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Re: Donald Trump Impeachment Doesn't Mean Removal From Office by Tajbol4splend(m): 11:09am On Dec 19, 2019
Dukeolumidemans:
Wait ooo, them never comot am? Na hin some idiots just wake me up this early morning shouting "Donald Trump has been Impeached, Donald Trump has been Impeached...!!!" Wetin come be the difference between their brain and that of Bubu?



Read the article again, he has been impeached but impeachment doesn't mean removal from office, it's subject to removal from office
Re: Donald Trump Impeachment Doesn't Mean Removal From Office by Martinez39(m): 11:49am On Dec 19, 2019
ericsmith:
I think "hope" is an understatement or inappropriate word for a race that already had almost everything if not all compared to the black race, what you & i shuld worry about is our hope, instead of celebrating a white man whose plans, does not include you why not lend your voice to a course that can make ur race great or beta tew.
The reason I used "hope" was because the great societies of the whites are on the verge of collapse. In Europe, liberalism and globalism have already taken a strong hold. America should have followed but Trump and The Republican Party are in the way. The left are earnestly looking forward to bringing socialism, open borders, full blown feminism, and suppression of freedom of expression. Britain has hope given that the conservative party won by a landslide and had Brexit on the table but damages have been done.

America as always been ruled by republicans and the last time a democrat ruled which was obama we didnt see america switch to socialism,so you don't av a point, most of the things you are saying are just what you think, obama took over america @ the point of recession n he successfully brought america out of recession, was it not a republican(bush)that plunged dem to recession. Do you even knw trumph as violated more human rights than all US democrat ex presidents combined.
Trump has never violated any right. SHOW ME AN EXAMPLE TO PROVE ME WRONG. In my post, I said "present day democrats". Their aim is to bring America to it's knees and destroy it.

with all that is going on in the world today, with the gap between the white & the black, and strategic position held by the white how can the whites ever become minority ... by nature the whites has more population & continents than the black, so boss what xactly are yu even spewing.
Haba. You are clearly not following politics and the effects of open border policy. grin Use Google to read up on that.


America according to founding fathers is a nation for all , a free land for all displaced to settle, the natives of america are not even whites .... buh can trumph as a chauvinist see the bigger picture. before you justify the boarder closure & deportation melted out to immigrants, research how america was founded
America is not a country for illegal immigrants. The Founding fathers would never support open border. Immigration must be legal and controlled. When border is opened and immigration is uncontrolled, anyone, even criminals, terrorists and rapists, can enter undetected and that is a security risk. The mass influx of illegal immigrant means cheaper labour because immigrants, who came in with nothing, are willing to do jobs for lower pay and this would affect the working class as wages would go down (why would business owners employ Americans when they can go for cheap labour?).

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Re: Donald Trump Impeachment Doesn't Mean Removal From Office by Sprumbaba: 12:01pm On Dec 19, 2019
solmus:



it doesnt matter , some of republican congressmen are seriously rooting for a Pence as president and 2020 presidential candidate since trump remains less popular everyday

You must be reading your book of CNN

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Re: Donald Trump Impeachment Doesn't Mean Removal From Office by Populah: 12:04pm On Dec 19, 2019
Re: Donald Trump Impeachment Doesn't Mean Removal From Office by lucky4west: 12:05pm On Dec 19, 2019
good...i know Trump is a saint compared to the politicians we have in Nigeria nay Africa...especially uncle Bubu...thank you for the clarification of the word impeachment, i wonder why those pple who drafted the 1999 constitution got it twisted
Re: Donald Trump Impeachment Doesn't Mean Removal From Office by MeeLan: 12:41pm On Dec 19, 2019
The world as it is today is largely based on pretence, Trump doesn't have a fancy face, he doesnt talk fancy appeal to conscience. he is a realist, and people like him don't have it easy in the present day world of pretence. CNN and Democrats have ganged up against a pragmatic man who is bold to say white is white and not grey.
He will survive the storm.
Re: Donald Trump Impeachment Doesn't Mean Removal From Office by Leonel55(m): 12:43pm On Dec 19, 2019
emkz:
That the Republican party dominates the US Senate does not mean he won't be impeached.

Donald Trump has locked horns with almost everyone, including a sixteen year old climate activist. He doesn't take advise, he has destroyed many careers because he is very impulsive. Many capable hands have left his government. He is too volatile and his buffoonery is quite unique.

I am sure the old foxes like Senator Mitch McConnell would have been tired of him but won't publicly admit it, because Trump is now a political liability. This impeachment, whether ratified by the US Senate or not, would impact on the Republican party in the next elections. Many risk losing their seats if Trump is acquitted. I suspect some disenchanted Republicans may ask for a secret ballot so no one knows who voted for what. And in the not so unlikely event that that happens, the impeachment would be ratified.

