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Jesus Forgets The Plot by AntiChristian: 6:21am On Jan 08, 2020
At some point the three persons of the Trinity—Yahweh, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit—agreed that Jesus should live as a human on earth.

Jesus was born as a divine being (except in Mark, where he becomes divine with his baptism) and lives out a life that ends with crucifixion. Just before that, he prayed with his disciples in the Garden of Gethsemane. To the few disciples with him, he said, “My soul is overwhelmed with sorrow to the point of death” (Matthew 26:38). Then he prays, “My Father, if it is possible, may this cup [he’s referring to the upcoming crucifixion] be taken from me.” He prays this three times. The story is the same in Mark, and in Luke, an angel strengthens Jesus.

Why did Jesus go off-script? He was part of the Trinity that decided this, so how could he be second-guessing the plan now?

We can look for a human comparison. It wouldn’t be surprising for an ordinary human to have second thoughts before a suicide mission, but in this story we’re talking about a god. Even if agony were a thing that he could perceive, why would an omniscient being question a plan that he knows is perfect?

The puzzle vanishes if we reinterpret the Jesus story as legend.

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Re: Jesus Forgets The Plot by Mokason28: 6:26am On Jan 08, 2020
Jesus I love you
Re: Jesus Forgets The Plot by AntiChristian: 7:55am On Jan 08, 2020
Mokason28:
Jesus I love you

Another way of saying you love the plot of the legend!

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Re: Jesus Forgets The Plot by Mokason28: 8:07am On Jan 08, 2020
AntiChristian:


Another way of saying you love the plot of the legend!
Nobody has ever regretted giving his life to Christ

Egbon give your life to Christ

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Re: Jesus Forgets The Plot by AntiChristian: 8:54am On Jan 08, 2020
Mokason28:

Nobody has ever regretted giving his life to Christ

Egbon give your life to Christ

OK, Mention one verse where Jesus himself requests me to give him my life? cool
Re: Jesus Forgets The Plot by Mokason28: 9:58am On Jan 08, 2020
AntiChristian:


OK, Mention one verse where Jesus himself requests me to give him my life? cool
John 3:16 “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.

Luke 23:43
Jesus told a repented thief that accepted Christ ...” I say to you, today you will be with Me in Paradise.’ ”
This shows two things there is life after death
And once you believe in Christ Jesus your sins are forgiven even at the hour of your death

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Re: Jesus Forgets The Plot by advocatejare(m): 10:02am On Jan 08, 2020
AntiChristian:

At some point the three persons of the Trinity—Yahweh, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit—agreed that Jesus should live as a human on earth.

Jesus was born as a divine being (except in Mark, where he becomes divine with his baptism) and lives out a life that ends with crucifixion. Just before that, he prayed with his disciples in the Garden of Gethsemane. To the few disciples with him, he said, “My soul is overwhelmed with sorrow to the point of death” (Matthew 26:38). Then he prays, “My Father, if it is possible, may this cup [he’s referring to the upcoming crucifixion] be taken from me.” He prays this three times. The story is the same in Mark, and in Luke, an angel strengthens Jesus.

Why did Jesus go off-script? He was part of the Trinity that decided this, so how could he be second-guessing the plan now?

We can look for a human comparison. It wouldn’t be surprising for an ordinary human to have second thoughts before a suicide mission, but in this story we’re talking about a god. Even if agony were a thing that he could perceive, why would an omniscient being question a plan that he knows is perfect?

The puzzle vanishes if we reinterpret the Jesus story as legend.
I don't know why you get fixated on Jesus this much, if only you channel your energy to promoting and rewriting how Muhammad the so called holy prophet lived a filthy and a miserable life maybe reasonable people will want to convert to Islam rather than Muslims using force to convert them

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Re: Jesus Forgets The Plot by oaroloye(m): 5:39pm On Jan 08, 2020
MISHIGAS!

AntiChristian:

At some point the three persons of the Trinity—Yahweh, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit—agreed that Jesus should live as a human on earth.

