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Re: Fleeing To The US ... A Word To The Wise. by franchasng: 12:15am On Jul 25, 2019
cococandy:
I’m not arguing with you about the might of America. You didn’t have to go into that long post to tell me something I already know.

Yet I’m telling you I love Canada on a more emotional level. You know that patriotism is also a feeling and that’s a feeling USA doesn’t evoke very much. (At least for me). And that’s the only area I love Canada more for.

Personally I’m just glad I can benefit from the USA and still experience Canada as often as I can when work allows.
OK, well understood
Re: Fleeing To The US ... A Word To The Wise. by Shaprara: 12:15am On Jul 25, 2019
Sirmuel1:



Keep deceiving yourself.
If you were a citizen in Canada, you won't talk this way
if Canada was a USA state canada would be proud especially not when they have that Trudeau as pm
Re: Fleeing To The US ... A Word To The Wise. by otherway: 12:15am On Jul 25, 2019
franchasng:
hahahahahaha, I can't apply for UK visa in the first place, when I can comfortably work in lol

I just hate UK for the wicked things they did in Nigeria; almagamating Southern Nigeria with blood-sucking, backward Northern Nigeria.

This is what they did in most black African nations; join enemies as one nation, which gave rise to civil wars and corruption and tribalism in black African nations and still they back these corrupt African leaders by welcoming their families in UK and harboring their stolen wealth from black African nations.

UK deserve more terrorist invasion than USA. All those terrorists were supposed to focus more on UK instead of empathetic, passionate USA kiss

I can see you are allowing sentiments to cloud your sense of Judgement...

I don't have time to argue with you. I live in U.K and I know what is obtainable in U.S and I can tell you categorically that U.S is no longer that great country that it use to be.

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Re: Fleeing To The US ... A Word To The Wise. by pansophist(m): 12:20am On Jul 25, 2019
franchasng:
Why do you think America is not the greatest country in the whole world today

Give reasons and facts.



See eh, I live in the Netherlands. I am so comfortable here that moving to the USA will reduce my quality of life. America has no public healthcare system, and healthcare is the number one reason for bankruptcy in the US, meanwhile here, even if my medical bills cost 100 million dollars, I won't pay a dime. It is completely free. Education is almost free, and as NL is a country of the EU, its citizens are entitled to live anywhere and access quality services like citizens there. Education in the Nordics are completely free, and I will take a course in maybe Sweden or Finland next year, and it will be completely free for me. An American ex that came to my uni for exchange could not believe that it was free for us to study, and she has close to 150k usd in student loan. Imagine starting life as a young adult with that amount owed to a bank, and it grows with interest. Just in case you do not know, student debt is a common cause of suicide in the US among young people.

The US is not safe, with the gun problems, I can't imagine raising a kid there. How about the foods? do I need to remind that the US is the most obese country in the world? Americans are fat because the food there is horrible. GMO in foods without the label. Over here, every foods has a label if its GMO or organic, so I know what I am eating. And I do not like that government spend money bombing other countries, policing the world and destabilizing smaller countries. Also, mobility in EU is so efficient. Go to ryanair.com, wizzair.com, or easyjet.com, you will see cheap flight for as little as 5euros to let's say the UK from Germany. Travelling is cheap, efficient and awesome. It is difficult for me not to travel at least once a month to a different country. In the winter if I need sun, the Spanish island in Africa, or Malta, or somewhere in Italy will do. Like snow? go to Scandinavia, the EU is like a giant, multicultural country, and I love it.

The US taxes its citizens on income they earn abroad. SO if you are an American working in the UK, you pay tax from your salary in the UK to the US. I am trying not to write a long sentence here, but if you wanna know exactly how I feel like a European to move to the US, read this thread on Quora, with European telling you why the US is a bad deal for to move to. I tell you in all honesty, I won't if you gave me an American passport. I can visit, but will never live there.

https://www.quora.com/Why-dont-we-have-more-people-from-countries-like-Norway-immigrating-to-America

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Re: Fleeing To The US ... A Word To The Wise. by ogbonti: 12:23am On Jul 25, 2019
Beautyaddy:


There is no need to scare people away from going to the US legally on a visiting or student visas.

