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|Re: Peace And Safety, The Rapture Is Here by PrecisionFx(m): 4:56pm On Aug 04|
Give me any proof of ur demons sir
|Re: Peace And Safety, The Rapture Is Here by obentenyson(m): 4:57pm On Aug 04|
MrPresident1:can you please tell me the name of the man, the son of perdition that will declare false Peace and safety....?
|Re: Peace And Safety, The Rapture Is Here by PrecisionFx(m): 4:58pm On Aug 04|
So how does this nonsense mean that Bible said rapture will happen wen 3rd world war ends
|Re: Peace And Safety, The Rapture Is Here by DavidEsq(m): 4:58pm On Aug 04|
obentenyson:What is the meaning of anti-christ? An opposer of Christ. Haven't there always been opposers of Christ from time immemorial till date? What exactly did the bible say the "antichrist" would do, that Obama did? If Obama didn't do them, do u see that ur belief in such an antichrist is flawed? In fact, to even rely on "some ppl" rather than the bible is a major flaw of Christian belief on ur part. The bible makes it very clear both in Matthew 24:3-14, revelation, etc, on wat signs of the end are. U do not wish to look out for them at all. Rather u are looking out for scintillating stories, which 2 Timothy 4:4 warns us about. First, did Jesus not say in Matthew 24:14 that a particular thing would be preached about before the end would come?
|Re: Peace And Safety, The Rapture Is Here by MrPresident1: 4:59pm On Aug 04|
Check my thread on the wall
All things have been fulfilled. This thread is only an alert for those that have been watching consistently.
|Re: Peace And Safety, The Rapture Is Here by obentenyson(m): 5:00pm On Aug 04|
PrecisionFx:You want proof? OK.. visit ikorodu while they are doing their oro festival at midnight.. or the fastest way to confirm, commit suicide and see with your own eyes how demons will hastily come to collect your soul in no time.. only a Fool says there is no God..
|Re: Peace And Safety, The Rapture Is Here by DavidEsq(m): 5:09pm On Aug 04|
obentenyson:The bible didn't say a man would declare "peace and safety". It says "THEY", which is the world empire of political rulership, which is the UN. If u hav been following the trend of world politics, u would see a general disarmament of nuclear weapons going on. Even that man who eat black indomie (Kim Jong Yun-North Korean Oga) is already taking part in this peace talks. If u look at Isaiah 2:4 it says this: "They will beat their swords into plowshares And their spears into pruning shears. Nation will not lift up sword against nation,Nor will they learn war anymore". That verse was handpicked by the UN and misinterpreted to mean "world peace". That is, peace in this present world of Satan's rulership. That verse is inscribed on the UN building. That is the same UN or world political force that would declare world peace and not "one man" as u are putting it.
|Re: Peace And Safety, The Rapture Is Here by obentenyson(m): 5:15pm On Aug 04|
DavidEsq:If you actually read my post carefully without just doing so just reply my post, then you will know that I put those words in quote. and common sense will tell that none of the words there said I believe Obama is the antichrist.. Notice I John 2:18: "Little children, it is the last hour; and as you have a heard that the Antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come, by which we know that it is the last hour." 2 Thessalonians is talking about a specific antichrist, even that verse made it clear that there are many antichrist in the world. the spirit of antichrist is already in the world no doubt but the book of Thessalonians, Daniel revelation n the rest are talking about a specific man... A false god, a false christ who will deceive the whole world into worshipping him and receiving his mark... the Bible isn't that complicated... Everything is made clear...
II John 7: "For many deceivers have gone out into the world, who do not confess l Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist."
However, it is clear from other passages that there will be one
particular Antichrist, who will appear on the world scene
shortly before the return of Jesus Christ (see Revelation 13; 17; 19:17-21; Daniel 11:29-45 ; II Thessalonians 2:1-12 ).
|Re: Peace And Safety, The Rapture Is Here by DavidEsq(m): 5:16pm On Aug 04|
obentenyson:The book of Genesis tells us that man is a soul himself; not that man has a soul. Genesis 2:7. The Greek meaning of soul (since una dey like big grammar) means "nephesh" which means "breathing creature". So man became a breathing creature when God breathed the breath of life into his nostrils. That is why psalm 146:4 tells us that "in the day a man dies, his thoughts perish". U statement that "see if demons would not take ur soul" means the person who has died is still conscious, but Psalms 146:4 tell us that a man's thoughts perish wen he dies. Thoughts, we all know is the ability to be conscious of ourselves but the bible tells us they perish when we die. In fact, ecclesiastics 9:5,6 tell us that when we die, we are no more conscious, hence it says that "the dead know nothing at all........and all their love, hate and jealousy perishes" when they die. So wr did u get this ideology from. In fact u are painting God as a wicked person who uses fear to command respect and obedience from mankind, which is not true.