"TRINITY" IS YOUR BACKSLIDDEN HYPOCRITICAL OYINBO MASSAS MISINTERPRETATION OF THE GOSPEL.

The Trinity of The Bible is THE FATHER, THE LOGOS, and THE HOLY GHOST.

. GENESIS 1:1-3.

IN The Beginning God
created The Heaven and the Earth.
2. And the Earth was without form, and void;
and Darkness was upon the face of the deep.
And The Spirit of God moved
upon the face of the waters.
3. And God Said,

"Let there be light:
and there was light."

GOD'S NATIVE HABITAT HAS NEITHER SPACE NOR TIME, AS APPLIES TO OUR OWN UNIVERSE, AND THE SEVEN SHAMAYYIM (HEAVENS.

Therefore, God could not leave His Native Habitat- presumed to be "ETERNITY," because there is neither SPACE nor TIME for Him to move.

To create the Seven Heavens and Earth Universes, God created an exact duplicate of Himself, to operate in Space and Time.

. JOHN 1:1-14.

IN THE Beginning was The Word,
and The Word was with God,
and The Word was God.
2. The Same was
in The Beginning with God.
3. All things were made by Him;
and without Him
was not any thing made
that was made.
4. In Him was Life;
and The Life was The Light of Men.
5. And The Light shineth in Darkness;
and The Darkness comprehended It not.

6. There was a man sent from God,
whose name was John.
7. The same came for a witness,
to bear witness of The Light,
that all men through him might believe.
8. He was not That Light,
but was sent to Bear Witness of that Light.
9. That was The True Light,
Which lighteth every man
that cometh into The World.

10. He was in the World,
and the World was made by him,
and the World knew him not.
11. He came unto his own,
and his own received him not.
12. But as many as received him,
to them gave he Power
to become The Sons of God,
even to them
that believe on his Name:
13. Which were Born,
not of Blood,
nor of the Will of the Flesh,
nor of the Will of Man,
but of God.
14. And The Word was made flesh,
and dwelt among us,
[and we beheld his Glory,
The Glory as of
The only Begotten of The Father,]
full of Grace and Truth.

YOCHANNAN "THE BELOVED DISCIPLE" LIED AND SAID THAT LORD YESHUA WAS THE LOGOS.

This is the basis of the Deviant Christian beliefs that "LORD YESHUA IS GOD," is "ONE OF THREE GODS," is "THE ONLY GOD."

[See: BILLY GRAHAM, or KENNETH E. HAGIN (Trinitarianism).
WILLIAM BRANHAM or FRANKLIN HALL (Unitarianism).
BENNY HINN (Psycho-Nutjob).]

EVERYTHING that exists was once THE LOGOS (Recorded Word).

. JOHN 15:26-27.

26. "But when The Comforter is come,
Whom I will send unto you from The Father,
even The Spirit of Truth,
which proceedeth from The Father,
He shall testify of me:
27. "And ye also shall bear witness,
because ye have been with me
From The Beginning."

THE HOLY GHOST IS THE PRESENCE OF GOD THAT STREAMS DIRECTLY FROM THE FATHER.

Lord Yeshua was nothing more and nothing less than a MAN.

Otherwise, following him would be pointless.

We would either be required to be more than Human, or else less than Human.

. MARK 8:27-30.

27. And Jesus went out, and his Disciples,
into the towns of Caesarea Philippi:
and by the way he asked his Disciples,
Saying unto them,

"Whom do men say that I am?"

28. And they answered,

"John the Baptist; but some say, Elias;
and others, One of the Prophets."

29. And he Saith unto them,

"But whom say ye that I am?"

And Peter answereth
and saith unto him,

"Thou art The Christ."

30. And he charged them
that they should tell no man of him.

LORD YESHUA FORBADE HIS DISCIPLES TO TELL ANY MAN OF HIM.

People ignorant of The Bible think that Lord Yeshua tried to convince his fellow Israelites of his being The HaMishiach, or of being God- and was disbelieved, and executed as a Blasphemer.

