present And Future Huawei Business by seunfly: 5:15pm On May 25, 2019
femarse:
Everyone keep making noise of them building their own OS and what if it was better ?? like that was the first time someone will try to build an OS , it doesn't work like that , Samsung try too with tizen OS, it failed , LG tried with WEBOS , it failed , Firefox also develop their OS which is similar to this Chromebook and also failed woefully ,Microsoft nko ? with all the money ? they failed terribly with Nokia with their window mobile OS[/b][b]

contrary to what u think about OS , it's not about building OS, there is what makes Google and IOS succeed in that space and I tell u for another company to enter that frame , they will spend their blood ...even u will not ditch your Gmail , WhatsApp , Facebook , Twitter for anything from Huawei , Amazon knows this ,they are using Android but it's the open source version and u can not have the regular playstore , Gmail and Co on it and with that self ,they are still not popular
u get now ? it's not about building OS it's about convincing the major developer to develop app for you , Microsoft failed with it , Amazon failed with it , Firefox failed , Samsung failed , LG failed , u need serious money to surpass match either Google or IOS in the mobile OS space

@bolded, You are right but the situation is different. The situation here is that the whole of China are back to corner and Chinese market alone is large enough to sustain there own OS. If the nationalistic sentiments they are showing is real, It means majority will rally round their own OS no matter how poor it is and Chinese government has placed restriction on investment on real estate while she granted 2years tax break for mobile phone makers, mobile software developers and mobile apps developers. We all know the new OS will not be acceptable outside China for the next 2 years but Chinese market is large enough to sustain it and Chinese government is making every moves to encourage Chinese software designers to focus on mobile apps development and innovation.

Many people expected China to ban Apple as a response but China understand better than Americans that all Apple supply chains are in China and banning apple is like shooting themself in the foot, apple alone employed 4.5million Chinese. It has already been predicted that many American suppliers depends on Huawei to the tune of $70 billion last year alone and they are already going bankrupt due to this issue, this is why China rather announced the 2years tax break for Huawei and Co and pouring of several billion dollars to encourage software development and mobile apps development.

You also need to understand that ecosystem already existed in China, they don't use Google suite in China, they use Baidu, tencent and other in China and they only needs to internationalized it. Check Baidu earth equivalent to Google earth, it was written in China and no English version and it is reported to be more accurate than Google earth in China but not optimized for outside China. All they needs to do is optimized it for outside China and boom you have Chinese Google earth.
Re: Google Ban On Huawei : Implication On The Present And Future Huawei Business by RTSC: 5:23pm On May 25, 2019
seunfly:


Russia is not technological power??
I see alot of ignorant people here, Russia is as technologically developed as her western counterpact the difference is the world order. Russia does not belong to the club of present world order and the financial system therefore they are excluded, because if they allow Russia to rise, she will chellenge the order and it will lead to great conflict. The same thing is what America is trying to do to China right now. You think only Google, Facebook YouTube exist in that form? There are countless others but many don't want to push it because it is America's sphere and no nation wants to be seen competing with America which is why countries like Russia, China and Co are demonized by American media because they are doing it. People really don't know international politics.
When America is going after Iran, the ignorant people will be shouting Iran is a terrorist nation forgetting that 95% of terrorist attack world wide are perpetuated by CIA, MOSSAD and WAHABIST and guess what they are friends but Iran technological rise is making those 3 rings of friends unconfortable therefore they had to kill it.
If Nigeria tries to rise above what they expected of us, we will also face the same music.

Below is the list of top ten stem graduates in the world, those are the people that determines world technology, find out Russia's position.

I implore people to get interested in international politic, how world economy works in relation with the present world order and them they will realized that they have been brain washed severely be CNN and Co they are watching.
I said economic power.

Can you give me how Russia can help China here?
Which Russian phone brand do you know?

China is even more advanced than Russia and they are suffering it.
Re: Google Ban On Huawei : Implication On The Present And Future Huawei Business by seunfly: 6:00pm On May 25, 2019
RTSC:

I said economic power.

