bingbagbo:
Jw is a cult!

First century Jewish critics also asserted that Jesus and his followers were a CULT! Matthew 10:24-25

But Jesus' work is what you're now trying to do, the irony of this is that you are the one accusing those doing fine work of being CULT today!

bingbagbo:
Jw is a cult!

FRAUD man Gbagbo , PEDDLER OF JUNK.
Pharisee cultist who doesn't agree with Jesus Christ, in John17:3 ,& 20:17 & Rev 3:12.
Shame on you.

I'm sure there's a detailed thread on this subject already. Funny how it keeps cropping up with no study of how the actual [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_1%3A1?wprov=sfla1]Gospel[/url] came about.

budaatum:
I'm sure there's a detailed thread on this subject already. Funny how it keeps cropping up with no study of how the actual [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_1%3A1?wprov=sfla1]Gospel[/url] came about.

Okokobioko !!!!!!

You can now see that the Logos was wisdom personified at Proverbs, 8:22, (Rev3:14) a created being working with Yahweh at creation of the world.
(Genesis 4:1. 14:19. Hebrew Qanah= give birth, produce, possess, bring forth, beget, acquire, gotten ,create).

The Church Father, Tertullian wrote that stuff and debunked the FRAUD these Pharisees - bingbagbo, Johnw FRAUD and solite3 have been peddling on this forum.

Janosky:


Okokobioko !!!!!!

You can now see that the Logos was wisdom personified at Proverbs, 8:22, (Rev3:14) a created being working with Yahweh at creation of the world.
(Genesis 4:1. 14:19. Hebrew Qanah= give birth, produce, possess, bring forth, beget, acquire, gotten ,create).

The Church Father, Tertullian wrote that stuff and debunked the FRAUD these Pharisees - bingbagbo, Johnw FRAUD and solite3 have been peddling on this forum.

Jw is a cult, flee from such satanic company

Jesus says believers are to witness him (Jesus) in Acts 1:8 jws witness Jehovah

The difference is clear

Janosky:


Okokobioko !!!!!!

You can now see that the Logos was wisdom personified at Proverbs, 8:22, (Rev3:14) a created being working with Yahweh at creation of the world.
(Genesis 4:1. 14:19. Hebrew Qanah= give birth, produce, possess, bring forth, beget, acquire, gotten ,create).

The Church Father, Tertullian wrote that stuff and debunked the FRAUD these Pharisees - bingbagbo, Johnw FRAUD and solite3 have been peddling on this forum.

lying pharisee™ deceiver false jw Janosky/OneJ

big big fraud, the Word cannot be created when He already existed in Father God as His eternal wisdom-as his eternal Spirit
the Word is an exact likeness of Father, being of the same eternal Spirit that is God

i have explained these things before with scriptures, but you would rather believe your god and father the devil through your false church

Janosky/OneJ, you a heap big phony jw, and liar like hell, like your daddy:

Joh 8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Janosky:


Okokobioko !!!!!!

You can now see that the Logos was wisdom personified at Proverbs, 8:22, (Rev3:14) a created being working with Yahweh at creation of the world.
(Genesis 4:1. 14:19. Hebrew Qanah= give birth, produce, possess, bring forth, beget, acquire, gotten ,create).

The Church Father, Tertullian wrote that stuff and debunked the FRAUD these Pharisees - bingbagbo, Johnw FRAUD and solite3 have been peddling on this forum.

Gbagbo FRAUD, your diversionary tactic of Acts 1:8 is your ploy to derail this thread..
Genesis 14:19, how did Yahweh possess the heaven and earth?
Genesis 4:1, how did Eve possess a child?
Proverb 8:22-30 & Genesis 14:19 showcase your mumu FRAUD.

johnw47:




big big fraud, the Word cannot be created when He already existed in Father God as His eternal wisdom-as his eternal Spirit
the Word is an exact likeness of Father, being of the same eternal Spirit that is God

Johnw FRAUD man who confessed "the Father begat Jesus" done TWIST & change tune sharp Sharp.

Jesus and his Father is NOT "the same eternal Spirit that is God"

1 Cor 15:27
For the Scriptures say, “God has put all
things under his authority.” (Of course, when
it says “all things are under his authority,”
that does not include God himself, who gave
Christ his authority.)

Two different, separate spirit beings ,says the scriptures..., NOT Johnw FRAUD THEORY.

