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Data Science Or Cyber Security? by iCode2: 3:30pm On Nov 01, 2019
Good day guys..
I'm turn in between diving into Data Science or Cyber Security. I want to start learning Python and from my findings, Python can be used for both. I want to know which I'll dive into fully as I'll be building a career in anyone I go with. Here are some questions that'll guide my decision.

What are the prospects of data science compared to cybersecurity in Nigeria? Also, availability of jobs..

Which among the two assimilates someone easier into the industry?

Which one is higher in terms of salary?

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Re: Data Science Or Cyber Security? by spoilerx: 3:33pm On Nov 01, 2019
You never start na salary u dey reason .

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Re: Data Science Or Cyber Security? by iCode2: 3:37pm On Nov 01, 2019
spoilerx:
You never start na salary u dey reason .
As you can see, that's the last question I asked. It's not the only question I want to have an answer to. What's wrong with wanting to know what the pay is like for what you want to build a career in?

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Re: Data Science Or Cyber Security? by stanliwise(m): 6:16pm On Nov 01, 2019
iCode2:
As you can see, that's the last question I asked. It's not the only question I want to have an answer to. What's wrong with wanting to know what the pay is like for what you want to build a career in?
Data science and cyber security are different side of same coin. one manipulate data and the other protect data.

Python can be used for them both.

Back to the question my answer is I don't know.
how do you expect us to select a course of study for you? please ask a specific question.

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Re: Data Science Or Cyber Security? by iCode2: 6:21pm On Nov 01, 2019
stanliwise:
Data science and cyber security are different side of same coin. one manipulate data and the other protect data.

Python can be used for them both.

Back to the question my answer is I don't know.
how do you expect us to select a course of study for you? please ask a specific question.
Not as a course of study, I'm a graduate. I want to acquire skill in any of the two areas to better my life. I just think one will have more prospects in Nigeria. That's the purpose of this thread. To know which is more viable. Also, experienced people can also advice on learning path.

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Re: Data Science Or Cyber Security? by stanliwise(m): 10:11pm On Nov 01, 2019
iCode2:
Not as a course of study, I'm a graduate. I want to acquire skill in any of the two areas to better my life. I just think one will have more prospects in Nigeria. That's the purpose of this thread. To know which is more viable. Also, experienced people can also advice on learning path.
Not still a specific question, if you need a ln exposition of data science and cyber security then edit the topic to suite.
You have to decide what you like for yourself.

If you can say the exact thing you're interested in, then we can help you.
Re: Data Science Or Cyber Security? by iCode2: 11:14pm On Nov 01, 2019
stanliwise:

Not still a specific question, if you need a ln exposition of data science and cyber security then edit the topic to suite.
You have to decide what you like for yourself.

If you can say the exact thing you're interested in, then we can help you.
About deciding, I thought I could use people's opinion here on the two fields in deciding. An exposition of data science and cyber security will be okay.

I'm tilting towards data science though..
Re: Data Science Or Cyber Security? by stanliwise(m): 10:40am On Nov 02, 2019
iCode2:
About deciding, I thought I could use people's opinion here on the two fields in deciding. An exposition of data science and cyber security will be okay.

I'm tilting towards data science though..
In my opinion
Data science is the biggest sale point right now and all kind of company are out there looking for who will help them in data collation and manipulate especially business knowledgeable manipulations and statistically tools on the other hand Cyber security is a big future to come to Nigeria, not many people find it important in this part of the world but with thr rise in use of internet and network and rise in data stealing and corruption , it's importance cannot be replaced, so it has a bright future.

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Re: Data Science Or Cyber Security? by iCode2: 11:18am On Nov 02, 2019
stanliwise:
In my opinion
Data science is the biggest sale point right now and all kind of company are out there looking for who will help them in data collation and manipulate especially business knowledgeable manipulations and statistically tools on the other hand Cyber security is a big future to come to Nigeria, not many people find it important in this part of the world but with thr rise in use of internet and network and rise in data stealing and corruption , it's importance cannot be replaced, so it has a bright future.
Yea, cyber security has a big future. Made some research and I'll be going with data science. I wanted to learn python first but someone suggested I learn SQL first for data science. Do you have books on python or SQL that you can share?

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Re: Data Science Or Cyber Security? by stanliwise(m): 11:23am On Nov 02, 2019
iCode2:
Yea, cyber security has a big future. Made some research and I'll be going with data science. I wanted to learn python first but someone suggested I learn SQL first for data science. Do you have books on python or SQL that you can share?
Such person don't understand data science. Just learn python basics

variables,
decison,
array,
loop,
functions,
OOP

After this stop reading books and dive into algorithms and application dev and Data analysis, by this you will know what and what not to learn and which books to read and which not to read.

