bluke:
still owing salaries
yet they'll be paid travel allowance, hotel allowance feeding allowance esta code

the masses are .............................................

Flashyoil1:
Osun state government want to send the Local Government Chairmen to Dubai for 10days so that they want them to be exposed and groomed on international best practice on how to run a local government

They want to go to Dubai to learn how to operate local government �����‍♂️��‍♂️��‍♂️

source https://thickmatch.com/osun-state-send-councils-chairmen-dubai-learn-intl-practice/

teadrake:
Who do we offend in this country

OkpaNsukkaisBae:



We copied our system of government(presidential system) which is a 3 tier government from USA.
While the Saudi operates an absolute monarchy.
Do you even know what is an absolute monarchy?

For you to compare the American system of government to Saudi Arabia and China as a system Nigeria should copy means you have to go back to secondary school, request for a refund of tuition fees from your government(talking about government as an academic field of study here) teacher.

You're the one to open your brain and think beyond your horizon.

Ayoefa:


Hey Dummy,

We have only copied part of the US System NOT the whole thing. Under the US system, the Speaker of the House is the number 3 in line while in the Nigerian system the Senate President is number 3. In the US Local govts are independent of the State and Federal Govt that is not the case in Nigeria. More importantly, we do not use the Electoral College system as is the case in the US. If our system were in place in the US, Trump won’t be the President after the least Election. That is a BIG/HUGE distinction.
Hillary Clinton would have been declared the winner with 3illion more votes than Trump.
So olodos like you saying that everything has to be like in the US needs to go back to school and learn the basics about the US system and governance in general.
Your ignorance/bias/diatribe is not so much about the fact that we are trying to copy from UAE (NOT SAUDI ARABIA as you insinuated) but the fact that UAE is a Muslim country. Semi educated, brainwashed, retarded zombies from the SadEast always goes into convulsion whenever anything about Islam or Muslim is mentioned. Going to see how an effective local govt is ran in Dubai does not translate into trying to change the system of govt but simply trying to learn how effective governance is achieved. This can be done under the Federal system, Parliamentary system or even Royal traditional system. Fear of Islam and Muslims will be the end of you and your fellow IPOB monkeys. Better learn to live with the Muslims or move to Congo or Angola.

OkpaNsukkaisBae:




First things first... You're the dummy here.
There's a demarcation line between a system of government and a nation's Constitution that guides and controls such systems. We have different systems of government.. Military, Unitary, Confederal, parliamentary, presidential amongst others.

I told you we copied the presidential system of government from United States of America, not the American constitution. It's the Constitution of a State that state/determines who's to succeed who in case of death, resignation or impeachment. Not a presidential system of government or any other system of government.

Secondly, the difference between United State's local government system and that of Nigeria is the same difference between Real Madrid Fc & Kano Pillars. That is why I said I like the idea, sending them abroad, made mention of how Peter the Great toured Western Europe in a bid to modernize/reform Russian administrative institutions however, Saudi Arabia ain't the best available option.

Thirdly, United State's electoral college is derived from the United State's Constitution. Not from any system of government same as the first point.
So olodos like you that cannot differentiate between a constitution and a system of government can still go back and demand for tuition fees from his/her secondary school government teacher. E never late.
Talking about religious bigotry,, you're DEAD WRONG cox I don't do religion in any form. Whether Xtian it, Islam, Confusciuanism, Buddhism amongst others. I don't give a flying fvck about their imaginary self invented skydaddy.

Ps = A presidential system of government refers to a system of government where there's an elected president with a fixed tenure and a clear separation of powers between and among the three organs of government. It is not and can never be a CONSTITUTION!!!.

Ayoefa:


I'm more than convinced that you graduated or attended one of those 4th grade high schools disguised as a "university" in Nigeria.
What a complete slowpoke you are. THE US SYSTEM OF GOVERNMENT IS DERIVED FROM THE US CONSTITUTION. IT IS THE US CONSTITUTION THAT STIPULATES WHAT AND HOW THE SYSTEM OF GOVERNMENT WILL WORK.
What a waste of time arguing with a num sckull. Better go back to night school.
No more response for you. Go and take American Constitution class in a real reputable University like I did more than 25 yrs ago and then come back to apologize.

