Busy_body:

Why do immigrants, epecially the JJC ones, with the pittance wage they get, think it is only their tax responsible for keeping people on welfare Why do foreign students who mostly only pay the £1000 minimum tuition fees required then dissappear into the system to go to another University to claim "Home Student" status to pay less fees, think it is them who keeps the Universities in the black



They must all be suffering from collective amnesia or how many people come to work/study without regularising their stay and bringing in all their dependants, pets, includng the kitchen sink, whilst in the process who then become entitled to free healthcare, maternity care, education, etc and eventually Housing from the Council stock, and then eventually end up taking more than the paltry negligible tax they initially paid into the system, psssft All thanks to Britain previously being a Socialist Country

dunno about all dat i have never met any foreign students or immigrants who personally thought their funds were responsible for the sustainment of the welfare state but then again what do i know ? i am just a schmuck from ikeja having said that though, even if they thought like that, they are right in doing so. foreign students pay huge tuition fees. i am sure part of those fees is responsible for keeping the university afloat. also tonnes of immigrants get tax taken out of their wages. these taxes are responsible for the sustainment of the welfare state. so technically ? their opinions are valid

buzugee:

i may have to come to you for investment ideas i dont know if they are lazy as much as they just want a shortcut to success . ill choose the word 'myopic'

Not advertising though, not not running either

honeric01:

Not advertising though, not not running either

i shall make you an offer you cant refuse. kappishhhh

buzugee:

dunno about all dat i have never met any foreign students or immigrants who personally thought their funds were responsible for the sustainment of the welfare state but then again what do i know ? i am just a schmuck from ikeja having said that though, even if they thought like that, they are right in doing so. foreign students pay huge tuition fees. i am sure part of those fees is responsible for keeping the university afloat. also tonnes of immigrants get tax taken out of their wages. these taxes are responsible for the sustainment of the welfare state. so technically ? their opinions are valid

Well thank your lucky stars cos you don't have to look far. Two people said it on this thread And the rest of your submission is a fallacy, Hardly any immigrant come here without the intention of getting their stay before heading back home, they bring in their dependants in the process, as well as exrended families, and over the course of time, start taking out way more than they paid into the system. Take state-funded Nursery/Primary/secondary Education for example, it is free yet it costs the Government £5k on average per child per year, this does not include the free meal, transport subsidy, leisure, etc that children are also entitled to.


Ditto health, the Government gets charged around £2500 per normal NHS delivery, if GP's and Dentists were paid consultation fees, they'd charge between £50-£100, Hospital Consultants command around £120-£200 per hour, visit to A&E costs money, normal x-rays costs around £80, MRI's cost the upper hundreds, etcetera, etcetera, et5cetera. If people were made to pay or see these charges, they would see that they get more back in the long run, OR WHY DO YOU THINK BRITAIN OWES BILLIONS OF POUNDS IN DEBT AND ARE REPAYING MILLIONS OF POUNDS IN INTEREST PER MINUTE

The only people who gets diddlysquat for the exhorbitant tax they pay are those in the 40% tax bracket and above, earning c£36,000k plus. Of course, i bet there are a few negligible hundreds who don't have children nor ever fall sick and have to go to the Hospital, so the taxes they pay is unjust, but of course i can bet my bottom dollar this is not applicable to Nigerians, belle has to show before you marry in most case and we love going for "check-ups at the Hospital

buzugee:

i shall make you an offer you cant refuse. kappishhhh

If it requires me getting 30% of your monthly profit, then i am GAME

buzugee:

ahhhhh so you think they are just grand-standing to the audience but are all mouth and no action ?

Isnt that obvious now?

The vast majority of Britain, but are reluctant to voice it openly, that they don’t need or want Third World immigrants PERIOD. Nigerians with something to contribute should stay in their home land to help build their economy and society. If the developed world continues to accept Africa's educated class then they lose a potential human source to take them to the next stage of development. Sure come and receive your genuine education from the UK, but you must GO home when finish.

the current government is wise to break the link from student to settlement and all the other bogus route exploited by immigrants.

