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Re: African American Tourists Visit Oba Of Benin (photos) by KenModi(m): 1:00pm On Jul 05, 2019 |
prolog3111: Chai! You mean to tell me say you no chop the food wey I prepare for you inside my comment?!
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Re: African American Tourists Visit Oba Of Benin (photos) by czarina(f): 1:05pm On Jul 05, 2019 |
otipoju:True. That Wakanda thing is hilarious every time! |
Re: African American Tourists Visit Oba Of Benin (photos) by musicwriter(m): 1:23pm On Jul 05, 2019 |
Alan Ryder, recording the experiences of yet another European merchant, the French trader and Captain called Landolphe, in Benin in February 1778, said, "the Ezomo (leading military Chief) was the richest man in Benin, owning more than 10,000 slaves, none of whom was ever sold." The author then commented: "His (the Ezomo's) refusal to sell any of his slaves is also noteworthy for the light it sheds upon the attitude of powerful Edo chiefs towards the slave trade: however numerous they might be, a great man did not sell his slaves." Says Edo people: "vbo ghi da Oba no na mu ovionren khien?" Meaning, "what need does the Oba want to satisfy by putting out his slave for sale?" The above quote is for those of you who believe there was slave trade in Africa before the arrival of Europeans. In ancient Africa, we didn't have a prison system because crime rate was almost zero, so instead of a prison system for punishing crime, any criminal (wrong doer) and prisoners of war became servants under a ruler for a specific amount of time. They were meant to serve the ruler, help in menial jobs and they normally would regain their freedom after a while. However, in Europe, as early as the 5th century AD, the same criminals (wrong doers) and prisoners of war, were kept as serfs (slaves) under a landlord and they were traded among feudal lords even before Europeans arrived Africa. This is how the African criminals (wrong doers) and prisoners of war serving for their crimes became interpreted by the Europeans as SLAVES (because that's what they called similar situation in Europe) not realizing that ours was used for reprimand only. Ours were never to be sold!!. At no time did Africans engage in slave trade before the arrival of Europeans. It wasn't until the arrival of Europeans that they hoodwinked African rulers into the slave business. You will never find it in history where Africans engaged in slave trade before the arrival of Arabs and Europeans. It did not happen!. The unanimous response by Africans to Europeans would have been as the Bini's said ''what need does the Oba want to satisfy by putting out his slave (wrong doers and prisoners of war) for sale?'' Africans, get your history right. The white man is a liar and he control your by lying to you. Slavery has been going on in Europe for thousands of years before the Europeans arrive Africa. To find out the truth about African history and burst European lies, learn from these black scholars. See Africans and African-American scholars of black history you should know http://www.africason.com/2018/08/africans-and-african-american-scholars.html 2 Likes |
Re: African American Tourists Visit Oba Of Benin (photos) by Omudia11: 1:28pm On Jul 05, 2019 |
Shut up and learn from people who know more than you. prolog3111: |
Re: African American Tourists Visit Oba Of Benin (photos) by Omudia11: 1:30pm On Jul 05, 2019 |
Fine boy. bigfrancis21: |
Re: African American Tourists Visit Oba Of Benin (photos) by Nobody: 2:12pm On Jul 05, 2019 |
bendike:he dey greet u in esan language 1 Like |
Re: African American Tourists Visit Oba Of Benin (photos) by Menance: 2:19pm On Jul 05, 2019 |
Hmm |
Re: African American Tourists Visit Oba Of Benin (photos) by Originalsly: 2:31pm On Jul 05, 2019 |
RedboneSmith: Interesting discussion. Is this fact based on their forefathers being enslaved and slaves were cross bred during and after slavery? There are concentrations of slaves who on reaching the West immediately escaped and set up their own communities deep in the jungle....pretty much maintaining their culture ....and more relevant to this conversation.... their DNA. Some of those people have migrated to the US.... and can have a 100% DNA as one in Africa whose forefathers never ever left his homeland. The people I refer to.... the Ndyuka people of Suriname. |
Re: African American Tourists Visit Oba Of Benin (photos) by Judybash93(m): 2:33pm On Jul 05, 2019 |
