helinues:
[s]Is Ebonyi not part of old eastern region? Why are they referring to them as Wawa? Brotherly name?

Those who practiced OSU back then that were outcast, did they migrate from Burundi to old eastern region?

Let even assumed your story line is through, was is old SW people that were oppressing Ijaws and Ogini?

You should have written the article without lumping Yoruba's to it, but guess what, your people can never do it even for a day.

You guys are the enemy of yourself.[/s].

helinues:


[s]This one can't even make any attempts to countered my comments.

Okies.. Next[/s]

selemempe:
Many Nigerians (including Igbos) have either heard this myth or voiced it in some occassions.
Do you know the history? Read and learn and diffuse your prejudices.

Before 1966, the Igbos showed a rare unity unexpected of a people that never had a central leadership in their history. That single-mindedness showed itself in the 1922 Aba women riot that saw organised protests from market women because of colonial taxes (1st of its kind in Nigeria). It also showed itself when the Igbos rallied around Nnamdi Azikiwe in 1953 to become premeire of the East after he lost out to Awolowo in the west. The Igbos supported him and effectively dethrone Eyo Ita from Calabar.

The Igbo unity and single-mindedness saw them develope a curious apprentice system that saw thousands of Igbo youths lifted out of the villages by masters who took them to cities (especially in the north) to learn a skill or a trade. The Igbos became a successful and visible minority through this apprentiship system all across Nigeria to the discomfort of the north.

The Igbos achieved another feet through unity of purpose when the Igbos of Delta province in Western Region, under the banner of Zik's NCNC, rallied to be carved out of the west along with the Edoids. This was at a time when Awolowo was fighting a political war with his protegè Akintola. The Igbos were able to divide the West and install an Igboman as Premiere of the new Midwest Region.

The unity of Igbos (plus their industrious nature ) also saw them 1st occupy the majority of post independence political positions. They occupied offices of President, Senate President, Speaker, Chief of Army, Chief of Police and dominated the government of Balewa and the Federal Civil Service. This caused issues ofcourse. Jelousy and envy was directed at the Igbos from all around.

Then the unthinkable happened Predominantly Igbo soldiers executed the coup that left prominent people from other tribes dead except the Igbos. And of course an Igboman was the beneficiary of the coup. Who wouldn't think it was another Igbo ''grand plot to dominate''?

Now to the origin of Igbos not loving themselves; the civil war and aftermath caused it all. How?
The Ijaws who were a major (probably the 2nd largest) ethnic group in the Eastern region were not very happy with the Igbos. They felt left out of the scheme of power as far back as 1953. The Ibibio/efiks played the role the yorubas currently play to the north, they support Igbos' dominance of the east with the hope of a sit at the table. Azikiwe was a master of divide and conquer. He gave the Calabas their sit and they gave him their support. So, the Ijaws and Oginis felt isolated.
The civil war provided the opportunity they sort. Gowon divided the East into 3 states. The largest city of the East (Port Harcourt) and the major oil wells at the time were carefully carved into Rivers state- a state that was majority Ijaw. The Igbos in the new entity realised the dangers facing them as a result of posible Ijaw oppression. Their leader at the time called Elechi Amadi decided with the elders of the predominantly Ikwere-Igbo clan to dissociate themselves from Igbos in the heat of the civil war. That was it. When the war ended, the Ijaws and the newly formed Ikwere ethnic group refused to allow returning Igbos reclaim their property in PH.
In 1978 constitutional conference, many Igbo clans disillusioned by the Igbo identity and the place of Igbos in the new Nigeria decided to go autonomous. Ika, Ukwani and Ikwere clans of Igbo were listed as independent tribes in the constitution. Ikwere people, influenced by the Ijaws, will hardly sell land to an Igboman. Many Igbos from present Imo and Abia states decided to become Ikweres than Igbos.

As all these things were happening through the 60s, 70s, 80s and 90s, the ever gallant Yoruba media were taking note and resounding it through-out Nigeria that the once united, homogenous and powerful Igbos are no longer united or homogenous nay powerful. The politics of Senate Presidency in 1999-2007, which saw Igbos produce 5 SPs in 8 years did not help matters at all. It got to a sad point that even Igbos started doubting themselves.

This is the story.

But is it not funny that a people who helped themselves, dragging themselves out of poverty one person at a time after they were left with nothing but 20 pounds are said not to be united. But Akintola and Awolowo were united. Ife and modakeke were united, boko haram and kanuris were united, fulani and middlebelt farmers were united...etc

[s]I hope that one day the Ikweres (especially), Ikas and Ukwuanis will come back to the fold and be proud Igbos again so that we can go back to our winning ways when Zik was our leader.[/s]

Shalom
Selemepe

MelesZenawi:




You spoiled the who write up with that, so I have to cancel it for you.

helinues:
Is Ebonyi not part of old eastern region? Why are they referring to them as Wawa? Brotherly name?

Those who practiced OSU back then that were outcast, did they migrate from Burundi to old eastern region?

Let even assumed your story line is through, was is it old SW people that were oppressing Ijaws and Ogini?

You should have written the article without lumping Yoruba's to it, but guess what, your people can never do it even for a day.

You guys are the enemy of yourself..