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Re: Data Science Or Cyber Security? by iCode2: 11:33am On Nov 02, 2019
stanliwise:
Such person don't understand data science. Just learn python basics

variables,
decison,
array,
loop,
functions,
OOP

After this stop reading books and dive into algorithms and application dev and Data analysis, by this you will know what and what not to learn and which books to read and which not to read.
Thanks a lot. I really appreciate.

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Re: Data Science Or Cyber Security? by stanliwise(m): 11:36am On Nov 02, 2019
iCode2:
Thanks a lot. I really appreciate.
Also note to get some jobs you may later need to write one/two professional examination to secure a good certificate to have better job o.
Re: Data Science Or Cyber Security? by iCode2: 11:46am On Nov 02, 2019
stanliwise:
Also note to get some jobs you may later need to write one/two professional examination to secure a good certificate to have better job o.
Professional exams like?
Re: Data Science Or Cyber Security? by stanliwise(m): 11:52am On Nov 02, 2019
iCode2:
Professional exams like?
Thats for you to find.
Re: Data Science Or Cyber Security? by iCode2: 12:03pm On Nov 02, 2019
stanliwise:
Thats for you to find.
Lol okay sir. I'll do that.
Re: Data Science Or Cyber Security? by Grandlord: 5:51pm On Nov 02, 2019
stanliwise:
Also note to get some jobs you may later need to write one/two professional examination to secure a good certificate to have better job o.
Professional exams for programming?
Re: Data Science Or Cyber Security? by Grandlord: 5:55pm On Nov 02, 2019
iCode2:
Yea, cyber security has a big future. Made some research and I'll be going with data science. I wanted to learn python first but someone suggested I learn SQL first for data science. Do you have books on python or SQL that you can share?
SQL is for database management, I guess. That's not data science.
Re: Data Science Or Cyber Security? by bunnae(f): 9:48am On Nov 03, 2019
Grandlord:
SQL is for database management, I guess. That's not data science.
Then why did codecademy.com start there in their datascience skill path?
Re: Data Science Or Cyber Security? by Daejoyoung: 10:39am On Nov 03, 2019
bunnae:

Then why did codecademy.com start there in their datascience skill path?
The problem is that the word Data Science and Data Analysis are used interchangeably sometimes even by firms.
SQL is a query language for database administration used in business analysis, data analysis and backend web development.
Pure Data Science may involve all of data analysis( which may require SQL) as well as programming/ machine learning for some, while for others it may exclude the aspect of data analysis. But most people usually think that if you are a data scientist, you also know every aspect of data analysis.
Re: Data Science Or Cyber Security? by Grandlord: 10:56am On Nov 03, 2019
bunnae:

Then why did codecademy.com start there in their datascience skill path?
Database management is a part of data science, not data science itself. That's what I meant. So SQL is only one of the languages required in data science alongside python, R, etc.

You use Python and R to manipulate, extract and project data. SQL deals with the storage and organization.
Re: Data Science Or Cyber Security? by bunnae(f): 12:46pm On Nov 03, 2019
Grandlord:
Database management is a part of data science, not data science itself. That's what I meant. So SQL is only one of the languages required in data science alongside python, R, etc.

You use Python and R to manipulate, extract and project data. SQL deals with the storage and organization.
okay thank you'I sort of just finished with sql. I'm on python currently. Do i need any special focus on python as it concerns data science? or i need to learn every aspect of the language?
Re: Data Science Or Cyber Security? by bunnae(f): 12:52pm On Nov 03, 2019
Daejoyoung:

The problem is that the word Data Science and Data Analysis are used interchangeably sometimes even by firms.
SQL is a query language for database administration used in business analysis, data analysis and backend web development.
Pure Data Science may involve all of data analysis( which may require SQL) as well as programming/ machine learning for some, while for others it may exclude the aspect of data analysis. But most people usually think that if you are a data scientist, you also know every aspect of data analysis.
I actually feel like data science was a set while data analysis is a subset. Thanks a lot for the mention. I'm grateful.


icode2 where art thou na?

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Re: Data Science Or Cyber Security? by Grandlord: 1:06pm On Nov 03, 2019
bunnae:

okay thank you'I sort of just finished with sql. I'm on python currently. Do i need any special focus on python as it concerns data science? or i need to learn every aspect of the language?
Start out by learning the basics of the language first. Then proceed to learning its data science frameworks and libraries such as tensorflow, numpy, matplotlib, pandas etc. I'm done learning the basics and now I'm working on data projects using tensorflow, matplotlib and theanos. I'm also learning django for web dev.There's a lot you can do with python.

