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Re: Does Ifa Support Or Condemn Idol Worshiping? by Iyobaba: 12:46pm On May 19
Tochi360:
Ifa ko, Ifako Ijaya ni grin grin.

Oboy anything wey You fit carry for hand upandan can never be god,infact na You be dat thing god bcus the thing dey at Your mercy.

You fit take vex one morning carry the rubbish for head,waka go river nija dumb the nonsense inside grin grin.

Why did You think Abraham left His fathers idols to follow the MOST HIGH GOD?.

For years He has seen His Father and Fathers carry nonsense upandan that cant say a Word,but this VOICE ooo This Sweet soothing VOICE He nows Hears and Speaks to HEART to HEART without seeing Who's It Is must be the REAL DEAL or LIFE is equal to
Tohu wa Bohu(ABSOLUTELY NOTHING,NOTHING)
Nothing concern Africans with The story of Abraham, we are not related to the Arabs or the levants.

There is no definitive archaeological or non-biblical historical evidence to prove that Abraham was a real person. Most mainstream historians and biblical scholars consider the patriarchal narratives in the Book of Genesis to be largely mythological or cultural memories rather than strictly factual history.

Like I said, the greatest undoing of these foreign religion is the Internet, all your centuries of lies have been laid bare for all to see.
Re: Does Ifa Support Or Condemn Idol Worshiping? by Iyobaba: 12:48pm On May 19
Eniitankorede:
Thats instructions from creator of mankind. We do that in obedience to Him. When He instructed Ibrahim to kill ram instead of his son, he obeyed. Whatever He instructs prophets to do, they do it without hesitation. And we the followers of the prophets obey as well. That’s not idol worship. That’s the worship of one true Lord.
This your story of Ijapa ati Yanibo Don cast
Your Ibro na fictional character 😂
Re: Does Ifa Support Or Condemn Idol Worshiping? by IamAtAnger: 12:56pm On May 19
Them still show you shege 😝 ... there's levels in these things. Gba fun oga e 🤣😅🤣
dederocs:
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People invent things not religion. We take religion too seriously that's why we are not progressing. Religion is personal, for personal gratification, it's a people that is still evolving that takes religion so serious. You are completely out of context.
Re: Does Ifa Support Or Condemn Idol Worshiping? by ultraviolet27(f): 1:06pm On May 19
Elzazzi:
Is Olodumare not the Lord of the heavens ? How is Elade different from Olodumare in the Yoruba language!
I think the eleda there means(ori) your sou/spirit l not adeeda the creator (olodumare or eledumare) most times if your soul isn't attuned or in agreement with what you need,pray or hoped for you may no6 get the thing if your Ori(eleeda) spirit isn't appeased

Eleeda is your ori while adeeda God(olodumare)is the creator they are different
Re: Does Ifa Support Or Condemn Idol Worshiping? by Iyobaba: 1:16pm On May 19
ultraviolet27:
I think the eleda there means(ori) your sou/spirit l not adeeda the creator (olodumare or eledumare) most times if your soul isn't attuned or in agreement with what you need,pray or hoped for you may no6 get the thing if your Ori(eleeda) spirit isn't appeased

Eleeda is your ori while adeeda God(olodumare)is the creator they are different
Very apt.
Re: Does Ifa Support Or Condemn Idol Worshiping? by dederocs(m): 1:58pm On May 19
IamAtAnger:
Them still show you shege 😝 ... there's levels in these things. Gba fun oga e 🤣😅🤣
grin
Re: Does Ifa Support Or Condemn Idol Worshiping? by Eniitankorede: 3:18pm On May 19
Iyobaba:
This your story of Ijapa ati Yanibo Don cast
Your Ibro na fictional character 😂
If it’s fiction or not, your will know in your grave.
Re: Does Ifa Support Or Condemn Idol Worshiping? by Nobody: 3:22pm On May 19
Opiletool:
Below is a comment from Celestial777 made in another similar thread.


"Ifa loba
Orisa losin
Eledumare nikan lo to gbe okan Le

Odu irete
Ifa condemn idol worshiping
Ori ni a ba bo..a ba fi Orisa sile...ijo
Ti ori ngbeni nibo ni Orisa wa


Let's now talk about Orisa
What is an Orisa? Orisa is someone great that has live on earth before.
Awon ti ori sa so to
That is why you get the term orisa
Is like using the name of baba Oyedepo to pray
Like God of Oyedepo
So Orisa is a medium to get to Eledumare Agotun
Like in Catholic each profession has its own patron saint.
E.g saint Peter patron of fishermen
Saint Thomas Aquinos patron of sailors
So Saint Ogun is Patron of blacksmith and welders