|Re: Peace And Safety, The Rapture Is Here by obentenyson(m): 5:21pm On Aug 04|
PrecisionFx:I believe he didn't use it to reply you on the ww3 issue but another matter entirely... maybe if u read that verse you might get what he was trying to say to you..... or you can simply ask him.. I only posted it to shoe you that that verse is in the bible contrary to what you said... and calling the word of God nonsense means u are saying God doesn't know what He's saying.. in other words you have set yourself in opposition with God.. And it's not going to be a funny story if you don't repent from that statement..
|Re: Peace And Safety, The Rapture Is Here by obentenyson(m): 5:33pm On Aug 04|
DavidEsq:dude it's like you have a very big problem and it's called misunderstanding and gbeborun.. first of, that comment was for the guy that said demons don't exist... you don't need to open book of lamentation n start lecturing me on something that didn't concern you... yes I know Man is a soul n that he has a body.. that comment is for a sinner that denies God doesn't exist... And no where in my post did it say God will take the guys soul to Hell. please sir learn to read n understand first before making attempt to reply or simply just mind your business. Have a goodday. moreover the word of God is simple. and plain. if u like say ehn someone is trying to scare you na u k ow wetin you do wey dey make u fear.. Hell is place of torment it's simple n clear in d Bible Jesus talked about it several times but people like you who are always preaching, everything is alright nothing to worry about, ones saved always saved, pervert the message n risk other precious souls to Hell by making them comfortable in their sins n telling them there is peace where there isn't. I pity u n ur followers.
|Re: Peace And Safety, The Rapture Is Here by PrecisionFx(m): 5:36pm On Aug 04|
That was his reply on the world war 3 ish.
He said obadiah 2 : 3, which is meaningless because obadiah has only one chapter.
""And it's not going to be a funny story if you don't repent from that statement..'"
Cheap scare tactics, I don't respond to such.
"and calling the word of God nonsense means u are saying God doesn't know what He's saying.. in other words you have set yourself in opposition with God."
More like it God.....Every human do not believe in ur preferred version of God u know
|Re: Peace And Safety, The Rapture Is Here by obentenyson(m): 5:40pm On Aug 04|
PrecisionFx:No one is scaring you. if you feel it's a scare tactics then something is wrong with you.. get your house in other....
|Re: Peace And Safety, The Rapture Is Here by MrPresident1: 6:04pm On Aug 04|
Thou shalt arise, and have mercy upon Zion: for the time to favour her, yea, the set time, is come.
Father, arise and Favour Zion, the dearly beloved of your soul, your beautiful dwelling place, your perfection of beauty, how much longer oh LORD, will you endure this hideous pain?
Arise O LORD, like a mighty flood, and swallow up all your enemies, and set Zion on high. Do not forget David, and the covenant you have made with him forever
Arise OH LORD, it is time
|Re: Peace And Safety, The Rapture Is Here by DavidEsq(m): 6:11pm On Aug 04|
obentenyson:Before I pick and read the last scriptures u cited, which I would do, unlike u who doesn't bother to read the ones I show u, let me first point out something u have looked away from, probably in a bid to "win a debate": that book of 2 John 7 identifies the antichrist as a world group of false religion who are deceivers. Have u thought deeply about that? Is there any worse situation than being deceived from the truth? Why then are u looking for a bigger baba antichrist, when the false preachers have been identified as the antichrist? Do u feel any bigger damage can be done to mankind than to be deceived? Was it not deceit that led to the fall of man in the first place? Teaching a doctrine that doesn't conform with the bible truth is antichrist and the bible has identified that. Now let me go on to the next bolden.
Do u now see ur grave confusion? Pardon my harsh use of that word, but if I may ask, did u see verse 18 of Revelation 13? It clearly tells us that the number of the beast is a MAN's number, which means it is not a demon's number. Rather, it is something that can be found with men. That is to say, it is man that is responsible for the use and enforcement of that number. U skipped that verse and I believe it was because u are trying to win the debate rather than reason from the scriptures. Now, verses 16 and 17 tell us that ALL persons on earth are being forced to receive the mark, either on their foreheads or right hand. If th number is that of a man, what exactly is that number? And since it is ALL that are being compelled to receive the number, what is that thing that all must do, if not they would not be able to buy of sell?