After their three months legal stay in the US they can get an American to fall in love, marry and then can change their temporary status to permanent status via adjustment of status to obtain a green card. Unfortunately this is one of the weak US immigration loopholes that most visiting and student immigrants have used and are still using.


easier said than done.. do you think u will just marry and then they give u green card?

Once they interview you and your iyawo and something doesnt seem right, even to those who claim fell in love, that happens to them, and your adjustment petition is denied, they will put you on deportation proceedings immediately and the American who petitioned for you will be docked for perjury up to 10 years and or/ $10,000 fine... people i know that have suffered this fate are up to 20 Nigerians... u think visa interview is hard in Lagos? wait until you attend adjustment of status interview-----when those who have experienced it here tell their stories, your legs will freeze inside warm water out of fear

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Re: Fleeing To The US ... A Word To The Wise. by Yankee101: 12:23am On Jul 25, 2019
Omega30:
U would not wanna discuss Tech with me, cos u will be floored. Do I know Silicon Valley? Hmm, Silicon valley is in Palo Alto, California. And for your info:
Tel Aviv
Fiverr is an online marketplace for freelance services. Founded in 2010, the company is based in Tel Aviv, Israel, and provides a platform for freelancers to offer services to customers worldwide.

Try to discuss what u know, don't just blab.

And when it wants to go public it listed on the New York Stock Exchange?

Relax my guy.

Tech people full this forum. Starting up, Seed funding, hosting, listing, etc California alone is the 5th largest economy in the world.

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Re: Fleeing To The US ... A Word To The Wise. by Yankee101: 12:25am On Jul 25, 2019
needful:
As canadian Citizen and canada being number one in quality and standard of life, i will never dreamt of living in usa. Atleast i can sleep very well, knowing fully well that my next door neighbour doesnt have a gun. I dont even visit usa on vacation not to talk about living there. I prefer places like Paris, switzerland, neitherlands etc.

Cold ki you there!
Re: Fleeing To The US ... A Word To The Wise. by Godmind6: 12:25am On Jul 25, 2019
Wow

Re: Fleeing To The US ... A Word To The Wise. by franchasng: 12:25am On Jul 25, 2019
otherway:


I can see you are allowing sentiments to cloud your sense of Judgement...

I don't have time to argue with you. I live in U.K and I know what is obtainable in U.S and I can tell you categorically that U.S is no longer that great country that it use to be.
the only country coming close to America's greatness in terms of economy, military might and technology is China.


UK is nowhere near US. UK can only be compared to dying nations like Greece, Italy, Spain, etc not US.

The only benefit UK citizens benefit or can boast of is affordable healthcare and education, nothing else.

UK economy is clutching on straws as we speak, its dying a natural death.

In the next 50 years, UK will be worst then Italy and Greece so if u love your children's future please find ways to relocate them out of UK to more promising nations, don't say we didn't warn you.

Can you name or give reasons why UK should be on the list of great nations of the world of today

What rank do they occupy in military might

In economy strength

In employment rate

In housing fortune 500 firms

In number of billionaires

In entertainment

In Technology

Just name it!

You guys living in UK know what I am talking about; UK is living on past glory. The houses are getting aged, infrastructure is dying due to age, no more stolen money to rehabilitated or build new ones, confused government brexiting today, rebrexiting tomorrow and changing prime minister like diaper.

UK is just a useless country that terrorist ought to have leveled down long time ago.

They messed Nigeria and west Africa up by joining enemies together as one nation out of their stupid, wicked, selfish greed!! angry

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Re: Fleeing To The US ... A Word To The Wise. by AmNuhRegular(f): 12:26am On Jul 25, 2019
Lol. The first 3 to 10 comments were arguing about which is the best country in the world, people like us that have kuku not smelled any. All we can do is look grin

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Re: Fleeing To The US ... A Word To The Wise. by ogbonti: 12:27am On Jul 25, 2019
pansophist:


See eh, I live in the Netherlands. I am so comfortable here that moving to the USA will reduce my quality of life. America has no public healthcare system, and healthcare is the number one reason for bankruptcy in the US, meanwhile here, even if my medical bills cost 100 million dollars, I won't pay a dime. It is completely free. Education is almost free, and as NL is a country of the EU, its citizens are entitled to live anywhere and access quality services like citizens there. Education in the Nordics are completely free, and I will take a course in maybe Sweden or Finland next year, and it will be completely free for me. An American ex that came to my uni for exchange could not believe that it was free for us to study, and she has close to 150k usd in student loan. Imagine starting life as a young adult with that amount owed to a bank, and it grows with interest. Just in case you do not know, student debt is a common cause of suicide in the US among young people.