Janosky:


Johnw FRAUD man who confessed "the Father begat Jesus" done TWIST & change tune sharp Sharp.

lying pharisee™ deceiver false jw Janosky/OneJ

and i still say "the Father begat Jesus" oh confused cannot stop lying fraudster

Janosky:
Jesus and his Father is NOT "the same eternal Spirit that is God"

lying fraud, my father is human flesh, i am of his human flesh
Father God is a eternal Spirit, the Word-Jesus is of His Fathers eternal Spirit

Janosky: 1 Cor 15:27
For the Scriptures say, “God has put all
things under his authority.” (Of course, when
it says “all things are under his authority,”
that does not include God himself, who gave
Christ his authority.)

Two different, separate spirit beings ,says the scriptures..., NOT Johnw FRAUD THEORY.

oh duh, know nothing, it's two seperate person of the one Spirit
but you satans mob will of course never know or understand things of the Spirit:

1Co 2:14  But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

Janosky:


Johnw FRAUD man who confessed "the Father begat Jesus" done TWIST & change tune sharp Sharp.

Jesus and his Father is NOT "the same eternal Spirit that is God"

1 Cor 15:27
For the Scriptures say, “God has put all
things under his authority.” (Of course, when
it says “all things are under his authority,”
that does not include God himself, who gave
Christ his authority.)

Two different, separate spirit beings ,says the scriptures..., NOT Johnw FRAUD THEORY.

lying pharisee™ deceiver phony jw Janosky/OneJ
you lie about what the scriptures say
you are lying again still always, oh great fraud

the Word come Jesus Christ certainally is the Spirit of God:

2Co 3:17  Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. 

Gen_1:2  And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

Psa 33:6  By the word of the LORD were the heavens made; and all the host of them by the breath of his mouth.

Psa 104:30  Thou sendest forth thy spirit, they are created: and thou renewest the face of the earth.

oh know nothing Janosky/OneJ fraud

Janosky:



Gbagbo FRAUD, your diversionary tactic of Acts 1:8 is your ploy to derail this thread..

truly lying fraud Janosky?OneJ

christians are to witness Jesus, you false jw's witness your false jehovah who has "a god" with him

Act 1:8  But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.

John 1:1 in the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God

polytheist false jw's believe that God(Father) was with "a god"
that is two god's that phony jw's believe in, a almighty god the father
and a mighty god jesus, laughing

christians(true, and some not) believes about that verse, is that Father and the word is God, supported by much scripture
and just as the verse say's without changing it, which phony jw's have done in their perverted book nwt

nutarious:


Would it now mean the Word that ypu said has a form of god has his beginning with God.

How would you explain a god coexistence with God from the Beginning.

Before you respond, this Beginning given to John the beloved was not same as the Beginning of Moses revelation, Moses saw the beginning of Creation but John saw the Beginning of the Godhead.

So if the Wors were in the beginning then you need to explain to us how a god was in Existence with God from the beginning?

Lemme learn from you? Thanks!

The beginning is the beginning of God creating other things. God does not have a beginning, Jesus has. It didn't say 'in the beginning was God", rather "in the beginning was the word".

Did u get d point?

Janosky:


Genesis 4:1, how did Eve possess a child?

lying pharisee™ deceiver false jw Janosky/OneJ
oh duh, eve gave birth to a child, she didn't create him, oh duh mumu brain

Janosky:
Genesis 14:19, how did Yahweh possess the heaven and earth?

oh duh duh, that verse is about God owning the heaven and the earth, such a most duh false jw

and Father God always possess wisdom, He didn't create wisdom
and with the word-Jesus Christ being the personification of wisdom
is yet another scripture showing that Jesus wasn't created

Janosky:
Proverb 8:22-30 & Genesis 14:19 showcase your mumu FRAUD.

you have no clue about proverbs 8 oh greatly confused fraudlent one

Gen 14:19  And he blessed him, and said, Blessed be Abram of the most high God, possessor of heaven and earth: 

posessor of heaven and earth means owner of heaven and earth, laughing



oh great know nothing fraud

JMAN05:


The beginning is the beginning of God creating other things.

phony mano, the beginning is the beginning of God creating all things
not all other things as your perverted nwt say's

JMAN05:
God does not have a beginning, Jesus has.

oh know nothing false jw, Jesus is God:

Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

and Jesus certainally had no beginning, nothing was made without Him:

Joh 1:3  All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 

JMAN05:
It didn't say 'in the beginning was God", rather "in the beginning was the word".

