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Defending Islam From What? by sagenaija: 10:10pm On Sep 13, 2019
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In Defense Of Islam: Misleading Facebook Memes & Actual Quotes From The Qu’ran
I have seen many memes and (alleged) quotations from the Qur’an which cast Islam in a very bad light; however, as a scholar of comparative religion, I happen to know that these so-called quotations and facts about Islam religion are either:
1. Taken out of context,
2. Twisted in such a way as to make them sound as bad as possible, or
3. Total and complete fabrications.

Below I give 12 quotations, taken from Facebook memes on facts about Islam religion, which are supposed to be quotations lifted from the Qur’an; I give them first in the “Facebook meme” version, and then as they actually occur in an English translation of the Qur’an [Penguin Classics, 1919, 1993; translated by N. J. Dawood]. My purpose here is to demonstrate that anti-Muslim propaganda cannot be trusted, and one must question the motives of people who post such vitriolic nonsense.

2:191: FB meme version: “Slay the unbelievers wherever you find them.”
Actual quote from the Qur’an: “Fight for the sake of God those who fight against you, but do not attack them first. God does not love the aggressor. Slay them wherever you find them. Drive them out of the places from which they drove you.”

3:28: FB meme version: “Muslims must not take infidels as friends.”
Actual quote from the Qur’an: “”Let believers not make friends with unbelievers in preference to the faithful…,”

3:85: FB meme version: “Any religion other than Islam is not acceptable.”
Actual quote from the Qur’an: “We believe in God and what is revealed to us; in what was revealed to Abraham and Ishmael, to Isaac and Jacob and the [Hebrew] tribes; and in that which the Lord gave Moses and Jesus and the prophets. We discriminate against none of them. To Him we have surrendered ourselves.”

5:33: FB meme version: “Maim and crucify the infidels if they criticize Islam.”
Actual quote from the Qur’an: “Those that make war against God and His apostles, and spread disorder in the land, shall be put to death or crucified or have their hands and feet cut off on alternate sides, or be banished from the country. They shall be held up to shame in this world and sternly punished in the hereafter; except those that repent before you reduce them. For you must know that God is forgiving and merciful.”

8:12: FB meme version: “Terrorize and behead those who believe I scriptures other than the Qur’an.” [NOTE that the Qur’an is little more than a commentary on the Old and New Testaments of the Bible, and so this “quote” is false on its face.]
Actual quote from the Qur’an [NOTE that the following quote was made during time of war; compare 1 Samuel 15:3 from the Old Testament; also note that God’s comment is addressed to angels, not to man]: “God revealed his will to the angels, saying ‘I shall be with you. Give courage to the believers. I shall cast terror into the hearts of the infidels. Strike off their heads, strike off the very tips of their fingers’.”



8:60: FB meme version: “Muslims must muster all weapons to terrorize the infidels.”
Actual quote from the Qur’an: “Muster against them all the men and cavalry at your command, so that you may strike terror into the enemy of God and your enemy…. If they incline to peace, make peace with them and put your trust in God.”

8:65: FB meme version: “The unbelievers are stupid; urge the Muslims to fight them.”
Actual quote from the Qur’an: “Prophet, rouse the faithful to arms. If there are twenty steadfast men among you, they shall vanquish two hundred; and if there are a hundred, they shall rout a thousand unbelievers, for they [unbelievers] are devoid of understanding.”

9:5: FB meme version: “When opportunity arises kill the infidels wherever you catch them.”
Actual quote from the Qur’an: “[Slay] idolaters wherever you find them… If they repent [of their idolatry] and take to prayer and render the alms levy, allow them to go their way. God is forgiving and merciful.”

Majority of Moslems actually live out the Islam of their own perception. As a result, they choose to “reinterpret” VERY CLEAR koranic verses and passages to suit their own view of Islam. Even Islamic scholars have VARYING interpretation of same portion of the Koran such that there are as many ‘interpretations’ of particular passages as there are scholars.

When a non-Moslem explains the meaning of any portion of the Koran which shows how bad Islam really is, they resort to the ‘out of context’, ‘twisted’, ‘fabrications’ and other arguments. They even DISOWN their well-known scholars and HADITHS (labelling them as weak) when such positions do not align with their stand. Of course, for many Moslems on Nairaland their scholarship is shallow. They are therefore not able to engage in any meaningful debate but usually resort to ‘deflections’.

At the end of the day the issue really boils down to this: Most Moslems have their own idea of what Islam is so even though they claim to ‘FOLLOW’ Mohamed and the Koran they actually live by their own opinion and imagination of what Islam is. If they are to follow Islam, they will actually be back to 7th century Arabia where any WARLORD could do anything and get away with it. In that era laws could be made and ‘abrogated’ by an Allah who appear not have exact knowledge of what he wanted for his people even though the ‘revelations’ already EXISTED in a book that had always been in heaven.

