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Re: Christmas Date Controversy: Mike Bamiloye Replies MFM Founder, Pastor Olukoya by joyandfaith: 4:33am On Dec 28, 2019
Day2logic:

If the day of worship can be changed why can’t there be a fixed date to celebrate Christ?

day of worship was not changed. Jews observed sabbath but disciples of jesus worshipped on Sunday first day of week as I stated in my earlier posts. Judaism and Christianity are quite different. Christianity started with jesus. Christians are not under mosaic law. on worship, there is no even rules on days to worship, some churches worship twice in a week.
comparing Christmas with worship on Sunday are not logical. I am sorry.
Re: Christmas Date Controversy: Mike Bamiloye Replies MFM Founder, Pastor Olukoya by Nobody: 6:02am On Dec 28, 2019
edoairways:
As copied
WHERE IS IT IN THE BIBLE?

Catholic Priest Rev Fr Oluoma Replies Olukoya

I wanted to pretend I didn't read about the G. O who said 'Christmas' is not in the Bible and so shouldn't be celebrated. It's the same funny mentality of those who confuse terminology with theology. Easter as a term is not in the Bible but we celebrate easter because it's an event and a mystery recorded in scripture. Same with Christmas, it's not the term or calendar date we celebrate but the event and mystery. One day now someone will wake up tipsy on 'anointing' and tell me to tell him why I call myself a Catholic since that term doesn't exist in the Bible. Same folly can be extended to all churches because no church has a name that's used as a group of church members in the Bible.

A Pentecostal church that says it doesn't celebrate Christmas bc the term doesn't exist in the Bible but calls itself a Pentecostal church is just a comic contradiction. Pentecost means 50th day, it was an agricultural feast that had nothing to do with the Holy Spirit until that particular year that the Holy Spirit fell on the apostles in Acts 2. Even after that there is no record in scripture that the Holy Spirit fell on other people on Pentecost day. If I wanted to be 'an anointed idiot' I would have been going round condemning Christians who identify as Pentecostals, quizzing them to show me where it's in the Bible that a group of believers were referred to as Pentecostals or to prove to me where any group of Christians celebrated Pentecost in the Bible. Yet common sense dictates that it's neither terminology nor semantics we identify as Pentecostal but the reality and mystery of the Holy Spirit.

Whoever adjectivised SENSE with COMMON hasn't experienced this generation of WHERE IS IT IN THE BIBLE intoxicated Christians, common sense is very rare. The Bible is not a dictionary or history book, it's more of a theology than terminology.

When you want to use the Bible to validate or invalidate any religious practice, you look for the biblical theology about it, not the terminology. Mothers day, fathers day, Children's day, etc are not in the Bible, but the Bible doesn't have anything against their celebration. It's only a religious ignoramus that will condemn those celebrations and get pious zombies to follow suit. If you care to know, there are many things we do in life that are not in the Bible and God isn't angry at all. Traditional marriage, village meetings, cross over vigils(these 'show me where it's in the Bible' folks who are addicted to 31st Dec Cross over vigil don't even know it's not in the Bible in their sense), birthday parties, wedding anniversaries etc are not in the Bible.

Finally, someone needs to tell Dr Olukoya that MFM has a football club, I've been searching for it in the Bible and couldn't find, abi no be MFM get that football club? Some nonsense must stop this 2019 o, let me come and be going.

You my friend are a brainwashed fanatic. I mean I am a Christian but you bringing up irrelevants like traditional marriage to conflate with the celebration of our lord Jesus Christ just to defend your Christmas belief is serious fanaticism.

I bet you also think there is nothing wrong with the picture of 'white Jesus' that are brandished everywhere in churches? You probably think "it's only a picture, it doesn't really matter, all that matters is the realm of the spirit........ "
Re: Christmas Date Controversy: Mike Bamiloye Replies MFM Founder, Pastor Olukoya by edoairways: 8:25am On Dec 28, 2019
jayfolarin:


You my friend are a brainwashed fanatic. I mean I am a Christian but you bringing up irrelevants like traditional marriage to conflate with the celebration of our lord Jesus Christ just to defend your Christmas belief is serious fanaticism.

I bet you also think there is nothing wrong with the picture of 'white Jesus' that are brandished everywhere in churches? You probably think "it's only a picture, it doesn't really matter, all that matters is the realm of the spirit........ "
You are the brainwashed person here
Re: Christmas Date Controversy: Mike Bamiloye Replies MFM Founder, Pastor Olukoya by Nobody: 8:34am On Dec 28, 2019
joyandfaith:


day of worship was not changed. Jews observed sabbath but disciples of jesus worshipped on Sunday first day of week as I stated in my earlier posts. Judaism and Christianity are quite different. Christianity started with jesus. Christians are not under mosaic law. on worship, there is no even rules on days to worship, some churches worship twice in a week.
comparing Christmas with worship on Sunday are not logical. I am sorry.

