The most popular Yoruba dialect is now that of Lagos. That is without any English words.

I think most Yoruba still prefer Oyo dialect.

What do you say?

What are you saying
Lagos Yoruba is Oyo dialect
All of Yoruba from Lagos to kwara speaks Oyo dialect

Osaze007:
What are you saying
Lagos Yoruba is Oyo dialect
All of Yoruba from Lagos to kwara speaks Oyo dialect

Lagos Yoruba has different accent, tone and meaning but closer to Oyo.

Osaze007:
What are you saying
Lagos Yoruba is Oyo dialect
All of Yoruba from Lagos to kwara speaks Oyo dialect

Not so true. Despite the influence of Oyo's dialect, the lagos Yoruba is an all round Yoruba dialect with a funky accent,which is missing in Oyo dialect. It is as likened to Australian English which is an older form of spoken English compared to The British English which has undergone more modernity than the Australian's, despite the fact that history has that British citizens who were Criminals and rebels were taken into Australia during the earlier time in Britain's history as prisoners abode. Interestingly, today's American English accent is seen as an alternative by speakers of English language compared to the Teacher's accent, which is the Britain's.

The point is that Oyo dialect was in use at the beginning of Yoruba's contact with English people, when western education was brought to yoruba land. Th returnee slaves had knowledge of English language and use the Oyo dialect with infusion of Ijesa,Egba,Ekiti,Ijebu dialects etc to it. Thus, her dialect begun to be used within larger Yoruba populace while all dialects are still retained. Unlike other groups, Yoruba dialects has no substandard because they are same but many are older dialects, which are differentiated only by accent.

googi:

The most popular Yoruba dialect is now that of Lagos. That is without any English words.

I think most Yoruba still prefer Oyo dialect.

What do you say?

There are Yorubanised English words in Yoruba language though little. One example is Shop is which is Shobu. Another example is mummy which moimi/momi/maami etc.

googi:

The most popular Yoruba dialect is now that of Lagos. That is without any English words.

I think most Yoruba still prefer Oyo dialect.

What do you say?

By Oyo dialect do you mean standard Yoruba dialect?

The central Yoruba which is mutually intelligible across the southwest is a standardized form based on the Oyo dialect, it's not the actual dialect itself which btw is also intelligible everywhere in Yorubaland.


Lagos Yoruba is a modernized form and includes many "slang" words which together with regular ones, are often condensed in order to have faster communication.

Olu317:
There are Yorubanised English words in Yoruba language though little. One example is Shop is which is Shobu. Another example is mummy which moimi/momi/maami etc.

The Yoruba word for Shop/Stall is Isọ. 'shoobu' is a direct result of deliberate modernisms/infusion.

Not sure 'mama' is from english because in my dialect of Yoruba, mọmọ and yeye both mean grandmother, while iya and mama is mother. That might neeed further digging into.

Osaze007:
What are you saying
Lagos Yoruba is Oyo dialect
All of Yoruba from Lagos to kwara speaks Oyo dialect

Lagos Yoruba aka SMY Standard modern Yoruba) is a direct fusion of Oyo Yoruba and Egba Yoruba in equal measures, that has also since evolved leaving out all the funkyness and nasality that Oyo is notorious for.
Nobody goes around speaking Oyo Yoruba in everyday life in Lagos or anywhere outside Oyo areas except the older generation. You will be made fun of, seriously..

Osaze007:
What are you saying
Lagos Yoruba is Oyo dialect
All of Yoruba from Lagos to kwara speaks Oyo dialect

This is absolutely correct. The Lagos Yoruba is Oyo dialect with a little bit of Egba, Ijebu and Ondo dialect mixed with it. However, because these are also popular Yoruba dialects, its actually difficult to filter these minute mixed up. Hence, Oyo Yoruba is being spoken in Lagos.

It is easier for a real Lagosian to understand Oyo and Egba dialect than Ijebu dialect which is closer.

Mixing Ondo dialect with it is out of question. No Lagosian can understand Ondo dialect.

Even surprising, is the inability of Lagosian children to understand their own Awori dialect.

geosegun:


This is absolutely correct. The Lagos Yoruba is Oyo dialect with a little bit of Egba, Ijebu and Ondo dialect mixed with it. However, because these are also popular Yoruba dialects, its actually difficult to filter these minute mixed up. Hence, Oyo Yoruba is being spoken in Lagos.

scholes0:


Lagos Yoruba aka SMY Standard modern Yoruba) is a direct fusion of Oyo Yoruba and Egba Yoruba in equal measures, that has also since evolved leaving out all the funkyness and nasality that Oyo is notorious for.
Nobody goes around speaking Oyo Yoruba in everyday life in Lagos or anywhere outside Oyo areas except the older generation. You will be made fun of, seriously..

Yes, Lagos dialect and standard or central Yoruba are similar to the Egba dialect, in addition to Oyo. The Egba language in my opinion, might just be a little bit slower in intonation, like they place more emphasis on words and do not rush when speaking.

I think most or many Oyo speakers might switch between Oyo and standard Yoruba when communicating, especially if they're a millennial generation/younger, although I couldn't say for sure. But in other parts of the southwest, a lot of people can speak both their dialects and standard Yoruba.

scholes0:


The Yoruba word for Shop/Stall is Isọ. 'shoobu' is a direct result of deliberate modernisms/infusion.

Not sure 'mama' is from english because in my dialect of Yoruba, mọmọ and yeye both mean grandmother, while iya and mama is mother. That might neeed further digging into.

Isọ is correct. And I am familiar with a Yoruba dictionary which is written by some couple of Yoruba scholars in 1911. The input of these Yoruba scholars , Yorubanised Shop and called it shobu. In fact, it is where ‘ eshù' is termed as devil which was copied from Samuel Ajayi Crowther's dictionary.

Secondly, mọmọ is not anciently a Yoruba word,irrespective of how it has become adopted in today's and recent past. I know this because, Iyè is ‘mother' in the older Yoruba language though it is maintained in dialects across board and it only metarmophised into ‘Ìyá' through development of Yoruba language in later century. It is important for us to know there are loaned words in all world's language and Yoruba isn't different. In fact, Yoruba language is very dynamic in nature because at every contact with new groups, she switch her language between her language with the scantly words of the teacher's language. Although, Yoruba language has survived through 5000+ of years through storage via Ifaodu oral account, which were used as a means of reconstruction of Yoruba past in the Semitic region.

Interestingly, a lot has not been done on discovery of Yoruba pictograms by uncountable Yoruba scholars because these Yoruba scholars actually underestimated the Yoruba language's prowess which begun as pictograms/ ideograms in the ancient time during Egyptian era, Assyria's,Persia's, Greek's, Roman's etc period. This may look shocking before a lot of people but it is true which can fathomed through knowledge of interpretation of ideograms or pictograms.