OkpaNsukkaisBae:




The words on caps?
Are you now rephrasing what I said in order to correct your blunder or are you confused?
If you're confused, ask questions.

OkpaNsukkaisBae:




The words on caps?
Are you now rephrasing what I said in order to correct your blunder or are you confused?
If you're confused, ask questions.

dukie25:
Is this a joke?
Instead of sending them to where real democraciy is practiced they're sending them to Emirate of Dubai? Why not just send them to Iran?

dukie25:
Is this a joke?
Instead of sending them to where real democraciy is practiced they're sending them to Emirate of Dubai? Why not just send them to Iran?

AgentOfAllah:

Two questions arise from your objection, so I ask them to allow you the opportunity to expand on the validity of your alternative:

1) Define "real democracy", then tell us where it is practiced.

2) Describe the necessary link, if any, between government administration and true democracy.

Thank you

Ayoefa:


Thirdly, United State's electoral college is derived from the United State's Constitution. Not from any system of government same as the first point.
So olodos like you that cannot differentiate between a constitution and a system of government

Those are your words in BOLD. You said the Constitution of the US is different fro the system of Govt. My point is that the system of govt is derived from the constitution hence the system of govt and the constitution are one and the same. what type of govt, the election process and how it works are all from the constitution. You can not separate the system of govt from the Constitution. they are one and the same. Olodo, go back to night school or find a real university to attend.

9jaRealist:


The UAE is NOT a democracy at all (“real” or otherwise)...
Democratic government is premised on the ELECTION of leaders. The UAE is a MONARCHY!
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AgentOfAllah:


Did you read my questions? That UAE is not a democracy is a foregone conclusion. I am less concerned about what the UAE is or isn't, as I am about the presumed inherent properties of a "real democracy" that makes it a more qualitative alternative for learning government administration.

[b]To simplify my quest for clarification for you, I am trying to understand why the commenter believes that it is better to learn government administration from a "real democracy" [/b]as opposed to a Monarchy. But first, it is necessary for us to understand what the commenter means by "real democracy", following which we can then examine these so-called examples of real democracies for internal contradictions. If all checks out, we can then discuss what exclusive properties of real democracies make them the best examples of good government administration.

Do not assume that I favour one system over the other. My ignorance allows me no such privilege. Therefore, I'm open to being convinced one way or the other.

9jaRealist:


Because the letter approving and authorizing the trip stated that it was to learn from an "advanced democracy" (see letter below)...

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AgentOfAllah:

Okay, I've read the letter and I do not see where it was "stated" that it "was to learn from an "advanced democracy"". That is a concocted interpretation you have imposed on the letter. In fact, UAE might not be an advanced democracy, or a democracy at all, but may still practice government administration as is being practiced "in advanced democracies worldwide". Likewise, despite its lack of democracy, UAE might be host to some sort of institute that prepares administrators for governance similar to what is practiced in advanced democracies. As you see, there are other ways to interpret that letter which don't require one to assume that the UAE is a democracy at all.

Now, I do not claim that these other ways of interpretation capture the intent of the author. The fact is that since I have not spoken with the author of the letter, I don't know what they meant by that statement. Neither do you, I assume. There is simply not enough information to make one come to the conclusion that you have come to.

That said, none of this addresses the questions in my original post. Again, they are:

1) What is a "real democracy"? Give examples of such.

2) What is the link between good government administration and "real democracy"?

AgentOfAllah:
That said, none of this addresses the questions in my original post. Again, they are:

1) What is a "real democracy"? Give examples of such.

2) What is the link between good government administration and "real democracy"?

9jaRealist:


Why would you go to an absolute monarchy to be “exposed” (since you seem to preferring chasing the shadow of nomenclature over substance) to the “practices” of “advanced democracies”. Perhaps, the letter writer (and presumably you as well) do not know that many “practices” of local governments in “advanced democracies” are subjected to PUBLIC debate and vote. Dude, you cannot put up a street sign or change the days of garbage collections (for example) in most “advanced democracies” without an open local council hearing and vote.

Taking folks to the UAE to supposedly “expose” them to the practices of “advanced democracies”...
Is akin to taking someone to a basketball game to “expose” him/her to the practices of table-tennis (ping pong).
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