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Re: The Story Of Prophet Luut by true2god: 8:57am On Jul 10, 2019
Empiree:
oh yea, redemption camp indeed. Mecca and Medina are redemption camp, too. When Jews and nasara(not CHRISTIANs- CHRISTIANITY was founded by Paul) were in Medina, they were simply muslims by faith and loved by be Allah bcuz they followed commandments until they disbelieved and disobeyed. They they got kicked out.
It is even funny that mohammed and allah did not know that Paul existed but Muslims, who are more vast than Mohammed, know of his influnence in the christian world. Nigerian Muslims seem to be more intelligent than there Arab masters who translated, in all their English quran, 'nasara' to mean 'christians'. Well see below:

009:030
“…And the ‘al-Nasara’ say, 'The Messiah is the Son of God’ That is their saying with their mouths, they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before. May God destroy them! How they are deluded!…”

Oh so the nasara are not Christians but allah asked Muslims to fight them (quran 9:29) because they blasphemed by calling the messiah 'the Son of God’. Islam is a pack of lies and confusions. Yahud is arabic word for the Jews while Nasara is the Arabic word for the Christians. Don't claim smarted than the Arabs who own the religion.
Empiree:
the same way they were kicked out in Europe by CHRISTIANs. Did your Bible not informed us of destruction of locals by Jews and CHRISTIANS?. Did your Bible not inform you that the only people allowed in the holy are believers with righteous conducts?. When Muslims ruled Jerusalem CHRISTIANs and Jews lived peacefully with them. But now that Jews are ruling Jerusalem they are intolerant of muslims and CHRISTIANS. Why are you acting as if they cared about you in Jerusalem?. Did you not see how they treat CHRISTIAN Africans?.
When Muslims rule Jerusalem they lived under the 'pact of umar' and were regarded as second or third class citizens. There was peace because the conqured Jews and christians lived under the pact of umar. In case your imam failed to teach you what the pact is all about, see details below (for free):

1. The ruler would provide security for the Christian believers who follow the rules of the pact.

2. Prohibition against building new churches, places of worship, monasteries, monks or a new cell. (Hence it was also forbidden to build new synagogues, although it is known that new synagogues were built after the occupation of the Islam, for example in Jerusalem and Ramle. The law that prohibits to build new synagogues was not new for the Jews, it was applied also during the Byzantines. It was new for the Christians.)

3.Prohibition against rebuilding destroyed churches, by day or night, in their own neighbourhoods or those situated in the quarters of the Muslims.

4. Prohibition against hanging a cross on the Churches.Muslims should be allowed to enter Churches (for shelter) in any time, both in day and night.Obliging the call of prayer by a bell or a kind of Gong (Nakos) to be low in volume.

5. Prohibition of Christians and Jews against raising their voices at prayer times.

6. Prohibition against teaching non-Muslim children the Qur'an. Christians were forbidden to show their religion in public, or to be seen with Christian books or symbols in public, on the roads or in the markets of the Muslims.Palm Sunday and Easter parades were banned. Funerals should be conducted quietly.

7. Prohibition against burying non-Muslim dead near Muslims.

8. Prohibition against raising a pig next to a Muslims neighbour. Christian were forbidden to sell Muslims alcoholic beverage. Christians were forbidden to provide cover or shelter for spies.

9. Prohibition against telling a lie about Muslims. Obligation to show deference toward Muslims. If a Muslim wishes to sit, non-Muslim should be rise from his seats and let the Muslim sit.

10. Prohibition against preaching to Muslims in an attempt to convert them from Islam.

11. Prohibition against preventing the conversion to Islam of some one who wants to convert.

12. The appearance of the non-Muslims has to be different from those of the Muslims: Prohibition against wearing Qalansuwa (kind of dome that was used to wear by Bedouin), Bedouin turban (Amamh), Muslims shoes, and Sash to their waists. As to their heads, it was forbidden to comb the hair sidewise as the Muslim custom, and they were forced to cut the hair in the front of the head. Also non-Muslim shall not imitate the Arab-Muslim way of speech nor shall adopt the kunyas (Arabic byname, such as "abu Khattib"wink.
Obligation to identify non-Muslims as such by clipping the heads' forelocks and by always dressing in the same manner, wherever they go, with binding the zunar (a kind of belt) around the waists. Christians to wear blue belts or turbans, Jews to wear yellow belts or turbans, Zoroastrians to wear black belts or turbans, and Samaritans to wear red belts or turbans.