A question: can a Brit do the same in your country?

uktrader:

The vast majority of Britain, but are reluctant to voice it openly, that they don’t need or want Third World immigrants PERIOD. Nigerians with something to contribute should stay in their home land to help build their economy and society. If the developed world continues to accept Africa's educated class then they lose a potential human source to take them to the next stage of development. Sure come and receive your genuine education from the UK, but you must GO home when finish.

the current government is wise to break the link from student to settlement and all the other bogus route exploited by immigrants.

A question: can a Brit do the same in your country?

oh please!!!!! stop crying, the question should be has Britian done it to many countries before? We all know the answer

uktrader:

The vast majority of Britain, but are reluctant to voice it openly, that they don’t need or want Third World immigrants PERIOD.  Nigerians with something to contribute should stay in their home land to help build their economy and society. If the developed world continues to accept Africa's educated class then they lose a potential human source to take them to the next stage of development. Sure come and receive your genuine education from the UK, but you must GO home when finish.

the current government is wise to break the link from student to settlement and all the other bogus route exploited by immigrants.

A question: can a Brit do the same in your country?

The brits not only did it to our country ? they stole our country for close to a century and ruled it while stealing all our resources and taking it to britain. they ruled our country uninvited. you dont think it is every nigerians birthright to return the favor and invade britain ? you dont think it is every kenyans birthright to invade britain ? you dont think it is every indians birthright to invade britain ? and all the other british colonys in the world, you dont think it is their birthright to invade and suck britain dry ? after britain did the same to them ? get your gay azz up outta ere. dont come back again to this site neither or i will havta discipline you myself.

shotster50:

Isnt that obvious now?

not to the 10,000 nigerians who are being processed for deportation or the students who have to pay the 9 grand tuition fees or the or the NHS workers who have been downsized because of budget cuts. look to me like they mean business.

British Government is not smiling

buzugee:

not to the 10,000 nigerians who are being processed for deportation or the students who have to pay the 9 grand tuition fees or the or the NHS workers who have been downsized because of budget cuts. look to me like they mean business.

10,000 Nigerians for deportation?you've got to be kidding!na only Nija dey enter britain?The foreign students will probably have to pay more than 9k,the 9k is for british students.
Im just sure the coalition govt cant really do much about student visas at a time when funding for schools are at an all time low.They will still need money from foreign students, the visa may just not lead to settlement anymore.
Im not aware the NHS has been downsizing, they've just reduced employment rates and are not filling some positions vacated by retirement.My trust just employed a new set of nurses last month and of course there were 2 nijas among them in paediatric oncology.
My advice is for anyone considering the UK to get good qualifications especially in medicine, cos the shortfall is crazy!

buzugee:

not to the 10,000 nigerians who are being processed for deportation or the students who have to pay the 9 grand tuition fees or the or the NHS workers who have been downsized because of budget cuts. look to me like they mean business.

That figure is wrong, only 727 of Nigerians are in prison in the UK

justwise:

[/b] oh please!!!!! stop crying, the question should be has Britian done it to many countries before? We all know the answer

buzugee:

The brits not only did it to our country ? they stole our country for close to a century and ruled it while stealing all our resources and taking it to britain. they ruled our country uninvited. you dont think it is every nigerians birthright to return the favor and invade britain ? you dont think it is every kenyans birthright to invade britain ? you dont think it is every indians birthright to invade britain ? and all the other british colonys in the world, you dont think it is their birthright to invade and suck britain dry ? after britain did the same to them ? get your gay azz up outta ere. dont come back again to this site neither or i will havta discipline you myself.

You are a BIG FOOL. Please look at Singapore, Malaysia, Hong Kong, Australia, Canada and then look at your Third World country before you give your opinion on this matter. Africa is not working, and all Nigerians should stay put to develop their own economy.

uktrader:

You are a BIG FOOL. Please look at Singapore, Malaysia, Hong Kong, Australia, Canada and then look at your Third World country before you give your opinion on this matter. Africa is not working, and all Nigerians should stay put to develop their own economy.

