I sincerely appreciate all the men of God who have decided to be God's vessels.However, God is going to require the blood of most church members from the hands of their pastors.
We know that these days people want to hear prophecy not preaching and most pastors are using the medium to enrich themselves by telling the people to activate the prophecy by sowing seed. Jesus Christ told his disciples to go and "preach"not go prophecy and get money.Don't misunderstand me, Church members can give pastors money but it's not like trade by barter.
The crime rate in the nation is still high despite the number of churches around ,because our pastors hype seed sowing,fasting and prayers.These are essential but the first is salvation. imagine, a boy that just finished three days dry fasting last week is still having condoms in his wallet.Imagine a man that sowed a seed of One million naira last Sunday steals public fund and is cheating on his wife.Imagine the woman that is on seven days fasting (six to six) is fighting in the market. Imagine a girl singing in the choir is still living with her boyfriend and is carrying an unwanted pregnancy.
It's not easy though, but our pastors should still try and care about the spiritual warfare of their members before asking for money.

They won't ... for reasons that are clear to all.

Any Pastor whose Primary Message is not on GENUIE Salvation is a SCAMMER..

Why?

The Owner of The Church is JESUS CHRIST...

The Primary Purpose of The Owner of the Church ( JESUS CHRIST) is to Seek and Save The Lost...

Wealth , Good Health , Good Homes and Blessings are all Attached to Salvation, I.e Having JESUS CHRIST..


It's soooo Unfortunate at what we see in some places today in the name of Church...

Money! Money! Money! A lot of people have taken Acqusition of Money to Be Salvation...


Many People will Beat up Their pastors on the day of Rapture....

Righteousness89:
Any Pastor whose Primary Message is not on GENUIE Salvation is a SCAMMER..

Why?

The Owner of The Church is JESUS CHRIST...

The Primary Purpose of The Owner of the Church ( JESUS CHRIST) is to Seek and Save The Lost...

Wealth , Good Health , Good Homes and Blessings are all Attached to Salvation, I.e Having JESUS CHRIST..


It's soooo Unfortunate at what we see in some places today in the name of Church...

Money! Money! Money! A lot of people have taken Acqusition of Money to Be Salvation...


Many People will Beat up Their pastors on the day of Rapture....

I agree on everything you said but disagree on the highlight above. Those things are not exclusive attached to having Christ. Unbelievers, unsaved, atheist, etc do have those things too without having Christ. So a believe MIGHT or MIGHT NOT have those those in Christ.

It is as a result of false doctrines. I don’t blame the pastors, when you have believers that don’t read the Bible. A lot of believers this days are pastors worshipers that takes the word pastors above the word of God.

If church members are fond of worshipping the pastors, then the pastor should direct their (the members) attention to God.
I am not blaming pastors though but if we continue like this very soon nobody will be interested in the Bible truth anymore.

Goshen360:


I agree on everything you said but disagree on the highlight above. Those things are not exclusive attached to having Christ. Unbelievers, unsaved, atheist, etc do have those things too without having Christ. So a believe MIGHT or MIGHT NOT have those those in Christ.

The Earth and Everything on Earth belongs to GOD
There are Laid down Principles Given by GOD to Having The Blessings... Gen8:22...


Everyone who Practices the Principle is a candidate for the Blessings Irrespective of who you are..

As a Child GOD , we are at an Advantage...
The Blessing is Protected and Preserved as a Child of GOD

The Blessing is not by Struggle as a Child of GOD.. Matt 6:33

The Blessing comes with Guaranteed PEACE as a Child of GOD..

The Blessing adds no sorrow as a Child of GOD..Provb 10:22

The Blessing comes with Guarantee of Eternal Rest as A Child of GOD

Church is not for the unsaved people. It is for people who are already saved and have eternal life which means they can never lose their salvation.

The saved people only go to Church so they can learn how to live their lives according to the Bible. You can't expect the pastor to keep repeating salvation message when they are already saved. What he does is teach them how to be a good husband, good wife, good child, good worker and also how to make disciples of all men.

But all these modern churches are only geered towards the unsaved people. That's why you see them with so much entertainment, purple lights atmosphere, disco, drama, all just to keep the unsaved entertained. But when it comes to the preaching, it is junk, just prosperity gospel. No message on obeying God's commandments to abstain from sin. They gather the unsaved together and scam them of their money

Some may ask: But how can you get the people saved if you don't apply entertainment to attract them to church?

