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Re: 5T Naira Debt: Buhari Approves Law Empowering AMCON To Access Debtors’ Account by legalwealth(m): 4:47pm On Aug 08, 2019
Chai!

Five(5) Trillions shocked shocked shocked
Re: 5T Naira Debt: Buhari Approves Law Empowering AMCON To Access Debtors’ Account by Nobody: 5:00pm On Aug 08, 2019
aremuforlife:

Best way to go, these are people who are holding the masses ransom.
must u quote everything

Re: 5T Naira Debt: Buhari Approves Law Empowering AMCON To Access Debtors’ Account by bkool7(m): 5:15pm On Aug 08, 2019
jasmine1600:
Depts that will still be re looted.
Abacha loot
Danzieni loot
Dansuki loot
Ikoyi dollars
Yet nothing on ground.

Igbos and propagandas

Keep spreading fake news

https://www.dailytrust.com.ng/fact-check-did-bill-gates-publicly-rebuke-buhari-nigerias-leaders.html
Re: 5T Naira Debt: Buhari Approves Law Empowering AMCON To Access Debtors’ Account by chinedumoooo: 5:22pm On Aug 08, 2019
Bravo,my fearless and courageous presido.

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Re: 5T Naira Debt: Buhari Approves Law Empowering AMCON To Access Debtors’ Account by higgs: 5:23pm On Aug 08, 2019
There are cases where the courts can legally remove the veil of incorporation in order to expose and punish individual offenders. In the end,the courts may judge each case on its own merit.
FarahAideed:
So what's the essence of incorporation? I know people with low IQ will applaud this but this is very wrong ..There is a reason why companies are Incorporated and once Incorporated every company becomes a distinct individual before the law and assumes the identity of an entity. AMCON has no right to go after personal accounts of promoters of a company but can buy over debt and takeover the equity and assets of a company whose debt it has bought over .. For those asking is that how people will run away with bank loans please see answer to that below :

Ans: Its the onus of the bank to perform quality due diligence and risk assessment before going into a creditor debtor relationship with any Incorporated entity .

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Re: 5T Naira Debt: Buhari Approves Law Empowering AMCON To Access Debtors’ Account by gabicon: 5:23pm On Aug 08, 2019
Pavarottii:

nobody can totally service his her company's loan... Buhari will just scatter this country... him that he is owing 24trillion... if they decide to collect it by force... won't he eventually sell Nigeria?

Borrowing to Foster growth and development is not bad, if The great America are to pay back it's debt it will take 40 years of paying $1billion daily to do so, similar case goes for most top economies in the world.

We had a recession and the only way to get out of it was to spend out of it and you don't spend money you don't have you have to borrow. We should be less concerned about the borrowing and focus more on it's sustainability and utilization. For instance if we borrow to finance 2nd niger bridge or Lagos/ibadan express that's good borrow but if we use it for recurrent that's bad borrow.

I disagree with the notion that nobody can entirely service their loans many businesses in Nigeria like coscharis are serving their loans to maturity. Some people have made it a career to borrow and not pay back those are the once Amcon is after.

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Re: 5T Naira Debt: Buhari Approves Law Empowering AMCON To Access Debtors’ Account by nedekid: 5:23pm On Aug 08, 2019
FarahAideed:
So what's the essence of incorporation? I know people with low IQ will applaud this but this is very wrong ..There is a reason why companies are Incorporated and once Incorporated every company becomes a distinct individual before the law and assumes the identity of an entity. AMCON has no right to go after personal accounts of promoters of a company but can buy over debt and takeover the equity and assets of a company whose debt it has bought over .. For those asking is that how people will run away with bank loans please see answer to that below :

Ans: Its the onus of the bank to perform quality due diligence and risk assessment before going into a creditor debtor relationship with any Incorporated entity .
Thank you jare. The only sensible post I have seen here.

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Re: 5T Naira Debt: Buhari Approves Law Empowering AMCON To Access Debtors’ Account by beardedboy(m): 5:26pm On Aug 08, 2019
jasmine1600:
Depts that will still be re looted.
Abacha loot
Danzieni loot
Dansuki loot
Ikoyi dollars
Yet nothing on ground.