You are a bigger fool, u can cry ur eyes out, it wouldn't change anything, infact more Nigerians will still be traveling to the UK.

chika98:

British Government is not smiling

you got that right

justwise:

That figure is wrong, only 727 of Nigerians are in prison in the UK

not prison. immigration detention centers

buzugee:

not prison. immigration detention centers

Oh ok!

reindeer:

10,000 Nigerians for deportation?you've got to be kidding!na only Nija dey enter britain?The foreign students will probably have to pay more than 9k,the 9k is for british students.
Im just sure the coalition govt cant really do much about student visas at a time when funding for schools are at an all time low.They will still need money from foreign students, the visa may just not lead to settlement anymore.
Im not aware the NHS has been downsizing, they've just reduced employment rates and are not filling some positions vacated by retirement.My trust just employed a new set of nurses last month and of course there were 2 nijas among them in paediatric oncology.
My advice is for anyone considering the UK to get good qualifications especially in medicine, cos the shortfall is crazy!

i think they are better off considering qatar   maybe rotimiland can offer temporary accommodation to folks

justwise:

Oh ok!

its a hard knock life chief we strive and strive and strive and at the end of the day their is no U HAUL truck behind a hearse.

uktrader:

You are a BIG FOOL. Please look at Singapore, Malaysia, Hong Kong, Australia, Canada and then look at your Third World country before you give your opinion on this matter. Africa is not working, and all Nigerians should stay put to develop their own economy.

like i said earlier, dont come back here any more or their will be consequences and repercussion to pay. are you blind ? cant you read ?

uktrader:

The vast majority of Britain, but are reluctant to voice it openly, that they don’t need or want Third World immigrants PERIOD. Nigerians with something to contribute should stay in their home land to help build their economy and society. If the developed world continues to accept Africa's educated class then they lose a potential human source to take them to the next stage of development. Sure come and receive your genuine education from the UK, but you must GO home when finish.

the current government is wise to break the link from student to settlement and all the other bogus route exploited by immigrants.

A question: can a Brit do the same in your country?

are ur fucking energy companies ready to stop making a profit in our oil fields

are ur fucking multinationals corporations like unilever ready to leave our country as well cus u do know we have local alternatives.

are ur freaking banks ready to stop helping to steal from Nigeria.

fuckiing theiving bastards .

uktrader may [or may not be] racist but we cannot deny he has a point.

even if nigeria breaks up, as long as there's uncontrolled brain drain for whatever reason, the steady exodus of people will continue.

Please look at Singapore and Malaysia in particular and then look at your Third World country   

 

we shouldnt only look at them as visa destinations but try to see and correct whatever excuse is preventing us from being like those places.

pipe dream no doubt.

The brits not only did it to our country ? they stole our country for close to a century and ruled it while stealing all our resources and taking it to britain. they ruled our country uninvited. you dont think it is every nigerians birthright to return the favor and invade britain ? you dont think it is every kenyans birthright to invade britain ? you dont think it is every indians birthright to invade britain ? and all the other british colonys in the world, you dont think it is their birthright to invade and suck britain dry ? after britain did the same to them ?

yes, it's true they colonized africa but where exactly does this kind of talk leave us?

imo, britain needs to help the african former colonies get back on their feet.

@ buzugeee
are u who i fink u are my friends SON was sitting with me while i was perusing through this thread and he claims he knows ur UNCLE cus he saw ur username , let me know if u know ma friends SON, cus we put a bet and i told him people on nairaland could be anybody.

ciao

tpia@:

uktrader may [or may not be] racist but we cannot deny he has a point.even if nigeria breaks up, as long as there's uncontrolled brain drain for whatever reason, the steady exodus of people will continue.we shouldnt only look at them as visa destinations but try to see and correct whatever excuse is preventing us from being like those places.
pipe dream no doubt.yes, it's true they colonized africa but where exactly does this kind of talk leave us? imo, britain needs to help the african former colonies get back on their feet.

uktrader has problem with African immigrants coming to the Uk Nigerians in particular, read his posts very well, he got nothing good to say about Nigerians.

