AroleOduduwa2:
Same Gupta that stole half of SA’s money, same Gupta that has been blacklisted by the US. Nigeria is cursed I swear.

Have you any idea how common the name Gupta is?

Even a search of the Name Alok Gupta would come up with various options.

We will get there very soon.

Once completed and commissioned, we must make sure these indians pay their fair share of taxes, they have a way of channelling everything back to india. They can never be trusted

The moment I read "will be" , I just stopped reading.
That theory has long gone with the wind as the most used phrase used by every government without nothing to show for it.
Ajaokuta steel was once projected as will be the largest non oil FDI blah blah.
it even said "hopefully Mr President will be"
will be will be till it becomes it did not

Pardon my pessimism but we've heard that b4

Nigeria should trust more in China than India.

Rossikk:


Nigeria thrives on private enterprise. The day we accept that as a fact is the day we'll make sharp progress as a country.

I totally agree! This idea of government opening enterprises is outdated, not to talk of inefficient.

recievesense:
What happened to Ajaokuta steel plant after FG spent billions for over 4 decades?

This is a private venture with government support. Ajaokuta is a government enterprise n way larger than this

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Rossikk:
Wow....Where the hell did that come from?

I had no idea we were building a 600 million dollar steel plant anywhere in the country.

That's nearly a billion dollars.

One day we'll just wake up and find this country has turned to Japan at this rate.

Dangote is already building the world's biggest refinery in Lagos.

Near the site, Eko Atlantic rises slowly to challenge Dubai's glory.

We are moving forward.

good one there bro...we need motivational peeps like this...

lexy2014:


Which Dubai is eko Atlantic challenging? How many buildings are there that it will now challenge Dubai?

He used the word "WILL" which is a future tense..

rusher14:
Just the other day, I suggested we don't have to wait for Ajaokuta.

Smaller and even diverse steel companies can rise up.

I've been vindicated.

Congratulations to Nigeria.

Only rent-seekers are waiting for Ajaokuta...
Privatized Aladja Steel has been up and running for a while as Premium Steel Co. (even exports some products).
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Rossikk:


Buhari and Putin discussed Ajaokuta at their meeting in Sochi. The Russians are returning to fix their work according to reports.

https://guardian.ng/business-services/russians-to-return-for-completion-of-ajaokuta-steel/

I don't believe that crap jor, putting only said Russian was ready to help Africa at no cost. Then Nigeria turn the news to what u have there

The day we have 120 naira to a dollar is the day u will take this government serious.
I guess posterity will judge u Mr President whether u have done good or bad.na my own be that

Olominira:

Many of you guys know nothing when it comes to building a successful nation. Eko Atlantic has everything to beat Dubai in less than 10 years. Firstly, Nigeria has several sectors that are yet to be developed, youth population, I mean highly innovative youths driving the tech scene in Nigeria and Africa. Nigerians in Diaspora that always check Nairaland to know what's going on...... Just to mention few, the entire UAE doesn't have such capacity..... Quote me if you want me to give you details.

May I inform you that development like that of Dubai is not sustainable. I mean such economy hardly stand test of time. Economy needs to be diversified, in Dubai we have oil, tourism, real estate as major revenue. However, take a look at Nigeria, manufacturing is underdeveloped but on the way. Tech is growing, Agricultural, different mineral resources, gold, iron ore, oil etc. Above all youth population.

Let me add this again, no matter the amount of money the government is borrowing today, with growing population Nigeria is standing because no matter where you invest the money it's all good. In transportation, education, health care, etc compares to countries with old population. Nigeria has a brighter future than any advanced economy with old population.

Sense like yours is very scarce on NL.....some many ignorant illiterate are littered on this faceless forum..

OhBiafra:

This your stupid optimism has lasted more than a decade on Nairaland, yet nothing.

Well, considering it took China 30 years to get from zero to hero, I'd say I've only started.

GenBuhari:
I love your patriotism Rossikk and I know it is completely free of party political or tribal affiliation.

I know this because I remember you being just as patriotic and positive about the country whilst President GEJ was in charge.

Whilst reading your post I asked myself, who is this person being so positive and optimistic? I had a little smile to myself when I saw your moniker. Whilst I don't always agree with you or your methods, I completely respect and appreciate your views for reasons I mentioned earlier.

On the subject matter, I was not even aware that we are already producing any steel in the country, talk less of 1.2 million tons per annum.

We need more patriots like Rossikk to help us realise or remember that we are greater than we are generally led to believe by our corrupted local media and international news agencies.

Merry Xmas to you bro and to all Nigerians !

Much appreciated bro.

You see, one of our main problems is dejection. As many of us struggle to leave these shores, some through the Sahara Desert, with slavery their end point, thousands of Chinese, Indians, and Lebanese are flooding this country and setting up businesses!