U agree with me that buying or selling means everyday survival and that was the prevalent means of survival in the days of John who wrote that book. Today, a lot of Christians ar being compelled to compromise God' moral standards or forfeit their means for survival. Currently, u cannot go into a lot of endeavours with first being a cultist or identifying with a type of behaviour that is against the bible. I know someone who would never do anything good for me, until I decide to join his confraternity. If a lady ha to get a job today, she has to compromise her body, same goes for female students, footballers, and a whole lot. In fact, in the fashion industry, I mean the big industry, u have to let go of some virtues; even having to suck a d1ck as a guy. Oh yes! In the general market of petty trading, if ur measuring cup is not beaten inwards at th bottom, u would be frustrated by the market unions who believe u are "spoiling" their business. If u don't have a boyfriend as a lady or a girlfriend as a guy, ur unbelieving peers would make u feel like an outcast. Even the adults would join in the mockery and pressure on u. Being a virgin boy o girl nowadays is now seen as a mark of naivete. If u oppose "expo" during exams as a teacher or invigilator, ur life would be terribly frustrated by the same school authority. In fact, they would transfer u to that part o the state where malaria or insecurity would quickly kill u. In all these challenging situations, one thing runs thru them: "situations that make it extreme difficult to survive in this world" and it caused or spearheaded by men. Who do these situations affect? Mankind in general and not just Christians alone. Do u remember a certain artiste who immediately after he wore a yellow beret, his musical career suddenly shot up? U don't wanna know wat that colour of beret stands for. That is why it is identified in verse 18 of Revelation 13 as the number of a man. There is another reason it is the number of a man. We would talk about that shortly.
|Re: Peace And Safety, The Rapture Is Here by DavidEsq(m): 6:48pm On Aug 04|
obentenyson:At the first bolden, do u see you are filled with strife. That ur comment was directed at another, does it preclude others from responding to it when u put it on a public forum?
At the second bolden, can u point out where I said that in my post?
At the 3rd bolden: Did Jesus ever make any illustration without reference to a known object or ideology on earth? If Jesus talked about hell, did u realise that there was a place at that time called Gehenna? History talks about that place. U should look it up on Google. U would realise he was talking about permanent destruction. That is why Jude 7 says: "In the same manner, Sodʹom and Go·morʹrah and the cities around them also gave themselves over to gross sexual immorality and pursued unnatural fleshly desires; they are placed before us as a warning example by undergoing the judicial punishment of everlasting fire".
If Sodom and Gomorrah are not still burning till date, yet their destruction is described as "suffering everlasting fire", why arent they still burning? It was physical event and that scripture says the event is an example of wat is to come. What is an example? Mathematics tells us that if we go beyond or below an example, we would miss the point or answer. Taking Jude 7 as it says, there is nothing as a fire blazing forever and ever. By the way, why wasn't that fire talked about in the "old" testament. Was hell fire just created during Jesus time? Ha! It must be . By the way, your state of paranoia is beginning to show ur true nature.
Daniel 11:29-45 speaks of earthly wars and conquest. In fact, verse 31 is more apt, as it talks about the invasion of Jerusalem by the Romans, which Jesus Christ in Matthew 24:15, quoted thus: “Therefore, when you catch sight of the disgusting thing that causes desolation, as spoken about by Daniel the prophet, standing in a holy place (let the reader use discernment),".
It was a prophecy of the desolation of the jewish nation. That is why in Matthew 24:16, Jesus went on to say: "then let those in Ju·deʹa begin fleeing to the mountains". That prophecy came to pass in 70 AD when the Romans surrounded Jerusalem with a fence made from tree cut from around Jerusalem and entered Jerusalem and desecrated it. The Romans represent the disgusting thing standing in the holy place. It had nothing to do with "the antichrist in the way u painted it".
|Re: Peace And Safety, The Rapture Is Here by inyenejo(m): 6:48pm On Aug 04|
Thank u Jesus for making me a heaven's candidate
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|Re: Peace And Safety, The Rapture Is Here by DavidEsq(m): 6:54pm On Aug 04|
obentenyson:That u deemed it fit not to read up those cited scriptures up there, only shows how low u consider God's word
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|Re: Peace And Safety, The Rapture Is Here by Hoodbilonia: 8:00pm On Aug 04|
|Re: Peace And Safety, The Rapture Is Here by PrecisionFx(m): 9:54pm On Aug 04|
I don't need to get my house in order, I don't have anything to do with ur religion n I am obviously not scared of ur God. U passed down scare tactics n I corrected u not to use such as a basis for anything
|Re: Peace And Safety, The Rapture Is Here by DavidEsq(m): 10:38pm On Aug 04|
Oga pastor, u say the beast in Revelation 13 is the son of perdition, that is, the devil, which u also called the baba antichrist and that the devil (beast) forces peeps to receive the mark and that the Antichrist would soon show up. Now let's see if that beast is the soon-to-come antichrist. Revelation 13:1 describes the beast as having seven heads. Verse 2 describes the beast as having the features of a leopard, bear and lion. Let's what this beast is:
In the book of Daniel 7:2, describes beasts rising out of the sea, just as John saw, hundreds of years later, in revelation 13:1. Now verse 4, 5 and 6 of Daniel chap 7 describes each of the beasts in those verses as having the semblance of a lion, a bear and a leopard and verse 7 shows another beast having 10 horns. U can see that both beasts in Daniel and John's visions are alike (that's scriptural uniformity, which is that the bible doesn't contradict itself)Does the bible tell us who or what these beasts are? Oh yeah! Get ur seat belts on: In Daniel 7:16,17, this is wat it says:
"I went near to one of those who were standing there to ask him about the true meaning of this. So he replied and made known to me the interpretation of these things. 17 “‘These huge beasts, four in number, are four kings who will stand up from the earth".