Eledumare only is to be worshipped....the means is now left with you.
I chose to go through Christ for a reason cos
The story of creation said Eledumare and His only son word (oro) were the only one present when the world was about to be created.
Eji ogbe say so
And my Bible said the same
2. Secondly it is only Jesus that knows what happens when we die ..i mean after life
The Prophet Mohammed s.a.w
Said he dont know what will happen to him at death but Sheikh Ali and the rest should always pray for him...
3. Ifa said the good Priest and all those that venerated there Ifa well well while on earth will have surplus to eat at imere
That is why when a babalawo want to give kudos to his late boss he will say ...ki awo ire ma je ni imere
4.Jesus said in my Father's house there are many mansion there if no be so i will not say so

Listen that never mean I condemn any religion cos I know there are predestined Muslim and predestined ifa priest as well.
Well to me i know they will make heaven..very sure cos they are predestined.
Someone said what about Orumila
Baba is just a witness when humans are choosing destiny
Eleri ipin.....means witness to Destiny"
you guys can never mention anything about islam except lies. Prophet Muhammad s.a.w and Quran clearly mentioned every state after death and also mentioned his state after death and would be the first human to step into paradise. The prophet always state that he doesn't know the future except what God reveals.

Just like how many idol worshippers are deluded by worshipping men who walked earth, eat, drink and sleep that's how you guys worship Jesus who did the same. Even though Jesus clearly told you there is only one true God to be worshipped.

That's why your God's chosen people call you guys idol worshippers.
Re: Does Ifa Support Or Condemn Idol Worshiping? by lawani(m): 3:26pm On May 19
taiwiki:
you guys can never mention anything about islam except lies. Prophet Muhammad s.a.w and Quran clearly mentioned every state after death and also mentioned his state after death and would be the first human to step into paradise. The prophet always state that he doesn't know the future except what God reveals.

Just like how many idol worshippers are deluded by worshipping men who walked earth, eat, drink and sleep that's how you guys worship Jesus who did the same. Even though Jesus clearly told you there is only one true God to be worshipped.

That's why your God's chosen people call you guys idol worshippers.
The most intensely worshipped human being is Mohammed but Muslims conveniently miss that fact. How in the world will anyone say Jesus, Buddha or any deity for that matter is worshipped on this Earth more than Mohammed? Mohammed to Muslims is who Allah have to take permission from before telling people anything. Allah is working for Mohammed. So he is not only a deity but more than a deity to Muslims
Re: Does Ifa Support Or Condemn Idol Worshiping? by Iyobaba: 3:33pm On May 19
I understand how you feel, the binding glue that held the three lies (Judaism, christianity and Islam ) together for centuries has been proven to be made up, don't blame me, blame the Internet, more lies will be exposed with time, stay tuned.
Eniitankorede:
If it’s fiction or not, your will know in your grave.
Re: Does Ifa Support Or Condemn Idol Worshiping? by ComingKing: 3:36pm On May 19
Jerryhare:
Since 2019, the topic is just making FP in 2026. The OP was last seen in 2025
It looks like Seun is switching from Atheism to Ifa worship
Re: Does Ifa Support Or Condemn Idol Worshiping? by Nobody: 3:38pm On May 19
lawani:
The most intensely worshipped human being is Mohammed but Muslims conveniently miss that fact. How in the world will anyone say Jesus, Buddha or any deity for that matter is worshipped on this Earth more than Mohammed? Mohammed to Muslims is who Allah have to take permission from before telling people anything. Allah is working for Mohammed. So he is not only a deity but more than a deity to Muslims
again LIES UPON LIES. Stop projecting worship of humans on us. There is only one God and Muhammad s.a.w is His servant and every other creature are His servants too.
Re: Does Ifa Support Or Condemn Idol Worshiping? by Iyobaba: 3:54pm On May 19
lawani:
The most intensely worshipped human being is Mohammed but Muslims conveniently miss that fact. How in the world will anyone say Jesus, Buddha or any deity for that matter is worshipped on this Earth more than Mohammed? Mohammed to Muslims is who Allah have to take permission from before telling people anything. Allah is working for Mohammed. So he is not only a deity but more than a deity to Muslims
I feel that your Lord hastens in fulfilling your wishes and desires - Aisha
Sahih buhari 4788
Re: Does Ifa Support Or Condemn Idol Worshiping? by Tochi360: 4:00pm On May 19
Iyobaba:
Nothing concern Africans with The story of Abraham, we are not related to the Arabs or the levants.