Was that how Jesus got many people saved? Jesus didn't use entertainment. He simply sent his disciples out in twos to go preach to people. After they were saved, they all came to him to learn how to live their lives. That's when Jesus gave them sermons on how to love their neighbors and enemies etc.

But today, these fake pastors who don't believe in God don't care about soul winning. That's why instead of going out to win souls and bring them back to church, they simply set up a wonderful entertainment centre filled with sexy girls, handsome guys, music, dancing and everything necessary to attract a fleshy minded person .

The aim is to scam them of their money.

Righteousness89:


The Earth and Everything on Earth belongs to GOD
There are Laid down Principles Given by GOD to Having The Blessings... Gen8:22...


Everyone who Practices the Principle is a candidate for the Blessings Irrespective of who you are..

As a Child GOD , we are at an Advantage...
The Blessing is Protected and Preserved as a Child of GOD

The Blessing is not by Struggle as a Child of GOD.. Matt 6:33

The Blessing comes with Guaranteed PEACE as a Child of GOD..

The Blessing adds no sorrow as a Child of GOD..Provb 10:22

The Blessing comes with Guarantee of Eternal Rest as A Child of GOD

Again all what you said is correct BUT....my point is, the fact that someone has Christ as Lord and Savior and believe as Christian DOESN'T mean he or she will be wealthy, or drive super wealthy cars etc according to your initial first comment.

Also, cars, wealth, etc ARE NOT THE BLESSINGS in Christ. If cars and wealth are the blessings, Atheist, Muslims, unbelievers have that too. Anyone APART FROM BEING A CHRISTIAN CAN BE WEALTHY, DRIVE EXPENSIVE CARS, BUILD MANSION etc.

That's my point!

alBHAGDADI:

Church is not for the unsaved people. It is for people who are already saved and have eternal life which means they can never lose their salvation.

The saved people only go to Church so they can learn how to live their lives according to the Bible. You can't expect the pastor to keep repeating salvation message when they are already saved. What he does is teach them how to be a good husband, good wife, good child, good worker and also how to make disciples of all men.

But all these modern churches are only geered towards the unsaved people. That's why you see them with so much entertainment, purple lights atmosphere, disco, drama, all just to keep the unsaved entertained. But when it comes to the preaching, it is junk, just prosperity gospel. No message on obeying God's commandments to abstain from sin. They gather the unsaved together and scam them of their money

Some may ask: But how can you get the people saved if you don't apply entertainment to attract them to church?

Was that how Jesus got many people saved? Jesus didn't use entertainment. He simply sent his disciples out in twos to go preach to people. After they were saved, they all came to him to learn how to live their lives. That's when Jesus gave them sermons on how to love their neighbors and enemies etc.

But today, these fake pastors who don't believe in God don't care about soul winning. That's why instead of going out to win souls and bring them back to church, they simply set up a wonderful entertainment centre filled with sexy girls, handsome guys, music, dancing and everything necessary to attract a fleshy minded person .

The aim is to scam them of their money.

I agree with you on going out to win souls by evangelism. I also agree with you on wrong methods used by modern churches to entertain the unsaved BUT It is outright ERROR to say that the church of Jesus is NOT FOR THE UNSAVED. I don't understand or know where you got that ERROR from but that's unscriptural.

The church of Jesus is for SINNERS to come and BE SAVED!

KAMSY2019:
I sincerely appreciate all the men of God who have decided to be God's vessels.However, God is going to require the blood of most church members from the hands of their pastors.
We know that these days people want to hear prophecy not preaching and most pastors are using the medium to enrich themselves by telling the people to activate the prophecy by sowing seed. Jesus Christ told his disciples to go and "preach"not go prophecy and get money.Don't misunderstand me, Church members can give pastors money but it's not like trade by barter.
The crime rate in the nation is still high despite the number of churches around ,because our pastors hype seed sowing,fasting and prayers.These are essential but the first is salvation. imagine, a boy that just finished three days dry fasting last week is still having condoms in his wallet.Imagine a man that sowed a seed of One million naira last Sunday steals public fund and is cheating on his wife.Imagine the woman that is on seven days fasting (six to six) is fighting in the market. Imagine a girl singing in the choir is still living with her boyfriend and is carrying an unwanted pregnancy.
It's not easy though, but our pastors should still try and care about the spiritual warfare of their members before asking for money.

what do you expect when sin is no longer exposed as sin? Those pastors that do not care for the salvation of souls are not saved themselves. They teach people about their church doctrine/dogma but do not teach them about christ.

