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Re: LAWMA Flags Off ‘Lagos At 4 A.M’ Initiative To Tackle Improper Waste Disposal by McDoe(m): 4:37am On Jun 05, 2019
Good development. But 4am is too late as it is already dawn.
During Amaechi's time in Rivers State, the trucks were coming to the streets and dumpsites between 10pm and 12 midnight to collect wastes from residents. Before dawn, everywhere looked clean, tidy and without waste. Such timing should be considered in Lagos for good and undisturbed job.
Eko Sanwo oo
Re: LAWMA Flags Off ‘Lagos At 4 A.M’ Initiative To Tackle Improper Waste Disposal by 9jaRealist: 5:12am On Jun 05, 2019
deomelo:

Actually, it was the other way around, Ambode sabotaged Lagos state, Lagosians and LAWMAN because LAWMA was the best and the most efficient, well organized and advanced waste management agency in Nigeria and West Africa in general.

LAWMA kept refuse/garbage in check, they engaged and regulated PSPs and even created tens of thousands of jobs from the state agency level to the PSP level, they built multi-billion Naira waste management infrastructures from massive equipment to first class loading stations, quality management and training, recycling programs and so on.

Bottom line, Lagos state through LAWMA kept refuse/waste in check, LAWMA folks in the orange uniform were all over the place all day cleaning and sweeping.


LAWMA was a well-oiled organization, a massive crown jewel and pride of Lagos state government and Lagosians, but Ambode with his ego, destructive behaviour and petty appetite to destroy his predecessor's legacies and see me too syndrome destroyed LAWMA and the states massive and multi-billion Naira waste management agency and tens of thousands of jobs in favour of a foreign, unknown and incompetent company with zero money to operate with.

The imported company did not invest 1 kobo, they did not pay for 1 single wheelbarrow, Ambode gave them billions in bonds to operate with, our money and the money he should have invested in LAWMA and Lagosians. At the end of the day, the imported company couldn't do the job because they didn't know the terrain, they didn't have waste management skills and expertise and the result was Lagos buried under trash.

That fiasco exposed Ambode's incompetence, shortsightedness, unpatriotic attitude and disregard for established authority, jobs and Lagosians in general.


I'd understand if LAWMA was not working or if Lagos was buried under trash, but that was not the case under LAWMA. LAWMA was a superb agency and even the PSPs you tried to ridicule were tens of thousands of Lagosians with legal and well-deserved jobs and waste management value chain enterprise that Anode should have preserved because it was a perfect balance and ecosystem between LAWMA as waste management and regulating agency and the private job-creating sector.

Ambode sabotaged Lagosians, not the other way around.

Sanwo Olu and his team did their homework, they've identified critical issues and areas to address and of course, they've mapped out strategies hence the daily positive moves they've been making since inauguration

I really should have stopped reading at your statement that Visionscape doesn’t have “waste management skills and expertise”... grin
Bros, basic research would have spared you from that singular embarrassment re ignorance of a well-established multinational operator.

Nonetheless, interesting that the same House of Assembly that voted unanimously for the new state environmental laws pursuant to which the role of LAWMA was changed from a regulator/operator (the same duality that has destroyed entities like the NNPC) to solely that of a regulator (which new law by its provisions took almost a year to take effect while the state government went through a bid process for, and thereafter vetted, potential operators), following marching orders from Bourdillon reinstated the PSPs as domestic waste collectors without bothering to repeal their own law.

Meanwhile, your pedantic posts suffers from the same confusion that many ill-informed commentators make on this topic. The PSPs were NEVER abolished or precluded from the waste management process! Instead they were reclassified as WCPs after a recertification process by LAWMA (under its proper role as regulator) that involve an audit of their equipment, processes and capacity (including manpower), and apart from being granted the exclusive rights to manage commercial waste were additionally allowed to manage household waste in areas not served by Visionscape.

Frankly, it would be funny if it was not tragic to see folks regard a process that involves simply dumping waste in a rudimentary (actually ancient) dumpsite located in the middle of a populated neighborhood (and which already previously combusted) as some sort of modern waste management “infrastructure”. In fact, even the LAWMA loading station (NOT stations) at Simpson Street was not even automated, until Visionscape came in and upgraded/modernized the facility (in addition to developing 2 other loading stations and a new world-class modern landfill - not just a dumpsite - at Epe).