That is not what happened:

. MATTHEW 16:13-20.

13. When Jesus came into
the coasts of Caesarea Philippi,
he asked his Disciples,
Saying,

"Whom do men say that I
The Son of Man am?"

14. And they said,

"Some say that thou art John the Baptist:
some, Elias; and others, Jeremias,
or one of the Prophets."

15. He Saith unto them,

"But whom say ye that I am?"

16. And Simon Peter answered and said,

"Thou art the Christ,
The Son of The Living God."

17. And Jesus answered
and Said unto him,

"Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona:
for flesh and blood
hath not revealed it unto thee,
but my Father Which is in Heaven.
18. "And I Say also unto thee,

'THAT THOU ART PETER,
AND UPON THIS ROCK
I WILL BUILD MY CHURCH;
AND THE GATES OF HELL
SHALL NOT PREVAIL AGAINST IT.'


19. "And I will give unto thee
The Keys of The Kingdom of Heaven:
and whatsoever thou shalt bind on Earth
shall be bound in Heaven:
and whatsoever thou shalt loose on Earth
shall be loosed in Heaven."

20. Then charged he his Disciples
that they should tell no man
that he was Jesus The Christ.

TRUE CHRISTIANITY CONSISTS OF PEOPLE WHO BELIEVE IN LORD YESHUA, BECAUSE GOD HAS TOLD THEM WHO HE IS.

. MATTHEW 11:25-30.

25. At that time
Jesus answered and Said,

"I thank thee,
O Father,
Lord of Heaven and Earth,
because thou hast hid
these things from the wise and prudent,
and hast revealed them unto Babes.
26. "Even so, Father:
for so it seemed good in Thy Sight.
27. "All things are delivered unto me
of my Father:
and no man knoweth The Son,
but The Father;
neither knoweth any man The Father,
save The Son,
and he to whomsoever The Son
will reveal Him.
28. "Come unto me,
all ye that labour
and are heavy laden,
and I will give you rest.
29. "Take my yoke upon you,
and learn of me;
for I am meek and lowly in heart:
and ye shall find rest unto your souls.
30 For my yoke is easy,
and my burden is light."

EVERY TRUE ISRAELITE HAD THE ABILITY TO HEAR THE VOICE OF GOD.

. DEUTERONOMY 30:19-20.

19. I call Heaven and Earth
to record this Day against you,
that I have set before you Life and Death,
Blessing and Cursing:
therefore choose Life,

That both thou and thy seed may live:

20. That thou mayest love The LORD thy God,

and that thou mayest obey His Voice,

and that thou mayest cleave unto Him:

for He is thy life, and the length of thy days:

that thou mayest dwell in the Land
which the LORD sware unto thy fathers,
to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob,
to give them.

ANYONE WHO COULD NOT HEAR THE VOICE OF GOD WAS NOT A TRUE ISRAELITE.

. NUMBERS 15:27-31.

27. "And if any Soul Sin through ignorance,
then he shall bring a she goat of the first year
for a sin offering.
28. "And the Priest shall make an Atonement
for the Soul that sinneth ignorantly,
when he sinneth by ignorance
before The LORD,
to make an Atonement for him;
and it shall be forgiven him.
29. "Ye shall have One Law for him
that sinneth through ignorance,
both for him that is born among The Children of Israel,
and for the Stranger that sojourneth among them.
30. "But the Soul that doeth ought presumptuously,
whether he be born in the Land, or a Stranger,
the same reproacheth the LORD;
and that soul shall be cut off from among his people.
31. "Because he hath Despised The Word of The LORD,
and hath Broken His Commandment,
that soul shall utterly be cut off;
his iniquity shall be upon him."

IT SHOULD NOT BE GOING TOO FAR TO SAY THAT THOSE WHO CANNOT HEAR THE VOICE OF GOD ARE NOT MERELY NOT QUALIFIED TO BE ISRAELITES: THEY ARE NO LONGER QUALIFIED TO BE CALLED "HUMAN BEINGS!"