13. Prohibition against riding animals in the Muslim custom, and prohibition against riding with a saddle.

14. Prohibition against adopting a Muslim title of honour.

15. Prohibition against engraving Arabic inscriptions on signet seals.

16. Prohibition against any possession of weapons.

17. Non-Muslims must host a Muslim passerby for at least 3 days and feed him.

18. Non-Muslims prohibited from buying a Muslim prisoner.

19. Prohibition against taking slaves who have been allotted to Muslims.

20. Prohibition against non-Muslims to lead, govern or employ Muslims.If a non-Muslim beats a Muslim, his Dhimmi is removed.
The worship places of non-Muslims must be lower in elevation than the lowest mosque in town. The houses of non-Muslims must not be taller in elevation than the houses of Muslims.
Re: The Story Of Prophet Luut by Empiree: 9:50am On Jul 10, 2019
Who's interested in epistle?. What does this epistle has to do with the fact that jews were kicked out of Europe by CHRISTIANs for the same ugly behavior of theirs like they did in the time of the prophet in Medina?.

Now they are enjoying protection in America but they have been engaging in the same behavior like they did centuries ago. Listen, there are overwhelming Americans who dislike them for the same behavior but they hide under American law for protection.


Compared Muslims treatment of Jews with European CHRISTIANs. Muslims were far better. S for nassara and modern Christians, modern CHRISTIANs simply cloned ancient nasara. Jesus Christ don't know modern CHRISTIANs
true2god:
It is even funny that mohammed and allah did not know that Paul existed but Muslims, who are more vast than Mohammed, know of his influnence in the christian world. Nigerian Muslims seem to be more intelligent than there Arab masters who translated, in all their English quran, 'nasara' to mean 'christians'. Well see below:

009:030
“…And the ‘al-Nasara’ say, 'The Messiah is the Son of God’ That is their saying with their mouths, they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before. May God destroy them! How they are deluded!…”

Oh so the nasara are not Christians but allah asked Muslims to fight them (quran 9:29) because they blasphemed by calling the messiah 'the Son of God’. Islam is a pack of lies and confusions. Yahud is arabic word for the Jews while Nasara is the Arabic word for the Christians. Don't claim smarted than the Arabs who own the religion.
When Muslims rule Jerusalem they lived under the 'pact of umar' and were regarded as second or third class citizens. There was peace because the conqured Jews and christians lived under the pact of umar. In case your imam failed to teach you what the pact is all about, see details below (for free):

1. The ruler would provide security for the Christian believers who follow the rules of the pact.

2. Prohibition against building new churches, places of worship, monasteries, monks or a new cell. (Hence it was also forbidden to build new synagogues, although it is known that new synagogues were built after the occupation of the Islam, for example in Jerusalem and Ramle. The law that prohibits to build new synagogues was not new for the Jews, it was applied also during the Byzantines. It was new for the Christians.)

3.Prohibition against rebuilding destroyed churches, by day or night, in their own neighbourhoods or those situated in the quarters of the Muslims.

4. Prohibition against hanging a cross on the Churches.Muslims should be allowed to enter Churches (for shelter) in any time, both in day and night.Obliging the call of prayer by a bell or a kind of Gong (Nakos) to be low in volume.

5. Prohibition of Christians and Jews against raising their voices at prayer times.

6. Prohibition against teaching non-Muslim children the Qur'an. Christians were forbidden to show their religion in public, or to be seen with Christian books or symbols in public, on the roads or in the markets of the Muslims.Palm Sunday and Easter parades were banned. Funerals should be conducted quietly.

7. Prohibition against burying non-Muslim dead near Muslims.

8. Prohibition against raising a pig next to a Muslims neighbour. Christian were forbidden to sell Muslims alcoholic beverage. Christians were forbidden to provide cover or shelter for spies.

9. Prohibition against telling a lie about Muslims. Obligation to show deference toward Muslims. If a Muslim wishes to sit, non-Muslim should be rise from his seats and let the Muslim sit.

