Image123:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-lynMwN6bg

petra1:



NICE VIDEO ,THANKS

MuttleyLaff:
Image123, I think you're nitpicking and was hypercritical about this man's short video clip. Almost everything under the sun, in the traditional or old-fashioned era years ago, was a big issue for everyone and not just them, BLW.

Lastly, there is nothing wrong in women wearing trousers/pants Image123. Are you saying Mrs Image123 and the Misses Image123 dont wear and/or havent ever worn a pair of trousers/pants ni?

1StopRudeness:
Some of the Old Testament “don’t Do” laws given to the Israelites were practices sinful nations around them engaged in...and God or Moses ddnt want them doing or identify with those practices....and that goes for Deut. 22v5 which is actually about cross dressing and not just a “woman wearing trousers” cos that’s the only thing people bring up once that verse comes up.:
Cross dressing: ie being a “bobrisky or a “Denrele” .....:simply put: Men wearing women clothes /accessories and vice versa was a common practice among pagans even during Old Testament times....now common among the LGBT and transgender folks in these mordern times
That said.... It’s not a sin for a woman to wear trousers or a man to wear skirt once the aim is not be a “bobrisky”

MuttleyLaff:
Please be balanced and non-discriminatory. Also, please find it in you, to be truthful the fact and honest to admit that it is specifically the idolatory pagan ritual custom of cross dressing that's the underlying reason of concern to God

Bobrisky and/or Denrele's livelihoods depend on being a Bobrisky or Denrele

1StopRudeness:
Discrimination?? Who are u people seff? So if prostitution is wrong, it doesn’t matter if a lady does it so far it’s a means of livelihood...so it will be discrimination to say say prostitution is wrong....why don’t u hail our politicians then..,since stealing and injustice is wrong, but we all know that’s practically what they do for living....
Mayb u should clear me well, cos I’m not getting u..are u saying it’s discrimination to call yahoo boys fraudsters because its technically their means of livelihood..

MuttleyLaff:
1StopRudeness, fyi, according to the Nigerian Criminal Code, prostitution is not wrong if performed by an independent individual who operates on his/her own accord without the use of pimps or a brothel. OK? Now, 1StopRudeness please tell me
1/ What wrong exactly, has Bobrisky or Denrele personally done to you or anyone else for that matter, hmm?
2/ Have you evidence or proof of Bobrisky or Denrele stealing, hmm?
3/ What specifically is the injustice Bobrisky or Denrele have done that you've wronged them over?
4/ What has having to call yahoo boys fraudsters now got to do with Bobrisky or Denrele?

1StopRudeness:
I want to continue this conversation but it’s like u are an expert in reacting to comment out of context....
first this thread is riding on a religious context....and u quoting constitution....do u understand at all that something can be morally wrong but ethically right...or religiously wrong but constitutionally right....please try and get the context....I was explaining how Deuteronomy 28v5 isn’t about women wearing trousers ..bobrisky ddnt offend me, bobrisky isn’t even the topic of my comment...

Again... You are asking me how calling yahoo boys fraudsters is related to bobrisky....where did u see me call bobrisky a Theif..Did u see my comment relate yahoo boys or stealing to bobrisky??
See, the way u interprete information is clearly not on the same jurisdiction as me...

MuttleyLaff:
It is nothing about being any expert anywhere or on anything, but its more of not being afraid to tell it as it is

1StopRudeness, seems you want to have your cake and eat it. When I advised you to be balanced and non-discriminatory, was it not you who said:
So if prostitution is wrong, it doesn’t matter if a lady does it so far it’s a means of livelihood...so it will be discrimination to say say prostitution is wrong

Why subjectively be bringing up "why don’t u hail our politicians then..,since stealing and injustice is wrong, but we all know that’s practically what they do for living.....are u saying it’s discrimination to call yahoo boys fraudsters because its technically their means of livelihood.. " into the conversation, when none have anything to do with Bobrisky or Denrele

You want to stay on Bible grounds abi, OK then, do you know that prostitutes are in the genealogy of our Lord Jesus Christ, hmm?

1StopRudeness:
Wait..are u not the one that opened the context of discrimination and livelihood..?? Yet u are asking me why responded with livelihood of yahooboys, politicians and prostitutes....now u want to respond to me u just randomly asked me about the lineage of Jesus and a prostitute...please what point are u trying to make this information in relation to this thread or in relation to my comment??

