Abagworo:

It is quite unfair for you to write the above.I have always maintained my stand on individual choice in voting.I don't believe in adoption and will never do that. Go back to my old posts.

I never said there is anything wrong with individual choice. By all means, please vote for whoever pleases you.
I never ever said that you MUST VOTE according to Ohanaeze dictates.

All I have always said here is that in the Nigerian political reality, and being an Igbo man who has witnessed the product of that Nigerian politics and its evil impacts on my part of Nigeria, it will be foolhardy for me not to play the same game others have been playing for years, and with which they have short-changed me and my people in Nigeria.

As we are talking, the north is working VERY HARD to pick a CONSENSUS CANDIDATE for next year's election.
And they have played the same game for 50 years, and have used it to cheat me.  

Igboland is the most marginalized in terms of federal presence and revenue allocation. It did not happen because we played the game others played, rather it happened because we played it your way.

But when you support an animal character attacking me for holding my views, you cross a line.  

Onlytruth:

I am truly shocked (positively) that Jonathan was already thinking about today 3 years ago! 

Jonathan is not getting enough credit at all. He may actually be an "Obama" character after all!

I would trust him and his honest intentions than any other candidate in this race.  

i could have written the same
infact jonathan by nature is a good leader but the nigerian political system have tied his hands. he has my vote that is if i am in Nigeria by january

Goodluck has my support o!

It is shocking to see Abagworo team up with a [size=14pt]foreign [/size] maggot. Dude, grow some balls and learn to take a firm stand on any issue that affects you. That is true manhood, trying to please the crowd like a coward will only see you crowned a coward.

@OnlyTruth
Don't let blathering clowns who a too scared to stand one way or the other bother you.

A neighbor is better than a brother in the farm (agbata obi ka nwa nne di n’ugbo)

The proverbs of our fore fathers have always guided us very well. this is a chance we can not afford to loose, to right so many wrongs.

Beaf:

It is shocking to see Abagworo team up with a [size=14pt]foreign [/size] maggot. Dude, grow some balls and learn to take a firm stand on any issue that affects you. That is true manhood, trying to please the crowd like a coward will only see you crowned a coward.

@OnlyTruth
Don't let blathering clowns who a too scared to stand one way or the other bother you.

Come on Beaf, you are being unkind to Abagworo. There is nothing wrong in what he stated. He stated that he will not be swayed to vote for a candidate just because he is endorsed by a socio-political organisation. He also stated that he remains unconvinced about any candidate and will delay his decision until the last minute or until he becomes convinced.

Similarly, you may have issues with BKBabe from other threads but he is on point with his comment about OnlyTruth. OnlyTruth has previously stated that Ndigbo should support IBB because of the endorsement from Ojukwu but has now shifted to GEJ because Ohaneze has endorsed him. It is obvious that you are a GEJ supporter and nothing wrong with that but I believe that INDIVIDUALS such as Abagworo can be swayed by persuasive arguments for your candidate while you are unlikely to sway bloc voters such as OnlyTruth. What would be your view if Ohaneze then has discussions with Ojukwu and decide to endorse IBB resulting in OnlyTruth switching to IBB again?

Like Tony Blair said,'A week is a long time in politics'. There are still several weeks before the elections, anything can happen. Just my 2 cents

Onlytruth:

I never said there is anything wrong with individual choice. By all means, please vote for whoever pleases you.
I never ever said that you MUST VOTE according to Ohanaeze dictates.

All I have always said here is that in the Nigerian political reality, and being an Igbo man who has witnessed the product of that Nigerian politics and its evil impacts on my part of Nigeria, it will be foolhardy for me not to play the same game others have been playing for years, and with which they have short-changed me and my people in Nigeria.

As we are talking, the north is working VERY HARD to pick a CONSENSUS CANDIDATE for next year's election.
And they have played the same game for 50 years, and have used it to cheat me.

Igboland is the most marginalized in terms of federal presence and revenue allocation. It did not happen because we played the game others played, rather it happened because we played it your way.