I Love the enthusiasm in your analysis but dear friend it shows you've not been following the House Democrat majority vs Senate Republican majority politics for the past three yrs. As it stands right now, the two leading Republican Senators, Sen McConnell (Majority Leader) and Sen Lindsey Graham (Judiciary committee Chair), who both have strong influence on their Republican colleagues in the Senate as well as have control over the direction and process of the trial, have both asserted that the impeachment case by the Dems is frayed with bias, lack of due process for the President and partisan intents by the Dems. Insisting it would be dismissed at the trial. Meaning it might not even get to voting for or against removal from office. McConnell has already indicated that the Trump would be acquitted amidst a quick trial, if any at all. He has already denied the Dems minority leader, Sen Schummer's request to allow the Dems more witnesses in the Senate trial. Going by the composition of the US Senate (Republican majority) and the strict requirement of a 2/3rd majority for conviction, and also the flimsy, open ended articles of impeachment which have little or no no constitutional bearing, Trump's acquittal at the Senate trial is almost set in stone. You can visit the twitter handles of both Senators and checkout their timelines: it's all there.

The Democrats, in their hurry to impeach Trump before Christmas, failed to bolster their case with irrefutable evidence from 1st hand sources, thereby, presenting a case that can easily be defeated at the Senate. Making it easy for the Republican led Senate to easily dismiss it. The impeachment survived the House because it only required a simple majority. That can't happen at the Senate where a 2/3rd majority must be achieved for removal from office to occur. In it's absence, acquital.

As for the Republicans in the Senate who have an issue with Trump, there are just two or three of them. Even if all the Dems in the Senate vote for removal they'd still require at least 20 Republican Senators to break ranks with their party: those three won't be enough, that is if they do vote at all against their party line. Given the partisan and biased process carried out by the Dems in the House, the possibility of any Republican doing so has gone from slim to none

So, you see, a lot of the excitement in your analysis is just wishful thinking in the absence of reality

Stay blessed!

Find a few screenshots of the aforementioned Senators' Tweeter timelines attached, just in case you're too busy to check it yourself.

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Re: Donald Trump Impeachment Doesn't Mean Removal From Office by Stoglins12(m): 12:50pm On Dec 19, 2019
Close to a decade that I've been following nairaland, but the first time to write something on this platform.
Re: Donald Trump Impeachment Doesn't Mean Removal From Office by Judolisco(m): 12:57pm On Dec 19, 2019
LegoxMetahuman:
why people keep saying this sheit?

he never won in the first place.

archaic electoral process made him president
toor na u win d election
Re: Donald Trump Impeachment Doesn't Mean Removal From Office by Nobody: 1:55pm On Dec 19, 2019
Martinez39:
The reason I used "hope" was because the great societies of the whites are on the verge of collapse. In Europe, liberalism and globalism have already taken a strong hold. America should have followed but Trump and The Republican Party are in the way. The left are earnestly looking forward to bringing socialism, open borders, full blown feminism, and suppression of freedom of expression. Britain has hope given that the conservative party won by a landslide and had Brexit on the table but damages have been done.

Trump has never violated any right. SHOW ME AN EXAMPLE TO PROVE ME WRONG. In my post, I said "present day democrats". Their aim is to bring America to it's knees and destroy it.

Haba. You are clearly not following politics and the effects of open border policy. grin Use Google to read up on that.


America is not a country for illegal immigrants. The Founding fathers would never support open border. Immigration must be legal and controlled. When border is opened and immigration is uncontrolled, anyone, even criminals, terrorists and rapists, can enter undetected and that is a security risk. The mass influx of illegal immigrant means cheaper labour because immigrants, who came in with nothing, are willing to do jobs for lower pay and this would affect the working class as wages would go down (why would business owners employ Americans when they can go for cheap labour?).


If i may ask, can you highlight d benefits of great white society over liberalism & globalism. should the world be about whites race or human race. @ these point i must say stop saying what you think. making points without references to history or facts makes ur submission invalid.
what as been the antecedents of the democrat in the history of US, was there a time socialism was adopted, or when did you see obama fighting n throwin tantrums @press or group of people,i guess you didnt know trumph violated first amendment bill, also go n read world report on human right violation under trump,

https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2019/country-chapters/united-states&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwiJhbyA3MHmAhVQxhoKHcR1CzsQFjAAegQIBBAB&usg=AOvVaw0rYCd_ARwBSCzQUU3vBUFr