Stripped of all turenchi, here’s a succinct analogy that most people would grasp - a one room abode may work well for a single dude but when he gets married and has several kids that same single room will not be quite so workable. Ultimately, the political apparatchiks and carpetbaggers who SABOTAGED the Cleaner Lagos Initiative will come to the realization that the present rudimentary system of waste collection (calling it management is a misnomer) is ill-suited to the needs of an ever-expanding megapolis. Hopefully, that would happen before Olusosun (which is reportedly contaminating ground water) really blows up with tragic and fatal consequences.

PS: BTW, most (if not all) of the LAWMA staff were absorbed by Visionscape, probably with better conditions of employment.
Re: LAWMA Flags Off ‘Lagos At 4 A.M’ Initiative To Tackle Improper Waste Disposal by seguno2: 5:52am On Jun 05, 2019
deomelo:
Typical meaningless and reetarded ipob nonsense.

In fact, I'd love to see the governor himself collecting trash, it's called leading by example, but of course, this concept is way way above your village square level hence the leaders in Lagos making positive moves every day since inauguration while the lazy and incompetent ones in your village are still crying and lamenting over toilet and handover note instead of working

Learn to keep your ignorance to yourself instead of trying to pollute others with your stench. Understand

CONSTITUTION OF THE
FEDERAL REPUBLIC OF NIGERIA
1999

Fourth Schedule
Functions of a Local Government Council

1. The main functions of a local government council are as follows:

(a) the consideration and the making of recommendations to a State commission on economic planning or any similar body on -
(i) the economic development of the State, particularly in so far as the areas of authority of the council and of the State are affected, and
(ii) proposals made by the said commission or body;
(b) collection of rates, radio and television licences;
(c) establishment and maintenance of cemeteries, burial grounds and homes for the destitute or infirm;
(d) licensing of bicycles, trucks (other than mechanically propelled trucks), canoes, wheel barrows and carts;
(e) establishment, maintenance and regulation of slaughter houses, slaughter slabs, markets, motor parks and public conveniences;
(f) construction and maintenance of roads, streets, street lightings, drains and other public highways, parks, gardens, open spaces, or such public facilities as may be prescribed from time to time by the House of Assembly of a State;
(g) naming of roads and streets and numbering of houses;
(h) provision and maintenance of public conveniences, sewage and refuse disposal;
(i) registration of all births, deaths and marriages;

(j) assessment of privately owned houses or tenements for the purpose of levying such rates as may be prescribed by the House of Assembly of a State; and

(k) control and regulation of -

(i) out-door advertising and hoarding,
(ii) movement and keeping of pets of all description,
(iii) shops and kiosks,
(iv) restaurants, bakeries and other places for sale of food to the public,
(v) laundries, and
(vi) licensing, regulation and control of the sale of liquor.

2. The functions of a local government council shall include participation of such council in the Government of a State as respects the following matters -

the provision and maintenance of primary, adult and vocational education;
(b) the development of agriculture and natural resources, other than the exploitation of materials
(c) the provision and maintenance of health services; and
(d) such other functions as may be conferred on a local government council by the House of Assembly of the State.


Source: http://www.waado.org/nigerdelta/documents/ConstitutionalMatters/1999Constitution/FourthSchedule.html
Re: LAWMA Flags Off ‘Lagos At 4 A.M’ Initiative To Tackle Improper Waste Disposal by Azeez532(m): 6:54am On Jun 05, 2019
KanuSE:


Can you please shed light on how Ambode failed in this regard?

Do you live in lag at all?
Re: LAWMA Flags Off ‘Lagos At 4 A.M’ Initiative To Tackle Improper Waste Disposal by mascot87(m): 7:05am On Jun 05, 2019
hakm5:


What is your problem? May be I can be of help. Contact me

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Re: LAWMA Flags Off ‘Lagos At 4 A.M’ Initiative To Tackle Improper Waste Disposal by askakim(m): 7:24am On Jun 05, 2019
Lagos is so dirty this days even the island Ajah,Lekki etc not to talk of mainland oshodi, Apapa, ketu, if something isn't done about environmental sanitation on Saturday back, we might end up with breathing space for diseases..
Re: LAWMA Flags Off ‘Lagos At 4 A.M’ Initiative To Tackle Improper Waste Disposal by COMPAQ(m): 7:27am On Jun 05, 2019
My issue is that why do government agencies and parastatals only respond to a new government? Why can they do their work with passion, dilligence and creativity regardless of who the governor is.

