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Re: Trump Cancels Automatic Citizenship For Children Of US Citizens Born Abroad by echelons(m): 8:49am On Aug 31, 2019 |
Good |
Re: Trump Cancels Automatic Citizenship For Children Of US Citizens Born Abroad by dallyemmy: 9:11am On Aug 31, 2019 |
Philippians 3:20-21 New Living Translation (NLT) 20 But we are citizens of heaven, where the Lord Jesus Christ lives. And we are eagerly waiting for him to return as our Savior. 21 He will take our weak mortal bodies and change them into glorious bodies like his own, using the same power with which he will bring everything under his control. You can accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior and be Born Again. Then you automatically become a Citizen of Heaven (The streets are made of Gold Rev. 21:21) . It has nothing to do with whether you were born in America or outside of America. 1 Like |
Re: Trump Cancels Automatic Citizenship For Children Of US Citizens Born Abroad by oluwaahmed: 9:34am On Aug 31, 2019 |
Duggedised12: How Pls read the info its not long. |
Re: Trump Cancels Automatic Citizenship For Children Of US Citizens Born Abroad by jamace(m): 10:07am On Aug 31, 2019 |
A president is repairing his country. Citizens of other damaged and bastardized countries are cursing and insulting him. Wetin concern una? Tell your president to repair una country. 1 Like |
Re: Trump Cancels Automatic Citizenship For Children Of US Citizens Born Abroad by DameB(f): 10:09am On Aug 31, 2019 |
babeosisi:Exactly, cos 6 weeks is even less than 2 months |
Re: Trump Cancels Automatic Citizenship For Children Of US Citizens Born Abroad by Duggedised12(f): 10:33am On Aug 31, 2019 |
Cantonese: Lol,OK let me clarify, unlike US where a child is automatically a citizen so long as the child is born there. What the US had was Unconditional citizenship but some other countries have put technicalites like for example ,one of the parent must be a citizen or settled in that country etc. That is what i was driving at. |
Re: Trump Cancels Automatic Citizenship For Children Of US Citizens Born Abroad by Sunsets: 10:57am On Aug 31, 2019 |
If they can make it 6weeks prior to delivery, they qualify. stevodot22: 1 Like |
Re: Trump Cancels Automatic Citizenship For Children Of US Citizens Born Abroad by ffo(m): 11:03am On Aug 31, 2019 |
oloriLFC:Read before you comment!! 1 Like |
Re: Trump Cancels Automatic Citizenship For Children Of US Citizens Born Abroad by Soulsymbol99: 11:32am On Aug 31, 2019 |
Thought it was the other way around |
Re: Trump Cancels Automatic Citizenship For Children Of US Citizens Born Abroad by RexTramadol1: 11:47am On Aug 31, 2019 |
Odingo1: It's not a bad idea seriously If they give birth to their child abroad, it means the child will have to stay in the U.S for a period of time and granting them citizenship will be seamless But once they opt to start a life abroad and live there, why claim U.S citizens again when they can naturalize |
Re: Trump Cancels Automatic Citizenship For Children Of US Citizens Born Abroad by JJOF(m): 12:10pm On Aug 31, 2019 |
Odingo1:Abeg who wan be Nigerian? Even the Nigerians them dey wish say dem no be Nigerians. 1 Like |
Re: Trump Cancels Automatic Citizenship For Children Of US Citizens Born Abroad by SweetSugarhoney(m): 1:12pm On Aug 31, 2019 |
Such is life.....I am unhappy with the idea of it |
Re: Trump Cancels Automatic Citizenship For Children Of US Citizens Born Abroad by NothingDoMe: 1:34pm On Aug 31, 2019 |
CanadaOrBust:That's not what the policy is about. Have you read the link I provided on the policy? |
Re: Trump Cancels Automatic Citizenship For Children Of US Citizens Born Abroad by NothingDoMe: 1:35pm On Aug 31, 2019 |
seborrhic:Exactly. She just wants to Trend. Utter nonsense. Nigerians sef will not go online and read the policy. Smh. |
Re: Trump Cancels Automatic Citizenship For Children Of US Citizens Born Abroad by feelgoodstuffs(m): 3:11pm On Aug 31, 2019 |
Odingo1: |
Re: Trump Cancels Automatic Citizenship For Children Of US Citizens Born Abroad by CanadaOrBust: 4:12pm On Aug 31, 2019 |
NothingDoMe: I appreciate your providing a link but your link does not address what the OP posted (See below) which people have been commenting about: Non-citizens are also expected to stay for at least 6 weeks in the US before their children born in the country will be considered citizens. |
Re: Trump Cancels Automatic Citizenship For Children Of US Citizens Born Abroad by NothingDoMe: 5:43pm On Aug 31, 2019 |
CanadaOrBust:Did you see that in the policy?!! I sent you the actual policy and you are still quoting Linda Ikeji? For real? |
Re: Trump Cancels Automatic Citizenship For Children Of US Citizens Born Abroad by tck2000(m): 6:39pm On Aug 31, 2019 |
Haha |
Re: Trump Cancels Automatic Citizenship For Children Of US Citizens Born Abroad by CanadaOrBust: 6:57pm On Aug 31, 2019 |