You're destined to be negative and pessimistic.
Nigeria will progress. It is you and your family that will never progress. Bloody bigot.

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Re: 5T Naira Debt: Buhari Approves Law Empowering AMCON To Access Debtors’ Account by lexy2014: 5:28pm On Aug 08, 2019
aremuforlife:

Best way to go, these are people who are holding the masses ransom.

Is it d 5t that is being owed that is holding d masses to ransom or d people that will recover d money like they recovered Abacha loot& still pocket it?
Re: 5T Naira Debt: Buhari Approves Law Empowering AMCON To Access Debtors’ Account by lexy2014: 5:29pm On Aug 08, 2019
beardedboy:


You're destined to be negative and pessimistic.
Nigeria will progress. It is you and your family that will never progress. Bloody bigot.

How will Nigeria progress?
Re: 5T Naira Debt: Buhari Approves Law Empowering AMCON To Access Debtors’ Account by Lovelive: 5:31pm On Aug 08, 2019
jasmine1600:
Depts that will still be re looted.
Abacha loot
Danzieni loot
Dansuki loot
Ikoyi dollars
Yet nothing on ground.

Please always remind us with these
Re: 5T Naira Debt: Buhari Approves Law Empowering AMCON To Access Debtors’ Account by aremuforlife(m): 5:33pm On Aug 08, 2019
[/quote][quote author=lexy2014 post=81070081]

Is it d 5t that is being owed that is holding d masses to ransom or d people that will recover d money like they recovered Abacha loot& still pocket it?
5t will go a long way to help the masses if well spent into necessary infrastructures and social amenities.
Re: 5T Naira Debt: Buhari Approves Law Empowering AMCON To Access Debtors’ Account by Nobody: 5:35pm On Aug 08, 2019
gabicon:


Borrowing to Foster growth and development is not bad, if The great America are to pay back it's debt it will take 40 years of paying $1billion daily to do so, similar case goes for most top economies in the world.

We had a recession and the only way to get out of it was to spend out of it and you don't spend money you don't have you have to borrow. We should be less concerned about the borrowing and focus more on it's sustainability and utilization. For instance if we borrow to finance 2nd niger bridge or Lagos/ibadan express that's good borrow but if we use it for recurrent that's bad borrow.

I disagree with the notion that nobody can entirely service their loans many businesses in Nigeria like coscharis are serving their loans to maturity. Some people have made it a career to borrow and not pay back those are the once Amcon is after.


baba you really know how economy and finance work.

i respect you...

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Re: 5T Naira Debt: Buhari Approves Law Empowering AMCON To Access Debtors’ Account by OlujobaSamuel: 5:36pm On Aug 08, 2019
FarahAideed:
So what's the essence of incorporation? I know people with low IQ will applaud this but this is very wrong ..There is a reason why companies are Incorporated and once Incorporated every company becomes a distinct individual before the law and assumes the identity of an entity. AMCON has no right to go after personal accounts of promoters of a company but can buy over debt and takeover the equity and assets of a company whose debt it has bought over .. For those asking is that how people will run away with bank loans please see answer to that below :

Ans: Its the onus of the bank to perform quality due diligence and risk assessment before going into a creditor debtor relationship with any Incorporated entity .
What are the conditions for lifting of veil of incorporation?
Re: 5T Naira Debt: Buhari Approves Law Empowering AMCON To Access Debtors’ Account by AngelicBeing: 5:39pm On Aug 08, 2019
davodyguy:


Even if they sell Capital Oil, it wouldn't still be enough to Pay Ifeanyi Ubah's debt.

