oyb:

these con men worshippers are pathetic

before it was bad belle

now it is leave emegwali alone

keep weeping and wringing your hands for your toppled idol

DapoBear:

Basically, you are confusing two different titles, people can cal you "Doctor" once you have a PhD. People can call you "Professor" if a university decides to hire you as a Professor. In the hard sciences/engineering a PhD is usually a prerequisite to being hired as a Prof. In fields like literature, law, journalism, they are not. You don't even need to necessarily even have any degree to be a professor of literature; in literature, you are primarily judged on the strength of the works you've written.

Anyway, Emeagwali is in the hard sciences/engineering, where a PhD is required before becoming a Professor, while Soyinka and Achebe are writers, where the PhD is not.

In fact, nobody can call Emeagwali a Professor, since he was never hired as a tenure-tracked professor at any university. At best, he could be called "Doctor." And this is only if he earned a PhD somewhere. I'm not even sure if an honorary doctorate allows you to be called "Doctor", I'm a bit fuzzy about the protocol for honorary degrees.

DapoBear:

Basically, you are confusing two different titles, people can cal you "Doctor" once you have a PhD. People can call you "Professor" if a university decides to hire you as a Professor. In the hard sciences/engineering a PhD is usually a prerequisite to being hired as a Prof. In fields like literature, law, journalism, they are not. You don't even need to necessarily even have any degree to be a professor of literature; in literature, you are primarily judged on the strength of the works you've written.

Anyway, Emeagwali is in the hard sciences/engineering, where a PhD is required before becoming a Professor, while Soyinka and Achebe are writers, where the PhD is not.

In fact, nobody can call Emeagwali a Professor, since he was never hired as a tenure-tracked professor at any university. At best, he could be called "Doctor." And this is only if he earned a PhD somewhere. I'm not even sure if an honorary doctorate allows you to be called "Doctor", I'm a bit fuzzy about the protocol for honorary degrees.

Environer:

Do you agree that both Achebe and Soyinka do not have MA degrees? Do you agree that it is questionable how they became profs in Nigeria with BA degrees? I know that in the USA, a prof can be defined ranging from the meaning of it as we Nigerians see it, to an instructor or even anyone professing anything. In that case, both Soyinka and Achebe are okay with the title they bear. But here in naija we know what a prof means? Now tell me, did both men first become profs in naija or abroad?

Environer:

Do you agree that both Achebe and Soyinka do not have MA degrees? Do you agree that it is questionable how they became profs in Nigeria with BA degrees? I know that in the USA, a prof can be defined ranging from the meaning of it as we Nigerians see it, to an instructor or even anyone professing anything. In that case, both Soyinka and Achebe are okay with the title they bear. But here in naija we know what a prof means. Now tell me, did both men first become profs in naija or abroad? If abroad, I rest my case but if in Naija, then questions should be asked as to how BA degree holders became profs

DapoBear:

You miss the point. For their specific field of endeavor (literature), paper certificates are less important. I could get a BS in Chemical Engineering, work for 20 years as an engineer for Chevron, and write literature part time, say at night when I get home from work. If the literature I write becomes famous enough, I can then quite possibly be invited to be a professor of literature somewhere.

However, mathematics, engineering and hard science are not like this. I cannot get a BS in Chemical Engineering and then spend the next 20 years dabbling in Mathematics, write brilliant papers and then be offered a professorship somewhere. Well, it is possible, but extremely unlikely, you would have to be some sort of super, super genius to do this. And if you were that smart (and I don't mean smart relative to average human beings, I mean smart relative to the best mathematicians in the world), then you'd just go back to school and get the PhD in 2 years, then apply for tenure-track professorships.

Anyway, this is how it works in the US. I have no clue how it works in Nigeria.

Anyway, long story short, Emeagwali never even got to the point where he could ever be called a professor in the US in hard sciences. You need to write good papers and have them accepted at prdstigous journals, basically. I don't think he he wrote any papers. I googled his name and couldn't find any, anyway. So the way it works is you write a bunch of good papers, apply for a job at a university, interview, and then hopefully get the job offer (for a tenure-track position, as opposed to some sort of non-tenure track lecturer/instructor position.) Emeagwali didn't do any of this.

becomrich4:

DapoBear , where are you getting that from. i went to take some course here in canada, when the professor only worked for IBM. And he does not have a PHD. And it was in the area of engineering.

How do you think white people transfer knowledge from the science world to the universities. If you are into accademic all your life. You dont have update of new technology. THe new technology are transfer to people in the accademic field through workers in places life IBM, Microsoft, google etc.

Look I am not boosting, but I know many thing a professor in the field of computer have no clue to . Do you think I can transfer something to him. The problem in nigeria is that people are too proud to learn. So assume because they have a PHD they are superior to others. That is not so. PHD does not make you superior. I am telling I know s many thing in the field of computer science , if you put all the professor of computer science, they all would not find solution to it.

If I die with what I know, I do the next generation benefit from it. It because a waste. Even if you look at some of the information I give on nigeria history most professor of history in nigeria, do not know them. That  why they give them professorship even when they do not have a PHD to be able to transfer knowledge.