10. Prohibition against preaching to Muslims in an attempt to convert them from Islam.

11. Prohibition against preventing the conversion to Islam of some one who wants to convert.

12. The appearance of the non-Muslims has to be different from those of the Muslims: Prohibition against wearing Qalansuwa (kind of dome that was used to wear by Bedouin), Bedouin turban (Amamh), Muslims shoes, and Sash to their waists. As to their heads, it was forbidden to comb the hair sidewise as the Muslim custom, and they were forced to cut the hair in the front of the head. Also non-Muslim shall not imitate the Arab-Muslim way of speech nor shall adopt the kunyas (Arabic byname, such as "abu Khattib"wink.
Obligation to identify non-Muslims as such by clipping the heads' forelocks and by always dressing in the same manner, wherever they go, with binding the zunar (a kind of belt) around the waists. Christians to wear blue belts or turbans, Jews to wear yellow belts or turbans, Zoroastrians to wear black belts or turbans, and Samaritans to wear red belts or turbans.

13. Prohibition against riding animals in the Muslim custom, and prohibition against riding with a saddle.

14. Prohibition against adopting a Muslim title of honour.

15. Prohibition against engraving Arabic inscriptions on signet seals.

16. Prohibition against any possession of weapons.

17. Non-Muslims must host a Muslim passerby for at least 3 days and feed him.

18. Non-Muslims prohibited from buying a Muslim prisoner.

19. Prohibition against taking slaves who have been allotted to Muslims.

20. Prohibition against non-Muslims to lead, govern or employ Muslims.If a non-Muslim beats a Muslim, his Dhimmi is removed.
The worship places of non-Muslims must be lower in elevation than the lowest mosque in town. The houses of non-Muslims must not be taller in elevation than the houses of Muslims.
Re: The Story Of Prophet Luut by true2god: 10:43am On Jul 10, 2019
Empiree:
Who's interested in epistle?. What does this epistle has to do with the fact that jews were kicked out of Europe by CHRISTIANs for the same ugly behavior of theirs like they did in the time of the prophet in Medina?.

Now they are enjoying protection in America but they have been engaging in the same behavior like they did centuries ago. Listen, there are overwhelming Americans who dislike them for the same behavior but they hide under American law for protection.


Compared Muslims treatment of Jews with European CHRISTIANs. Muslims were far better. S for nassara and modern Christians, modern CHRISTIANs simply cloned ancient nasara. Jesus Christ don't know modern CHRISTIANs
Take time and study the 'pact of umar' as it relates to the evil instruction by Mohammed in quran 9:29. This pact is the precedence to Islamic global aggression against all kafir worldwide. It is also a fact that in canonical Islamic text, not christian text, the Jews are considered eternal enemies of the Arab-muslims.

“Abu Huraira reported Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, or the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him; but the tree Gharqad would not say, for it is the tree of the Jews.” — Sahih Muslim 6985

This is a sahih hadith why Mohammed gave a marching order for the destruction of the Jews.
Re: The Story Of Prophet Luut by Empiree: 2:40pm On Jul 10, 2019
true2god:
Take time and study the 'pact of umar' as it relates to the evil instruction by Mohammed in quran 9:29. This pact is the precedence to Islamic global aggression against all kafir worldwide. It is also a fact that in canonical Islamic text, not christian text, the Jews are considered eternal enemies of the Arab-muslims.

“Abu Huraira reported Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, or the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him; but the tree Gharqad would not say, for it is the tree of the Jews.” — Sahih Muslim 6985

This is a sahih hadith why Mohammed gave a marching order for the destruction of the Jews.
I know you will continue to ignore the fact that Jews were kicked out by their "loving" European CHRISTIANs because of their evil characteristics. The Hadith you quoted is in response to their accumulated aggressions against the muslims (Palestinians). And going by proper methodology, the Hadith in no way talking about or accusing all Jews. It is rather referring to blameworthy Jews unless you are blinded by your ego you don't see Zionist-Jews aggressions and wickedness against muslims on the Holy Land today as they did in history.

The very reasons they were given the land by God was based on 2 conditions: to have faith in God and to be righteous in conduct.Texts such as Leviticus 25:18 and 26:31-34, Amos 5:6-9 and 6:1-7 and Jeremiah 7:1-7 concur with this idea of conditionality. The same conditions are mentioned in the Qur'an. They obviously violated these two conditions.