Can you give me how Russia can help China here?
Which Russian phone brand do you know?

China is even more advanced than Russia and they are suffering it.

Sorry I got you wrong in economic stuff.

On the issues of Phone brand, you only create things if there is market for it, Russia has been blocked from the international economic circle so the power that be will not allow her technology to break through even if it is phone brands. Do u know Russian automaker first made electric self driving car before Elon Musk, the company shot down in 2015 because of same world order, it came from where nobody wanted. Do u know Yandex Russia's equalivalent of Google has launched self driving cars since 2017, nobody reported or supported it because of same issue, do you know kalashinakove - CV1 performed better than Tesla, u won't hear it, lastly do u know Russian telecom is part of 5 campanies with 5G patents?


On your last statement, I think the chat I posted illustrated that, in terms of latest technological advancement by stem graduates, China is far ahead of others and India, United state, Russian respectively. The problem of India is that they are in diaspora and if you check all the top CEO in the world they are Indians from Microsoft to Google even our own Dangote is full of Indians. If they can be CEO, do you know how many of them in R & Ds in those top organization.

Lastly the problems they don't want from Russia is what they are facing from China and that is the reasons for China's persecution.
Re: Google Ban On Huawei : Implication On The Present And Future Huawei Business by barackodam: 6:09pm On May 25, 2019
RTSC:

Russia already sides with China since day one.

Fortunately, they are not an economic power so their support means nothing.


I won't think so. Russia and US aren't exactly friends, so, Russia can actually support China to topple US. What am I saying sef? cheesy


Russia can and should support China by making them their priority instead of china. So they will contribute to China's economy directly.


It's all supposition anyway.
Re: Google Ban On Huawei : Implication On The Present And Future Huawei Business by barackodam: 6:15pm On May 25, 2019
internationalman:

Who the hell takes their products seriously if not the inferior continents of Africa and Asia


How did they then become second best selling smartphone producer if only China patronise them?
Re: Google Ban On Huawei : Implication On The Present And Future Huawei Business by barackodam: 6:30pm On May 25, 2019
femarse:
Everyone keep making noise of them building their own OS and what if it was better ?? like that was the first time someone will try to build an OS , it doesn't work like that , Samsung try too with tizen OS, it failed , LG tried with WEBOS , it failed , Firefox also develop their OS which is similar to this Chromebook and also failed woefully ,Microsoft nko ? with all the money ? they failed terribly with Nokia with their window mobile OS

contrary to what u think about OS , it's not about building OS, there is what makes Google and IOS succeed in that space and I tell u for another company to enter that frame , they will spend their blood ...even u will not ditch your Gmail , WhatsApp , Facebook , Twitter for anything from Huawei , Amazon knows this ,they are using Android but it's the open source version and u can not have the regular playstore , Gmail and Co on it and with that self ,they are still not popular
u get now ? it's not about building OS it's about convincing the major developer to develop app for you , Microsoft failed with it , Amazon failed with it , Firefox failed , Samsung failed , LG failed , u need serious money to surpass match either Google or IOS in the mobile OS space


You have a very strong point. But all these changes you made, none had the direct backing of the Chinese population.

LG doesn't have a market in Africa. I'm not sure they do in Asia too. Samsung has a market in Africa, but you can't compare it to the Chinese market.

Like someone said, if not for China, a lot of people won't be using android by now. So, they have a very large market here in Africa, and Asia too. Add that to the China population. You get self sustenance.

A lot of apps on play store are paid. They can make those apps free on their market for a start, paying for them themselves, just to increase patronage. Before you know it, they are back at near the top
Re: Google Ban On Huawei : Implication On The Present And Future Huawei Business by mvem(m): 10:02am On May 27, 2019
internationalman:

Who the hell takes their products seriously if not the inferior continents of Africa and Asia
are you serious... Huawei phones are ranked as the best mobile phones in the world and the only company that have gone far with 5G network which US and Europe haven't come close. ..and you know 5G is the future of telecommunication and IT, like IoT which is only workable with 5G

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