Is that not madness?

Many of us need to clear our eyes and start to see the same things in the country those foreigners are seeing, that's making them come, ie opportunities. For far too many of us, all we see are problems. The foreigners see those problems as opportunities.

samorobo:


He used the word "WILL" which is a future tense..

It still doesn't matter. Eko Atlantic cannot and will not b able to challenge Dubai now or in d future

lexy2014:


U are free to see a glorious nation but until its a reality, then its just a wish. Am sure d founding fathers saw a "glorious nation" b4 1960 thats why we were called d "giant of africa". It was d same reasons u gave that nigeria was referred to as d "giant of agrica". More than 5decades after, nigeria cant compete with rwanda and u are talking of dubai. Until d "glorious nation" that u say u see comes to reality, u can't be saying nigeria will be better than Dubai under any guise except u just consoling yourself. Potential isn't achievement

You are stupid my friend...Don't you dare compare Nigeria with Rwanda ..outside the empty ghost city centre of Kigali there is absolutely nothing else worth praising in Rwanda...Rwanda , a country without middle class is what you are comparing to Nigeria....no sense in your head...
Rwanda per capita income is a big joke...

Keep falling for kegame media Jamboree....he build a km road today and he will make sure the entire world hear of it using his media hype...

lexy2014:


[s]If u said something important, then u can go beyond. I don't see what u have said that is special that u want to go beyond.

Am I the one responsible 4d decaying economy that u are asking me which one I prefer? So in ur dreams u think Nigeria has a greater future compared to Japan and Germany? Well-done. U cant even compare nigeria with its fellow african countries. U are comparing nigeria with Japan& Germany. In 1960, Nigerias founding fathers had higher hopes than u did. So I don't no what makes u think that u are first person to say Nigerian will be great[/s]

Incorrigible, ignorant, demonic hater from the pit if hell...smh

Omogoddy:
Another elephant project.
What about Delta steel company
that is wasting away in Aladja Delta state of the same Nigeria

Olodo...
Another of those numerous ignorant illiterate littered across NL..

Thank you.

Since 1960 they have been promising, projecting and painting rosy budgets into the future with nothing to show for potential 20 years later.

Look at Ikoyi, VI, FESTAC, all the first generation universities not to mention the Ajaokuta and all the bridges built that have never produced world class engineers.

Why? They import even the pins, nails laborers called foreign experts used for their new projects after abandoning political and military predecessors' projects.

How many countries do you know that called in foreigners to come in and rape their children, mothers and fathers but still expecting the raped country to prosper?

Nevertheless, Rossikk enthusiasm must not die. What are we going to replace it with, hate?

lexy2014:


D comparison u made was with eko Atlantic and Dubai. D simple question I asked u is "How many buildings are there in Eko Atlantic that it will now challenge Dubai?". Instead of answering d question u talking of d future of Nigeria. How does everything u have said show that eko Atlantic can challenge Dubai? U are just talking out of point.

Even in ur comparison u made between Dubai and Nigeria, u are comparing d potential of Nigeria with d achievements of Dubai. What type of comparison? U are boasting about potential. Dubai is boasting about achievements. When Nigeria has achieved these things u are saying, then u can start comparing Nigeria with Dubai

Olominira:


Good, let me explain a little. All the countries that I mentioned are all advanced countries with these things in common. Big economy, big debts (in trillion dollars), old population, eg Japan should be 60% of its population above 60yrs, I don't know the current figure.

What that means is that, in the next 10 years, more than 60% of the population would be burden because they cannot work yet with deteriorating health. This is the issue, with huge national debt it means the few younger generation would work so hard to pay through taxes. Unless, they are not paying those debts.

Secondly, people above 60yrs do not drive economy. Because, it's the young people that buy Gucci, Mercedes Benz, Ferrari, IPhone etc. So, what that means is that companies producing such wouldn't be considering those countries in fact they'd be moving their money and investments into different places. This is why you'd see a vibrant Greek company struggling at home but would relocate to China or move it main operations to China. This is just an example.

Secondly, old people are not as innovative as the young people. Research, innovation, etc would be struggling. These are what economy is all about. We have or called them distrustive tech, you can see what an average taxi driver is making compares to Uber, shop owners to e-commerce, Android/Symbian etc. All these things are difficult for the older generations to adapt to or understand them at all.

Lastly, compare all these situations to Nigerian case, population of 200m with debts less than $100bn. Youth population above 70% and still growing. Norway is about 6m, old population with debt around $1tn.

Your intellect is on point....so many illiterate without an ounce of economic knowledge won't know this..