If you cannot hear The Voice of GOD, what good are you?

. JOHN 6:41-45.

41. The Jews then murmured at him,
because he Said,

" I AM THE BREAD
WHICH CAME DOWN
FROM HEAVEN."


42. And they said,
"Is not this Jesus, the son of Joseph,
whose father and mother we know?
how is it then that he saith,

'I CAME DOWN FROM HEAVEN?' "

43. Jesus therefore answered
and Said unto them,

"Murmur not among yourselves.
44. "No man can come to me,
except the Father
Which hath sent me
draw him:
and I will raise him up
at The Last Day.
45. "It is written in the Prophets,

'AND THEY SHALL BE
ALL TAUGHT OF GOD.'


Every man therefore that hath heard,
and hath learned of The Father,
cometh unto me."

TRUE WORSHIPPERS OF GOD HIGHLY-FUNCTION ON AS MANY AS SEVEN LEVELS OF HEAVENLY WISDOM AND UNDERSTANDING.

. JOB 28:28.

28. "And unto Man He Said,

'BEHOLD, THE FEAR OF THE LORD,
THAT (IS) WISDOM;
AND TO DEPART FROM EVIL
(IS) UNDERSTANDING.' "


. PSALM 111:10.

10. The Fear of The LORD
is The Beginning of Wisdom:
a Good Understanding have all they
that do (His Commandments):
His Praise endureth for ever.

INSTEAD OF MOCKING WISDOM THAT IS ABOVE YOUR LEVEL OF UNDERSTANDING, YOU OUGHT TO BE ABASING YOURSELF BEFORE GOD, PLEADING WITH HIM TO OPEN YOUR EYES, THAT YOU MIGHT SEE!

AntiChristian:

Jesus was born as a divine being (except in Mark, where he becomes divine with his baptism) and lives out a life that ends with crucifixion. Just before that, he prayed with his disciples in the Garden of Gethsemane. To the few disciples with him, he said, “My soul is overwhelmed with sorrow to the point of death” (Matthew 26:38). Then he prays, “My Father, if it is possible, may this cup [he’s referring to the upcoming crucifixion] be taken from me.” He prays this three times. The story is the same in Mark, and in Luke, an angel strengthens Jesus.

WHO TOLD YOU THAT LORD YESHUA "BECAME DIVINE?"

That is you, adding your Massas' nonsense misinterpretations to The Bible, so that you can all laugh at It, and call It foolishness.

Lord Yeshua was as much the Son of God before his Baptism as after.

Atheists invent impossible attributes for God, and then hold up The Bible as foolish, for not depicting God as living up to the imaginary attributes they invented for him- namely: "OMNISCIENCE," "OMNIPOTENCE," and "OMNIPRESENCE."

In calling Lord Yeshua a "DIVINE BEING," you are surely committing the blasphemous error of presuming that Lord Yeshua knew everything about his Future, and about any alternatives to the course he was on.

Working with God is a journey of continual Enlightenment.

Many times, when you think that you know all there is to know about a situation, you are led into a new Truth, that opens up a different, more advanced viewpoint, that renders your previous Knowledge redundant.

For instance, MOSES learned to use the staff that God had anointed for His Work, but, at a point, God told Moses to use VOCAL COMMAND, instead of tapping on a rock with the staff. Moses went back on the Old Method, which God had declared obsolete.

God gave what he had Promised, but told Moses that his act of Unbelief had cost him that right to enter into The Promised Land he was to spend forty years leading his people to- the people whom God told him that He should summarily execute and be done with it.

Telling God that we know better than Him has never ended well.

AntiChristian:

Why did Jesus go off-script? He was part of the Trinity that decided this, so how could he be second-guessing the plan now?

WHO TOLD YOU THAT LORD YESHUA WAS PART OF A "TRINITY," AND DECIDED ANYTHING ABOUT HIS LIFE?

. MATTHEW 4:1-11.

