Ex-Jehovah Witness Learns the Witnesses lie about our Spirit Bodies

The Near Death Experience of Haydee Cortes

I was baptized by the Jehovah witnesses in 1970. I believed in God but I didn't believe that Jesus Christ was God. I believed Jesus Christ was a god created by the true God. I didn't believe in life after death much less that there was a conscious spirit that would leave the body when one died. I didn't believe in any kind of miracle healing nor I believed that God would communicate with people through visions or dreams. I believed that all kind of healing, miracles and visions were the work of the devil. I was very loyal to these Jehovah Witness teachings, and nobody could convince me of the contrary.

On September 12, 1973 I was ready to have a C-section done. While I was on the operation table I could see how the doctors and nurses were getting ready to do their job and they were kind of painting my abdomen with an orange liquid. I was concerned about it and asked what were they doing. The doctor explained to me that they were doing this before the anesthesia since they had to apply the anesthesia and start cutting right away to avoid the baby to be sedated.

They started injecting me the anesthesia and I felt a strange sensation. My body got stiffed, but my mind stayed awake. I realized they were going to cut my abdomen and I was not asleep. I tried to move and scream in desperation but all efforts were in vain. I started feeling a terrible pain while they were cutting my abdomen. All of a sudden in the middle of my pain I heard an audible voice saying; "Look what is going to happen to you!"
In that instant I was pulled out of my body with a sudden swoosh. I was moving very fast in a circular motion heading toward the ceiling of the room. I stayed hovering there looking down to what they were doing. I could see how my baby was being taken out of my womb. I felt very sad and I said: "Nothing can be done, everything is over for me on the earth. I was so anxious to see that baby and I couldn't even hold it in my arms". I remembered my other children with sadness and said, "This is the end; now my children will forget all about me".

I then started going up. I was aware I didn't have a solid body. I was some kind of energy force moving at a high speed like in a circular motion. I was completely conscious. I knew I was me and I had all my memories with me. I knew I had left the earth. I found myself in a pitch black place. I started asking questions to myself. "Is this the universe? Where am I? Where am I going to? Am I going to stay here forever?" All of a sudden I started feeling something very strange. The only word I can use for this is agony or torment. At the same time I was feeling a need for my body. I wanted to get out of there and I wanted my body back. I couldn't bear the torment. I remembered the voice I heard at the hospital right before coming out of my body ("look what is going to happen to you". I started screaming "PLEASE, DON'T LET THIS TO HAPPEN!" " I ACCEPT I WON'T EVER GO TO THE EARTH AGAIN , I ACCEPT I WON 'T EVER SEE MY CHILDREN AGAIN, BUT I CAN'T ACCEPT I WILL BE HERE FOREVER". "NO, PLEASE, DON'T LET THIS TO HAPPEN!" Immediately I heard a group of voices saying at the same time "This is for you to believe". I answered " I only believe in the Almighty God.

Then there was a silence.

The torment I was feeling stopped and I started to come down at a high speed again. I found myself back to the ceiling of the hospital room. This time my body was laying on a stretcher and I saw a nurse tapping its face and saying "Haydee, wake up!" I could clearly see her while I was moving down closer. Then I was softly dropped inside my body. The nurse was still tapping my face and calling my name. I opened my eyes and there she was right in front of my face. I looked at her eyes while I was thinking "I wish you knew where I'm coming from". I couldn't take the experience away from my mind and I was in a big concern about people in the world. I thought, "The Jehovah Witnesses deceived me, we are Spiritual Beings inside a flesh body and we come out of the body when we die!" People don't know what can happen to them. They should know about this!"

With this experience I learned that since I didn't believe in the Son of God I was in darkness. And there is where I went.

Matthew 8:11-12," And I say to you that many will come from east and west, and sit down with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob in the kingdom of heaven. But the sons of the kingdom will be cast out into outer darkness. There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.”

Matthew 25:30 - And cast ye the unprofitable servant into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

A few days later I was discharged from the hospital. I couldn't stop thinking about my amazing experience. I kept on repeating to myself, "I was deceived by the Jehovah Witnesses about no spirit coming out of the body when we died, and I just experienced it". I started to care for everyone in the world. I wanted to warn everybody about that dark place. I decided then to believe in Jesus Christ as my Savior and Lord and started visiting a Christian church.