America is not the only country with illegal immigrant , even naija wey nuttin dey get illegal immigrants. the word " illegal" was the justification trump needed buh is target where all immigrants legal or illegal, most of these immigrants engage in maniac works a white american can't even do & they are underpaid as well ... what is the ratio of immigrant to whites on white collar jobs.
All along it as alway be racism & unfairness to other race, so what exactly is trump restoring to the white. bro shame on you if you are not white,
Re: Donald Trump Impeachment Doesn't Mean Removal From Office by emkz: 2:15pm On Dec 19, 2019
Laurene:
the accusations against him are baseless. Imagine, abuse of power and obstruction of congress like what da heck? First of all there's no evidence against him, the Ukrainian president a vindicated him saying no pressure of any sort ( whether true or lie) but he has made a speech so his opinion should be accepted.
How come the impeachment only came on the abuse of power? What happened to obstruction of congress?
Of course it's high time the real ordinary people gets to decide how the government should be run instead of selfish and corrupt elites corrupting the media with bias.
What Happened to the whistle blower requested by the Republicans? Why should white house agreeing on releasing already biased, bought over and sham of ex appointees who are still pissed with being relieved of their duties to come and testify against their most hated boss?
This case will die faster in the senate than ever. Demo rats just secured a political own goal.

Why did the White House prevent the acting Chief of Staff from testifying? To negotiate for the whistle-blower to make himself known? Do you think this is tenable?
Re: Donald Trump Impeachment Doesn't Mean Removal From Office by emkz: 2:55pm On Dec 19, 2019
Leonel55:


I Love the enthusiasm in your analysis but dear friend it shows you've not been following the House Democrat majority vs Senate Republican majority politics for the past three yrs. As it stands right now, the two leading Republican Senators, Sen McConnell (Majority Leader) and Sen Lindsey Graham (Judiciary committee Chair), who both have strong influence on their Republican colleagues in the Senate as well as have control over the direction and process of the trial, have both asserted that the impeachment case by the Dems is frayed with bias, lack of due process for the President and partisan intents by the Dems. Insisting it would be dismissed at the trial. Meaning it might not even get to voting for or against removal from office. McConnell has already indicated that the Trump would be acquitted amidst a quick trial, if any at all. He has already denied the Dems minority leader, Sen Schummer's request to allow the Dems more witnesses in the Senate trial. Going by the composition of the US Senate (Republican majority) and the strict requirement of a 2/3rd majority for conviction, and also the flimsy, open ended articles of impeachment which have little or no no constitutional bearing, Trump's acquittal at the Senate trial is almost set in stone. You can visit the twitter handles of both Senators and checkout their timelines: it's all there.

The Democrats, in their hurry to impeach Trump before Christmas, failed to bolster their case with irrefutable evidence from 1st hand sources, thereby, presenting a case that can easily be defeated at the Senate. Making it easy for the Republican led Senate to easily dismiss it. The impeachment survived the House because it only required a simple majority. That can't happen at the Senate where a 2/3rd majority must be achieved for removal from office to occur. In it's absence, acquital.

As for the Republicans in the Senate who have an issue with Trump, there are just two or three of them. Even if all the Dems in the Senate vote for removal they'd still require at least 20 Republican Senators to break ranks with their party: those three won't be enough, that is if they do vote at all against their party line. Given the partisan and biased process carried out by the Dems in the House, the possibility of any Republican doing so has gone from slim to none

So, you see, a lot of the excitement in your analysis is just wishful thinking in the absence of reality

Stay blessed!

Find a few screenshots of the aforementioned Senators' Tweeter timelines attached, just in case you're too busy to check it yourself.

Dear friend, I watched the interview granted by Senator Mitch McConnell in the build up to the impeachment. The tweets you screen grabbed are not different from what he said in the interview.

From your submission, you seem well schooled in US politics. But you failed to explain the process that must be followed according to US law.

Let us await the modalities to be adopted by the Senate fir the trial, the prosecution team from the Congress and Trump's defenders. Rest with your speculations and focus on the process.
Re: Donald Trump Impeachment Doesn't Mean Removal From Office by linearity: 4:00pm On Dec 19, 2019
4w4eva:
Simply mean a president is strip off his immunity so as to face trial which only Senate can. A chief justice preside while the senators serve as juries.

Impeachment does not strip a US President off his immunity, just like the OP stated it just an official indictment of an offense.

The impeachment process in the House and the trial (If the House referee the article of impeachment to the Senate) in the Senate are all political processes and not criminal.

If a US President is convicted in the Senate or is no longer in office, only then do they lose their immunity.