Killing and bombing Palestinians and promoting vices are not righteous conducts. You however claimed to dislike homosexualism "1000%' yet you support the very same people who are pro-gay. The very same people who mock your 3headed gods. The very same people who don't give a damn about you.

Is it not clear your reason for hating Muslims and Islam is absolutely irrational?. So anytime Hadith speaks negatively of Jews it is only speaking about aggressive and unrighteous ones.... Not all Jews. Get your fact right. Where was the rest of the world when Jews were persecuted and kicked out by Christians in Europe? It was Muslims who saved their @ss and they are biting hands that saved them.

Re: The Story Of Prophet Luut by true2god: 5:05pm On Jul 10, 2019
Empiree:
I know you will continue to ignore the fact that Jews were kicked out by their "loving" European CHRISTIANs because of their evil characteristics. The Hadith you quoted is in response to their accumulated aggressions against the muslims (Palestinians). And going by proper methodology, the Hadith in no way talking about or accusing all Jews. It is rather referring to blameworthy Jews unless you are blinded by your ego you don't see Zionist-Jews aggressions and wickedness against muslims on the Holy Land today as they did in history.
You can interprete the hadith the way you like but the narration is very clear: 'The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them'. Even Steve Wonder can see and read clearly the evil instruction of your prophet. When this hadith was written, there is no place like Palestine in the world map so stop adding to your hadith to give it another meaning that suit your narrative. And for your information, the Muslims were equally kicked out of Western Europe when they could no longer be tolerated.
Empiree:
The very reasons they were given the land by God was based on 2 conditions: to have faith in God and to be righteous in conduct.Texts such as Leviticus 25:18 and 26:31-34, Amos 5:6-9 and 6:1-7 and Jeremiah 7:1-7 concur with this idea of conditionality. The same conditions are mentioned in the Qur'an. They obviously violated these two conditions.
The muslim countries are equally as corrupt as the land of the kafir. Muslim countries has the highest trafick in pornographic streaming and pedophilia. Pakistan and Afghanistan grow and consume and supply (Arab world) the largest dose of narcotics. Chill bro with your self righteous sermon.

Empiree:
Killing and bombing Palestinians and promoting vices are not righteous conducts. You however claimed to dislike homosexualism "1000%' yet you support the very same people who are pro-gay. The very same people who mock your 3headed gods. The very same people who don't give a damn about you.
Yes, the Jews don't give a fucck about me just as the Arabs dont give a fucck about you. Do you really think the Arabs consider you a muslim? Go to the Arab world and be reminded that allah and the messenger made black slaves to the arabs.
Empiree:
Is it not clear your reason for hating Muslims and Islam is absolutely irrational?. So anytime Hadith speaks negatively of Jews it is only speaking about aggressive and unrighteous ones.... Not all Jews. Get your fact right. Where was the rest of the world when Jews were persecuted and kicked out by Christians in Europe? It was Muslims who saved their @ss and they are biting hands that saved them.
I don't hate Muslims but I hate Islamic hateful ideologies. My Muslim neighbor bought me my first car and I never invited him to church. And FYA, most hadith and koranuc verses speak of the need to eliminate Jews. Adolf Hitler, in his book titled 'Meim Kampf' said and I quote: 'these Jews are sub-human parasites that must be destroyed'. Mohammed also called for the killing of Jews, so whats the difference?
Re: The Story Of Prophet Luut by Empiree: 6:59pm On Jul 10, 2019
true2god:
You can interprete the hadith the way you like but the narration is very clear: 'The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them'. Even Steve Wonder can see and read clearly the evil instruction of your prophet. When this hadith was written, there is no place like Palestine in the world map so stop adding to your hadith to give it another meaning that suit your narrative. And for your information, the Muslims were equally kicked out of Western Europe when they could no longer be tolerated.
Sorry, you don't ave to understand the hadith. We do. You still avoid essential character they were known by throughout their history. They are the same semitic people. Palestine was named by Greek which was part of the modern scheme of things. Holy Land is what Quran calls it not "jewish land" ANd no, you cant teach me what the hadith means. We know what it means whether you accept it or not is irrelevant.