If lagos has been this dirty and the head of lawma is just putting his brain to work because there is anew governor in town then that person doesn't deserve to head lawma.
Re: LAWMA Flags Off ‘Lagos At 4 A.M’ Initiative To Tackle Improper Waste Disposal by loomer: 7:57am On Jun 05, 2019
otokx:


When PH was Port Harcourt Refuse was cleared from 11pm till 4am.

11pm to 4am, people just dey try to sleep and will probably try to go back to work the next day. Or the trucks no dey make noise?
Re: LAWMA Flags Off ‘Lagos At 4 A.M’ Initiative To Tackle Improper Waste Disposal by 9jaRealist: 8:01am On Jun 05, 2019
deomelo:

The imported company did not invest 1 kobo, they did not pay for 1 single wheelbarrow, Ambode gave them billions in bonds to operate with, our money and the money he should have invested in LAWMA and Lagosians. At the end of the day, the imported company couldn't do the job because they didn't know the terrain, they didn't have waste management skills and expertise and the result was Lagos buried under trash.

And just for the record, the highlighted is just blatantly incorrect... undecided

Visionscape floated its own corporate bonds on the FMDQ for N27 billion with 17.5 fixed-rate coupon and a 5-year tenure (due 2022), as the first tranche of its N50 billion bond issuance. The Lagos State government did NOT contribute a single kobo to Visionscape’s financing! What the LASG provided was a subnational guarantee, which is the same sort of guarantee it would have to provide for any major PPP project (such as the proposed Fourth Mainland Bridge, the Lekki Airport, and for the financing of rolling stock for the Blue Line by Alstom of France).
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Re: LAWMA Flags Off ‘Lagos At 4 A.M’ Initiative To Tackle Improper Waste Disposal by wristbangle: 8:01am On Jun 05, 2019
KanuSE:


Can you please shed light on how Ambode failed in this regard?

What kind of question is this? I don't think you reside in Lagos
Re: LAWMA Flags Off ‘Lagos At 4 A.M’ Initiative To Tackle Improper Waste Disposal by 9jaRealist: 8:09am On Jun 05, 2019
askakim:
Lagos is so dirty this days even the island Ajah,Lekki etc not to talk of mainland oshodi, Apapa, ketu, if something isn't done about environmental sanitation on Saturday back, we might end up with breathing space for diseases..

But of course. Regardless of who is at the seat of power in Alausa (or indeed Bourdillon)...
We cannot adequately clean this megapolis with wheelbarrows and a motley assemblage of 1-truck/2-truck PSPs.
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Re: LAWMA Flags Off ‘Lagos At 4 A.M’ Initiative To Tackle Improper Waste Disposal by 9jaRealist: 8:13am On Jun 05, 2019
COMPAQ:
My issue is that why do government agencies and parastatals only respond to a new government? Why can they do their work with passion, dilligence and creativity regardless of who the governor is.

If lagos has been this dirty and the head of lawma is just putting his brain to work because there is anew governor in town then that person doesn't deserve to head lawma.

It’s akin to getting a new coach in football... cheesy
Initially everyone raises their game, but without actual systemic/institutional reforms it peters out after a while.

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Re: LAWMA Flags Off ‘Lagos At 4 A.M’ Initiative To Tackle Improper Waste Disposal by hermesprogidy(m): 8:21am On Jun 05, 2019
They also need CTV cameras to catch and discipline irresponsible motorists and individuals who specialise in dumping waste by the roadside early in the morning. I was forced to confront a guy, who parked his Camry, opened his trunk, took out a bin liner filled with trash and dumped it on the roadside. Some people shouldn't be allowed to live among people. So disgusting.

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Re: LAWMA Flags Off ‘Lagos At 4 A.M’ Initiative To Tackle Improper Waste Disposal by Scatterscatter(m): 8:36am On Jun 05, 2019
seguno2:


.......governor doing LGA work, is that one a governor

You know He is supposed to do federal govt work undecided
Re: LAWMA Flags Off ‘Lagos At 4 A.M’ Initiative To Tackle Improper Waste Disposal by Raalsalghul: 8:58am On Jun 05, 2019
Babanlagenius:
And in ehn. Dirty wan kill person before. No be small thing.

Sanwo-Olu my man.


Improper waste management was a low point of Ambode's tenure.
Re: LAWMA Flags Off ‘Lagos At 4 A.M’ Initiative To Tackle Improper Waste Disposal by banio: 10:30am On Jun 05, 2019
Remembered when I just finished secondary and was huzzling to work in a waste disposal company for about #8K.

