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Re: How Government Loses Billions To Fraudulent Clearing Agents - The Guardian by aspiring44: 11:41am On Nov 18, 2019
TPound:



86,000,000?!!! shocked

What are you clearing?

The whole of Togo?


Some telecommunications equipment are very costly .

If you have a CIF value of 860,000,000 and you are paying 10% of that . how much is that

Lots of communication companies pay duties running into billions of naira.

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Re: How Government Loses Billions To Fraudulent Clearing Agents - The Guardian by Nobody: 11:48am On Nov 18, 2019
That is BUSINESS between customs and clearing agents.

No wonder they always like stopping fresh tokunboh cars on the highway.

This is the first time I am fully understanding this trick.

Customs should not impound any car until they clearly tell the masses and importers how to know the exact duty payable for a car. Give us the account numbers, we all know where the bank is.

Until then, custom is assisting clearing agents to defraud government

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Re: How Government Loses Billions To Fraudulent Clearing Agents - The Guardian by Josh44s(m): 11:50am On Nov 18, 2019
Muhammad2468:
buhari is not from Africa

Funniest comment of the year.

Re: How Government Loses Billions To Fraudulent Clearing Agents - The Guardian by Spidermon: 11:57am On Nov 18, 2019
“In that circumstance, our client swiftly put a call across to the respondent (Innocent) who actually admitted not paying full duty on the vehicle, consequent upon which the respondent quickly made a transfer of N70,000 to our client for onward payment to the customs officers and latter got the vehicle released.”


NIGERIA.
Re: How Government Loses Billions To Fraudulent Clearing Agents - The Guardian by OBAGADAFFI: 12:11pm On Nov 18, 2019
aspiring44:


There is online system in place for duty payment already . The era of 40 :60 , 60: 40 which brought in corruption on a large scale.has been defeated and a new system is in place whereby once you make your payment it reflect in NCS Custom payment portal instantly

Unfortunately , the sharp practices benefits the custom officers too because they have what is called alert block , inspection act, valuation alert , CPC alert , PCA alert . All these alert are put in place to check mate a fraudulent act by any agent ,but by the time agent grease their palms with cash they remove those alert and it becomes a problem by the time a vehicle is driven out since the car is cleared out of the port.

So , both the agent and customs are always in good marriage of convenience.

Surprisingly , importers of vehicles does not always want to pay the exact duty that is valued .
They will price it to the last kobo . hence agent try to behave funny to short change , but the importer should be carried along


The customs also explore the loop holes and connived with the clearing agent

Lastly , when an importer pays full duty , the customs also find fault with it that is not the actual duty paid.
Have once paid a duty of N86,000,000.00 . they still argued is not enough.

Practically , all hand must be on deck to tackle the sharp practices

Apt.

That high Duty and constant delay at the port is the why neighboring countries ports are attracting Nigerians.

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Re: How Government Loses Billions To Fraudulent Clearing Agents - The Guardian by beresponsible(m): 12:12pm On Nov 18, 2019
The customs should simplify the duty calculations and payment so that the importers would be able to know the exact duty payable and possibly effect payment by themselves
Perfect idea but they will not accept. I paid N1million twice to two different agents for one 20ft container still didn't get my goods. When I went to tincan myself to clear the goods, the customs still insist i bring my agent even after explaining that agents have already collected my money.
I think customs are sharing with agents

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Re: How Government Loses Billions To Fraudulent Clearing Agents - The Guardian by Seunbukola187(m): 12:26pm On Nov 18, 2019
TPound:



86,000,000?!!! shocked

What are you clearing?

The whole of Togo?
it tire oooo grin grin grin
Re: How Government Loses Billions To Fraudulent Clearing Agents - The Guardian by aspiring44: 12:29pm On Nov 18, 2019
OBAGADAFFI:


Apt.

That high Duty and constant delay at the port is the why neighboring countries ports are attracting Nigerians.


Very true . its only condoms that has 0 duty . that does not mean you won't pay some other component of taxes

Very funny abi


Constant delays at the port rest squarely on the custom . if they Dont release from the system is a big problem and they Dont care about demurrage , but by the time you stand your ground that you have done your own part by paying correct duty or you petition the service that is when they know you are serious. Other agencies can also frustrate you the likes of NAFDAC, NDLEA, SON, CIU, Enforcement, FOU .

FOU , they can frustrate the hell out of you when you must have paid the actual , they will stop you just to extort you , but if you are not in a hurry without minding demurrage charges it will be worth the while .