MuttleyLaff:
Image123, I think you're nitpicking and was hypercritical about this man's short video clip. Almost everything under the sun, in the traditional or old-fashioned era years ago, was a big issue for everyone and not just them, BLW alone.

Lastly, there is nothing wrong in women wearing trousers/pants Image123. Are you saying Mrs Image123 and the Misses Image123 dont wear and/or havent ever worn a pair of trousers/pants ni?

Image123:
i believe absolutely that it is wrong for ladies to wear pants for many reasons.

Michellekabod2:
I don't see anything wrong in trousers but the alibis pastor Chris gave are not ample to support wearing of trousers.
Why do people draw a margin between the old and new testament to support their points? Many Christian's have told me that Paul teaching on women's role in the church are his opinions,but those same people make references to his teaching as "word of God" when such teachings suits their arguments...

MuttleyLaff:
1StopRudeness, fyi, according[b] to the Nigerian Criminal Code, prostitution is not wrong if performed by an independent individual who operates on his/her own accord without the use of pimps or a brothel. [/b]OK? Now, 1StopRudeness please tell me
1/ What wrong exactly, has Bobrisky or Denrele personally done to you or anyone else for that matter, hmm?
2/ Have you evidence or proof of Bobrisky or Denrele stealing, hmm?
3/ What specifically is the injustice Bobrisky or Denrele have done that you've wronged them over?
4/ What has having to call yahoo boys fraudsters now got to do with Bobrisky or Denrele?

1StopRudeness:
Some of the Old Testament “don’t Do” laws given to the Israelites were practices sinful nations around them engaged in...and God or Moses ddnt want them doing or identify with those practices....and that goes for Deut. 22v5 which is actually about cross dressing and not just a “woman wearing trousers” cos that’s the only thing people bring up once that verse comes up.

Cross dressing: i.e. being a “Bobrisky or a “Denrele” .....:simply put: Men wearing women clothes /accessories and vice versa was a common practice among pagans even during Old Testament times....now common among the LGBT and transgender folks in these mordern times
That said.... It’s not a sin for a woman to wear trousers or a man to wear skirt once the aim is not be a “bobrisky”

MuttleyLaff:
Please be balanced and non-discriminatory. Also, please find it in you, to be truthful the fact and honest to admit that it is specifically the idolatory pagan ritual custom of cross dressing that's the underlying reason of concern to God

Bobrisky and/or Denrele's livelihoods depend on being a Bobrisky or Denrele

1StopRudeness:
Discrimination?? Who are u people seff? So if prostitution is wrong, it doesn’t matter if a lady does it so far it’s a means of livelihood...so it will be discrimination to say say prostitution is wrong....
why don’t u hail our politicians then..,since stealing and injustice is wrong, but we all know that’s practically what they do for living....
Mayb u should clear me well, cos I’m not getting u..are u saying it’s discrimination to call yahoo boys fraudsters because its technically their means of livelihood..

MuttleyLaff:
1StopRudeness, fyi, according to the Nigerian Criminal Code, prostitution is not wrong if performed by an independent individual who operates on his/her own accord without the use of pimps or a brothel. OK? Now, 1StopRudeness please tell me
1/ What wrong exactly, has Bobrisky or Denrele personally done to you or anyone else for that matter, hmm?
2/ Have you evidence or proof of Bobrisky or Denrele stealing, hmm?
3/ What specifically is the injustice Bobrisky or Denrele have done that you've wronged them over?
4/ What has having to call yahoo boys fraudsters now got to do with Bobrisky or Denrele?

Bodydialect57:
So the fact that the Nigerian Criminal Code supports prostitution means it's right? So you think because it's widely backed up means God's approval?

MuttleyLaff:
Image123, I think you're nitpicking and was hypercritical about this man's short video clip. Almost everything under the sun, in the traditional or old-fashioned era years ago, was a big issue for everyone and not just them, BLW alone.

Lastly, there is nothing wrong in women wearing trousers/pants Image123. Are you saying Mrs Image123 and the Misses Image123 dont wear and/or havent ever worn a pair of trousers/pants ni?

