Possibly another quota system Notherner.
If so, we on a very long thing as far as stable electricity is concerned.

conyema12:


Please stop celebrating mediocrity joor... Fashola failed woefully. He had four good years and achieved nothing....
Don't let ethinic sentiment becloud your logical reasoning

Your name is Onyeama, you are Ibo so I understand your bitterness

Fashola surpassed every power minister since 1999
Fashola surpassed every works minister since 1999
Fashola surpassed every work minister since 1999

You are free to rants additional rubbish

FarahAideed:


Lies my friend ...Power Generation as at today is a miserly 2600 MWs and under Jonathan it was 3800 MW .. please leave propaganda and face facts ..Buhari has not even added single MW to the grid since he came

You can deny as much as you can just because you are bent on discrediting Buhari's government on all ground but the fact is there.

FarahAideed:


Please show me the one power plant Fasola initiated that is responsible for the increase you talk about ? Abi is Fashola generating it from the air?

Since the government privatised the power sector under Jonathan's government, the role of the government is now more of a regulatory one.

GE amongst other well known power company have committed billions of dollars to improve the power sector.

A lot of state government in the South/South are also working on developing power plant in the last four years as well.

YorubaHero12:



Fashola is currently working on the Niger bridge which your god Jonathan forsake when he was president.

wa, wa, kindly rephrase this your statement.

who Jonathan epp?

i don't support people blindly. Fashola is a dunce, Jonathan is a player in dundee fc and our current president isn't sound physically and mentally

Latidoh1:

Nobody is expecting a miracle. He brought it upon himself. A serious government will fix the power problem within six months.

Just like that? Smh

AmazingELixir:


These people will never learn...why da bleep will this government keep designating the post of the power ministry to non engineers with little or no technical know-how to understand and manage such specialised position.

This is the very reason I do not take these visionless professional bodies seriously, where they are supposed to embark on aggressive advocacy they wouldn't all they are interested in is fighting for executive positions so they can embezzle collected dues and also use the platform to rein in contracts for their personal establishments. COREN & NSE comes to mind.

Fashola for all his successes as the governor of Lagos state failed woefully in this ministry because it's a case of square peg lost in a bottomless round shaft.

In the recent history the only appointee that understood the ministry and came up with a comprehensive blueprint to improve the comatose Nigerian power sector was Prof. Barth Nnaji, ofcourse he was on course to achieve that before the Nigerian factor crept in, his greed and personal interests blinded him to the set objective, which lead to his sack...only for that administration to bring in a near completely inept business man in the person of Prof. Chinedu Nebo and then the vicious circle continued.

The position don't need engineers
All it need is a manager that is not corrupt
Who what the goals and objects are

AmazingELixir:

In the recent history the only appointee that understood the ministry and came up with a comprehensive blueprint to improve the comatose Nigerian power sector was Prof. Barth Nnaji, of course he was on course to achieve that before the Nigerian factor crept in, his greed and personal interests blinded him to the set objective, which lead to his sack...only for that administration to bring in a near completely inept business man in the person of Prof. Chinedu Nebo and then the vicious circle continued.

There was no greed except media manipulation as usual. Before becoming Minister of Power his Geometric Energy was already in place with clear cut plans abd agreement but because he refused to yield to political settlement they set him up with lies. Nigeria still needs Barth Nnaji till tomorrow if we want sincere progress in power sector.

So Saleh is supposed to deliver the mambila power plant that will come and rescue Nigerian from darkness abi?

callme9mm:


People who have high IQ tend to have grey hair faster than people with low iQ

...and the world is now hiring people of EQ, the IQ had gone with the past
Oladeebo

focus7:

Power was far improved under Buhari/Fashola than we ever experienced it from Obasanjo government to Jonathan.

with no single power plant. Abeg repent

BOAR:


As an Ibo man, you people don’t disappoint with silly rants.

I won’t engage nor dignify you with any further response as you are talking from a point of ignorance and bitterness

Shut up and show me one power plant Fashola delivered that improved electricity Generation or is he producing electricity from the Air ..please go to the NERC website and see daily transmission figures and you will see no single improvment since 2015

If Fashola couldn't do well in the power sector.. I doubt anybody will

AmazingELixir:


These people will never learn...why da bleep will this government keep designating the post of the power ministry to non engineers with little or no technical know-how to understand and manage such specialised position.

This is the very reason I do not take these visionless professional bodies seriously, where they are supposed to embark on aggressive advocacy they wouldn't all they are interested in is fighting for executive positions so they can embezzle collected dues and also use the platform to rein in contracts for their personal establishments. COREN & NSE comes to mind.

Fashola for all his successes as the governor of Lagos state failed woefully in this ministry because it's a case of square peg lost in a bottomless round shaft.