MelesZenawi:




You spoiled the who write up with that, so I have to cancel it for you.

mrvitalis:

Igbos would one day be united under a zone or region or country there is nothing your likes can do about it

Difrent:
Everyone knows the Iboman is his own greatest enemy.... Your article stopped being interesting when you mentioned that ibos supported Nnamdi Azikwe to become eastern region president after losing to awolowo in the west, thereby edging out Oyo ita....for goodness sake why would nnamdi azikwe leave the premiership of his own region and be struggling with a yorubaman for the premiership of western region if not greed! He lost out and came back home and unfairly removed Oyo ita because he is not an iboman.
This is the real nature of the iboman and we are seeing the same thing since they lost elections in 2015 ,shameless people.

MelesZenawi:



Nothing like that.

Ereolamide:
No mention of how Igbos denied ijaw secession from the former eastern region.

mrvitalis:

U are nobody to stop it.....a stupid yoruba man or fulani cant tell me where my boundary lies ,only igbos know igbos

mrvitalis:

Firstly enugu ( nsukka) not ebonyi are wawa people ....and that's just fun way to address them ,even nsukka people call them self the name
The first university was in a wawa region (UNN ) ...
Zik mother was from wawa so u see no body saw them as less

Osu , in igbo land there was no prison ,igbos believe prison is worse than death ,

So when someone commit a horrible offence ,instead to kill them you expel them from the land n excomunicate them ...this people move to OSU region

No body see them as less but they are children of people who committed crime

helinues:
Is Ebonyi not part of old eastern region? Why are they referring to them as Wawa? Brotherly name?

Those who practiced OSU back then that were outcast, did they migrate from Burundi to old eastern region?

Let even assumed your story line is through, was is it old SW people that were oppressing Ijaws and Ogini?

You should have written the article without lumping Yoruba's to it, but guess what, your people can never do it even for a day.

You guys are the enemy of yourself..

helinues:


Thanks for the explanations.

But you never answered the Ijaws and Ogini oppressing

helinues:
Is Ebonyi not part of old eastern region? Why are they referring to them as Wawa? Brotherly name?

Those who practiced OSU back then that were outcast, did they migrate from Burundi to old eastern region?

Let even assumed your story line is through, was is it old SW people that were oppressing Ijaws and Ogini?

You should have written the article without lumping Yoruba's to it, but guess what, your people can never do it even for a day.

You guys are the enemy of yourself..

Difrent:
Everyone knows the Iboman is his own greatest enemy.... Your article stopped being interesting when you mentioned that ibos supported Nnamdi Azikwe to become eastern region president after losing to awolowo in the west, thereby edging out Oyo ita....for goodness sake why would nnamdi azikwe leave the premiership of his own region and be struggling with a yorubaman for the premiership of western region if not greed! He lost out and came back home and unfairly removed Oyo ita because he is not an iboman.
This is the real nature of the iboman and we are seeing the same thing since they lost elections in 2015 ,shameless people.

selemempe:

Fatherofdragons:
I find this thread completely unnecessary.

Igbos don't need to explain themselves to others cuz no matter what you do or say they'll still believe the nonsense.

Igbos have their faults and so do other ethnic groups but igbos are mostly singled out for the slightest things, things that when done by others are suspiciously overlooked.

Fatherofdragons:
I find this thread completely unnecessary.

Igbos don't need to explain themselves to others cuz no matter what you do or say they'll still believe the nonsense.

Igbos have their faults and so do other ethnic groups but igbos are mostly singled out for the slightest things, things that when done by others are suspiciously overlooked.

mrvitalis:

If igbos oppressed ijaws how would eyo ita become premiere of the eastern region

Whats igbo business with ogoni ...even when an ogoni man betray us for the north
It was still same igbos that fought when north wanted to kill him

Igbos believe in merit , can u compete if u can welcome on bored

In UNN its more likely for a bayelsian or deltan or even edo to get admission than an igbo person ...UNN give them lower cut off and give Imo and anambra the highest cut off

Iseac boro than went on to say rubbish was an SUG president in an igbo dominated school

Show we one evidence were igbos margibalized the ijaws

helinues:
Is Ebonyi not part of old eastern region? Why are they referring to them as Wawa? Brotherly name?

Those who practiced OSU back then that were outcast, did they migrate from Burundi to old eastern region?

Let even assumed your story line is through, was is it old SW people that were oppressing Ijaws and Ogini?

You should have written the article without lumping Yoruba's to it, but guess what, your people can never do it even for a day.

You guys are the enemy of yourself..

selemempe:

Wawa is not ebonyi but Enugu...meanwhile the same wawa region became the capital of the eastern region and hosted the 1st university in nigeria. Wawa is not a hate name mind u...i am a wawa man just as onitsha man is an agbaenu man....u wont understand sha

Osu caste system is entirely wat most of u dont understand. They are not slaves and nobody forced anybody to be osu. They are ppl who dedicated their life to the gods. Their family are only allowed to marry themselves because its believed they are highly spiritual. It became an issue in the 1970s due to yoruba media hype

The oppression of ijaws the eastern region was not nearly as bad as the oppression of ijaws and edos in the old western region. They couldnt take it anymore they had to leave

Lumping yorubas to it is the moral of the story. Such a thing would never have been heard if not for the voice the yorubas lent to it to spite the igbos

The yorubas are the friends of themselves but just last week oro worshippers were looking for muslim women to kill in oyo in 2019 instagram year. Chai

helinues:


So why is the op lumping Yoruba's into this when your people on this same thread dont want united Igbo?