meobizy: Well, according to a number of YouTube videos that i also watched... It's been gathered that most of them share a lot of their ancestry from parts that today are known as the Gambia, Senegal, Liberia, Sierra Leone, Nigeria and a lot more with majority having their DNA being strongly related to the coasts of Nigeria and other West African countries... Let's just call them Africans... If we get our DNA tested right now, we'll be surprised as to where our ancestors are from sef? I'm happy for them though |
Re: African American Tourists Visit Oba Of Benin (photos) by EmekusTHEgreat(m): 2:42pm On Jul 05, 2019 |
thesicilian: A race doesn't determine a man.. |
Re: African American Tourists Visit Oba Of Benin (photos) by salford1: 3:04pm On Jul 05, 2019 |
gregyboy:Exactly. Benin people were slave traders or masters. Lol They raided other ethnic groups in the Niger Delta area to sell as slaves. 1 Like |
Re: African American Tourists Visit Oba Of Benin (photos) by meobizy(f): 3:06pm On Jul 05, 2019 |
Judybash93:Here we go again *roll eyes*. Now where did I deny they were West African? Mind you Gambia is also a West African country. I don’t see what point you’re trying to beat here — it’s already a dead horse. |
Re: African American Tourists Visit Oba Of Benin (photos) by 2mch(m): 3:07pm On Jul 05, 2019 |
bigfrancis21:Yoruba didn’t sell themselves until the civil war. So it’s impossible for Bini people to sell Yoruba’s before then. |
Re: African American Tourists Visit Oba Of Benin (photos) by ElderE(m): 3:41pm On Jul 05, 2019 |
We would have just called them our long lost brothers and sisters in a white man's land |
Re: African American Tourists Visit Oba Of Benin (photos) by morpheus24: 4:23pm On Jul 05, 2019 |
YorubaMuslims: Skin color does give an indication of possible admixture or ancestry taking other factors into consideration. The assertion is not that light skin only comes as a result of admixture but that there is a correlation for light skin in African Americans and the probability of admixture genes from Europeans. 1 Like |
Re: African American Tourists Visit Oba Of Benin (photos) by morpheus24: 4:30pm On Jul 05, 2019 |
YorubaMuslims: The gene that is said to cause or influence light skin in Europeans has ancient variants in Africa and the prevalence of this ancient mutation has a strong concentration in the Igbo speaking peoples of Nigeria and the SAN peoples of South Africa. The variant in East Africa is said to have been brought in from back migrations from the levant and West Asia. Source: https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/10/new-gene-variants-reveal-evolution-human-skin-color 1 Like |
Re: African American Tourists Visit Oba Of Benin (photos) by Judybash93(m): 5:14pm On Jul 05, 2019 |
meobizy: I wasn't arguing with you. I was only amplifying your point |
Re: African American Tourists Visit Oba Of Benin (photos) by goalernestman: 5:56pm On Jul 05, 2019 |
gregyboy: Bro they really traded slave with Benin only that oba of Benin didn't agree to the claim just because of good name but this is true European confirm it. |
Re: African American Tourists Visit Oba Of Benin (photos) by LGDON: 6:04pm On Jul 05, 2019 |
gregyboy: You lied, the Oba of Benin sold the highest slaves in west Africa, 3.5 million as am told 65% of them went to America, the Benin people were sold as slaves. |
Re: African American Tourists Visit Oba Of Benin (photos) by poweredcom(m): 7:14pm On Jul 05, 2019 |
czarina: Thank you none of them except the ones that migrated from Africa to America to nationalize Like dem Akon and wyclef 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: African American Tourists Visit Oba Of Benin (photos) by gregyboy(m): 11:12pm On Jul 05, 2019 |
LGDON: Bwnin started selling slaves as trade since 15c with the pourtuguese they sold other tribe Benin's infact originated the tribal marks to mark themselves against captured slaves by the Portuguese after tge arrival of the britsh that other tribes jumped into the trade |
Re: African American Tourists Visit Oba Of Benin (photos) by gregyboy(m): 11:24pm On Jul 05, 2019 |
goalernestman: It will be only possibe on 3 condition if this slaves were taking from benin 1. ediod subgroups like delta Other part of edo state not benin exactly 2.either after the war with the britsh captive from 1987 invasion #which i doubt 3 ....history has it some bini warriors left to aid as Portuguese warriors at pourtugal and were to return but their fell inlove with Portugal and never returned back to benin #which I also doubt if this was the case |
