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Conversion Of Emperor Constantine To Christianity.Blessing Or Curse? by daddymummy(m): 10:33pm On Oct 13, 2019 |
In the bible college which i am currently studying to become a pastor, a lot has been taught us in the courses called 'Church history 1' and 'Church history 2'. We have been taught how emperor Constantine converted to christianity, how he stopped the persecution of christians, and how he subsequently made christianity the official religion of the Roman emperor. Emperer Constantine started ruling in 288 AD. But according to the lecturer, the conversion of the emperor to christianity lead to a fall in some christian principles. One of the fallout of emperor Constantine conversion was the coming of catholism. The lecturer gave the impression that the conversion was not good for christianity. He then gave this assignment: Was the conversion of emperor Constantine to christianity a blessing or a curse? Discus. If you have any idea on this issue, please feel free to express it. |
Re: Conversion Of Emperor Constantine To Christianity.Blessing Or Curse? by tsinzu: 11:29pm On Oct 13, 2019 |
Curse, that's when politics entered the Church and they started compromising with pagan beliefs 1 Like |
Re: Conversion Of Emperor Constantine To Christianity.Blessing Or Curse? by sonmvayina(m): 7:26am On Oct 14, 2019 |
Emperor Constantine did not convert to Christianity.... Emperor Constantine created it himself... He wanted a single religion for his empire... He called together the council of nicea, it was that council that created Jesus and Christianity.... 1 Like |
Re: Conversion Of Emperor Constantine To Christianity.Blessing Or Curse? by daddymummy(m): 7:27am On Oct 14, 2019 |
It is true o. I never thought about the politics aspect of it. Politics entered the church. tsinzu: |
Re: Conversion Of Emperor Constantine To Christianity.Blessing Or Curse? by RandomGuy48: 7:41am On Oct 14, 2019 |
Too complicated a subject for me to really weigh in on, but I want to correct this: daddymummy:Constantine did not make Christianity the official religion. He simply legalized it in the Edict of Milan. It was a later emperor, Theodosius, who made it the official religion in the Edict of Thessalonica, given over 40 years after Constantine had died. sonmvayina:Utter nonsense. Christianity existed for centuries prior to Constantine and Nicaea. Nicaea did not "create" Jesus and Christianity, its actual purpose was to resolve what was known as the "Arian Controversy", a dispute about whether Jesus was eternal or not (there was not, as some will claim, disagreement on whether Jesus was divine--both sides agreed on this). But everyone agreed on the other basics of the faith, i.e. the life of Jesus, the Bible, etc. This council did not "create" Jesus and Christianity. 1 Like |
Re: Conversion Of Emperor Constantine To Christianity.Blessing Or Curse? by tartar9(m): 8:32am On Oct 14, 2019 |
Without him,Christianity would still be a minority faith or probably even be extinct. |
Re: Conversion Of Emperor Constantine To Christianity.Blessing Or Curse? by daddymummy(m): 9:28am On Oct 14, 2019 |
Ok. But i also believe that God could have ended the persecution in another just as He arrested Paul and stopped Paul's persecution of christians. tartar9: |
Re: Conversion Of Emperor Constantine To Christianity.Blessing Or Curse? by sonmvayina(m): 10:01am On Oct 14, 2019 |
RandomGuy48: That is what they told you... But we actually know more than that... Well, the gospel stories comes from ancient tales about marduk... Marduk is the son of Enki.. It was at the council of Nicea that Athanasius said he was both God and man and thereafter a history was forged for him.... The Messiah God promised the jews is a mortal man like me and you he is coming to rule In an earthly Kingdom and a peaceful world.. God never said he was coming to die for sins as God has already given a solution to the problem of sin in the old testament read 2nd chronicle 7 :14 |
Re: Conversion Of Emperor Constantine To Christianity.Blessing Or Curse? by RandomGuy48: 7:00pm On Oct 14, 2019 |
sonmvayina:As far as I can tell, the supposed "similarities" are so vague they are essentially worthless. It was at the council of Nicea that Athanasius said he was both God and man and thereafter a history was forged for him....Jesus being both God and man was agreed upon by both Athanasius and Arius, the two sides in the dispute; there was no argument concerning that fact. And before then, Jesus being both God and man was stated by many Christian writers. Heck, forget extrabiblical testimony, it's stated in the Bible itself (most notably John 10:30), which was written well before Nicaea (as evidenced by physical manuscripts of it existing beforehand). The idea it was Athanasius who came up with this idea is absurd. The Messiah God promised the jews is a mortal man like me and youWhere does it explicitly state this? Or perhaps more accurately, where does this explicitly state this in a way that does not work with Christianity? Jesus, while divine, was a "mortal man" in the sense that he was born, grew up, and was killed. he is coming to rule In an earthly Kingdom and a peaceful world..Which will occur after the Second Coming. God never said he was coming to die for sinsIsaiah 53. And before anyone says "but that's a prophecy about Israel, not the Messiah" I should note that it being a messianic prophecy was an interpretation that the Jews themselves held--even for centuries after the birth of Christianity. It wasn't until long afterwards that it became the Jewish interpretation that it referred specifically and solely to Israel. as God has already given a solution to the problem of sin in the old testament read 2nd chronicle 7 :142 Chronicles 7:14 is referring to forgiving the collective sin of the nation of Israel, not individual sins of individual people. |
Re: Conversion Of Emperor Constantine To Christianity.Blessing Or Curse? by Nobody: 7:51pm On Oct 14, 2019 |
daddymummy: I don't know if the conversion of Constantine to Christianity was a curse, but whatever was responsible for the derailment from the original standard of Christianity is, so if it was his conversion, then It certainly was. Maybe that was one of the "while men slept" moments in the respect of the parable of the tares that Jesus taught, which was when the devil was able to come into the church and sow his tares. So he may have been one of the tares that Satan sowed, even though at the time, some of the christians may have been relieved and thought it was God because he stopped the persecution of christians. But it all depends on the big "IF"! |
Re: Conversion Of Emperor Constantine To Christianity.Blessing Or Curse? by MuttleyLaff: 8:23pm On Oct 14, 2019 |
tartar9: daddymummy:"And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, a small rock and upon the large rock I will build my congregation {Gr. ekklesia – called out ones}, and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against her" - Matthew 16:18 |
Re: Conversion Of Emperor Constantine To Christianity.Blessing Or Curse? by MuttleyLaff: 8:23pm On Oct 14, 2019 |
daddymummy: MuttleyLaff:Be careful what you wish for daddymummy, as you never know who will be listening and as a result of that, what you wished for might come true, just like as in above. daddymummy, dont mind about whether the conversion of Constantine was/is a blessing or curse, because we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to His purpose however know this much that, if only more christians properly read their bibles there'd be less christians. |
Re: Conversion Of Emperor Constantine To Christianity.Blessing Or Curse? by gobuchinny: 9:27am On Oct 16, 2019 |
sonmvayina: Foolish talk of a blind man. Created Yeshua? . Even roman historian wrote on the killing of a Jewish criminal called christus . Jewish history proves the existence of Yeshua so what's this foolish you r spitting . Lazy man. You know history of your company and village but dont know the history of the world. Atleast simple google search will clear this great folloshness Yeshua is real. He walked in this earth. When you die you will see His face. Because He is the best one that will judge you Continue. |
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