chyz:

Delta state does not move when itsekiri moves so the way you put it is incorrect. whatever itsekiri does na their own business. Don't say Delta State, There are igbos from delta state and they will definitely go with their brothers. Also there is Urhobo/Isoko in Delta State and they have a mind of their own. Once again We are talking about ND Republic also so keep that in mind. And Warri is a volital area you cannot call warri by itsekiri. The Olu there is olu of his own people, not "Warri".

There is no way you can force them to declare independence and then join Biafra, lol. When you divide a country, people get to go where they want. If the Itsekiri say no, they have enough people within Warri to block a vote. Remember, usually the United Nations requires something like 75%+ or some other really high number when voting. There is no way you are going to get the required number to cause Warri or Delta to join Biafra if the Itsekiri block it.

It isn't simple majority vote.

alj harem:

gbam

itsekiri is a dialect of ijebu

but they oringnated from the benin kingdom

ijaw people are not the 4th largest ethnic group, it is just a political slogan by obj

ijaws are not the owner of warri

The title one of the city's traditional ruler, the Olu of Warri, was formerly known as the Olu of Itsekiri. When the title was changed by Awolowo's Western Nigeria government from Olu of Itsekiri to Olu of Warri in 1952, members of the other tribes (Urhobos, Isokos and Ijaws) saw this as an attempt to impose an Itsekiri ruler over them.[1] The title dispute has led to series of clashes between the tribes in Warri over sovereignty.

DapoBear:

There is no way you can force them to declare independence and then join Biafra, lol. When you divide a country, people get to go where they want. If the Itsekiri say no, they have enough people within Warri to block a vote. Remember, usually the United Nations requires something like 75%+ or some other really high number when voting. There is no way you are going to get the required number to cause Warri or Delta to join Biafra if the Itsekiri block it.

It isn't simple majority vote.

Duh,about the people wanting to go where they want. I pointed that out for you long ago.Look drop the Igbo sentiment, you are the only one stuck on the Biafra stuff we are discuss itsekiri and ND Republic. Now show me anywhere where i talked about itsekiri going to Biarfra or people being forced against their will. Point it out so we can get this thing going.

jason12345:

am itsekiri ooooo! we are not going with the igbos and ijaws to any biafra!!!

just wanted to make that clear. by the way, warri is not, i repeat not ijaw land. if it was, we wouldn't have olu of warri

Dude, calm down. That title is Awolowo's curse on Warri, the capital of Itsekiri land is called Ode Itsekiri, in fact the land the Olu's palace is on was bought from an Urhobo man. Before Awo came in with his madness, that title was Olu of Itsekiri. The reason why the Itsekiri's have been at war with Urhobo and Ijaw and is that they are the only ones who do not aknowledge that Ijaw people gave all of us land (Isoko, Urhobo and Itsekiri).

That said, we should be putting all that behind and forging a new future.

chyz:

Duh,about the people wanting to go where they want. I pointed that out for you long ago.Look drop the Igbo sentiment, you are the only one stuck on the Biafra stuff we are discuss itsekiri and ND Republic. Now show me anywhere where i talked about itsekiri going to Biarfra or people being forced against their will. Point it out so we can get this thing going.

The same applies to issues that occur in forming a hypothetic ND Republic. None of the individual groups can be railroaded, they'll have to come up with an equitable consensus that they all agree on.

DapoBear:

The same applies to issues that occur in forming a hypothetic ND Republic. None of the individual groups can be railroaded, they'll have to come up with an equitable consensus that they all agree on.

Agreed.

If there is an equitable union in which population is negated as a political intrument, ND people wouldnt mind being with the Igbo's. But I see an ND state as more likely and with the presence of Delta state people, we should be able to work out a system where etnic population does not count; that will be necessary to protect our smallest groups, the Itsekiri and the Isoko.

Beaf:

If there is an equitable union in which population is negated as a political intrument, ND people wouldnt mind being with the Igbo's. But I see an ND state as more likely and with the presence of Delta state people, we should be able to work out a system where etnic population does not count; that will be necessary to protect our smallest groups, the Itsekiri and the Isoko.

who told u itsekiri is a small group

alj harem:

who told u itsekiri is a small group

Sometimes I think theres only beans between your ears, why don't you ask what you don't know?

which oil dey south east you make laugh. you be ogbologbo 419.

becomrich4:

which oil dey south east you make laugh. you be ogbologbo 419.