The US is not safe, with the gun problems, I can't imagine raising a kid there. How about the foods? do I need to remind that the US is the obese country in the world? Americans are fat because the food there is horrible. GMO in foods without the label. Over here, every foods has a label if its GMO or organic, so I know what I am eating. And I do not like that government spend money bombing other countries, policing the world and destabilizing smaller countries. Also, mobility in EU is so efficient. Go to ryanair.com, wizzair.com, or easyjet.com, you will see cheap flight for as little as 5euros to let's say the UK from Germany. Travelling is cheap, efficient and awesome. It is difficult for me not to travel at least once a month to a different country. In the winter if I need sun, the Spanish island in Africa, or Malta, or somewhere in Italy will do. Like snow? go to Scandinavia, the EU is like a giant, multicultural country, and I love it.

The US taxes its citizens on income they earn abroad. SO if you are an American working in the UK, you pay tax from your salary in the UK to the US. I am trying not to write a long sentence here, but if you wanna know exactly how I feel like a European to move to the US, read this thread on Quora, with European telling you why the US is a bad deal for to move to. I tell you in all honesty, I won't if you gave me an American passport. I can visit, but will never live there.

https://www.quora.com/Why-dont-we-have-more-people-from-countries-like-Norway-immigrating-to-America


every naija who lived in europe, visited the USA and never returned to EUROPE, why Sir?

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Re: Fleeing To The US ... A Word To The Wise. by Ugosample(m): 12:27am On Jul 25, 2019
Shaprara:
if Canada was a USA state canada would be proud especially not when they have that Trudeau as pm

why do you say that?
Re: Fleeing To The US ... A Word To The Wise. by ogbonti: 12:29am On Jul 25, 2019
franchasng:
the only country coming close to America's greatness in terms of economy, military might and technology is China.


UK is nowhere near US. UK can only be compared to dying nations like Greece, Italy, Spain, etc not US.

The only benefit UK citizens benefit or can boast of is [b]affordable healthcare [/b]and education, nothing else.

UK economy is clutching on straws as we speak, its dying a natural death.

In the next 50 years, UK will be worst then Italy and Greece so if u love your children's future please find ways to relocate them out of UK to more promising nations, don't say we didn't warn you.

Can you name or give reasons why UK should be on the list of great nations of the world of today

What rank do they occupy in military might

In economy strength

In employment rate

In housing fortune 500 firms

In number of billionaires

In entertainment

In Technology

Just name it!

You guys living in UK know what I am talking about; UK is living on past glory. The houses are getting aged, infrastructure is dying due to age, no more stolen money to rehabilitated or build new ones, confused government brexiting today, rebrexiting tomorrow and changing prime minister like diaper.

UK is just a useless country that terrorist ought to have leveled down long time ago.

They messed Nigeria and west Africa up by joining enemies together as one nation out of their stupid, wicked, selfish greed!! angry





and they all have dirty brown teeth including their assistant crown prince william, or their free heath care does not include dental care?

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Re: Fleeing To The US ... A Word To The Wise. by pansophist(m): 12:30am On Jul 25, 2019
ogbonti:



every Naija who lived in Europe, visited the USA and never returned to EUROPE, why Sir?

You will have to ask them why, as for me, it is not the case. From my observation, it is because they lack good status. Either they are students who couldn't extend their stay after studies, or they do not want to learn the local language and integrate, or they just like the idea of living in the USA. I also realize that many have this outdated mindset of ''the American dream'', But again, I have seen many that left the USA for Europe.

To each, his own.