How is SQL like? I'm looking to pick it up when I'm through with my projects. cool

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Re: Data Science Or Cyber Security? by iCode2: 7:05pm On Nov 03, 2019
bunnae:

okay thank you'I sort of just finished with sql. I'm on python currently.
Now now? shocked shocked
Do i need any special focus on python as it concerns data science? or i need to learn every aspect of the language?
Very important question.
Grandlord:
Start out by learning the basics of the language first. Then proceed to learning its data science frameworks and libraries such as tensorflow, numpy, matplotlib, pandas etc. I'm done learning the basics and now I'm working on data projects using tensorflow, matplotlib and theanos. I'm also learning django for web dev.There's a lot you can do with python.

How is SQL like? I'm looking to pick it up when I'm through with my projects. cool
How did you learn? Strictly videos or you also consulted books? I learnt that python is quite an easy language. How long did it take you to run through the basics?
Re: Data Science Or Cyber Security? by Grandlord: 8:08pm On Nov 03, 2019
iCode2:
Now now? shocked shocked Very important question.How did you learn? Strictly videos or you also consulted books? I learnt that python is quite an easy language. How long did it take you to run through the basics?
Videos and PDFs. I did put in 4 hours daily, excluding weekends and it took me 4 weeks to master the basics. It's all about understanding the logic . The syntax is easy especially if you're coding with pycharm. The projects and modules though, are a different ball game entirely grin.
Re: Data Science Or Cyber Security? by iCode2: 8:29pm On Nov 03, 2019
Grandlord:
Videos and PDFs. I did put in 4 hours daily, excluding weekends and it took me 4 weeks to master the basics. It's all about understanding the logic . The syntax is easy especially if you're coding with pycharm. The projects and modules though, are a different ball game entirely grin.
4 weeks was quite fast. Is python your first language?

@bolded... Ikr grin grin
Re: Data Science Or Cyber Security? by Grandlord: 8:46pm On Nov 03, 2019
iCode2:
4 weeks was quite fast. Is python your first language?

@bolded... Ikr grin grin
I thought so too. I had to do a ton of exercises to be sure. grin I feel like logic comes easy to me though.

Yeah python is my first language, that's why it was really frustrating the first week but once I got how the syntax worked, by doing copy and paste from the videos, I took off from there. I think I did put in up to 6 hours daily, that first week though.
Re: Data Science Or Cyber Security? by iCode2: 9:00pm On Nov 03, 2019
Grandlord:
I thought so too. I had to do a ton of exercises to be sure. grin I feel like logic comes easy to me though.

Yeah python is my first language, that's why it was really frustrating the first week but once I got how the syntax worked, by doing copy and paste from the videos, I took off from there. I think I did put in up to 6 hours daily, that first week though.
Lol that's really encouraging. Can't wait to kick start the learning process. Have you seen Brad Traversy's Python crash course on YouTube? What do you think about it?
Re: Data Science Or Cyber Security? by Grandlord: 9:14pm On Nov 03, 2019
iCode2:
Lol that's really encouraging. Can't wait to kick start the learning process. Have you seen Brad Traversy's Python crash course on YouTube? What do you think about it?
Brad Traversy has a Python course on YouTube? Quite interesting because I just finished his html and CSS crash courses this week. smiley

Well I didn't see his python video when I started out learning. So the video I used was Mosh Hammedani's Python course, together with the book, Automate The Boring Stuff. cool

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Re: Data Science Or Cyber Security? by iCode2: 9:42pm On Nov 03, 2019
Grandlord:
Brad Traversy has a Python course on YouTube? Quite interesting because I just finished his html and CSS crash courses this week. smiley

Well I didn't see his python video when I started out learning. So the video I used was Mosh Hammedani's Python course, together with the book, Automate The Boring Stuff. cool
Yea, he has. I think he's good. But you're not smiling ooohh! Pls wait for us to catch up grin
I just rushed to get the book now. Is it this one I uploaded?

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Re: Data Science Or Cyber Security? by Grandlord: 10:08pm On Nov 03, 2019
iCode2:
Yea, he has. I think he's good. But you're not smiling ooohh! Pls wait for us to catch up grin
I just rushed to get the book now. Is it this one I uploaded?
Yeah it's the one but, watch out for the upgraded 2nd edition though. It was released October 29th and should be available online anytime from now.

Yeah Brad is very good and has lots of subscribers.

Lol bro, you'll catch up in no time. What languages do you know already?
Re: Data Science Or Cyber Security? by iCode2: 10:36pm On Nov 03, 2019
Grandlord:
Yeah it's the one but, watch out for the upgraded 2nd edition though. It was released October 29th and should be available online anytime from now.

Yeah Brad is very good and has lots of subscribers.

Lol bro, you'll catch up in no time. What languages do you know already?
Okay, thanks. I'll watch out for it.

Me? Lol just html and little CSS. I don't think python will be hard for me too. I have some knowledge on pascal. Syntax wouldn't be hard for me to grasp.

It seems you have some interest in Web development too.

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