Environer:

And where did Emeagwali claim to be a prof? Some of you just join the fray without a good grasp of the facts. Please show me where he claims to be a professor in science.

Environer:

Bantering words with an avowed Saraki arse-licker is not worth the trouble. When you and your thieving Saraki family leave Kwara alone we can talk some more

Aigbofa:


Let's assume for a minute that Soyinka and Achebe were fruadsters, how does this absolve Emeagwali from allegations that he lied about his credentials.

This is not about Soyinka or Achebe, this is about Emeagwali. Let every man be judged according to his deeds.

DapoBear:

When did I say he did? All I know is that he lets people call him what he is not in interviews without correcting them. Anyway, my purpose was to answer your original question; when did the onus get put on me to dissect what he did and did not claim? You are the one starting the thread, not I.

oyb:

me, an avowed saraki backside licker - shows the sort of intelligence to be expected of these unrepentant worshippers at the altar of duplicity and mediocrity - idiotic conjecture and desperate personal attacks

pele , nd, oya go and do what nigerians do best - organise an honorary phd for your hero

Eziachi:

Based on your supposed assumption, who did he lied to? When and were? And when was the lied to person, organisation or body found out? What was their reaction and punishment for this deception according to your gospel? These three question is nott just for you, but the rest of you who did not even know the existence of the person they are now authority on his life history few months ago.

Environer:

Do these names and their claims ring any bell?

-Prof Gabriel Oyibo and his almighty GAGUT formula
-IBB- who exagerated his contribution to the civil war
-Prof Uwemedimo and his Comandclem claiming to have discovered a paint product worth billions that Mobil Oil company used and refuses to pay for
-Prof Chike Obi who claimed to have found an elementary proof to Fermat’s Last Theorem.
-Yabatech that once (looks like they have changed it on their website now) claimed to be the third oldest higher institution of learning in the world and first in Africa
-Dr Abalaka who claimed to have found a cure for AIDS
-Another Nigerian (names forgotten) claimed to be able to cure AIDS with orange juice
-Prophet Joshua claims to be able to cure everything
-Thousands of our lawyers, doctors, academicians, politicians, school teachers, civil servants, private sector executives and staff all hold one false certificate or another
-Take a look at this FAKE man who practiced law for many years before he was caught http://www.punchng.com/Articl.aspx?t, 00902223264739
-We still remember the Toronto certificate saga of our former Speaker Salisu Buhari, and Tinubu's legal battle with Fawehinmi on account of a fake Chicago certificate of Tinubu's.
- Even Prof Iwu's certificates were once questioned, as are those of the current Controller General of the Nigerian Customs
- Was Obasanjo not said to hold a Higher National Diploma? Pray, tell, from where did he obtain it?

Aigbofa:

Does the word "allegations" mean anything to you. He is alleged to parade himself as Dr. Emeagwali without having a doctorate degree. He is also accused of exagerating his contributions to computing and the internet.

These are serious allegations and only him can dispel them. Not me, not Soyinka or Achebe.

Aigbofa:


You don't get it do you? Even if all these people are liars, it still does not absolve Emeagwali of guilt!

DapoBear:

However, mathematics, engineering and hard science are not like this. I cannot get a BS in Chemical Engineering and then spend the next 20 years dabbling in Mathematics, write brilliant papers and then be offered a professorship somewhere. Well, it is possible, but extremely unlikely, you would have to be some sort of super, super genius to do this. And if you were that smart (and I don't mean smart relative to average human beings, I mean smart relative to the best mathematicians in the world), then you'd just go back to school and get the PhD in 2 years, then apply for tenure-track professorships.

tensor777:

What's all this wooly talk of hard sciences and soft sciences? .
In the first place by writing brilliant research papers in maths or physics then you are[b] already [/b] an expert.

However it is very unlikely that, if not impossible,  an amateur, so to say, would be able to write brilliant research papers in maths and physics in the first place, especially in  these highly specialised times.

He certainly won't be able to do anything original by just dabbling over a 20 year period. And no it has nothing to do with being smarter than his peers. In fact it is the grinding hard work,commitment and dedication that makes the best physicists stand out not just mere smartness.

Those caveats notwithstanding there is nothing stopping a man for applying for and being granted teaching and research positions in academia if he is indeed able to author such brilliant research papers.

Superego:

Totally ignorant! I call this- "Ignorants" or "ignorance with confidence" IWC

Emeagwali IS a Professor
Once you profess, you are a professor!

Get a life. get your life. Achieve something, stop throwing stones at your own feet. :lol:


http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/professor


pro·fes·sor
   /prəˈfɛsər/ Show Spelled[pruh-fes-er] Show IPA
–noun
1.
a teacher of the highest academic rank in a college or university, who has been awarded the title Professor in a particular branch of learning; a full professor: a professor of spanish literature.
2.
any teacher who has the rank of professor, associate professor, or assistant professor.
3.
a teacher.
4.
an instructor in some art or skilled sport: a professor of singing; a professor of boxing.
5.
a person who professes his or her sentiments, beliefs, etc.

Superego:

Can you kindly tell us his guilt.

Rather post it here and win N20,000 for your weekend merriment!

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