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Re: Fleeing To The US ... A Word To The Wise. by Ugosample(m): 12:31am On Jul 25, 2019
ogbonti:



every naija who lived in europe, visited the USA and never returned to EUROPE, why Sir?

America has more opportunities
That's why

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Re: Fleeing To The US ... A Word To The Wise. by ogbonti: 12:31am On Jul 25, 2019
Shaprara:
if Canada was a USA state canada would be proud especially not when they have that Trudeau as pm


every african born canadian i know hate the USA, why ? I dont know -- they are constantly angry whenever USA is mentioned, I guess they are hating because they know Canada is inferior to USA

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Re: Fleeing To The US ... A Word To The Wise. by ogbonti: 12:32am On Jul 25, 2019
Ugosample:


America has more opportunities
That's why


God bless you, case closed!!!! grin

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Re: Fleeing To The US ... A Word To The Wise. by Ugosample(m): 12:32am On Jul 25, 2019
pansophist:


You will have to ask them why, as for me, it is not the case. From my observation, it is because they lack good status. Either they are students who couldn't extend their stay after studies, or they do not want to learn the local language and integrate, or they just like the idea of living in the USA. But again, I have seen many that left the USA for Europe. To each, his own.

America has its plus sides too
Europe has its as well
Re: Fleeing To The US ... A Word To The Wise. by Ugosample(m): 12:33am On Jul 25, 2019
ogbonti:



every african born canadian i know hate the USA, why ? I dont know -- they are constantly angry whenever USA is mentioned, I guess they are hating because they know Canada is inferior to USA

I won't say inferior tho

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Re: Fleeing To The US ... A Word To The Wise. by franchasng: 12:33am On Jul 25, 2019
pansophist:


See eh, I live in the Netherlands. I am so comfortable here that moving to the USA will reduce my quality of life. America has no public healthcare system, and healthcare is the number one reason for bankruptcy in the US, meanwhile here, even if my medical bills cost 100 million dollars, I won't pay a dime. It is completely free. Education is almost free, and as NL is a country of the EU, its citizens are entitled to live anywhere and access quality services like citizens there. Education in the Nordics are completely free, and I will take a course in maybe Sweden or Finland next year, and it will be completely free for me. An American ex that came to my uni for exchange could not believe that it was free for us to study, and she has close to 150k usd in student loan. Imagine starting life as a young adult with that amount owed to a bank, and it grows with interest. Just in case you do not know, student debt is a common cause of suicide in the US among young people.

The US is not safe, with the gun problems, I can't imagine raising a kid there. How about the foods? do I need to remind that the US is the most obese country in the world? Americans are fat because the food there is horrible. GMO in foods without the label. Over here, every foods has a label if its GMO or organic, so I know what I am eating. And I do not like that government spend money bombing other countries, policing the world and destabilizing smaller countries. Also, mobility in EU is so efficient. Go to ryanair.com, wizzair.com, or easyjet.com, you will see cheap flight for as little as 5euros to let's say the UK from Germany. Travelling is cheap, efficient and awesome. It is difficult for me not to travel at least once a month to a different country. In the winter if I need sun, the Spanish island in Africa, or Malta, or somewhere in Italy will do. Like snow? go to Scandinavia, the EU is like a giant, multicultural country, and I love it.

The US taxes its citizens on income they earn abroad. SO if you are an American working in the UK, you pay tax from your salary in the UK to the US. I am trying not to write a long sentence here, but if you wanna know exactly how I feel like a European to move to the US, read this thread on Quora, with European telling you why the US is a bad deal for to move to. I tell you in all honesty, I won't if you gave me an American passport. I can visit, but will never live there.

https://www.quora.com/Why-dont-we-have-more-people-from-countries-like-Norway-immigrating-to-America
Netherlands is far below US to even compare.

The airport looked so old and close to dirty like African airports angry

Netherlands is a small country with small population, so there is no need to compare because Netherlands is like Nevada in US angry

One can use bicycle to circle round Netherlands in one day tongue

Healthcare is costly in US, yes I agree.