Did u get d point?

ha ha ha, God(Father) and the Word(Jesus) were in the beginning

in the beginning was the word, and the word was with God (in the beginning)


Joh 1:2  The same was in the beginning with God.

Janosky:

You and your copy paste partner KILLED your mumu doctrine and PROVED JWs to be true.
Solite3 & his confused Pharisee LIAR, Ian Paul have confessed that Trinity is a FRAUD.
They said :
"theos en ho logos means ‘the word was God’, which tells us something about the nature of the word,"
In other words, the Word is a god (meaning "godlike or divine nature". "
In simple language, Solite3 admitted that Ian Paul and himself agreed that John1:1c "TELLS US SOMETHING ABOUT THE NATURE OF THE WORD" ,that the Word is godlike or divine nature, ( Every one following this thread, pls ,go and check the meaning of "godlike" or "divine", then come and show us the meaning/definition....)

You were very smart to pick up the "nature" aspect. But maybe you should take it easy on them. Seasoning with salt might be better you know. In most cases, ignoring some critical comments against witnesses could be the best approach.

Another thing is, these ones might be witnesses tomorrow. It has happened before, it can happen again.

[ author=JMAN05 post=82394148]

You were very smart to pick up the "nature" aspect. But maybe you should take it easy on them. Seasoning with salt might be better you know. In most cases, ignoring some critical comments against witnesses could be the best approach.

Another thing is, these ones might be witnesses tomorrow. It has happened before, it can happen again.[/quote]


true.....
Thank you Sir.
Jah bless you Abundantly.

*

johnw47:



**@1)
oh duh, eve gave birth to a child, she didn't create him, oh duh mumu brain



oh duh duh, that verse is about God owning the heaven and the earth, such a most duh false jw

**@2)
and Father God always possess wisdom, He didn't create wisdom
and with the word-Jesus Christ being the personification of wisdom
is yet another scripture showing that Jesus wasn't created




you have no clue about proverbs 8 oh greatly confused fraudlent one

Gen 14:19  And he blessed him, and said, Blessed be Abram of the most high God, possessor of heaven and earth: 

posessor of heaven and earth means owner of heaven and earth, laughing



oh great know nothing fraud

https://www.studylight.org/lexicons/
hebrew/7069.html

Home / Bible Lexicons / Hebrew Lexicon
Bible Lexicons
Old Testament Hebrew Lexical Dictionary
Entry for Strong's #7069
קָנָה
Transliteration
qânâh
Phonetics
kaw-naw'
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Word Definition [ Brown-Driver-Briggs |
Strong ]
Brown-Driver-Briggs' Definition
1) to get, acquire, create, buy, possess
1a) ( Qal)
1a1) to get, acquire, obtain
1a1a) of God originating, creating,
redeeming His people
1a1a1) possessor
1a1b) of Eve acquiring"

***Johnw FRAUD Doctrine LAID BARE...
Johnw keeps laughing at the foolishness of his FRAUD Doctrine...

johnw47:



lying pharisee™ deceiver false jw Janosky/OneJ
oh duh, eve gave birth to a child, she didn't create him, oh duh mumu brain


oh duh duh, that verse is about God owning the heaven and the earth, such a most duh false jw

and Father God always possess wisdom, He didn't create wisdom
and with the word-Jesus Christ being the personification of wisdom
is yet another scripture showing that Jesus wasn't created




you have no clue about proverbs 8 oh greatly confused fraudlent one

Gen 14:19  And he blessed him, and said, Blessed be Abram of the most high God, possessor of heaven and earth: 

posessor of heaven and earth means owner of heaven and earth, laughing



oh great know nothing fraud

https://www.studylight.org/lexicons/hebrew/7069.html


1 get, acquire :
a. of God as originating, creating, קֹנֵה שָׁמַיִם
וָאָרֶץ Genesis 14:19,22; Deuteronomy 32:6
(Israel), Psalm 139:13 ( כִּלְֹיתָ֑י); Proverbs8:22

c. of Eve, acquiring קַיִן , ׳אֶתיֿ (i.e. with the
help of ), Genesis 4:1 (J).



** Gesenius' Hebrew and Chaldee Definition

(1) to found, create [see note below] the
heaven and the earth, Genesis 14:19, 22
Genesis 14:22 men, Deuteronomy 32:6;
Psalms 139:13; Proverbs 8:22..

(2) to acquire for oneself, Proverbs 4:7,
15:32 16:16 19:8 Ruth 4:9, 10 to obtain,
Genesis 4:1 (Eth. ቀነየ፡ to possess, to be
owner).