After I have received Jesus Christ as my Lord and savior I woke up one night and got up from my bed. While walking toward the door I looked back at my bed and I saw my husband sleeping and to my surprise, my body was also there next to him. I realized I was out of my body again but this time I was not a formless energy moving at high speed. This time I had a body. I stretched my arms forward and looked at this new body. I then looked at my children's bedroom and I felt sad to leave them. I thought, "now when my children wake up they will see I'm dead. They will bury me and they will forget all about me. They don't have anybody to take good care of them, poor things".

I then knelt on the floor and started praying, "Please Lord, in the name of your son Jesus Christ, return me to my body. My children need me." I felt a force lifting me up slowly from the floor and positioned me on top of my material body on the bed and I started to come down slowly until I fell inside it. Right away I tried to open my eyes and move but the body was rigid like a wall . All efforts to move were in vain. I got desperate and I started to pray "Please Lord, my children need me; there is no one to take care of them properly, bring me back to life." I started feeling like needles inside my whole body. I felt the force of life and the beating of my heart. I then opened my eyes and this time they opened. Then I moved my fingers to check and they moved. I then jumped out of my bed amazed.

I have told this experience in different churches and many lives have been touched and have given their hearts to the Lord. To God be the glory.

The man itself is the soul. In genesis, man became a living soul when God breathed into man's nostrils, read genesis 2:7. Thia implies that the body and the breathe of life in man is what constitute a soul. i'm not a member of the Jehovah's witnesses but the bible also explained that any soul that sinneth shall die and most importantly, i will love to bring it to your notice that a woman is not ordained to teach the gospel and it'll be wrong of you going about preaching the word of God, you're free to ask me why i say this in a non-confrontatioal manner. Thank you.

@Hakunajay

The woman in question is just recounting her experiences as they occurred and not preaching the Gospel. However, you may throw some light on what you actually meant by your statement above.

@ poster

i shed tears when i read the story.

i felt vindicated at last. for months now i have been talking about this type of experience in nairaland and how once you have it you will never be the same again.

for us in Eckankar this is an experience we take for granted because it is something we experience regularly. it is simply called soul travel.

we are souls and the physical body is simply like a clothing for soul. when the cloth becomes worn out soul simply drops it which is what happens at death.

soul does not die. it lives for ever. soul exist because God loves It.

for more information on the nature of soul you can go to the website www.eckankar.org or www.eckankarnigeria.org

may the blessings be

hakunajay:

The man itself is the soul. In genesis, man became a living soul when God breathed into man's nostrils, read genesis 2:7. Thia implies that the body and the breathe of life in man is what constitute a soul. i'm not a member of the Jehovah's witnesses but the bible also explained that any soul that sinneth shall die and most importantly, i will love to bring it to your notice that a woman is not ordained to teach the gospel and it'll be wrong of you going about preaching the word of God, you're free to ask me why i say this in a non-confrontatioal manner. Thank you.

Who told you that it is wrong for women to preach the gospel?

benodic:

@ poster

i shed tears when i read the story.

i felt vindicated at last. for months now i have been talking about this type of experience in nairaland and how once you have it you will never be the same again.

for us in Eckankar this is an experience we take for granted because it is something we experience regularly. it is simply called soul travel.

we are souls and the physical body is simply like a clothing for soul. when the cloth becomes worn out soul simply drops it which is what happens at death.

soul does not die. it lives for ever. soul exist because God loves It.

for more information on the nature of soul you can go to the website www.eckankar.org or www.eckankarnigeria.org

may the blessings be

What makes you believe that the experience shared by the testimony in the OP is similar to your own beliefs?

The experience is very real

Christians are the most confused bunch of people ever!

First, they claim salvation not by proof, but by faith, then when the wave turns against faith, and since unable to reconcile with science or reason, turn to this RUBBISH!

A god who is powerless against his creation, does not worth worshipping.

I often wonder, do chicken spirits float about? What of homo habilis or erectus? Do they have spirits? intelligent animals like dolphins, chimps and whales have spirits too?