In the recent history the only appointee that understood the ministry and came up with a comprehensive blueprint to improve the comatose Nigerian power sector was Prof. Barth Nnaji, ofcourse he was on course to achieve that before the Nigerian factor crept in, his greed and personal interests blinded him to the set objective, which lead to his sack...only for that administration to bring in a near completely inept business man in the person of Prof. Chinedu Nebo and then the vicious circle continued.

Mekenz:
I wonder what a barrister is doing in a power sector, of course he will fail woefully, seriously assignments and positions should be delegated to your area of interest or study, how can you explain a barrister becoming a minister of works, whereas engineers are there, what a misplaced priority.

Nigeria's power problem isn't technical, it is purely administrative; I wonder why a lot of people still hold this extremely simplistic analogy that "power isn't working cos an engineer isn't minister"

From the technical point of view, power generation and distribution is as easy as ABC, it's one of the simplest problems mankind has solved and forgotten for over 100 years. That Nigeria doesn't have power today isn't because we lack the technical know-how, rather it is an administrative and leadership problem.

If you place the greatest professor of engineering the world has ever known as Nigeria's power minister, if he lacks the political will, administrative prowess, discipline, tenacity, street smartness, 'Nigerian wuruwuru smartness' and leadership abilities to bulldoze the cabals that have kept us in darkness, he will not be able to achieve anything.

FarahAideed:


Lies my friend ...Power Generation as at today is a miserly 2600 MWs and under Jonathan it was 3800 MW .. please leave propaganda and face facts ..Buhari has not even added single MW to the grid since he came

Since 1999 till date, Nigeria's power generation has always fluctuated between 2000 - 4000mw; it was the same under OBJ, Yaradua, GEJ and PMB, no single improvement. So I wonder how people keep deluding themselves due to political sentiments saying it was better under president A or B. Live data is available from the NERC website.

dunkem21:

Honestly speaking, I think Buhari wants to get it right this time. He is critically assessing and shelving busy bodies, propagandists, loafers and incompetent hands..

It's not a rocket science

Let's hope so

But you can have power for 24 hours a day all thru the week, straight for a year and counting
It's only your money that will shout at blackout greeeee out.
Only if you have a spare 350K to 20 million quid
Email to Greenifysolarpower @gmail.com

dunkem21:

Honestly speaking, I think Buhari wants to get it right this time. He is critically assessing and shelving busy bodies, propagandists, loafers and incompetent hands..

It's not a rocket science

I agree

FarahAideed:


Lies my friend ...Power Generation as at today is a miserly 2600 MWs and under Jonathan it was 3800 MW .. please leave propaganda and face facts ..Buhari has not even added single MW to the grid since he came

Are you aware though that there are several off-grid power initiatives that have been introduced which are currently providing power to federal universities, popular markets and teaching hospitals?

obailala:
Nigeria's power problem isn't technical, it is purely administrative; I wonder why a lot of people still hold this extremely simplistic analogy that "power isn't working cos an engineer isn't minister"

From the technical point of view, power generation and distribution is as easy as ABC, it's one of the simplest problems mankind has solved and forgotten for over 100 years. That Nigeria doesn't have power today isn't because we lack the technical know-how, rather it is an administrative and leadership problem.

If you place the greatest professor of engineering the world has ever known as Nigeria's power minister, if he lacks the political will, administrative prowess, discipline, tenacity, street smartness, 'Nigerian wuruwuru smartness' and leadership abilities to bulldoze the cabals that have kept us in darkness, he will not be able to achieve anything.

I understand the points you're trying to pass across, but still you're still far from the reality on ground, let me share one story with you. not long ago, I was called upon to checkmate a building that has cracks at all corners of it,waiting to collapse to issue my expertise knowledge on how best to salvage it,to avert total collapse. these said building was own by a barrister in us,he was around and overseas the building,always claiming ITK, giving orders on best materials to be used,just months down the line the building started developing those faults, I earlier mention. he was so helpless and has no option than to seek for professional service,also imaging yourself an engineer, and you gave a contractor a project, you will always detect whenever he or she is trying to cut corners,because it is your field. choosing and delegating people to their areas of interest,knowledge and expertise can never be over emphasize, even if the person doesn't do much because of the Nigeria factors issues that you raised, but he will perform far more than a novice in that particular field.