Education too is but Americans afford it and end up great and richer than Europeans who attend free eduction and free healthcare, so what's the need

Where is all the money you Europeans saved if at the end we can't find you guys among top billionaires

Only few Europeans are billionaires, while America produces almost 70% of worlds billionaires and richest people, so what's the need for the free education and free healthcare in Europe

US is the greatest country on earth as at now, take or or leave it!

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Re: Fleeing To The US ... A Word To The Wise. by ogbonti: 12:33am On Jul 25, 2019
pansophist:


You will have to ask them why, as for me, it is not the case. From my observation, it is because they lack good status. Either they are students who couldn't extend their stay after studies, or they do not want to learn the local language and integrate, or they just like the idea of living in the USA. But again, I have seen many that left the USA for Europe. To each, his own.


shorrop there.... like someone left Abuja to go settle at Idanre Hills, when him no dey craze, abi?

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Re: Fleeing To The US ... A Word To The Wise. by mchc1001: 12:34am On Jul 25, 2019
Germany is far ahead of Russia my Friend, the only thing that make Russia great is nuclear weapon, apart from that Russia is not match to Germany
Atigba:


Are you aright?

Which technology are in Germany or economy

The US economy is bigger than the whole EU countries

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Re: Fleeing To The US ... A Word To The Wise. by naijjaman(m): 12:34am On Jul 25, 2019
salford1:

I am a Citizen of Canada, and he is right. USA is indeed the greatest country in the world. grin

I have learnt to separate patriotism from reality.

Let's make a switch or trade sides. I like the free healthcare in Canada better than the crap we have here. Beside trump and healthcare, I agree with you that it's the greatest and will always be the greatest Country.
Re: Fleeing To The US ... A Word To The Wise. by hybridblood07(m): 12:34am On Jul 25, 2019
Better than Canada?
pussyeater:

It's the Greatest Country on earth. Take it or leave it!!!
Re: Fleeing To The US ... A Word To The Wise. by nairalanduseles: 12:35am On Jul 25, 2019
pussyeater:

It's the Greatest Country on earth. Take it or leave it!!!


Australia is the best
Better health care
Better wages

Don't fool urself

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Re: Fleeing To The US ... A Word To The Wise. by ogbonti: 12:35am On Jul 25, 2019
Ugosample:


I won't say inferior tho

Canada is superior to many European countries but INFERIOR to the USA

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Re: Fleeing To The US ... A Word To The Wise. by TSRC: 12:36am On Jul 25, 2019
Germany is highly underrated.

Germany and Japan. The greatest countries in the world in real terms.

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Re: Fleeing To The US ... A Word To The Wise. by babzo(m): 12:36am On Jul 25, 2019
otherway:


I can see you are allowing sentiments to cloud your sense of Judgement...

I don't have time to argue with you. I live in U.K and I know what is obtainable in U.S and I can tell you categorically that U.S is no longer that great country that it use to be.

But still the greatest
Re: Fleeing To The US ... A Word To The Wise. by ogbonti: 12:37am On Jul 25, 2019
NONNYG:
yes ooo, he went on vacation in New York and then adjusted his status ; probably by marrying akatagrin


TO MARRY EASY- to get green card na wahala oooooo

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Re: Fleeing To The US ... A Word To The Wise. by naijjaman(m): 12:37am On Jul 25, 2019
nairalanduseles:



Australia is the best
Better health care
Better wages

Don't fool urself

What's the minimum wage of Australia?
It's $15 per hour in NY for the lowest level employee cheesy
Re: Fleeing To The US ... A Word To The Wise. by zigzagluv: 12:37am On Jul 25, 2019
pussyeater:

It's the Greatest Country on earth. Take it or leave it!!!

is not the greatest country on earth, if you ever found yourself in Norway , new Zealand or Australia , you will know USA is a shithole country , full of violence

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Re: Fleeing To The US ... A Word To The Wise. by nairalanduseles: 12:38am On Jul 25, 2019
naijjaman:


What's the minimum wage of Australia?
It's $15 per hour in NY for the lowest level employee cheesy

It's $18.99 and lots of people from the states are I Sydney working ...fact
All on working holiday visa

Least pay u will get here working even as a labourer is $25 an hour

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