That year #8K be like #80K now.

But now I just can't imagine working for less than #1.5milano.


Life ?
Re: LAWMA Flags Off ‘Lagos At 4 A.M’ Initiative To Tackle Improper Waste Disposal by Babanlagenius: 10:58am On Jun 05, 2019
Raalsalghul:

Improper waste management was a low point of Ambode's tenure.

True
Re: LAWMA Flags Off ‘Lagos At 4 A.M’ Initiative To Tackle Improper Waste Disposal by seguno2: 11:14am On Jun 05, 2019
Scatterscatter:

You know He is supposed to do federal govt work undecided

If you don’t know what a governor’s job description is, get a copy of the 1999 constitution, as amended, to cure your ignorance. Will you thank me later
Re: LAWMA Flags Off ‘Lagos At 4 A.M’ Initiative To Tackle Improper Waste Disposal by deomelo: 11:25am On Jun 05, 2019
seguno2:


Learn to keep your ignorance to yourself instead of trying to pollute others with your stench. Understand



What is your ignorant and unintelligent rubbish got to do with LAWMA people doing and what the people of Lagos charged them to do?

Stop trolling and find something better to do with your life.
Re: LAWMA Flags Off ‘Lagos At 4 A.M’ Initiative To Tackle Improper Waste Disposal by deomelo: 11:54am On Jun 05, 2019
9jaRealist:


I really should have stopped reading at your statement that Visionscape doesn’t have “waste management skills and expertise”... grin
Bros, basic research would have spared you from that singular embarrassment re ignorance of a well-established multinational operator.

Nonetheless, interesting that the same House of Assembly that voted unanimously for the new state environmental laws pursuant to which the role of LAWMA was changed from a regulator/operator (the same duality that has destroyed entities like the NNPC) to solely that of a regulator (which new law by its provisions took almost a year to take effect while the state government went through a bid process for, and thereafter vetted, potential operators), following marching orders from Bourdillon reinstated the PSPs as domestic waste collectors without bothering to repeal their own law.

Meanwhile, your pedantic posts suffers from the same confusion that many ill-informed commentators make on this topic. The PSPs were NEVER abolished or precluded from the waste management process! Instead they were reclassified as WCPs after a recertification process by LAWMA (under its proper role as regulator) that involve an audit of their equipment, processes and capacity (including manpower), and apart from being granted the exclusive rights to manage commercial waste were additionally allowed to manage household waste in areas not served by Visionscape.

Frankly, it would be funny if it was not tragic to see folks regard a process that involves simply dumping waste in a rudimentary (actually ancient) dumpsite located in the middle of a populated neighborhood (and which already previously combusted) as some sort of modern waste management “infrastructure”. In fact, even the LAWMA loading station (NOT stations) at Simpson Street was not even automated, until Visionscape came in and upgraded/modernized the facility (in addition to developing 2 other loading stations and a new world-class modern landfill - not just a dumpsite - at Epe).

Stripped of all turenchi, here’s a succinct analogy that most people would grasp - a one room abode may work well for a single dude but when he gets married and has several kids that same single room will not be quite so workable. Ultimately, the political apparatchiks and carpetbaggers who SABOTAGED the Cleaner Lagos Initiative will come to the realization that the present rudimentary system of waste collection (calling it management is a misnomer) is ill-suited to the needs of an ever-expanding megapolis. Hopefully, that would happen before Olusosun (which is reportedly contaminating ground water) really blows up with tragic and fatal consequences.

PS: BTW, most (if not all) of the LAWMA staff were absorbed by Visionscape, probably with better conditions of employment.



1. When Lagos state engaged Visionscape to manage waste disposal duties in Lagos state, Visionscape did not show up with 1 single wheelbarrow to do the job, unlike LAWMA, an established waste management outfit with massive infrastructure with trillion Naira waste management assets already on the ground and performing wonders. It's like going to school without paper and pencil to work with.

2. Visionscape took out a loan/bond to buy equipment and fund their operations with the LASG guaranteeing the loan.

Where is the sense and wisdom in destroying your own high performing agency with tools and equipment on the ground in favour of a foreign entity with zero waste management experience or 1 kobo to invest?

3. It was irresponsible to hang that bond/loan on the necks of Lagosians via loan guarantees for a private and for-profit business with zero collateral or assets. Lagos state IGR was their assets and in case of failure, Lagos state government must come up with the funds as the guarantor.