Some do like it hot.

http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0043/0043_01.asp

Back From The Dead

They thought he was dead, but he woke up screaming, "I've got to get saved! I saw hell! I never want to see it again!" Click on the link below and read all about the dramatic experience.

http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0096/0096_01.asp

OLAADEGBU:

Some do like it hot.

http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0043/0043_01.asp

and they will definitely get it hot

@ OP,
Please can you quote your source?

And i hope you realize that people who believe what you posted are people who believed in such before.

Source? What does it even matter? I just had a thought. I heard of this bloke, Gbenga Adeboye. We shoulda documented what he saw.

l sincerely hope that alot of people will learn from this experience
Romans 2:1 " Therefore thou art inexcusable, "

An out-of-body experience (OBE or sometimes OOBE), is an experience that typically involves a sensation of floating outside of one's body and, in some cases, perceiving one's physical body from a place outside one's body (autoscopy).

The term out-of-body experience was introduced in 1943 by G.N.M Tyrrell in his book Apparitions,[1] and adopted by, for example, Celia Green[2] and Robert Monroe[3] as a bias-free alternative to belief-centric labels such as "astral projection" or "spirit walking". Though the term usefully distances researchers from scientifically problematic concepts such as the soul, scientists still know little about the phenomenon.[4] Some researchers have managed to recreate OBE in a laboratory setup by stimulating a part in the human brain.[5] One in ten people has an out-of-body experience at some time in their lives.[6] OBEs are often part of the near-death experience. Those who have experienced OBEs sometimes claim to have observed details which were unknown to them beforehand.[7]

In some cases the phenomenon appears to occur spontaneously; in others it is associated with a physical or mental trauma, use of psychedelic drugs, dissociative drugs, or a dream-like state. Many techniques aiming to induce the experience deliberately have been developed,[8] for example visualization while in a relaxed, meditative state. Recent (2007) studies have shown that experiences somewhat similar to OBEs can be induced by direct brain stimulation. Some of those who experience OBEs claimed to have willed themselves out of their bodies, while others report having found themselves being pulled from their bodies (usually preceded by a feeling of paralysis). In other accounts, the feeling of being outside the body was suddenly realized after the fact, and the experiencers saw their own bodies almost by accident.[9] OBEs often occur during the borderline stage between REM sleep and arousal when sleep paralysis may persist and dream imagery may mingle with sensory input.[citation needed]

Some neurologists have suspected that the event is triggered by a mismatch between visual and tactile signals. They used a virtual reality setup to recreate an OBE.

OP,

i think you should do more research about OBEs and you will realise that its got nothing with JW beliefs, on whether they are right or wrong about the soul.

@OP
How does the fact that someone went out of her body and saw darkness translate to the fact that Jesus is God? Simple. After her experience she concluded that the Witnesses had deceived her since they know nothing about the dual nature of man. She then assumed that the popular Christian churches must be right since they know about a soul that is capable of being separated from the body. Since the churches are right about that they must also be about Jesus being God! Poor woman.

If she had taken time to compare her OBE with those of others she would have there were people from other Christian denominations who also experienced darkness in their OBE. Being in a state of darkness has nothing to do with your religion. It is the kind of life you live.

rabzy:

OP,

i think you should do more research about OBEs and you will realise that its got nothing with JW beliefs, on whether they are right or wrong about the soul.

How can you be sure that if he does more research he will reach same conclusion as you have? When you were doing your own research I bet you wore your coloured lenses and so saw only what you wanted to see - those reproduced in the labs, but not those which are not and which contain objectively verifiable events and situations.

@benodic,
this woman's experience is quite different from the soul travel you people talk about in that your God-forsaken eckankar so keep yours out of this pls.

Gaps in our knowledge is readily infiltrated by religion.

@ alexleo

i quite disagree with you. the experience the woman had was a soul travel experience. she experienced herself as soul leaving the physical body but panic set in because of her lack of confidence and because she was afraid.

there is nothing to fear in out of body experience because it simply shows you that you are eternal and deathless.

it is only the physical body that is mortal. we Eckists do not fear death and when it comes calling we simply drop the physical body and cross the borders of death boldly and go to any of the heavens or planes of God to continue our work for God there.

I agree entirely with Benodic. ECKANKAR provides the means of overcoming the fear of death via the Spiritual Exercises of ECK. Practised regularly, they provide proof of life after death and more besides.