You are making his post look sensible, buzugeee reply is in line with uktrader's hatred for Nigerians and some African immigrants.
If you are waiting for a time when every Nigerian or other African immigrants will all move back to their respective countries then you have to wait intill u die and come back to this world again.

justwise:

uktrader has problem with African immigrants coming to the Uk Nigerians in particular, read his posts very well, he got nothing good to say about Nigerians.

You are making his post look sensible, buzugeee reply is in line with uktrader's hatred for Nigerians and some African immigrants.
If you are waiting for a time when every Nigerian or other African immigrants will all move back to their respective countries then you have to wait intill u die and come back to this world again.

You can tell from the way UKtrader writes and expresses himself  that he is not a born and bred Briton. He is probably a fresh immigrant, a Nigerian at that, who is just being contentious to start shyt!!

Gemma11:



You can tell from the way UKtrader writes and expressed himself that he is not a born and bred Briton. He is probably a fresh immigrant, a Nigerian at that, who is just being contentious to start shyt!!

I have to agree with u.

buzugee:

1, triple the cost of tuition fees (no more free ride)

This only applies to Nigerians with EU citizenship - most Nigerians are already paying exorbitant school fees anyways, and those have not been increased.

2, they capped the number of immigrants to just 22 thousand a year

Not as large a cut as portrayed (cut from 28,000), but will definitely affect a number of Nigerians, especially those trying to renew their visas. However, family immigration continues to increase numbers without strict control.

3, you dont own your council flats forever like people used to. now its on a 2 year contract basis and once your situation improves they throw you out

As far as I know this will only be implemented going forward, i.e. for new allocations of council houses. Current terms and conditions aren’t going to be changed. I don't think this will affect Nigerians that much.

4, deporting anything moving (10,000 nigerians about to be deported )

It’s not that easy to deport people and Nigerians are some of the most skilled at evading deportation - they destroy their passports, fail to report to immigration centres and what not. besides, the massive costs of deportation make a deportation of 10,000 Nigerians alone highly unlikely - for reference, about 10,000 people were deported from the UK last quarter, with another ~5,000 leaving on their own. Of that number, ~900 were Nigerians (almost the same number as the Americans deported ).

5, cracking down on all sham marriages

Long may it continue. Unfortunately, people will simply get desperate and start looking for other routes to exploit the system.

Overall, the steps will give a perception of ‘cracking down’ on immigration, but in the end, the effects will be limited. The Indian companies will still be able to bring in thousands of low skilled graduates to replace British jobs in IT (under intra-company transfer) and it will take a while for all the other measures to work.

so go elsewhere, Azerbaijan, Turkmenistan, Mexico, Yemen e.tc. by the way how is Muntalab, you never know until you explore.

LOL, this is absolute bull crap!!!, UK is UK man, >!!!< nothing spectacular to start with, Once I graduate am leaving the UK anywayz, so the people they targeting are the somalians, indians, pakistanis, those people who have ripped the govt off for sooo long, basically the conservatives want to initiate BRITISH JOBS FOR BRITISH PEOPLE, the only way to get outta all those mess is to make money on ur own, people dnt want to go that route, so they will always be at the noose of the government, but one thing i know is that, UK is getting Harder, and Harderrrrrr,

All their slave states (commonwealth) don wise up. So, the next thing is to make life difficult for immigrants.

However one looks at it, illegal immigration and welfare scroungers need to be
dealt with very strongly.

They are a selfish burden on the economy and they contribute almost nothing because
they dont pay tax.
As a result, the hard working members of society dont get value for their tax money because
the funds are drained toward what i call society rats.
(take a trip to any health center and you will spend hrs behind non-english speaking romanian rats
that hide about and pick pockets in oxford street.)

The somailians couples pride themselves on pretending they have split up to get a second house.
the same ingrates that want to bomb the place.
(if i was PM for a day. . . . . )

The foreign students should also go back after their studies to implement their new skills at home.
(that is the initial idea in the first place)

Its true that its tough times but these stringent moves taken by the govt are necessary.