4. If you are going to assert that Visionscape is an established waste experience company with waste management experience, you should have listed their track record and whatever waste management successes in other countries or any location under the sun.

5. Visionscape was a scam vehicle put together by scammers to make money, period.

6. 'If it ain't broke, don't fix it. LAWMA was doing a great job, they should have left LAWMA and I even wonder why Ambode did not take out loan/bonds on behalf of LAWMA to grow LAWMA, create more jobs for Lagosians instead of importing a foreign entity with no money, not tools and equipment to work with, even no waste management track record.
Re: LAWMA Flags Off ‘Lagos At 4 A.M’ Initiative To Tackle Improper Waste Disposal by deomelo: 11:58am On Jun 05, 2019
On the board of Visionscape is a Nigerian Niyi Makanjuola a founding director of Caverton Offshore Support Group, information from the company website shows.

http://www.businessdayonline.com/inside-lagosvisionscape-deal-costs-taxpayers-n85bn/


Follow the trail, these scammers always have a powerful Nigerian with ties to the powers that be to complete the scam.
Re: LAWMA Flags Off ‘Lagos At 4 A.M’ Initiative To Tackle Improper Waste Disposal by deomelo: 12:01pm On Jun 05, 2019
The Visionscape group projected in the information memorandum that about N16.3 billion of the bond proceeds will be used to acquire fleet for the transfer loading stations, strategic acquisitions and related infrastructure, expected by September 30, 2017.
Containers and operational equipment is to cost N3.13 billion, and waste facilities upgrade N2.58 billion, while working capital would gulp N2.5 billion.

Also embedded in the Information Memorandum documents is a disclosure that the Visionscape SPV is expected to incur management fees of N406.2 million for 2017, which moves up 101 percent to N820 million in 2018, while projecting an operating loss of N508.4 million for 2017.


LAWMA was doing great, why import foreign scammers and even give them money to destroy LAWMA and dirty up Lagos in the process?

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Re: LAWMA Flags Off ‘Lagos At 4 A.M’ Initiative To Tackle Improper Waste Disposal by deomelo: 12:03pm On Jun 05, 2019
According to Oladipo Egbeyemi, the chairman of Association of Waste Managers of Nigeria, 80 percent of their work was conceded to a foreign company (Visionscape) risking their N6bn investment and the livelihood of over 35,000 employees.


http://www.businessdayonline.com/inside-lagosvisionscape-deal-costs-taxpayers-n85bn/

And at the end of the day, Ambode and Visionscape because the whole operation was a money making scam
Re: LAWMA Flags Off ‘Lagos At 4 A.M’ Initiative To Tackle Improper Waste Disposal by Scatterscatter(m): 12:12pm On Jun 05, 2019
seguno2:


If you don’t know what a governor’s job description is, get a copy of the 1999 constitution, as amended, to cure your ignorance. Will you thank me later

So you mean the state government should ignore waste management in a situation where by the local government isn't properly mobilized. You will make a very terrible administrator and leader
Re: LAWMA Flags Off ‘Lagos At 4 A.M’ Initiative To Tackle Improper Waste Disposal by deomelo: 12:55pm On Jun 05, 2019
Scatterscatter:


So you mean the state government should ignore waste management in a situation where by the local government isn't properly mobilized. You will make a very terrible administrator and leader


With such elementary and puerile mentality, I just hope and pray that people like him don't get any kind of opportunity to serve in any public or civil service capacity.
Re: LAWMA Flags Off ‘Lagos At 4 A.M’ Initiative To Tackle Improper Waste Disposal by deomelo: 12:58pm On Jun 05, 2019
“Lagos has gotten progressively less transparent today, they don’t even bother,” said Tunde Leye, Consulting Partner at SBM Intelligence.
“Under the previous Governor Fashola for example, even though the budget was not detailed, you could find procurement information on the LASG website (that’s how we knew how much he spent on the website or boreholes for example).

We know exactly the cost of building the Lekki Ikoyi Bridge. Compare to Ambode where we do not know how much he spent to build the Ajah flyover or anything else. Civil society has tried to invoke the freedom of information (FOI) act repeatedly but they have either been ignored or blown off. Lagos is very opaque.


http://www.businessdayonline.com/inside-lagosvisionscape-deal-costs-taxpayers-n85bn/
Re: LAWMA Flags Off ‘Lagos At 4 A.M’ Initiative To Tackle Improper Waste Disposal by mascot87(m): 5:08pm On Jun 05, 2019
hakm5:


What is your problem? May be I can be of help. Contact me

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