He owes a debt in the region of N120 Billion and the market value of all his assets is less than that
What, how did the banks advanced him such a huge amount of money shocked

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Re: 5T Naira Debt: Buhari Approves Law Empowering AMCON To Access Debtors’ Account by dimusky: 5:39pm On Aug 08, 2019
Draconian law. A company is different from its Directors and shareholders. Why pierce the veil of incorporation on grounds of debts of the company.
Re: 5T Naira Debt: Buhari Approves Law Empowering AMCON To Access Debtors’ Account by Deepfreezer(m): 5:41pm On Aug 08, 2019
Y'all should get ready to welcome thousands back to the unemployment market cheesy cheesy cheesy look at the kind of policy a President is making, did this man even suck his mother's breast
Re: 5T Naira Debt: Buhari Approves Law Empowering AMCON To Access Debtors’ Account by maasoap(m): 5:48pm On Aug 08, 2019
FarahAideed:
So what's the essence of incorporation? I know people with low IQ will applaud this but this is very wrong ..There is a reason why companies are Incorporated and once Incorporated every company becomes a distinct individual before the law and assumes the identity of an entity. AMCON has no right to go after personal accounts of promoters of a company but can buy over debt and takeover the equity and assets of a company whose debt it has bought over .. For those asking is that how people will run away with bank loans please see answer to that below :

Ans: Its the onus of the bank to perform quality due diligence and risk assessment before going into a creditor debtor relationship with any Incorporated entity .

Mr high IQ, your IQ forgot to tell you that these thieves might have diverted these loans to their private individual accounts.

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Re: 5T Naira Debt: Buhari Approves Law Empowering AMCON To Access Debtors’ Account by NkemChukwudi: 5:49pm On Aug 08, 2019
FarahAideed:
So what's the essence of incorporation? I know people with low IQ will applaud this but this is very wrong ..There is a reason why companies are Incorporated and once Incorporated every company becomes a distinct individual before the law and assumes the identity of an entity. AMCON has no right to go after personal accounts of promoters of a company but can buy over debt and takeover the equity and assets of a company whose debt it has bought over .. For those asking is that how people will run away with bank loans please see answer to that below :

Ans: Its the onus of the bank to perform quality due diligence and risk assessment before going into a creditor debtor relationship with any Incorporated entity .


Please grow sense. Please just grow sense immediately!!!

This is a case of practical realities on ground overriding impractical, unnecessary, dogmatic nonsense such as 'incorporation'.

You should have also pointed out that in sane environments the law is allowed to 'lift the veil of incorporation' under which criminals and unscrupulous people (including PDP people grin, thieves) usually hide.

This is a good move.

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Re: 5T Naira Debt: Buhari Approves Law Empowering AMCON To Access Debtors’ Account by NkemChukwudi: 5:50pm On Aug 08, 2019
Deepfreezer:
Y'all should get ready to welcome thousands back to the unemployment market cheesy cheesy cheesy look at the kind of policy a President is making, did this man even suck his mother's breast

Ignorant and irresponsible crazy comment!
Re: 5T Naira Debt: Buhari Approves Law Empowering AMCON To Access Debtors’ Account by NkemChukwudi: 5:52pm On Aug 08, 2019
nedekid:

Thank you jare. The only sensible post I have seen here.

there was no sense in that comment by FarahAideed - a confirmed Buhari hater, please check yourself!

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Re: 5T Naira Debt: Buhari Approves Law Empowering AMCON To Access Debtors’ Account by NkemChukwudi: 5:54pm On Aug 08, 2019
higgs:
There are cases where the courts can legally remove the veil of incorporation in order to expose and punish individual offenders. In the end,the courts may judge each case on its own merit.


You dey mind that Buhari Hating ignoramus FarahAideed

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Re: 5T Naira Debt: Buhari Approves Law Empowering AMCON To Access Debtors’ Account by lexy2014: 5:55pm On Aug 08, 2019
aremuforlife:

5t will go a long way to help the masses if well spent into necessary infrastructures and social amenities.

D one that those in charge of infrastructure & social amenities have, what have they accomplished with it? All d high profile seizures& Abacha loot returned, what has been accomplished with them so far?
Re: 5T Naira Debt: Buhari Approves Law Empowering AMCON To Access Debtors’ Account by NkemChukwudi: 5:55pm On Aug 08, 2019
Pavarottii:

he is scattering this country... there is almost no company that runs without debt... even America has debts... he should give them a time frame to get the money instead of this rubbish... if all this companies crumble who do u think it will affect the most? the owners or Nigerians... Buhari that is owing 25trillion... if they collect it this way ... do u think by tomorrow u won't see American. n England guards guarding our oil wells n collecting our oil till it finishes... that is also selling Nigeria...?
u av talk of the millions of job losses.
and increase in goods so they owners will make their money to pay Back.

u guys just comment like u guys do not go to school...