FarahAideed:


Shut up and show me one power plant Fashola delivered that improved electricity Generation or is he producing electricity from the Air ..please go to the NERC website and see daily transmission figures and you will see no single improvment since 2015

I don't know about surpassing any other minister, but you also know that power generation is not only about on-grid power alone. There are a lot of off-grid power solutions that are being put in place through the Rural Electrification agency. Off-grid power is being provided for federal universities, teaching hospitals, markets etc. The power sector has been unbundled giving room for alternative power generating options. Independent Power Projects are ongoing.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwqhof_canE


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYUEyKBsTaA


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIoMc-iA8Xg

obailala:
Nigeria's power problem isn't technical, it is purely administrative; I wonder why a lot of people still hold this extremely simplistic analogy that "power isn't working cos an engineer isn't minister"

From the technical point of view, power generation and distribution is as easy as ABC, it's one of the simplest problems mankind has solved and forgotten for over 100 years. That Nigeria doesn't have power today isn't because we lack the technical know-how, rather it is an administrative and leadership problem.

If you place the greatest professor of engineering the world has ever known as Nigeria's power minister, if he lacks the political will, administrative prowess, discipline, tenacity, street smartness, 'Nigerian wuruwuru smartness' and leadership abilities to bulldoze the cabals that have kept us in darkness, he will not be able to achieve anything.

My brother you are completely wrong when you stated that generation and distribution is as easy as ABC , ofcourse all those who made similar statements all met with calamitous failures starting with Bola Ige of blessed memory and of recent Raji Fasola, their utterances came about because of their limited understanding of the intricacies and peculiarities of the power sector especially in Nigeria.

To even say the problems of Nigerian power sector isn't technical is quite debilitating to say the least, Financing and policy formulation the other components of the sector come about with sound technical inputs not from personnel managers but discipline technical resource persons.

Fashola is a brilliant and astute resource manager atleast his exploits while at the helm of affairs in Lagos says somuch, why then did he fail, forget all those crap about increase in the generation capacity in the country, I tell you this in good authority never in the history of power transmission in this country have we had the number of total grid failure in a calendar year as under Fashola's time.

dabossman:


Are you aware though that there are several off-grid power initiatives that have been introduced which are currently providing power to federal universities, popular markets and teaching hospitals?

Oh brother please don't do this na

Mekenz:
I understand the points you're trying to pass across, but still you're still far from the reality on ground, let me share one story with you. not long ago, I was called upon to checkmate a building that has cracks at all corners of it,waiting to collapse to issue my expertise knowledge on how best to salvage it,to avert total collapse. these said building was own by a barrister in us,he was around and overseas the building,always claiming ITK, giving orders on best materials to be used,just months down the line the building started developing those faults, I earlier mention. he was so helpless and has no option than to seek for professional service,also imaging yourself an engineer, and you gave a contractor a project, you will always detect whenever he or she is trying to cut corners,because it is your field. choosing and delegating people to their areas of interest,knowledge and expertise can never be over emphasize, even if the person doesn't do much because of the Nigeria factors issues that you raised, but he will perform far more than a novice in that particular field.

You still miss the point; finding a solution to a cracking problem is a purely technical problem which needs a foreman with technical skill/knowledge. But imagine the actual problems stopping the repair of the building are inability to obtain funds from the building owner, a persisting legal dispute between land owner and host community, activity of area boys and cultists in the neighbourhood harassing the builders, etc. With these kind of problems, if you hire the best civil engineer in the world (but who has no street skills, administrative abilities, legal doggedness etc) to oversee that project, how exactly do you think that crack can be fixed.

Like I said before, the problems plaguing the progress in Nigeria's power sector are far from technical issues that just need a technically competent person to fix. If you have a glimpse of the political, legal, commercial, financial and even spiritual issues (like Prof. Nebo admitted in frustration) which plague the power sector in Nigeria, you will acknowledge my earlier statement that Nigeria's power problems are absolutely not technical.

cc: AmazingELixir

FarahAideed:


Oh brother please don't do this na

Have I lied? I'm not saying Fashola has done an excellent job. However, I will also be uncharitable to imply that he did nothing. Truth is the problems with our power value chain is multi-dimensional, from generation to transmission to distribution. Not everything is tied to the FG.

AmazingELixir:


My brother you are completely wrong when you stated that generation and distribution is as easy as ABC , ofcourse all those who made similar statements all met with calamitous failures starting with Bola Ige of blessed memory and of recent Raji Fasola, their utterances came about because of their limited understanding of the intricacies and peculiarities of the power sector especially in Nigeria.

To even say the problems of Nigerian power sector isn't technical is quite debilitating to say the least, Financing and policy formulation the other components of the sector come about with sound technical inputs not from personnel managers but discipline technical resource persons.

Fashola is a brilliant and astute resource manager atleast his exploits while at the helm of affairs in Lagos says somuch, why then did he fail, forget all those crap about increase in the generation capacity in the country, I tell you this in good authority never in the history of power transmission in this country have we had the number of total grid failure in a calendar year as under Fashola's time.