You make all of us laugh.

becomrich4:

which oil dey south east you make laugh. you be ogbologbo 419.

Hrm, does anyone have approximate demographic figures for Delta State?

Anyway, this isn't the stone age. Even if the Itsekiri are only 10% of the population of the state, nobody is going to allow them to be railroaded. I guess it is helpful for a smaller group like the Itsekiri to have a big brother in the Yoruba. Not to mention that the rest of the world will be watching what occurs.

It shouldn't be hard to resolve the issues. If it turns out that Warri is not a majority Itsekiri city (which is almost certainly the case), then it would be unjust for the Itsekiri to have sole primacy there. However, this doesn't mean they will be enslaved in their own homeland. If necessary, downgrade the Olu of Warri to the Olu of Itsekiri. In exchange, the Ijaw should offer something as well. Give and take from both sides; we should be able to find a compromise that leaves everyone slightly unhappy, but mostly satisfied.

Beaf:

Sometimes I think theres only beans between your ears, why don't you ask what you don't know?

sharrp

do u know that itsekiri is the 5th largest group in nigeria after ijaw

there about 2-3million itsekiri so what are u talking about

do not check wikipedia becuase it can be edited any time

DapoBear:

Hrm, does anyone have approximate demographic figures for Delta State?

Anyway, this isn't the stone age. Even if the Itsekiri are only 10% of the population of the state, nobody is going to allow them to be railroaded. I guess it is helpful for a smaller group like the [b]Itsekiri to have a big brother [/b]in the Yoruba. Not to mention that the rest of the world will be watching what occurs.

It shouldn't be hard to resolve the issues. If it turns out that Warri is not a majority Itsekiri city (which is almost certainly the case), then it would be unjust for the Itsekiri to have sole primacy there. However, this doesn't mean they will be enslaved in their own homeland. If necessary, downgrade the Olu of Warri to the Olu of Itsekiri. In exchange, the Ijaw should offer something as well. Give and take from both sides; we should be able to find a compromise that leaves everyone slightly unhappy, but mostly satisfied.

and also the northerners and kanuris from the borno empire.

alj harem:

sharrp


do u know that itsekiri is the 5th largest group in nigeria after ijaw

there about 2-3million itsekiri so what are u talking about

do not check wikipedia becuase it can be edited any time

The dumbest comment that I've heard all day.You must have got that information out of your azz.

chyz:

The dumbest comment that I've heard all day.You must have got that information out of your azz.

i don't even understand the guy

jason12345:

i don't even understand the guy

chyz:

The dumbest comment that I've heard all day.You must have got that information out of your azz.

what dumbest comment

i tell u the 5th largest group in nigeria is itsekiri of population of 2-3 million people

u people just want to classify them as ijaw,,,,, NO
they have rights also

Lets be honest, the Itsekiri have powerful allies in the Yoruba. Many Yoruba consider these people as the same as them. Likewise, the Anioma Igbo have allies amongst the hinterland Igbo.

And I wonder how the Ijaw population jumped over the Itsekiri people to be native to Ondo State.

EzeUche0:

Lets be honest, the Itsekiri have powerful allies in the Yoruba. Many Yoruba consider these people as the same as them. Likewise, the Anioma Igbo have allies amongst the hinterland Igbo.

Yep. Any attempts to cheat them or oppress them will be vigorously opposed.

PS: How long have you been in PG County? How do you like it there? I'm surprised that you can live in the heart of Yorubaland in America and be so opposed to my people

EzeUche0:

Lets be honest, the Itsekiri have powerful allies in the Yoruba. Many Yoruba consider these people as the same as them. Likewise, the Anioma Igbo have allies amongst the hinterland Igbo.

look, the sooner ikweerri, ika etc see themselves as one(igbo), the better it is for them in nigeria

if the igbos can not speak with one voice, then they would be politically irrelevant to nigeria

the ijaws are shifting igbos away from power, day by day

alj harem:

what dumbest comment  

i tell u the 5th largest group in nigeria is itsekiri of population of 2-3 million people

u people just want to classify them as ijaw,,,,, NO
they have rights also

Beccomerich you're very funny. We both know northerners no nothing about the tribes in the ND. They think we all are Igbo. You cover is really weak. Next time do better.