NothingDoMe: Bros there are discussions all over the internet, people hyperventilating that 6 weeks presence is now required for US born to become citizen. You posted a link of USICS clarifying what “residency” means. I posted a statement that such a requirement would be unconstitutional. Decide for yourself which one resolves the issue. Here is your post again: “You got it right. However Linda didn't get the full scope of the policy. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/policymanual/updates/20190828-ResidenceForCitizenship.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwjdu9bfwKzkAhXeVBUIHZUGCYMQFjANegQIChAB&usg=AOvVaw0KjKKIDIzH3ZAjDuz3enhg “ Stay blessed
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Re: Trump Cancels Automatic Citizenship For Children Of US Citizens Born Abroad by mozzking: 7:08pm On Aug 31, 2019 |
Odingo1: lol and yet you can easily enter how you want through extremly porous borders and stay as long as you want 1 Like |
Re: Trump Cancels Automatic Citizenship For Children Of US Citizens Born Abroad by babytoun: 8:38pm On Aug 31, 2019 |
CanadaOrBust: I had maintained that the policy does not affect those traveling travelling to the US to have their babies until i downloaded the pdf file in this link and read it thoroughly . I cant find any reference to the 6 weeks requirement to prove residency as even the document cited a 2 month stay that was not sufficient to prove residency . From what i see except this is challenged in court and set aside they are saying you cant just travel down have a baby and return to you country and have citizenship and residency status given to your child . except if anyone has a better explanation for the excerpts below
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Re: Trump Cancels Automatic Citizenship For Children Of US Citizens Born Abroad by CanadaOrBust: 9:35pm On Aug 31, 2019 |
babytoun: Bottom line is that the constitution is very clear and gives no room for further interpretation: The Citizenship Clause is the first sentence of the Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution, which was adopted on July 9, 1868. It states verbatim: "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside." BTW kudos on your research, could u give a link |
Re: Trump Cancels Automatic Citizenship For Children Of US Citizens Born Abroad by babytoun: 9:50pm On Aug 31, 2019 |
CanadaOrBust: Now they are saying the residency status of the mother at the time of birth must be taken into consideration at the time of birth . simply put a visiting mother is only PRESENT in the states but not a RESIDENT , to this end the child though born in the united states is not qualified . This will require higher legal interpretations but the letter of the amendment makes that clear. The link is the one you provided above. it is an 11 page pdf document which i read . https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/policymanual/updates/20190828-ResidenceForCitizenship.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwjdu9bfwKzkAhXeVBUIHZUGCYMQFjANegQIChAB&usg=AOvVaw0KjKKIDIzH3ZAjDuz3enhg “ |
Re: Trump Cancels Automatic Citizenship For Children Of US Citizens Born Abroad by babytoun: 9:59pm On Aug 31, 2019 |
CanadaOrBust: i think they are ready to test the word "RESIDE" in court taking into cognizance the intent of the framers of the constitution then |
Re: Trump Cancels Automatic Citizenship For Children Of US Citizens Born Abroad by CanadaOrBust: 10:07pm On Aug 31, 2019 |
babytoun: But that’s just an added bonus. In US states can make their own laws. That statement simply makes it clear they can’t make a law denying such people citizenship of the state. |
Re: Trump Cancels Automatic Citizenship For Children Of US Citizens Born Abroad by CanadaOrBust: 10:17pm On Aug 31, 2019 |
babytoun: All that is bureaucratic mombo jumbo. Bottom line is, if u manage to have your child in the US that child will get a US passport when he applies for one - all he needs is his birth certificate. The State Dept will not be asking how long his mother or father stayed in US. |
Re: Trump Cancels Automatic Citizenship For Children Of US Citizens Born Abroad by Omonzeleang: 9:21am On Sep 01, 2019 |
I knew this day would come... Any whichway na way sha |
Re: Trump Cancels Automatic Citizenship For Children Of US Citizens Born Abroad by Cantonese: 8:52am On Sep 02, 2019 |
Duggedised12: No problem bro. Please mention the country or countries. |
Re: Trump Cancels Automatic Citizenship For Children Of US Citizens Born Abroad by Duggedised12(f): 9:28am On Sep 02, 2019 |
Cantonese:France,UK,Germany,spain,these countries have tecnicalites in giving citizenship by birth to foreign parents. |
Re: Trump Cancels Automatic Citizenship For Children Of US Citizens Born Abroad by TS2(m): 6:02am On Sep 03, 2019 |
Mynd44: Not true. Anybody born in Nigeria is a Nigerian citizen. You can be a Nigerian citizen through birth, naturalization and conferment of honorary citizenship |
Re: Trump Cancels Automatic Citizenship For Children Of US Citizens Born Abroad by Mynd44: 7:08am On Sep 03, 2019 |
TS2: You can only be a Nigerian by birth if a parent or grandparent is Nigerian. Nigerian does not give citizenship by birth. Read your own constitution 1 Like 2 Shares
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