Johnw FRAUD Doctrine LAID BARE...

Janosky:


https://www.studylight.org/lexicons/
hebrew/7069.html

Home / Bible Lexicons / Hebrew Lexicon
Bible Lexicons
Old Testament Hebrew Lexical Dictionary
Entry for Strong's #7069
קָנָה
Transliteration
qânâh
Phonetics
kaw-naw'
00:00 / 00:00


Word Definition [ Brown-Driver-Briggs |
Strong ]
Brown-Driver-Briggs' Definition
1) to get, acquire, create, buy, possess
1a) ( Qal)
1a1) to get, acquire, obtain
1a1a) of God originating, creating,
redeeming His people
1a1a1) possessor
1a1b) of Eve acquiring"

***Johnw FRAUD Doctrine LAID BARE...
Johnw keeps laughing at the foolishness of his FRAUD Doctrine...

laugh
lying pharisee™ deceiver false jw
everyone knows the diffrent meanings of "qanah" depending on content
or can look it up, but you fraud Janosky/OneJ know nothing

Janosky:


https://www.studylight.org/lexicons/hebrew/7069.html


1 get, acquire :
a. of God as originating, creating, קֹנֵה שָׁמַיִם
וָאָרֶץ Genesis 14:19,22; Deuteronomy 32:6
(Israel), Psalm 139:13 ( כִּלְֹיתָ֑י); Proverbs8:22

c. of Eve, acquiring קַיִן , ׳אֶתיֿ (i.e. with the
help of ), Genesis 4:1 (J).



** Gesenius' Hebrew and Chaldee Definition

(1) to found, create [see note below] the
heaven and the earth, Genesis 14:19, 22
Genesis 14:22 men, Deuteronomy 32:6;
Psalms 139:13; Proverbs 8:22..

(2) to acquire for oneself, Proverbs 4:7,
15:32 16:16 19:8 Ruth 4:9, 10 to obtain,
Genesis 4:1 (Eth. ቀነየ፡ to possess, to be
owner).


Johnw FRAUD Doctrine LAID BARE...

laughing still
lying pharisee™ deceiver false jw
your continued copy and paste definitions, is because you have nothing else
you have no knowledgeable reply to my posts and the scriptures therein, of course

you heap big runaway fraud Janosky/OneJ

Jesus shows in many places throughout the new testament that He is God
for those with eyes to see:

Luk_18:19  And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God.

Mat 20:15  Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? Is thine eye evil, because I am good?

johnw47:



your continued copy and paste definitions, is because you have nothing else
you have no knowledgeable reply to my posts and the scriptures therein, of course

Johnw FRAUD Theorist, your Lies been laid bare.....


***

https://www.studylight.org/lexicons/hebrew/7069.html
** Gesenius' Hebrew and Chaldee
Definition
(1) to found, create [see note below]
the
heaven and the earth, Genesis 14:19,
22
Genesis 14:22 men, Deuteronomy
32:6;
Psalms 139:13; Proverbs 8:22.."


If you're not lying, show everyone the Hebrew meaning of the Hebrew words in Genesis 14:19,22. Genesis 4:1 and Proverb 8:22. you're here been denying....

Nothing genuine about you.....
Come and recycle your LIES

Janosky:

Johnw FRAUD Theorist, your Lies been laid bare.....

only in your blinded false accusing mind, oh know nothing lying pharisee™ Janosky/OneJ:

2Co_4:4  In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

Janosky:

*** https://www.studylight.org/
lexicons/hebrew/7069.html



** Gesenius' Hebrew and Chaldee
Definition
(1) to found, create [see note below]
the
heaven and the earth, Genesis 14:19,
22
Genesis 14:22 men, Deuteronomy
32:6;
Psalms 139:13; Proverbs 8:22.."


If you're not lying, show everyone the Hebrew meaning of the Hebrew words in Genesis 14:19,22. Genesis 4:1 and Proverb 8:22. you're here been denying....