The muslim countries are equally as corrupt as the land of the kafir. Muslim countries has the highest trafick in pornographic streaming and pedophilia. Pakistan and Afghanistan grow and consume and supply (Arab world) the largest dose of narcotics. Chill bro with your self righteous sermon.
Quran chastises unrighteous muslims as well so i dont need your story. However, there is difference btw doing corruption and legalizing corruption. So far no muslim countries made it constitutionally right for muslims or it citizens to openly watch these things and it will never happen. Anytime some people try to legalize evil practices other muslim stand against it. BUt yours is not the case. ANd you hypocrite. If these mentioned muslim countries blocked such website, it is folks like you that start screaming about "no free speech in muslim countries, there is internet censorship in muslim countries, no freedom in muslim countries". But while they allow uncensored internet access you have another excuses to dent their image. You boring.


Yes, the Jews don't give a fucck about me
so why are you here defending your god's archenemies?. Have you not betrayed Jesus?


I don't hate Muslims but I hate Islamic hateful ideologies.
Evangelism :Di Have heard this trick over a million times.


My Muslim neighbor bought me my first car and I never invited him to church.
Thats bcuz of his islamic "hateful ideologies". Very good of him.


And FYA, most hadith and koranuc verses speak of the need to eliminate Jews. Adolf Hitler, in his book titled 'Meim Kampf' said and I quote: 'these Jews are sub-human parasites that must be destroyed'. Mohammed also called for the killing of Jews, so whats the difference?
Hitler was a christian terrorist. So he served your god's killers well.
Re: The Story Of Prophet Luut by true2god: 9:48am On Jul 11, 2019
Empiree:
Sorry, you don't ave to understand the hadith. We do. You still avoid essential character they were known by throughout their history. They are the same semitic people. Palestine was named by Greek which was part of the modern scheme of things. Holy Land is what Quran calls it not "jewish land" ANd no, you cant teach me what the hadith means. We know what it means whether you accept it or not is irrelevant.
There is nowhere in any old Islamic source document (the quran, the hadith or the seerah) that you will find the word 'PALESTINE' because even the old Arab people do not know if such a people existed. The modern-day Palestinians are ethnically Jordanians because, prior 1948 declation of the state of Isreal, they all claim Jordanians. The idea of creating a pseudo country (Palestine) by the Arab world to counter the creation of the state of Israel is a political move, on the part of the Arabs, using oil as a bait for negotiation.

Empiree:
Quran chastises unrighteous muslims as well so i dont need your story. However, there is difference btw doing corruption and legalizing corruption. So far no muslim countries made it constitutionally right for muslims or it citizens to openly watch these things and it will never happen. Anytime some people try to legalize evil practices other muslim stand against it. BUt yours is not the case. ANd you hypocrite. If these mentioned muslim countries blocked such website, it is folks like you that start screaming about "no free speech in muslim countries, there is internet censorship in muslim countries, no freedom in muslim countries". But while they allow uncensored internet access you have another excuses to dent their image. You boring.
There is a law against the sales and distribution of hard drugs worldwide but that does not stop evil people from trafficking and selling hard drugs. Banning an evil lifestyle is good but that does not deter a group of people who are inherently programmed to commit evil. The Arab world, despite religious and government restrictions on watching and downloading X-rated videos, is the largest consumer of pornographic contents worldwide. It is easier to find X-rated videos among the people of Northern Nigeria than the people of southern Nigeria, does that give you a clue? Let me no say much about this for now.


Empiree:
so why are you here defending your god's archenemies?. Have you not betrayed Jesus?
I am not here do defend the Jews but to discuss Islam.


Empiree:
Evangelism :Di Have heard this trick over a million times.
"How dreadful are the curses which Islam lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog".... “Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities"...(Winston Churchill, former British PM)


Empiree:
Thats bcuz of his islamic "hateful ideologies". Very good of him.
The good deed my Muslim neighbor did was not because of what the quran teaches but his God-given instinct and his human consciousness to do good. All man is created to do good except he read books like the Quran or the '48 laws of power'.[/quote]


Empiree:
Hitler was a christian terrorist. So he served your god's killers well.
Yes, Hitler was a christian terrorist and Mohammed was a Muslim terrorist (sahih bukhari 4:52:220). The same bad influence on human beings. No one is feeling the 'Hitler effect' but hundreds of millions are still having the 'Mohammed effect' in terms of violent and wholesale destruction based on ideology.

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