Even if a US President is convicted & removed from office by the Senate, he can only be tried if the Senate refer the indictments to DOJ and DOJ can decide not to even prosecute.
Re: Donald Trump Impeachment Doesn't Mean Removal From Office by Legendguru: 4:44pm On Dec 19, 2019
Ok
Re: Donald Trump Impeachment Doesn't Mean Removal From Office by Laurene: 6:00pm On Dec 19, 2019
emkz:


Why did the White House prevent the acting Chief of Staff from testifying? To negotiate for the whistle-blower to make himself known? Do you think this is tenable?
maybe to create avenue for negotiation. The whistle blower or evidence for the chief of staff. Who knows the chief of Staff maybe under pressure to go against him maybe using a valuable asset to him as a threat, no one knows what the democrats are up to. They refused a fair trial.
Of course it's tenable, it's a tıt for tat. Perhaps if there was a level playing ground, the impeachment would have made brain.
Re: Donald Trump Impeachment Doesn't Mean Removal From Office by zhad(m): 11:38pm On Dec 19, 2019
The Line "but he won't be removed because his party constitutes the majority in the US Senate." I totally disagree with it. Thats Nigeria Mentality, If he's totally wrong even the Republican will support his removal.
Re: Donald Trump Impeachment Doesn't Mean Removal From Office by NutriCassava: 12:16am On Dec 20, 2019
shocked

Moi eyes blinks at seeing this shocked grin

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Re: Donald Trump Impeachment Doesn't Mean Removal From Office by Nobody: 9:54am On Dec 20, 2019
LegoxMetahuman:
why people keep saying this sheit?

he never won in the first place.

archaic electoral process made him president
Sorry to burst your bubbles. He won 30 state. Will you say the same about the Canadian prime minister who lose the popular votes in just concluded election? Muslims, you guys hate much.
Re: Donald Trump Impeachment Doesn't Mean Removal From Office by LegoxMetahuman: 9:59am On Dec 20, 2019
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beamtopola:

Sorry to burst your bubbles. He won 30 state. Will you say the same about the Canadian prime minister who lose the popular votes in just concluded election? Muslims, you guys hate much.
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Re: Donald Trump Impeachment Doesn't Mean Removal From Office by Martinez39(m): 4:18pm On Dec 20, 2019
ericsmith:

If i may ask, can you highlight d benefits of great white society over liberalism & globalism. should the world be about whites race or human race. @ these point i must say stop saying what you think. making points without references to history or facts makes ur submission invalid.
I never said white people should dominate and be the majority. Given that the left are upset and resentful of white people (especially straight white men) and America's identity, it is welcoming that Trump and the Republican party are willing to preserve these things. The American identity and values must not be destroyed. What is for the whites should be for the whites, and what is for blacks should be for blacks. Liberals and globalism, as seen in the left, doesn't mean what the words imply just like feminism. Different groups should be allowed to run and preserve their society, values, and identity instead of forcing them to coexist. You might not understand what I am typing except you have been vigorously following the news.

what as been the antecedents of the democrat in the history of US, was there a time socialism was adopted, or when did you see obama fighting n throwin tantrums @press or group of people,i guess you didnt know trumph violated first amendment bill, also go n read world report on human right violation under trump,

https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2019/country-chapters/united-states&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwiJhbyA3MHmAhVQxhoKHcR1CzsQFjAAegQIBBAB&usg=AOvVaw0rYCd_ARwBSCzQUU3vBUFr
Trump did nothing.

America is not the only country with illegal immigrant , even naija wey nuttin dey get illegal immigrants. the word " illegal" was the justification trump needed buh is target where all immigrants legal or illegal, most of these immigrants engage in maniac works a white american can't even do & they are underpaid as well ... what is the ratio of immigrant to whites on white collar jobs.
Lol. Seriously?
In America, people all over the world are coming in both legally and, in thousand, illegally. Many want to be citizens or students. Also, most Americans are not migrating to other countries for greener pastures since people commonly see America as a place of greener pastures. When compared to Nigeria, illegal immigration affects them more and it is rational for Trump to do something about it.

How many people are look to Nigeria for greener pastures? How many people overseas want Nigeria citizenship or desire to attend our top schools? Many Nigerians are even leaving this country. Compare the number of those coming here to the those going to America legally and illegally and tell me which country has to worry more about illegal immigration. How many people celebrate when given Nigerian citizenship? grin Oga, I am sure the average working class Nigerians do not have their areas flooded with illegal immigrants from other countries, do they? I am sure that most Nigerians hardly ever see many areas owed and occupied by non-nigerian minorities.

Don't compare.

All along it as alway be racism & unfairness to other race, so what exactly is trump restoring to the white. bro shame on you if you are not white,
Trump is not a racist and he is not a white supremacist. He is fair and dedicated to put America first. Prove me wrong.
Re: Donald Trump Impeachment Doesn't Mean Removal From Office by milky3(f): 9:36pm On Dec 20, 2019
5years ago, I argued this with a friend that to impeach does not mean removal from office, and he was asking me whc school I went to...
Re: Donald Trump Impeachment Doesn't Mean Removal From Office by somtookeke(m): 10:18am On Jan 16, 2020
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President Trump faces a charge of abuse of power for asking Ukraine to investigate political rival Joe Biden and a second one of obstruction of Congress for blocking testimony and documents sought by Democrats.

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