Those guys you mentioned (i.e. Bola Ige, Prof Nebo, Liyel Imoke, Fashola etc.) all made the same erroneous assumption you are making now thinking that the power problem in Nigeria persists due to just a lack of managers with technical knowledge. Those guys were all correct when they said power generation and distribution isn't rocket science. But where they all failed is in their lack of appreciation of the fact that you need something totally different from just technical skill / knowledge to light up Nigeria.

Prof Nnaji understood the market to a good extent because he was a major player; but the same forces which kicked him out are the same forces which made all the other power ministers to fail; that force isn't technical illiteracy, rather it is political, commercial, legal and administrative.

[quote author=obailala post=81471685]
You still miss the point; finding a solution to a cracking problem is a purely technical problem which needs a foreman with technical skill/knowledge. But imagine the actual problems stopping the repair of the building are inability to obtain funds from the building owner, a persisting legal dispute between land owner and host community, activity of area boys and cultists in the neighbourhood harassing the builders, etc. With these kind of problems, if you hire the best civil engineer in the world (but who has no street skills, administrative abilities, legal doggedness etc) to oversee that project, how exactly do you think that crack can be fixed.

Like I said before, the problems plaguing the progress in Nigeria's power sector are far from technical issues that just need a technically competent person to fix. If you have a glimpse of the political, legal, commercial, financial and even spiritual issues (like Prof. Nebo admitted in frustration) which plague the power sector in Nigeria, you will acknowledge my earlier statement that Nigeria's power problems are absolutely not technical.


yeah I must say you have a salient points there, I gave you the story,for you to have a glimpse on why a competent individuals with the knowledge should be placed in a critical positions and ministries, they are in a better position to advocate and also make a sound judgements, compare to a novice in the system, that won't even know when things are going bad. like you pointed out about finance and other circumstances that might hinder such a person from carrying out effectively his or her job, the said person can always relates the problems to his employer and give possible solutions to the problems encountered, in a situations whereby your employer is adamant to your pleas, your other options is to resign honourably to save your pedigree, if one,two,three persons resign that way,then your boss will be forced to do the proper things.

I hope you have gotten my points?

[quote author=obailala post=81471685]
yeah I must say you have a salient points there, I gave you the story,for you to have a glimpse on why a competent individuals with the knowledge should be placed in a critical positions and ministries, they are in a better position to advocate and also make a sound judgements, compare to a novice in the system, that won't even know when things are going bad. like you pointed out about finance and other circumstances that might hinder such a person from carrying out effectively his or her job, the said person can always relates the problems to his employer and give possible solutions to the problems encountered, in a situations whereby your employer is adamant to your pleas, your other options is to resign honourably to save your pedigree, if one,two,three persons resign that way,then your boss will be forced to do the proper things. I hope you have gotten my points?

FarahAideed:


Go and check your facts and you will realise that Jonathan built and delivered more power plants than Evey other govt combined and Buhari is still at zero even after being president twice !!!!! As for perfmance the best power minister we ever had was Barth Nnaji and that's a fact

Built more power plant without proper transmission.....See the government can build thousand of power plants buh with DISCO it's still zero.

vichaz10:


Built more power plant without proper transmission.....See the government can build thousand of power plants buh with DISCO it's still zero.

To solve the problem of transmission didn't he unbundle PHCN and handed over distribution to DISCOs

FarahAideed:


To solve the problem of transmission didn't he unbundle PHCN and handed over distribution to DISCOs

And?

AmazingELixir:


These people will never learn...why da bleep will this government keep designating the post of the power ministry to non engineers with little or no technical know-how to understand and manage such specialised position.

This is the very reason I do not take these visionless professional bodies seriously, where they are supposed to embark on aggressive advocacy they wouldn't all they are interested in is fighting for executive positions so they can embezzle collected dues and also use the platform to rein in contracts for their personal establishments. COREN & NSE comes to mind.

Fashola for all his successes as the governor of Lagos state failed woefully in this ministry because it's a case of square peg lost in a bottomless round shaft.

In the recent history the only appointee that understood the ministry and came up with a comprehensive blueprint to improve the comatose Nigerian power sector was Prof. Barth Nnaji, ofcourse he was on course to achieve that before the Nigerian factor crept in, his greed and personal interests blinded him to the set objective, which lead to his sack...only for that administration to bring in a near completely inept business man in the person of Prof. Chinedu Nebo and then the vicious circle continued.

Minister of power does not have to be an engineer, he has plenty of those within the ministry, associated agencies, and consultancies.

Ministries need visionary leaders, just as the US Department of Defense is always headed by civilians who most often have no military background.

Leadership trumps academics.