There is no definitive archaeological or non-biblical historical evidence to prove that Abraham was a real person. Most mainstream historians and biblical scholars consider the patriarchal narratives in the Book of Genesis to be largely mythological or cultural memories rather than strictly factual history.

Like I said, the greatest undoing of these foreign religion is the Internet, all your centuries of lies have been laid bare for all to see.
Loll coming from a place of absolute ignorance and deliberate uninteligence grin grin.

You are actually as a Black man than the so called foriegners You were uninteligently told brought You the Gospel,related to Abraham grin.

Remember Hagar?? grin grin.
Some People just choose to be daft all in the quest for vain knowledge.

All Africans are Christians By God's setting.
Way way before the Whites were still worshipping rubbish just like Africans too,the Euthiopian Eunuch a Man of Authourity had already set His Heart on the Most High God,the God Of Abraham,Isaac and Israel.

God willed with that Africa was part and Parcel of Birth and Foudation of the Gospel of Christ Jesus by putting that Sweet Old Rugged Cross on the back of Simon the Cyrene. The Man was just passing by oo grin grin.

So You think after Carrying that Cross for His God, His Life and the Life of His Household would ever be the same??
Romans 16:13 (written by the Apostle Paul): “Greet Rufus, chosen in the Lord, and his mother, who has been a mother to me as well.” Many scholars and commentators consider this the same Rufus—son of Simon of Cyrene—making his mother (Simon’s wife) a significant figure who showed maternal care to Paul.


All those rubbish Our Ancestors were worshipping,they were not the only ones that did those rubbish in the Ignorance of their darkened mind,all over the World People also practiced rubbish but REALITY is before the so called foriegners You are talking about tasted it the Foundation had been built on Africa's back.

If You are African,if You are not following Jesus Christ,You are following RUBBISH.

Come out of that Darkness You are living,all in the name of studying,You are feeling Yourself up with BUMKUM. If You are not Learning Christ as Man,You are Learning Rubbish.

Once You drop that Body back to 6ft,will those rubbish idols You carry upandan that are at Your Mercy carry Your Spirit back Home to God??
Re: Does Ifa Support Or Condemn Idol Worshiping? by Smithwilliams826: 4:39pm On May 19
I bring Christianity
bilms:
Please do not bring any other religion into this discuss. This is strictly about ifa.

Secondly, whatever your definition of idol worshiping is, does ifa support or condemn idol worshiping?
Re: Does Ifa Support Or Condemn Idol Worshiping? by Iyobaba:
Tochi360:
Loll coming from a place of absolute ignorance and deliberate uninteligence grin grin.

You are actually as a Black man than the so called foriegners You were uninteligently told brought You the Gospel,related to Abraham grin.

Remember Hagar?? grin grin.
Some People just choose to be daft all in the quest for vain knowledge.

All Africans are Christians By God's setting.
Way way before the Whites were still worshipping rubbish just like Africans too,the Euthiopian Eunuch a Man of Authourity had already set His Heart on the Most High God,the God Of Abraham,Isaac and Israel.

God willed with that Africa was part and Parcel of Birth and Foudation of the Gospel of Christ Jesus by putting that Sweet Old Rugged Cross on the back of Simon the Cyrene. The Man was just passing by oo grin grin.

So You think after Carrying that Cross for His God, His Life and the Life of His Household would ever be the same??
Romans 16:13 (written by the Apostle Paul): “Greet Rufus, chosen in the Lord, and his mother, who has been a mother to me as well.” Many scholars and commentators consider this the same Rufus—son of Simon of Cyrene—making his mother (Simon’s wife) a significant figure who showed maternal care to Paul.


All those rubbish Our Ancestors were worshipping,they were not the only ones that did those rubbish in the Ignorance of their darkened mind,all over the World People also practiced rubbish but REALITY is before the so called foriegners You are talking about tasted it the Foundation had been built on Africa's back.

If You are African,if You are not following Jesus Christ,You are following RUBBISH.

Come out of that Darkness You are living,all in the name of studying,You are feeling Yourself up with BUMKUM. If You are not Learning Christ as Man,You are Learning Rubbish.

Once You drop that Body back to 6ft,will those rubbish idols You carry upandan that are at Your Mercy carry Your Spirit back Home to God??
Your education is a waste, if this is the best you can come up with. Facts are different from beliefs.
The facts remains your Abraham never existed and he's the unifying factor between the three lies.

The mere facts you mentioned Ethiopian Eunuchs and that Africans are Christians by default shows you have never came up with anything remotely knowledgeable in the entirety of your insignificant existence.