In 7th century Arabia temporary ‘marriages’ (for a few days) – Muta – was permissible, raiding of caravans was an accepted lifestyle, raping of girls and women was all right, killing those who questioned your religious belief was ok, lying to the non-Moslem was no big deal, wife beating (domestic violence) was acceptable, assassinating poets was fine, war crimes were permissible, and the list is endless.

Errors are another thing. Geographical, historical, mathematical and other errors in Islam’s books that are claimed to be infallible and error-free leaves much to be desired.

If any of the things listed above is denied by Moslem apologists, they are only being true to themselves as those who mislead others.
Re: Defending Islam From What? by BeLookingIDIOT(m): 3:53am On Sep 14, 2019
Oga,you don't have to be Muslim or even like Islam.I could be a critic too,I compared those verses myself and they were different.What are you still shamelessly trying to defend.
Re: Defending Islam From What? by sagenaija: 10:10am On Sep 14, 2019
Moslems Living Out Islam of their own Perception

Moslems daily live in contradiction to Islam. This is because somehow in their minds they know that some of its teachings are simply out of place or outrightly weird.

For example, Representative Ilhan Omar, American Moslem Congresswoman when asked about FEMALE GENITAL MUTILATION (FGM) claimed it is Evil, Vile, Offensive and Abhorrent!

See the clip here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ELdOBZRxEQ

However, all Islamic scholars unanimously CLAIM that female genital mutilation is PRESCRIBED in Islam. Moslem books, which show what Islam is all about, clearly state what Islam’s position on female circumcision is. It is regarded as part of ALLAH’S created order. What Mohamed, the revered prophet of Islam, said about it is equally clearly spelt out in Islam’s books.

So, if a Moslem woman and a congress woman in the US, who should be intelligent enough to know what her religion prescribes “appears” to hold an opposite position to Islam what are we to make of it?

Maybe she is lying to protect herself, in order to make those unfamiliar with what her religion demands, think her religion does not demand such vile practices. Again taqiya (Lying/deception) for the Moslem is NORMAL. Maybe she is beginning to see how difficult it is to live out a 7th century 'culture' in the 21st century. But perhaps she has convinced herself that as long as she is a propaganda tool for Islam Allah may eventually admit her to paradise.

Can any Moslem defend her?
Empiree, Rashduct4luv, Lukgaf, Abdulgaffar22
Re: Defending Islam From What? by LordReed(m): 11:39am On Sep 14, 2019
The same reasons why Christians "defend their faith", to prevent the influences that can clearly undermine their religion and the practice of it. Unfortunately for us all, this "defense" turns violent and leads to death of people who otherwise would have lived and died naturally.

IMO if you need to defend your religion from influence it goes to show your religion is just as man-made as the block and mortar building you live in.

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Re: Defending Islam From What? by debaj10: 7:59pm On Sep 14, 2019
chai.
na wa o.
to play wit una na crime?
y una dey vex lyk dis?

if lying is permitted, how can u ever hope to get d truth?
bros, drink cold water.
sagenaija:
Moslems Living Out Islam of their own Perception

Moslems daily live in contradiction to Islam. This is because somehow in their minds they know that some of its teachings are simply out of place or outrightly weird.

For example, Representative Ilhan Omar, American Moslem Congresswoman when asked about FEMALE GENITAL MUTILATION (FGM) claimed it is Evil, Vile, Offensive and Abhorrent!

See the clip here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ELdOBZRxEQ

However, all Islamic scholars unanimously CLAIM that female genital mutilation is PRESCRIBED in Islam. Moslem books, which show what Islam is all about, clearly state what Islam’s position on female circumcision is. It is regarded as part of ALLAH’S created order. What Mohamed, the revered prophet of Islam, said about it is equally clearly spelt out in Islam’s books.

So, if a Moslem woman and a congress woman in the US, who should be intelligent enough to know what her religion prescribes “appears” to hold an opposite position to Islam what are we to make of it?

Maybe she is lying to protect herself, in order to make those unfamiliar with what her religion demands, think her religion does not demand such vile practices. Again taqiya (Lying/deception) for the Moslem is NORMAL. Maybe she is beginning to see how difficult it is to live out a 7th century 'culture' in the 21st century. But perhaps she has convinced herself that as long as she is a propaganda tool for Islam Allah may eventually admit her to paradise.

Can any Moslem defend her?
Empiree, Rashduct4luv, Lukgaf, Abdulgaffar22
Re: Defending Islam From What? by sagenaija: 7:39pm On Sep 15, 2019
The Most Violent and Awkward Quran Verse

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfqduwXVSgQ

By:
Apostate Prophet
Published on Sep 7, 2019

Many modern part-time Muslim apologists spread a now well-known Quran verse, which says that killing one innocent person was like killing all mankind; but are they right? Let's find out the truth about this Quran verse and what it reveals about the Quran and Islam.

In short: This popular Quran verse is taken out of context. In context, it is extremely violent, not peaceful. The text also reveals how Islam plagiarized Jewish texts, and this should make Muslims seriously reconsider their beliefs.

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