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Re: How Government Loses Billions To Fraudulent Clearing Agents - The Guardian by Takara: 12:29pm On Nov 18, 2019
Custom should simplify duty payment by posting3duty payable on their website where importers can access it . The payment too should be via Remita, or is Custom not on TSA?
That should solve the problem of shortchanging the government

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Re: How Government Loses Billions To Fraudulent Clearing Agents - The Guardian by Malakins123: 12:41pm On Nov 18, 2019
Please how much is required to clear a 2005 Lexus car (es330)?

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Re: How Government Loses Billions To Fraudulent Clearing Agents - The Guardian by Edygrin(m): 12:48pm On Nov 18, 2019
aspiring44:


There is online system in place for duty payment already . The era of 40 :60 , 60: 40 which brought in corruption on a large scale.has been defeated and a new system is in place whereby once you make your payment it reflect in NCS Custom payment portal instantly

Unfortunately , the sharp practices benefits the custom officers too because they have what is called alert block , inspection act, valuation alert , CPC alert , PCA alert . All these alert are put in place to check mate a fraudulent act by any agent ,but by the time agent grease their palms with cash they remove those alert and it becomes a problem by the time a vehicle is driven out since the car is cleared out of the port.

So , both the agent and customs are always in good marriage of convenience.

Surprisingly , importers of vehicles does not always want to pay the exact duty that is valued .
They will price it to the last kobo . hence agent try to behave funny to short change , but the importer should be carried along


The customs also explore the loop holes and connived with the clearing agent

Lastly , when an importer pays full duty , the customs also find fault with it that is not the actual duty paid.
Have once paid a duty of N86,000,000.00 . they still argued is not enough.

Practically , all hand must be on deck to tackle the sharp practices

So what did i write diffrent?

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Re: How Government Loses Billions To Fraudulent Clearing Agents - The Guardian by kuntash: 1:15pm On Nov 18, 2019
TPound:



86,000,000?!!! shocked

What are you clearing?

The whole of Togo?

how do you think a 40 foot container containing goods worth about 10b naira would go for ?
Re: How Government Loses Billions To Fraudulent Clearing Agents - The Guardian by kuntash: 1:16pm On Nov 18, 2019
Takara:
Custom should simplify duty payment by posting3duty payable on their website where importers can access it . The payment too should be via Remita, or is Custom not on TSA?
That should solve the problem of shortchanging the government

My thoughts
Re: How Government Loses Billions To Fraudulent Clearing Agents - The Guardian by lanrecisse30(m): 1:28pm On Nov 18, 2019
Story for the God's, how much can the said customs account for from the billion they generated morealso how many Nigerian can afford to pay the huge amount of duty payment.

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Re: How Government Loses Billions To Fraudulent Clearing Agents - The Guardian by aspiring44: 1:43pm On Nov 18, 2019
Edygrin:


So what did i write diffrent?

You said there should be online system in place which has been in place for more than 11 years


Unless you mean they should improvise on the system in place now .
Re: How Government Loses Billions To Fraudulent Clearing Agents - The Guardian by aspiring44: 1:52pm On Nov 18, 2019
[quote author=lanrecisse30 post=84140629]Story for the God's, how much can the said customs account for from the billion they generated morealso how many Nigerian can afford to pay the huge amount of duty payment.[/quote

I wonder where they keep the money oh o.

During GEJ PAAR was introduced and it eliminated the use of scanning machines at Apapa port and the commission of 1% FOB became PAAR VALUE to customs and the former CG WAS alledged to have embezzled 42billion naira from the scheme.
I later read he entered allocutus with the EFCC.

That was the end of it all

So much waste, duplication of agencies and large scale corruption pervades our economic sphere
Re: How Government Loses Billions To Fraudulent Clearing Agents - The Guardian by SpyAC(m): 1:56pm On Nov 18, 2019
9jayes:
Sad, if you need a reputable clearing agent you can contact me, my record is yet to be beaten
am interested in becoming on but don't know how to go about it bro, will u be willing to carry me along? Pls
Re: How Government Loses Billions To Fraudulent Clearing Agents - The Guardian by SpyAC(m): 1:57pm On Nov 18, 2019
9jayes:
Sad, if you need a reputable clearing agent you can contact me, my record is yet to be beaten
am interested in becoming one but don't know how to go about it bro, will u be willing to carry me along? Pls
Re: How Government Loses Billions To Fraudulent Clearing Agents - The Guardian by OBAGADAFFI: 2:38pm On Nov 18, 2019
aspiring44:



Very true . its only condoms that has 0 duty . that does not mean you won't pay some other component of taxes

Very funny abi


Constant delays at the port rest squarely on the custom . if they Dont release from the system is a big problem and they Dont care about demurrage , but by the time you stand your ground that you have done your own part by paying correct duty or you petition the service that is when they know you are serious. Other agencies can also frustrate you the likes of NAFDAC, NDLEA, SON, CIU, Enforcement, FOU .