But when you support an animal character attacking me for holding my views, you cross a line.

@IKENGA DIKE 1 NA NNEWI: Thanks a lot for this nice thread of yours. Thanks to Ohanaeze for this timely intervention. There is no point in Ohanaeze waiting till the last second to support any candidate. Ohanaeze coming up at this time to endorse G.Ebele.J has done a lot of favour to his camp and his chances are even brighter.
Since Uwaechue's endorsement, a lot of Ndigbo whom were hitherto undecided have now joined GEJ's camp. If you speak to five Ndigbo today, atleast four will tell you they are for GEJ, thanks to Ohanaeze for this extraodinary feat.
Since the new Ohanaeze, Ndigbo have never had any one better than Uwaechue occupying the number one seat in Igboland today.
@Uwaechue, may your days be long.

Like I said, I do not know who to support. If I had my way, I would only support Pat Utomi, but since he has no chance in this country, I want my vote to count.

EzeUche0:

Like I said, I do not know who to support. If I had my way, I would only support Pat Utomi, but since he has no chance in this country, I want my vote to count.

Utomi for 2015.

To the OnlyTruths and the other liars on here, I ask:

DOES THIS MEAN YALL GONNA DISOBEY OJUKWU'S INSTRUCTIONS THAT YOU VOTE FOR IBB!?!?

bk.babe97y:

To the OnlyTruths and the other liars on here, I ask:

DOES THIS MEAN YALL GONNA DISOBEY OJUKWU'S INSTRUCTIONS THAT YOU VOTE FOR IBB!?!?

gbam, lets hear there answer

bk.babe97y:

To the OnlyTruths and the other liars on here, I ask:

DOES THIS MEAN YALL GONNA DISOBEY OJUKWU'S INSTRUCTIONS THAT YOU VOTE FOR IBB!?!?

Listen clearly boy. . . We Igbos have no king. That is why we vote for anyone whom we choose. In our entire history, no one dictated to us what to do.

EzeUche0:

Listen clearly boy. . . We Igbos have no king. That is why we vote for anyone whom we choose. In our entire history, no one dictated to us what to do.

Uber Tribalist, Can U please answer the question I posed to u!!!

EzeUche0:

Listen clearly boy. . . We Igbos have no king. That is why we vote for anyone whom we choose. In our entire history, no one dictated to us what to do.

So what is the point of Ohanaeze choosing a candidate for all Igbo to follow ?


You can't have it both ways. Highlight the individuality of the Igbo but then kowtow to Umbrella organisations like this whose mandate is shaky at best.

Thesame  goes for all the talk from organisations like Afenifere and the Northern Political Forum who seem to be able to hijack the debate without any challenge from the media.

We all just seem to accept the legitimacy of organisations that were most likely formed on a whim by a couple of privileged and corrupt individuals.

bk.babe97y:

Uber Tribalist, Can U please answer the question I posed to u!!!

I know you are enjoying the results of that fake poll.  

GEJ will sweep the votes come next year only if he emerges PDP presidential candidate which i doubt. Anyways he can always change his party. He's a very popular candidate.

EzeUche0:

I know you are enjoying the results of that fake poll.  

Not really, Hitler!

EzeUche0:

Listen clearly boy. . . We Igbos have no king. That is why we vote for anyone whom we choose. In our entire history, no one dictated to us what to do.

You are right Ochi Agha, Igbos do not bow to any man, but only God

High_Chief:

You are right Ochi Agha, Igbos do not bow to any man, but only God

Still doesnt answer if yall gonna have to disobey Ojukwu's instructions!

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i think is about time we start to learn from the Chinese

u cannot always copy-copy white man thing

As far as Nigeria is concern as against all the wishes of looters; northern united in looting; looters, super-thieves; confused Muslims; northern vampires; Sharia hypocrites;idiots; etc

Jonathan should lead this country and liberalise our economy as it should be !!! simple as that

hopefully obj apologist will a have a change of mind in due time

Still doesnt answer if yall gonna have to disobey Ojukwu's instructions!

seek the nearest mental clinic; u colombian piece of maggot

Ohaneze  have made a number of tactical mistakes, the first is that as a socio cultural organisation, they should steer clear of partisan politics. A lot of people still remember the way that Achuzia and Irukwu supported the 'third term' agenda.