Michellekabod2:
I don't see anything wrong in trousers but the alibis pastor Chris gave are not ample to support wearing of trousers.
Why do people draw a margin between the old and new testament to support their points? Many Christian's have told me that Paul teaching on women's role in the church are his opinions,but those same people make references to his teaching as "word of God" when such teachings suits their arguments...

LordReed:


And the reasons are?

Image123:
i'm saying that it is wrong.

MuttleyLaff:
I heard or read you the first time saying it is wrong, so no need repeating.

Image123 nwanne, if I didnt know you not to be that sort of person, I would thought you seem to have ducked the questions:
Are you saying Mrs Image123 and any of the Misses Image123 dont wear and/or havent ever worn a pair of trousers/pants ni?

Is it wrong for Mrs Image123 to wear your t-shirt, polo shirt, boxer shorts, wrap your towel round herself, put on your socks, put on your jogging bottoms, hmm Image123?

Out of curiosity, why Image123, are you saying it is wrong for women to wear a pair of trousers/pants.

Advance warning Image123, I have previously said to Michellekabod2, that I am quite sure she does know that the Old Testament Deuteronomy 22:5 verse that is banded about and waved in people's faces, specifically is about the idolatory pagan ritual custom that cross dressing is associated with. That's the underlying reason of concern to God about cross dressing, it's the association with idolatry practices and pagan ritualistics done when and with wearing clothes of the opposite sex.

Image123:


We don't speak the same language na. How do you expect to understand me? How do i expect you to understand me?
Okay, let me give you one. Deuteronomy 22v5. This is for you alone oh, stay in your lane.

Image123:
But you are asking again na

Image123:
It is wrong.

Image123:
It depends on where they wear it and what she wears it for.

Image123:
Good question. Again, firstly and lastly, i will say that i am not talking about salvation or judgement or eternity. i think it will interest you, and perhaps stop you from further copying and pasting some of your questions, to note that i have very close/dear female ministers and 'mentors' that wear pants/slacks.

Image123:
Like Michellekabod2 has well stated, pastor Chris' reasons (which is a majority's reason for supporting women wearing trousers/pants) are not ample or sufficient. They are very weak.

Image123:
i say it is wrong among many reasons because one a woman should not wear what pertains/belongs to a man. Whatever underlying reason you may think for God saying it.

Image123:
Two, it erodes the distinction of the sexes/genders.

Image123:
Three, slacks actually reveal more of a woman's figure than conceal it. i say this not as a "killjoy" of some sort, but because from experience i've heard people argue that slacks cover properly/more than skirts. It actually gives a lot to the imagination than you would truthfully agree.

Image123:
Four, it has subtly empowered and spurred on the feminism agenda over the decades.

Image123:
Five, and i kid you not, from hearsay, some folks actually wear them to masturbate as they walk.

Image123:
Six, unfortunately, i need to say this because it's you you know. If not, you know i won't say it. i don't know whether you use afose to make me confess sometimes. God forgive my past and many menS past and present, for we have seen many a butt cleavage and undies forcefully because some pants wearing lady sat in front. It's almost impossible especially jeans trousers. Now muttley, ask God to forgive them and you too for you have been forced to such. With these few points of mine. i hope i have confused you that wearing pants is wrong. Thanks.
i have close.

LordReed:


So if you violate other things from that same Deuteronomy what does that make you?

MuttleyLaff:
Not a good enough excuse or reason to start acting like a broken vinyl record player now, or is it Image123

Here we go again, answer the question instead bleating "it is wrong" lol.
The question that you gave a wrong answer to, excuse the wrong pun, is:
"Are you saying Mrs Image123and any of the Misses Image123 dont wear and/or havent ever worn a pair of trousers/pants ni?"

Oh oh, there are distinctions now. We have exceptions now. Ah when it depends, we then can pick and choose where they wear it and what she wears it for. Hmm interesting revelation

Listen to yourself Image123. You sound similar to just like the far right racist, patting himself on the back with the comment: "I think it will interest you to note that I have very close/dear blacks as friends and mentors". Smh. lol

Though Pastor Chris is not fully woke, he did cover the subject with enough depth & aplomb I must say. There wasnt anything feeble. What he majorly left out and what made his edification insufficient and not enough is where he left out the idolatory pagan ritual custom that cross dressing is associated with. That's the underlying reason of concern to God about cross dressing. It is the association with idolatry practices and pagan ritualistics done when and with wearing clothes of the opposite sex that is detesting to God. This is what God dislikes and says its an abomination, period. Any other twisting and turning naa wash ojaare.