No be only Christians by default na Jews 😂😂😂
Re: Does Ifa Support Or Condemn Idol Worshiping? by AlphaTaikun: 10:21pm On May 19
Re: Does Ifa Support Or Condemn Idol Worshiping? by Federalofficia(m): 1:49am On May 20
should we need to translate it again, isn't that all what the videos of proffers or Sophy talking about after the oral explanation must we start translating for them again to understand, nobody translate English for us you mustearn and understand it by force
bilms:
IFA'S TAKE ON IDOL WORSHIPING

Ao le be igi ni igbo
We can't cut a tree from the forest

Ko wa di olowo eni
And it becomes our commander

Orere ko le ni iyi to eni to gbe
A craft can't be more prestigious than the crafter

Oni oju
It has eyes

Ko le ri iran
But it can't see

Oni ese
It has legs

Ko le sare
But can't run

Ifa loba
Ifa is the overseer

Orisa losin
The gifted are the messenger

Olodumare ni kan lo to gbekele
Only the creator can be relied upon

Ori ni a ba ma bo
We should rather worship the maker

A ba fi Orisa sile
And leave the gifted people

Ni ijo Ti ori ngbeni
While the creator is aiding us

Nibo ni Orisa wa
Where are the gifted one's?

Can someone please translate the Yoruba into a more appropriate and acceptable English language?
Re: Does Ifa Support Or Condemn Idol Worshiping? by lawani(m): 9:44pm On May 21
Opiletool:
Below is a comment from Celestial777 made in another similar thread.


"Ifa loba
Orisa losin
Eledumare nikan lo to gbe okan Le

Odu irete
Ifa condemn idol worshiping
Ori ni a ba bo..a ba fi Orisa sile...ijo
Ti ori ngbeni nibo ni Orisa wa


Let's now talk about Orisa
What is an Orisa? Orisa is someone great that has live on earth before.
Awon ti ori sa so to
That is why you get the term orisa
Is like using the name of baba Oyedepo to pray
Like God of Oyedepo
So Orisa is a medium to get to Eledumare Agotun
Like in Catholic each profession has its own patron saint.
E.g saint Peter patron of fishermen
Saint Thomas Aquinos patron of sailors
So Saint Ogun is Patron of blacksmith and welders

Eledumare only is to be worshipped....the means is now left with you.
I chose to go through Christ for a reason cos
The story of creation said Eledumare and His only son word (oro) were the only one present when the world was about to be created.
Eji ogbe say so
And my Bible said the same
2. Secondly it is only Jesus that knows what happens when we die ..i mean after life
The Prophet Mohammed s.a.w
Said he dont know what will happen to him at death but Sheikh Ali and the rest should always pray for him...
3. Ifa said the good Priest and all those that venerated there Ifa well well while on earth will have surplus to eat at imere
That is why when a babalawo want to give kudos to his late boss he will say ...ki awo ire ma je ni imere
4.Jesus said in my Father's house there are many mansion there if no be so i will not say so

Listen that never mean I condemn any religion cos I know there are predestined Muslim and predestined ifa priest as well.
Well to me i know they will make heaven..very sure cos they are predestined.
Someone said what about Orumila
Baba is just a witness when humans are choosing destiny
Eleri ipin.....means witness to Destiny"
There is nothing wrong in worshipping or greeting people whether dead or alive. It is just reverence and there is no human being that does not do it except you are not human. Don't be deceived that Jesus is worshipped and Mohammed is not. In what way exactly? No one is more worshipped than Mohammed. Don't be brainwashed.

Then orisa is just an exceptional person in Yoruba thought. They are people that added to civilization or advanced human civilization in any sector. It can be by inventing something or by being a very successful monarch and etc. There are several Ogun. The inventor of money was Ogun, the inventor of iron was Ogun, the inventor of markets was Ogun. Any inventor is actually an Ogun because Ogun is the path clearer and founder. Ogun was Onire, Alara, Akirun, Ajero and etc. Obatala is a benevolent elder more often male than female. Osanyin is magician and healer that uses natural things. Oya is a female energy associated with swift change. It is the female version of Ogun. Esu is analytical, deliberate and etc. He wants you to use your common sense and wants you to suffer if you don't. You need Esu to always make the right decisions. An Esu incarnate will not take nonsense from anybody. Esu will always write a perfect PhD dissertation and etc etc.

People who manifest these energies greatly become orisa and if you worship them as the Muslims do Mohammed it isn't wrong. Let the Muslims stop worshipping Mohammed before their opinion on how other people worship who they respect can be taken seriously
Re: Does Ifa Support Or Condemn Idol Worshiping? by Jerryhare: 6:18pm On May 27
Uhmmmm!

ComingKing:
It looks like Seun is switching from Atheism to Ifa worship
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