FOU , they can frustrate the hell out of you when you must have paid the actual , they will stop you just to extort you , but if you are not in a hurry without minding demurrage charges it will be worth the while .


All those agencies also wants to make money from innocent importers.

The Nigerian Factor for You.

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Re: How Government Loses Billions To Fraudulent Clearing Agents - The Guardian by angelsing(m): 2:43pm On Nov 18, 2019
You have said it all....I was once a clearing officer and all u said is a fact..
aspiring44:


There is online system in place for duty payment already . The era of 40 :60 , 60: 40 which brought in corruption on a large scale.has been defeated and a new system is in place whereby once you make your payment it reflect in NCS Custom payment portal instantly

Unfortunately , the sharp practices benefits the custom officers too because they have what is called alert block , inspection act, valuation alert , CPC alert , PCA alert . All these alert are put in place to check mate a fraudulent act by any agent ,but by the time agent grease their palms with cash they remove those alert and it becomes a problem by the time a vehicle is driven out since the car is cleared out of the port.

So , both the agent and customs are always in good marriage of convenience.

Surprisingly , importers of vehicles does not always want to pay the exact duty that is valued .
They will price it to the last kobo . hence agent try to behave funny to short change , but the importer should be carried along


The customs also explore the loop holes and connived with the clearing agent

Lastly , when an importer pays full duty , the customs also find fault with it that is not the actual duty paid.
Have once paid a duty of N86,000,000.00 . they still argued is not enough.

Practically , all hand must be on deck to tackle the sharp practices

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Re: How Government Loses Billions To Fraudulent Clearing Agents - The Guardian by ately1(m): 2:49pm On Nov 18, 2019
Them full tincan. them dey use their own spoil our legit work. ALI DO SOMETHIN. checkmy signature. 100%
Re: How Government Loses Billions To Fraudulent Clearing Agents - The Guardian by aspiring44: 3:19pm On Nov 18, 2019
OBAGADAFFI:


All those agencies also wants to make money from innocent importers.

The Nigerian Factor for You.


I bet you if you can stand your ground all the time they will avoid you like plague.

Bad jobs - contraband , ammmunition get faster clearance , the custom will be the one to escort the goods out of the port .

If its a good job - full duty paid they dont like it.


Bad jobs gives them pot bellies
Re: How Government Loses Billions To Fraudulent Clearing Agents - The Guardian by Klex007: 5:56pm On Nov 18, 2019
Edygrin:
Nigerians will always look for ways to defraud the government. The best way i can think of to tackle this problem is to introduce an online payment system at the ports.
well it's LAW OF KARMA, same government defraud its citizens.

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Re: How Government Loses Billions To Fraudulent Clearing Agents - The Guardian by Klex007: 5:57pm On Nov 18, 2019
Edygrin:
Nigerians will always look for ways to defraud the government. The best way i can think of to tackle this problem is to introduce an online payment system at the ports.
Re: How Government Loses Billions To Fraudulent Clearing Agents - The Guardian by PearlStreet(m): 1:24am On Nov 19, 2019
kuntash:


how do you think a 40 foot container containing goods worth about 10b naira would go for ?

10 Billion Naira.
27 Million Dollars
1 single container?

Oga, take am easy.
Re: How Government Loses Billions To Fraudulent Clearing Agents - The Guardian by ubasor(m): 12:51pm On Nov 19, 2019
Lol, yes but not single container will this be. It will be coming batch by batch it is possible.
PearlStreet:


10 Billion Naira.
27 Million Dollars
1 single container?

Oga, take am easy.

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Re: How Government Loses Billions To Fraudulent Clearing Agents - The Guardian by ubasor(m): 12:53pm On Nov 19, 2019
450k
Malakins123:
Please how much is required to clear a 2005 Lexus car (es330)?

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