This is one of the most stupid comments I have ever read on NL. Rubbish!!!

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Re: 5T Naira Debt: Buhari Approves Law Empowering AMCON To Access Debtors’ Account by maasoap(m): 5:55pm On Aug 08, 2019
Pavarottii:

he is scattering this country... there is almost no company that runs without debt... even America has debts... he should give them a time frame to get the money instead of this rubbish... if all this companies crumble who do u think it will affect the most? the owners or Nigerians... Buhari that is owing 25trillion... if they collect it this way ... do u think by tomorrow u won't see American. n England guards guarding our oil wells n collecting our oil till it finishes... that is also selling Nigeria...?
u av talk of the millions of job losses.
and increase in goods so they owners will make their money to pay Back.

u guys just comment like u guys do not go to school...

May be you should tell your lawmakers who amended the existing law.
But let me tell you why it is essential for AMCON to recover those loans by all means: AMCON bailed out the original corporations that would have gone bankrupt as a result of borrowing by those useless billionaires who would borrow money from banks with the intention not to pay back. Many banks' customers would have committed suicide if not for AMCON intervention.

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Re: 5T Naira Debt: Buhari Approves Law Empowering AMCON To Access Debtors’ Account by aremuforlife(m): 5:56pm On Aug 08, 2019
[/quote][quote author=lexy2014 post=81070941]

D one that those in charge of infrastructure & social amenities have, what have they accomplished with it? All d high profile seizures& Abacha loot returned, what has been accomplished with them so far?
Are you in support that they should go without paying

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Re: 5T Naira Debt: Buhari Approves Law Empowering AMCON To Access Debtors’ Account by lexy2014: 5:57pm On Aug 08, 2019
aremuforlife:

Are you in support that they should go without paying

U still haven't d question I asked. U just beating around d bush. D one that those in charge of infrastructure & social amenities have, what have they accomplished with it? All d high profile seizures& Abacha loot returned, what has been accomplished with them so far?
Re: 5T Naira Debt: Buhari Approves Law Empowering AMCON To Access Debtors’ Account by bigpicture001: 6:02pm On Aug 08, 2019
Very wrong move by the president on corporate nigeria
Re: 5T Naira Debt: Buhari Approves Law Empowering AMCON To Access Debtors’ Account by FarahAideed: 6:16pm On Aug 08, 2019
maasoap:


Mr high IQ, your IQ forgot to tell you that these thieves might have diverted these loans to their private individual accounts.

The banks should have done their due diligence , risk assessment and collateral bonding properly .
Re: 5T Naira Debt: Buhari Approves Law Empowering AMCON To Access Debtors’ Account by dataking: 6:16pm On Aug 08, 2019
Pavarottii:

he is scattering this country... there is almost no company that runs without debt... even America has debts... he should give them a time frame to get the money instead of this rubbish... if all this companies crumble who do u think it will affect the most? the owners or Nigerians... Buhari that is owing 25trillion... if they collect it this way ... do u think by tomorrow u won't see American. n England guards guarding our oil wells n collecting our oil till it finishes... that is also selling Nigeria...?
u av talk of the millions of job losses.
and increase in goods so they owners will make their money to pay Back.

u guys just comment like u guys do not go to school...

Shut up

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Re: 5T Naira Debt: Buhari Approves Law Empowering AMCON To Access Debtors’ Account by maasoap(m): 6:19pm On Aug 08, 2019
FarahAideed:


The banks should have done their due diligence , risk assessment and collateral bonding properly .

And because of that, the money they borrowed should remain in their private accounts? That's the beauty of law my friend, everyone has got to comply. Desperate time calls for desperate solution, no hiding place for thieves

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