THEN was Jesus led up of The Spirit
into the wilderness to be tempted of The Devil.
2. And when he had fasted forty days and forty nights,
he was afterward an hungred.
3. And when The Tempter came to him,
he said,

"If thou be the Son of God,
Command that these stones be made bread."

4. But he answered and Said,
"It is written,

'MAN SHALL NOT LIVE
BY BREAD ALONE,
BUT BY EVERY WORD
THAT PROCEEDETH
OUT OF THE MOUTH OF GOD.' "


5. Then The Devil taketh him up into the Holy City,
and setteth him on a pinnacle of the Temple,
6. And saith unto him,

"If thou be the Son of God,
cast thyself down:
for it is written,

'HE SHALL GIVE HIS ANGELS
CHARGE CONCERNING THEE:
AND IN THEIR HANDS
THEY SHALL BEAR THEE UP,
LEST AT ANY TIME
THOU DASH THY FOOT
AGAINST A STONE.' "


7. Jesus said unto him,

"It is written again,

'THOU SHALT NOT
TEMPT THE LORD THY GOD.' "


8. Again, The Devil taketh him up
into an exceeding high mountain,
and sheweth him all The Kingdoms of the World,
and The Glory of them;
9. And saith unto him,

"All these things will I give thee,
if thou wilt fall down and worship me."
10. Then saith Jesus unto him,

"Get thee hence, Satan:
for it is written,

'THOU SHALT WORSHIP
THE LORD THY GOD,
AND HIM ONLY
SHALT THOU SERVE.' "


11. Then The Devil leaveth him,
and, behold,
Angels came and ministered unto him.

EVERYTHING HE KNEW ABOUT HIS MISSION, HE HAD BEEN TOLD.

He was not a part of the Decision-Making Process!

. JOHN 12:42-50.

42. Nevertheless among the Chief Rulers also
many believed on him;
but because of the Pharisees
they did not confess him,
lest they should be put out of the Synagogue:
43. For they loved the Praise of Men
more than The Praise of God.

44. Jesus cried and Said,

“He that believeth on me,
believeth not on me,
but on Him that sent me.
45. “And he that seeth me
seeth Him that sent me.
46. “I am come a Light into the World,
that whosoever believeth on me
should not abide in Darkness.
47. “And if any man hear my Words,
and believe not,
I judge him not:
for I came not to judge the World,
but to save the World.
48. “He that rejecteth me,
and receiveth not my Words,
hath One that judgeth him:
The Word that I have Spoken,
the Same shall judge him in The Last Day.
49. “For I have not Spoken of myself;
but the Father which sent me,
He gave me a Commandment,
what I should Say,
and what I should Speak.
50. “And I know that
His Commandment is Life Everlasting:
whatsoever I Speak therefore,
even as The Father Said unto me,
so I Speak."

HE ONLY DID WHAT ANY MAN SERVING GOD COULD DO- HE DID NOTHING FROM HIMSELF.

. JOHN 14:1-12.

"LET not your heart be troubled:
ye believe in God,
believe also in me.
2. "In my Father's House
are many Mansions:
if it were not so,
I would have told you.
I go to prepare a place for you.
3. "And if I go and prepare a place for you,
I will come again,
and receive you unto myself;
that where I am,
there ye may be also.
4. "And whither I go ye know,
and The Way ye know."

5. Thomas saith unto him,

"Lord, we know not whither thou goest;
and how can we know The Way?"

6. Jesus Saith unto him,

"I am The Way, The Truth, and The Life:
no man cometh unto The Father,
but by me.
7. "If ye had known me,
ye should have Known my Father also:
and from henceforth ye Know Him,
and have seen Him."

8. Philip saith unto him,

"Lord, shew us the Father,
and it sufficeth us."

9. Jesus Saith unto him,

"Have I been so long time with you,
and yet hast thou not known me,
Philip?
He that hath seen me hath seen The Father;
and how sayest thou then,

'SHEW US THE FATHER?'