Nothing genuine about you.....
Come and recycle your LIES

 

@bold, you are concerned about everyone seeing you being shown up for your false knowledge and fraud, laugh


oh duh duh duh great fraud Janosky/OneJ, qanah means: create, purchase, to own, to buy, possess, etc.
depending on content

in proverbs 8 it means to possess, God posessed wisdom, He didn't create wisdom
God always had wisdom oh most duh one
and the Word who is the personification of wisdom of course always existed in Father God

Truly Father was never without His wisdom-His Word, oh most confused and fraudulent one


קָנָה
qânâh
kaw-naw'
A primitive root; to erect, that is, create; by extension to procure, especially by purchase (causatively sell); by implication to own: - attain, buy (-er), teach to keep cattle, get, provoke to jealousy, possess (-or), purchase, recover, redeem, X surely, X verily.

johnw47:





 

@bold, you are concerned about everyone seeing you being shown up for your false knowledge and fraud, laugh


oh duh duh duh great fraud Janosky/OneJ, qanah means: create, purchase, to own, to buy, possess, etc.
depending on content

in proverbs 8 it means to possess, God posessed wisdom, He didn't create wisdom
God always had wisdom oh most duh one
and the Word who is the personification of wisdom of course always existed in Father God

Truly Father was never without His wisdom-His Word, oh most confused and fraudulent one


קָנָה
qânâh
kaw-naw'
A primitive root; to erect, that is, CREATE,by extension to procure, especially by purchase (causatively sell); by implication to own: - attain, buy (-er), teach to keep cattle, get, provoke to jealousy, possess (-or), purchase, recover, redeem, X surely, X verily.

Johnw FRAUD Theorist, Yahweh OWNS everything he created.....

Prov 2:6, He is the Creator of wisdom.
John5:26, He is the Owner of Life, he granted life to Jesus.
Na you get heaven or earth?
What does Johnw have that he did not receive from Yahweh?
Answer: Mumu brain and FRAUD Theories.
Get outta here, FRAUD man Pharisees.....

Janosky:


Johnw FRAUD Theorist, Yahweh OWNS everything he created.....

Prov 2:6, He is the Creator of wisdom.
John5:26, He is the Owner of Life, he granted life to Jesus.
Na you get heaven or earth?
What does Johnw have that he did not receive from Yahweh?
Answer: Mumu brain and FRAUD Theories.
Get outta here, FRAUD man Pharisees.....

oh big fraud lying pharisee™ Janosky/OneJ

of course God owns everything, laugh

he didn't create wisdom as i showed
God of course always posessed wisdom

laughing, you have nothing at all, except your continual mumuness and lying and so on and so forth


know nothing fraud Janosky/OneJ, did eve create the boy child, or did she possess the boy child from the Lord?

Gen 4:1  And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten(qanah) a man from the LORD.


know nothing fraud Janosky/OneJ, did abraham create the field, or did he buy it?

Gen 25:10  The field which Abraham purchased(qanah) of the sons of Heth: there was Abraham buried, and Sarah his wife.

etc. etc. etc.

The following verses show Jesus as being, and treated as, both "man" and "God".


as man:
He was called man (John 19:5)
He was called Son of Man (John 9:35-37)
He prayed to the Father (Matt. 6:9)
He was tempted (Matt. 4:1)



as God:
He is worshiped (Matt. 2:2,11; 14:33)
He was called God (John 20:28; Heb. 1:8]
He was called Son of God (Mark 1:1 Luke 1:35)
He is prayed to (Acts 7:59)
He is sinless (1 Pet. 2:22; Heb. 4:15)
He gives eternal life (John 10:28)

etc.

1Co 12:3 Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.

Lord
κύριος
kurios
koo'-ree-os
From κῦρος kuros (supremacy); supreme in authority, that is, (as noun) controller; by implication Mr. (as a respectful title): - God, Lord, master, Sir.


of course no one needs the Holy Spirit to say Jesus is: Mr, or master, or sir, etc.
anyone can and do say those things
but the Holy Spirit is needed to say The Lord Jesus is the "supreme in authority, God"

false jw's whose holy spirit is an impersonable non existant power, cannot say Jesus is The Lord-supreme in authority-God

JMAN05:


The beginning is the beginning of God creating [b[other things[/b]. God does not have a beginning, Jesus has. It didn't say 'in the beginning was God", rather "in the beginning was the word".

Did u get d point?

@ bolded this is crap from watch tower the beginning is when all things was created else it cannot be the beginning. You cannot say this is the beginning of something when part of it has already begun

solite3:
@ bolded this is crap from watch tower the beginning is when all things was created else it cannot be the beginning. You cannot say this is the beginning of something when part of it has already begun

Well, when you are acquainted with biblical language you can understand that beginning does not always mean beginning of everything. The context of John 1:1 does not suggest beginning of everything. Notice that John 1:14 said he is the only begotten son. That suggests creation.

Col 1:15 tells us more. It says Jesus was the firstborn of all creation. As a first-born, does that not show he was created?