Why is no one talking about the antecedent of the Gupta family? This is the beginning of another Chagoury family. quote author=Bazamfare post=85194623]

https://leadership.ng/2019/12/24/600m-steel-plant-will-be-nigerias-highest-non-oil-fdi-gupta/[/quote]

Olominira:


Good, let me explain a little. All the countries that I mentioned are all advanced countries with these things in common. Big economy, big debts (in trillion dollars), old population, eg Japan should be 60% of its population above 60yrs, I don't know the current figure.

What that means is that, in the next 10 years, more than 60% of the population would be burden because they cannot work yet with deteriorating health. This is the issue, with huge national debt it means the few younger generation would work so hard to pay through taxes. Unless, they are not paying those debts.

Secondly, people above 60yrs do not drive economy. Because, it's the young people that buy Gucci, Mercedes Benz, Ferrari, IPhone etc. So, what that means is that companies producing such wouldn't be considering those countries in fact they'd be moving their money and investments into different places. This is why you'd see a vibrant Greek company struggling at home but would relocate to China or move it main operations to China. This is just an example.

Secondly, old people are not as innovative as the young people. Research, innovation, etc would be struggling. These are what economy is all about. We have or called them distrustive tech, you can see what an average taxi driver is making compares to Uber, shop owners to e-commerce, Android/Symbian etc. All these things are difficult for the older generations to adapt to or understand them at all.

Lastly, compare all these situations to Nigerian case, population of 200m with debts less than $100bn. Youth population above 70% and still growing. Norway is about 6m, old population with debt around $1tn.

D Norway u mentioned with d data u gave, is Nigeria better than Norway? U are making ridiculous comparisons. Nigeria isn't in d league of d countries u are mentioning, not in d past, now and not in d future. Start your comparison from Africa.

What has been d youth population of Nigeria since 1960 compared to Japan, Germany & Norway that u are mentioning? Y is nigeria still not better than them? What has been Nigerias debt since 1960 compared to Japan, Norway and Germany? Y is Nigeria not yet better? Be there waiting for debt and ageing population of Japan, Germany and Norway to make them fall b4 Nigeria will rise as if Nigeria hasn't always done better than them in terms of debt, natural resources and youth population.

With this your postulation, its obvious that u are driven more by fantasy than reality

Lush100:
The moment I read "will be" , I just stopped reading.
That theory has long gone with the wind as the most used phrase used by every government without nothing to show for it.
Ajaokuta steel was once projected as will be the largest non oil FDI blah blah.
it even said "hopefully Mr President will be"
will be will be till it becomes it did not

Funny how so many Nigerians are so ignorant and unexposed....do you think Projects are not stalled, cancelled in developed world ....

German government has been making noise about a new Berlin airport for the past 12 years(to be one of the largest in the world)... excavator has not even been seen on site despite the constant noise and promises year in year out..

samorobo:


Incorrigible, ignorant, demonic hater from the pit if hell...smh

U don't need to spill ur emotions d way Shell spills oil in ogoni land. If u don't have d mental and emotional resilience for this discussion, u can stay on d sidelines instead of showing how limited u are in terms of how u express urself.

I raised salient points in my comment. I dare u to provide superior argument to negate what I said

Kinikini:
Why is no one talking about the antecedent of the Gupta family? This is the beginning of another Chagoury family. quote author=Bazamfare post=85194623]

https://leadership.ng/2019/12/24/600m-steel-plant-will-be-nigerias-highest-non-oil-fdi-gupta/

Brother I was thinking of this point u raised earlier in d day. If these are investing $600m, then there's massive concessions they will b getting from d govt same way they did in SA

samorobo:


You are stupid my friend...Don't you dare compare Nigeria with Rwanda ..outside the empty ghost city centre of Kigali there is absolutely nothing else worth praising in Rwanda...Rwanda , a country without middle class is what you are comparing to Nigeria....no sense in your head...
Rwanda per capita income is a big joke...

Keep falling for kegame media Jamboree....he build a km road today and he will make sure the entire world hear of it using his media hype...

Ur ability to condescend to mediocrity is effortless. If d insignificant Rwanda can do a "media jamboree", what does that tell u? Y has Nigeria not been able to do same "media jamboree" 4d many achievements it has over Rwanda? A dude from a country d size of a state in Nigeria gets more attention than a sitting Nigerian president and u are complaining instead of asking what is d guy doing right

lexy2014:


It still doesn't matter. Eko Atlantic cannot and will not b able to challenge Dubai now or in d future

What an ignorant comment to make. Do you think Arabs are superior to you or something?

Disgusting.

Rossikk:


What an ignorant comment to make. Do you think Arabs are superior to you or something?

Disgusting.

If u say d comment is ignorant, pls explain why lets see how informed u are. To answer ur question, in what way is Nigeria better than UAE in terms of achievements as a nation?