alj harem:

what dumbest comment

i tell u the 5th largest group in nigeria is itsekiri of population of 2-3 million people

u people just want to classify them as ijaw,,,,, NO
they have rights also

You can't even understand that jason12345 is an Itsekiri guy, you're just wasting your bullets and tormenting your own brain!
Becomerich must be getting jealous that somebody can just drop out Sokoto state and destroy his hard earned reputation within a few short days!
Dude, I hail!

I've also got itsekiri blood from both my parents too.

DapoBear:

Yep. Any attempts to cheat them or oppress them will be vigorously opposed.

PS: How long have you been in PG County? How do you like it there? I'm surprised that you can live in the heart of Yorubaland in America and be so opposed to my people  

I been in PG County for 4 years. My parents had a house built in this county, and they gave it to my siblings and I since they enjoy living in Port Harcourt more. I like PG County, it is VERY black. A lot of wealthy Black Americans and Nigerians. And yes, there are a lot of Yorubas in PG County. I should of went to school in Houston where there are lot of Igbos. However, I have noticed more Igbos live in the Baltimore area than the DC area.

chyz:

Beccomerich you're very funny. We both know northerners no nothing about the tribes in the ND. They think we all are Igbo. You cover is really weak. Next time do better.

i am not becomrich, abi

what is ur problem with me becoming becomrich

i am not becomrich

i am tried of thisoooooo

Beaf:

You can't even understand that jason12345 is an Itsekiri guy, you're just wasting your bullets and tormenting your own brain!
Becomerich must be getting jealous that somebody can just drop out Sokoto state and destroy his hard earned reputation within a few short days!
Dude, I hail!

I've also got itsekiri blood from both my parents too.

true!!!

To be honest, I have always doubted the Ijaw population number. They cannot be the largest ethnic group in the South-South. The Ibibio, Annang, and Efik people have the numbers. I am not saying this, because I am half Igbo

EzeUche0:

Lets be honest, the Itsekiri have powerful allies in the Yoruba. Many Yoruba consider these people as the same as them. Likewise, the Anioma Igbo have allies amongst the hinterland Igbo.

And I wonder how the Ijaw population jumped over the Itsekiri people to be native to Ondo State.

Ol' boy! the last thing any so called giant wants is to involve themseves in Delta state matters; it will end in tears (abi you no hear wetin small Tompolo do JTF?).
There's something about the people that makes them lions among men, when they say, "Warri no de carry last" you bera believe it o!

Does anybody have any information of how the Ijaws ended up in Ondo? I want to ask before i give my thoughts.

Beaf:

Ol' boy! the last thing any so called giant wants is to involve themseves in Delta state matters; it will end in tears (abi you no hear wetin small Tompolo do JTF?).
There's something about the people that makes them lions among men, when they say, "Warri no de carry last" you bera believe it o!

Well, there are always ways to involve yourself that are not obvious. Money, for one. It isn't as if Yoruba would be dumb enough to send a bunch of us directly to Warri and fight there or something.


EDIT: redundancies removed

EzeUche0:

To be honest, I have always doubted the Ijaw population number. They cannot be the largest ethnic group in the South-South. The Ibibio, Annang, and Efik people have the numbers. I am not saying this, because I am half Igbo

ijaws are not even the largest ethnic group in nigerdelta

it just a political move by obj

there are isoko, itsekiri, efik, yorubas, igbos, ibibios, annang,ogoni,ekoi, esan, etc that made up nigerdelta

so how come ijaw is the largest of them

and with what population

lies i tell u, lies

Beaf:

Ol' boy! the last thing any so called giant wants is to involve themseves in Delta state matters; it will end in tears (abi you no hear wetin small Tompolo do JTF?).
There's something about the people that makes them lions among men, when they say, "Warri no de carry last" you bera believe it o!

I agree with you. Delta state is too much for the Igbo. We will leave that to the Ika, Ukwuani and Anioma.

And we all know how you Warri boys get down. You wont see me claiming ownership of that town.