With all due respect sir what you are saying doesn’t make sense. But I will rather not continue flogging it. Neither of us can change Christmas, neither of us know when or why the particular day was choosing. God told the Israelites to keep the sabbath day holy if which is Saturday, if Christian start worshipping on Sunday then there must have been a change or event that changed something.
My concern is some people killed 10 Christians on Christmas Day, you are going to justify it with the fact that they chose a wrong date.
Re: Christmas Date Controversy: Mike Bamiloye Replies MFM Founder, Pastor Olukoya by femolii: 10:25am On Dec 28, 2019
joyandfaith:

if you think you are making sense, clap for yourself. something is popular does not make right. it is people that have nothing up stair that resort to insult during argument. and who told you olukoya does not preach against birth day celebration? and if he does not , is that an excuse for celebrating unscriptural festival?
Go and sit down you hv nothing to say if you are one of his members better withdraw your self now.
Re: Christmas Date Controversy: Mike Bamiloye Replies MFM Founder, Pastor Olukoya by femolii: 10:31am On Dec 28, 2019
seanwilliam:
you have successfully used your mouth to ruin your life here and in heaven..I know you will still form strong head, and the funniest thing is ,you would not notice this until later on your life
For you is certain that you will end up in hell fire with your master, claiming fake holiness.
Re: Christmas Date Controversy: Mike Bamiloye Replies MFM Founder, Pastor Olukoya by edoairways: 11:47am On Dec 28, 2019
Christians with their wahala.

Re: Christmas Date Controversy: Mike Bamiloye Replies MFM Founder, Pastor Olukoya by joyandfaith: 1:11pm On Dec 28, 2019
femolii:
Go and sit down you hv nothing to say if you are one of his members better withdraw your self now.
who is this?
Re: Christmas Date Controversy: Mike Bamiloye Replies MFM Founder, Pastor Olukoya by joyandfaith: 1:15pm On Dec 28, 2019
Day2logic:


With all due respect sir what you are saying doesn’t make sense. But I will rather not continue flogging it. Neither of us can change Christmas, neither of us know when or why the particular day was choosing. God told the Israelites to keep the sabbath day holy if which is Saturday, if Christian start worshipping on Sunday then there must have been a change or event that changed something.
My concern is some people killed 10 Christians on Christmas Day, you are going to justify it with the fact that they chose a wrong date.

are Christians under law of sabbath? No. please go and study your body ? you cannot comprehend because you are not willing to learn. if Christmas is good, have you ever asked yourself why Christmas tree and Santa claus? just a search in google will help u
Re: Christmas Date Controversy: Mike Bamiloye Replies MFM Founder, Pastor Olukoya by Nobody: 1:22pm On Dec 28, 2019
joyandfaith:


are Christians under law of sabbath? No. please go and study your body ? you cannot comprehend because you are not willing to learn. if Christmas is good, have you ever asked yourself why Christmas tree and Santa claus? just a search in google will help u
Hows Christmas celebration affecting you, me or the world at large? What’s the negative side to the world?
Re: Christmas Date Controversy: Mike Bamiloye Replies MFM Founder, Pastor Olukoya by Temmiey(m): 1:01am On Dec 29, 2019
joyandfaith:


try to ask them. but I know traditional wedding is legal. you may ask a lawyer for more enlightenment.
Traditional wedding is legal but has to be registered, the same way a church wedding has to be registered if it's not done in a legally designated church but if it's held there then the registry formality will also be carriedout the same date. That's what you see when you see a pastor asking the couple to hold Bible and repeat after him after which the couple are asked to sign a couple of document and then issues a marriage certificate.
Re: Christmas Date Controversy: Mike Bamiloye Replies MFM Founder, Pastor Olukoya by joyandfaith: 2:25am On Dec 29, 2019
Temmiey:
Traditional wedding is legal but has to be registered, the same way a church wedding has to be registered if it's not done in a legally designated church but if it's held there then the registry formality will also be carriedout the same date. That's what you see when you see a pastor asking the couple to hold Bible and repeat after him after which the couple are asked to sign a couple of document and then issues a marriage certificate.
nothing like church wedding in the eyes of law
Re: Christmas Date Controversy: Mike Bamiloye Replies MFM Founder, Pastor Olukoya by V9cypha: 10:43pm On May 04, 2020
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