The other small issue is that they appear hypocritical by opposing rotation / zoning nationally when they themselves use a rotation system to choose the president general.

By endorsing Jonathan now, the idea of Ndigbo  presidency in 2015 is dead in the water because Jonathan will not leave in 2015 but 2019. If Jonathan does leave in 2015 - the South South will be up in arms because they will only have done 4 years.

A more progressive move is to adjust the status quo slightly, our leadership should limit zoning to 1 term of 5 years. That way every zone gets their turn. A politician that can not achieve their development objectives in 5 years is simply useless.

SapeleGuy:

Ohaneze  have made a number of tactical mistakes, the first is that as a socio cultural organisation, they should steer clear of partisan politics. A lot of people still remember the way that Achuzia and Irukwu supported the 'third term' agenda.

The other small issue is that they appear hypocritical by opposing rotation / zoning nationally when they themselves use a rotation system to choose the president general.

By endorsing Jonathan now, the idea of Ndigbo  presidency in 2015 is dead in the water because Jonathan will not leave in 2015 but 2019. If Jonathan does leave in 2015 - the South South will be up in arms because they will only have done 4 years.

A more progressive move is to adjust the status quo slightly, our leadership should limit zoning to 1 term of 5 years. That way every zone gets their turn. A politician that can not achieve their development objectives in 5 years is simply useless.

The South South will be up in arms or the Ijaw? And also who in the presidential race is giving an effort to go by zoning? A zone can not constitute a region, at least not in nigeria.

chyz:

The South South will be up in arms or the Ijaw? And also who in the presidential race is giving an effort to go by zoning? A zone can not constitute a region, at least not in nigeria.

South-South = Ijaw now

Haven't you heard?

Forget about the Itsekiri, Ikwerre, Ogoni, Ibibio etc

EzeUche0:

South-South = Ijaw now

Haven't you heard?

Forget about the Itsekiri, Ikwerre, Ogoni, Ibibio etc

South South doesn't equal Izon. Unless of course you believe that Jonathan is only supported by Izon.

My point is that the current system is designed to fail.
We need to think differently. Historically the South East & South South have always pursued a patriotic and nationalist agenda that has never ever benefitted them.

SapeleGuy:

South South doesn't equal Ijaw.

My point is that the current system is designed to fail.

I was being facetious.

EzeUche0:

I was being facetious.

Cool, I think say you be want start wahala

SapeleGuy:

South South doesn't equal Izon. Unless of course you believe that Jonathan is only supported by Izon.

My point is that the current system is designed to fail.
We need to think differently. Historically the South East & South South have always pursued a patriotic and nationalist agenda that has never ever benefitted them.

Agreed. So what do you suggest?

chyz:

Agreed. So what do you suggest?

True federalism or Rotation based on 1 term of 5 years. As I said SS & SE have been short changed.

SapeleGuy:

True federalism or Rotation based on 1 term of 5 years. As I said SS & SE have been short changed.

I am a firm believer that there needs to be coordination amongst the SS & SE. We were once one. United we are stronger.

EzeUche0:

I am a firm believer that there needs to be coordination amongst the SS & SE. We were once one. United we are stronger.

There should be mutual respect. My part of SS was never 1 with the SE. It was the only democratically created state in the history of Nigeria.  We shouldn't fight one another nor live in each others pockets. Good politics is local, make everybody repair their side - And I mean this with respect and without animosity.

SapeleGuy:

True federalism or Rotation based on 1 term of 5 years. As I said SS & SE have been short changed.

Rotation should never be instituted when it comes to presidency. It would defeat the whole purpose of selecting the best of the best for the country. For instance if one region is to do its term but all of its contestants are drunken illiterates,that means we are forced to choose a scrw up to govern us? Thats not possible. True federalism sounds better and more logical.