People will not know how sinful they are and how they need Jesus christ. if sin and its consequences are not preached and cross of Jesus uphold as the solution to man's sin problem how will they receive christ?

The problem of the world is sin? It is not riches or poverty.
Jesus performed miracles so that people can know who he is as the saviour the solution of man's sin problem but instead of coming to to him they come for miracles.

Goshen360:


I agree with you on going out to win souls by evangelism. I also agree with you on wrong methods used by modern churches to entertain the unsaved BUT It is outright ERROR to say that the church of Jesus is NOT FOR THE UNSAVED. I don't understand or know where you got that ERROR from but that's unscriptural.

The church of Jesus is for SINNERS to come and BE SAVED!

No, the church of Jesus Christ which is his body is a gathering of the saved, not the unsaved. Church is another word for congregation which is a gathering of God's people. It is not for the unsaved even though an unsaved person can walk in.

Jesus said we should go out there and get people saved. He didn't say we should bring them to church as unsaved people.

@bold

The church of Jesus is not for sinners. It is for the saved, his sheep who follow him. Take away entertainment from church and put in hardcore red hot preaching, you will see that the unsaved won't even go there. That's to show you that it is not for them. But because false prophets want money and they know that they can't scam a saved person, they apply entertainment which they use to attract unsaved people whom they are able to scam.

alBHAGDADI:


No, the church of Jesus Christ which is his body is a gathering of the saved, not the unsaved. Church is another word for congregation which is a gathering of God's people. It is not for the unsaved even though an unsaved person can walk in.

Jesus said we should go out there and get people saved. He didn't say we should bring them to church as unsaved people.

@bold

The church of Jesus is not for sinners. It is for the saved, his sheep who follow him. Take away entertainment from church and put in hardcore red hot preaching, you will see that the unsaved won't even go there. That's to show you that it is not for them. But because false prophets want money and they know that they can't scam a saved person, they apply entertainment which they use to attract unsaved people whom they are able to scam.

You are not making sense scripturally. You just said "even though unsaved can walk in". Unsaved can come to the Lord BUT THEY'RE NOT TO REMAIN UNSAVED. Christ said, an unsick person doesn't need no physician.

You can go ahead and show from scriptures that only the saved are in the Church of Jesus.

Goshen360:


Again all what you said is correct BUT....my point is, the fact that someone has Christ as Lord and Savior and believe as Christian DOESN'T mean he or she will be wealthy, or drive super wealthy cars etc according to your initial first comment.

Also, cars, wealth, etc ARE NOT THE BLESSINGS in Christ. If cars and wealth are the blessings, Atheist, Muslims, unbelievers have that too. Anyone APART FROM BEING A CHRISTIAN CAN BE WEALTHY, DRIVE EXPENSIVE CARS, BUILD MANSION etc.

That's my point!

What is your Definition of Wealth?

Every Child of GOD with the Knowledge of GOD is Ordained to be Wealthy

Different people looking for a way to bring down Christianity but they think they are helping it to improve. Smh

Do you know it's part of these tithe and seed offerings that the church use to take care of its needs? Needs like good chairs in the church, fan or AC, painting of the church and providing for the needy.

All in a bid to make the society better

7thLemonLOVER:
Different people looking for a way to bring down Christianity but they think they are helping it to improve. Smh

Do you know it's part of these tithe and seed offerings that the church use to take care of its needs? Needs like good chairs in the church, fan or AC, painting of the church and providing for the needy.

All in a bid to make the society better

I believe in tithe and offering. The devil is trying to starve the church of money but he is has failed already. Using various online platforms to sway unrooted Christians.

Goshen360:


You are not making sense scripturally. You just said "even though unsaved can walk in". Unsaved can come to the Lord BUT THEY'RE NOT TO REMAIN UNSAVED. Christ said, an unsick person doesn't need no physician.

You can go ahead and show from scriptures that only the saved are in the Church of Jesus.

Ask yourself, what is the church? It is the body of Christ full of saints. Unsaved people don't belong there even though they are not unwelcomed. Or do you want to tell me that unsaved people are also part of the body Christ? No, cos that will be a blemish.

The reason why unsaved people don't go to a true church is because they won't understand the preaching. The preaching is spiritual and not made for fleshy people. But an unsaved church is where their home is because the spiritual word doesn't get preached there but the sensual words to entertain them.