Re: African American Tourists Visit Oba Of Benin (photos) by LGDON: 12:05am On Jul 06, 2019 |
gregyboy: The Oba of benin sold the so called benin people to the Portuguese, According to the Portugueses he sold 3.5 million slaves of which 65% was taken to America. Benin people were sold as slaves, Igbo people were sold as slaves, yoruba people were sold as slaves. Ask the yoruba people how they got to south america. The Oba of benin put his son Ado in Lagos for slave business. Lagos mean Eko... camp in our language It means where we camp slaves before been sold, that was a center of slave market. Again, benin people were sold as slaves by the Oba of benin. |
Re: African American Tourists Visit Oba Of Benin (photos) by goalernestman: 1:07am On Jul 06, 2019 |
gregyboy: It is truth Benin was originally slave sellers in Nigeria confirm by European igbo Yoruba who is claiming they sold slaves really were not but the Benin's did. But what unclear is if the Benin sold citizens of the city. |
Re: African American Tourists Visit Oba Of Benin (photos) by goalernestman: 1:09am On Jul 06, 2019 |
LGDON: yes Oba sold slaves in Lagos and what you said there is correct the European always confirm this but Oba of Benin try to direct it to his chifs. Greg try to go deep in researching about this. |
Re: African American Tourists Visit Oba Of Benin (photos) by gregyboy(m): 2:42am On Jul 06, 2019 |
LGDON: Lets take a look at benin in the past this was a kingdom that had pride for itself ...that pride took them to a war with all probability of not winning but yet they still fought so that same pridw made tgem forbadw the Portuguese for selling the benins because they understand how slaves were treated |
Re: African American Tourists Visit Oba Of Benin (photos) by goalernestman: 3:22am On Jul 06, 2019 |
gregyboy: are you talking about the First Class citizens of Benin in Benin city or the ones in Benin nation then. There is a reference of a guy taken from Benin nation oba as the ruler in 18th century this reference has been rewrite to look like it was an ignorant but when you read the guy full article quote Benin was the place. Go read about him |
Re: African American Tourists Visit Oba Of Benin (photos) by goalernestman: 3:40am On Jul 06, 2019 |
gregyboy:This guy is the only reference of slave who was taken from South Nigeria region in 17th cent that wrote about it. The man that makes many igbo think many black in America was taken from nri kingdom. The first link below rewrite the man article completely to make it looks like igbo https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olaudah_Equiano But the man real original article only writes by him alone explain the real fact https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Interesting_Narrative_of_the_Life_of_Olaudah_Equiano Just read his summary from chapter 1 |
Re: African American Tourists Visit Oba Of Benin (photos) by LGDON: 4:40am On Jul 06, 2019 |
gregyboy: How did the Europeans treat slaves that is horrible than what the Oba was doing in Benin? The Oba was using Benin people as human sacrifice to serve his idols. Dont argue what you dont know, the Oba of Benin sold many binis as slaves. You are even seeing some of the slave traced their root back home and you still arguing. I tire |
Re: African American Tourists Visit Oba Of Benin (photos) by RedboneSmith(m): 7:37am On Jul 06, 2019 |
YorubaMuslims: I am lightskinned too, and I am not mixed with some Caucasian. I thought what I was saying about the woman in blue would be understood without me going into too much detail. She has a general mixed look about her that goes beyond skin tone. 1 Like |
Re: African American Tourists Visit Oba Of Benin (photos) by gregyboy(m): 8:26am On Jul 06, 2019 |
LGDON: I don't know why you insist edo sold themselves as slaves what is your gain when the people are telling you they never recorded any such history ...on the otherhand this tourist could be long Benin migrant who parents left the shores of Nigeria long ago to u .s |
Re: African American Tourists Visit Oba Of Benin (photos) by LGDON: 1:49pm On Jul 06, 2019 |
gregyboy: What is wrong with you, you have seen descendants of those been sold as slaves traced their root back you are still arguing. For your information the binis dont have transparent history presently made public. |
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