The beasts clearly represent governments on earth. Now the last part of verse 4 of Revelation 13 tells us that the dragon gave power and authority to the beast. It means that there are two entities here: the dragon and the beast(s). Who is the dragon? Revelation 12:9 describes the dragon as the devil, Satan, the original serpent, who misleads the whole world. So u see here? The beast(s) is not what u call the soon-to-come antichrist. It is the very government of this world. The dragon giving power and authority to the beast to rule shows that world government do not derive their support from God. In Luke 4:6, the bible tells us that the authorities and Kingdoms of this world is in the devil's hands and he gives it to whomever he wishes. Is that true? In John 12:31 this is what Jesus said: "Now there is a judging of this world; now the ruler of this world will be cast out". John 14:30, John 16:11, etc all confirm this fact. So if according to u, the beast is the antichrist, u are not wrong but u are wrong to say the antichrist is yet to come. He has been here from time. To also describe th beast and the devil to be one and the same is wrong, because u would be saying that the devil gave power to himself to rule, which would b wrong, in view of Revelation 13:2. In fact, one of the beasts (Rome) was responsible for Jesus' death (that's not to say we should spite them, Heck no) but we must respect the government as Romans 13:1 tells us. I would encourage u to further read Daniel 7:10-14 an u would be amazed on wat is to come in the nearest future. A mind set to be resistant, quarrelsome and all knowing, will never know anything.
|Re: Peace And Safety, The Rapture Is Here by DavidEsq(m): 10:40pm On Aug 04|
PrecisionFx:Dont mind the goathead. God doesn't use scare tactics on anyone. The dude is just self conceited.
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|Re: Peace And Safety, The Rapture Is Here by obentenyson(m): 8:25am On Aug 05|
|Re: Peace And Safety, The Rapture Is Here by hahn(m): 10:21am On Aug 05|
I will insult you again in October
|Re: Peace And Safety, The Rapture Is Here by MrPresident1: 7:19pm On Aug 05|
Peace and safety have probably been declared
|Re: Peace And Safety, The Rapture Is Here by Truthsbitter: 7:58am On Aug 06|
MrPresident1:God bless you for your effort.
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|Re: Peace And Safety, The Rapture Is Here by maak400: 10:58am On Aug 06|
This guy is always giving different dates of rapture. Are you God? Even Jesus Christ said no one knows the day except God. You’re sinning by giving fake rapture dates, lies from your anus. It is better to preach repentance rather than giving fake rapture dates up and down. No one is taking you serious again.
Let everyone follow God and obey His commandments, that’s the whole duty of man.
|Re: Peace And Safety, The Rapture Is Here by MrPresident1: 6:57pm On Aug 07|
White supremacy is the ideological basis for all the violence in the world, it was never Islam.
By denouncing hatred and racism which are the cornerstones of the white supremacist ideology and doctrine, President Trump has declared PEACE and SAFETY to the world.
This is the fulfillment of the very last prophecy before the coming of Christ.
1 Thessalonians 5:3
For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.
|Re: Peace And Safety, The Rapture Is Here by MrPresident1: 6:58pm On Aug 07|
''Hatred has no place in America, Hatred warps the mind, ravages the heart and devours the soul''
President Donald Trump
Because thou hast had a perpetual hatred, and hast shed the blood of the children of Israel by the force of the sword in the time of their calamity, in the time that their iniquity had an end:
This declaration is the end of all hatred and bloodshed. This speech is the declaration of Peace and Safety.
Perpetual hatred has ended. Now is recompense time.
Vengeance is mine, saith the LORD
|Re: Peace And Safety, The Rapture Is Here by MrPresident1: 6:47pm On Aug 08|
For the day of vengeance is in mine heart, and the year of my redeemed is come.
We are all now just waiting for the day of vengeance which the LORD has chosen in his heart which no man knows, not even the angels of heaven, not even Christ himself.
But what we know is that this generation will not pass till everything is fulfilled, and this generation is passing away by 30th September 2019.
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