The truth is too difficult to believe

This is a man made idea, teaching as doctrines the precepts of men. Teaching human rules after turning God laws on its head!

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Whats the matter with the saying then: "Look the other way" This exactly what those men in the above photo ought to be doing now

Image123, in one of my previous work life, I have countless times, walked into stark näked women, though I looked at them yet I didnt see their näkedness, this is because I looked past them before advising them to quickly go put on a robe or go tie up a cloth wrapper

I truthfully agree that it was my missus attractive backa and sensual figure that got my first attention before her intelligence after getting to know her that. Other women flaunting their figures, is no excuse not to have self control, self restraint or self discipline now erhn? I know you'll agree to this and if so, who really has a problem here then, hmm? Too many weak men, shallow men all over town.

So? Dont men go about shirtless, dont men go about sleeveless showing bulging biceps ni?

and you have a problem with that. How has them masturbating with themselves wronged you or how has something like that taken a minute of your life erhn? I am only asking ni ooo, jor, biko no vex oo.

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Image123, please ignore the fearless cat in the above picture, that's a red herring, the real objects of interest in the above picture, are the self-disciplined Alsatian German Shepherd dogs, staying in their stations and not going chasing after the bold and without a care in the world taking a stroll in a beautiful bright sunning vitamin D day cat. That is the beauty of self-discipline, captured in "a picture is worth a thousand words" taken shot.

Some cats can be left to guard a fish without eating it and some can be given a bowl of milk to guard without licking it.
Now, if one is not fortified, if one is not grounded in the word of God, if one is not standing on the word of God, if one loses focus on God, if one hasnt the regard for God in him, like Joseph had (i.e. Genesis 39:9) and if one is not self disciplined, then one is giving the devil a freehand and easy access to try and exploit weakness or dent(s) in ones armour.

One has it or one doesnt has it Image123. You see Image123, one needs to grow and build up self restraint. King David lacked enough self-restraint, this is why upon seeing a näked Bathsheba, he was unable to restrain himself unable to hold it back together, look the other way, vacate immediately that vantage high point he was at seeing Bathsheba. The test of a man, just like in the garden of Eden is to have something too attractive and tempting before him to see how or how not he will resist. lol. There are too many weak males about who call themselves men, they are nothing than fake men, lol

Image123:


What you are of course.

LordReed:


An atheist? A human being?

MuttleyLaff:








Bodydialect57, please I beg you, dont pour marijuana, put and dump inside my pocket ooo, because where did you see or read that MuttleyLaff said anything about like prostitution is widely backed up then means has God's approval, hmm?

You can see from the above comments' trail how and who introduced prostitution. You can see that name shaming(s) and more were committed so advice was given to be balanced and non-discriminatory, but suddenly and out of nowhere, the moral high ground was climbed on and "prostitution is wrong" and whatnot were waved in the air, when the fact is, the Nigerian Criminal Code, says, prostitution is not wrong if performed by an independent individual who operates on his/her own accord without the use of pimps or a brothel and here you are Bodydialect57, words I never said you're trying to put in my mouth. Dont give the devil a foothold Bodydialect57.

Bodydialect57, fyi, what I think or what other people think about whether because prostitution is widely backed up, means God's approval doesnt carry weight or matters. Do you know why Bodydialect57, hmm?. It is because God is Just. JUST, as in, meaning, God is unprejudiced, God is non-discriminatory, God is tolerant, God is etcetera.

I think you're feeling me, so, back to, God is Just again. Now if God is Just, then, it actually means, God will judge every single act, say one like, that of prostitution for an example, on its own merits. Our learned friends in the legal fraternity will know what I am talking about here. Do you think the Person, in 1 John 2:1, who puts a case on someone else's behalf is beans ni? lol. As budaatum will say: "Those ignorant of the power of jazz/juju herbs, call it vegetable." Lol, "ase, oo mọ ogun, oun npe lẹfọ"

Image123:


A wretched sinner.