10. "Believest thou not
that I am in the Father,
and the Father in me?
The Words that I speak unto you
I speak not of myself:
but the Father that dwelleth in me,
he doeth The Works.
11. "Believe me
that I am in The Father,
and The Father in me:
or else believe me
for the very Works' sake.
12. "Verily, verily,
I Say unto you,

'HE THAT BELIEVETH ON ME,
THE WORKS THAT I DO
SHALL HE DO ALSO;'


and Greater (Works) than these shall he do;
because I go unto my Father.”

ATTAINING HOLINESS, WE WILL ACQUIRE EVERLASTING LIFE IF WE COMPLETE REHABILITATION OF THE TEN TALENTS.

. THE TEN TALENTS OF POWER.

(1) TOTAL RECALL.
(2) EXTRASENSORY PERCEPTION.
(3) TELEKINESIS.
(4) TELEPORTATION.
(5) TRANSLATION.
(6-10) EVERLASTING LIFE.


This is the Message of the whole Bible in general, and The Gospel in particular.

The application of these Powers is what God created us for.

Lord Yeshua sacrificed himself to make this possible for anyone who would distance themselves from complicity in his Death.

AntiChristian:

We can look for a human comparison. It wouldn’t be surprising for an ordinary human to have second thoughts before a suicide mission, but in this story we’re talking about a god. Even if agony were a thing that he could perceive, why would an omniscient being question a plan that he knows is perfect?

LORD YESHUA WAS NOT A GOD, NEITHER DID HE CLAIM TO BE A GOD.


[To be Continued.]
Re: Jesus Forgets The Plot by oaroloye(m): 6:50pm On Jan 08, 2020
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color=silver].[/color] MARK 7:1-23.

THEN came together unto him the Pharisees,
and certain of the scribes,
which came from Jerusalem.
2. And when they saw some of his Disciples
eat bread with defiled,
that is to say,
with unwashen, hands,
they found fault.
3. For the Pharisees,
and all the Jews,
except they wash their hands oft,
eat not,
holding The Tradition of the Elders.
4. And when they come from the market,
except they wash,
they eat not.
And many other things there be,
which they have received to hold,
as the washing of cups, and pots,
brasen vessels, and of tables.
5. Then the Pharisees and scribes asked him,

"Why walk not thy Disciples
according to the Tradition of the Elders,
but eat bread with unwashen hands?"

6. He answered and Said unto them,

"Well hath Esaias prophesied of you Hypocrites,
as it is written,

'THIS PEOPLE HONOURETH ME
WITH THEIR LIPS,
BUT THEIR HEART
IS FAR FROM ME.
7. 'HOWBEIT IN VAIN
DO THEY WORSHIP ME,
TEACHING FOR DOCTRINES
THE COMMANDMENTS OF MEN.'


8. "For laying aside The Commandment of God,
ye hold The Tradition of Men,
as the washing of pots and cups:
and many other such like things ye do."

9. And he said unto them,

"Full well ye reject
The Commandment of God,
that ye may keep your own Tradition.
10. "For Moses said,

'HONOUR THY FATHER AND THY MOTHER;'

and,

'WHOSO CURSETH FATHER OR MOTHER,
LET HIM DIE THE DEATH:'


11. "But ye say,

'IF A MAN SHALL SAY TO HIS FATHER OR MOTHER,
"IT IS CORBAN, THAT IS TO SAY, A GIFT,
BY WHATSOEVER THOU MIGHTEST
BE PROFITED BY ME;"
HE SHALL BE FREE.'


12. "And ye suffer him no more to do ought
for his father or his mother;
13. "Making The Word of God of none effect
through your Tradition,
which ye have delivered:
and many such like things do ye."

14. And when he had called
all the people unto him,
he Said unto them,

"Hearken unto me every one of you,
and understand:
15. "There is nothing from without a man,
that entering into him can defile him:
but the things which come out of him,
those are they that defile the man.
16. "If any man have ears to hear,
let him hear."

17. And when he was entered into the house
from the people,
his Disciples asked him
concerning the Parable.
18. And he Saith unto them,

"Are ye so without understanding also?
Do ye not perceive,
that whatsoever thing
from without entereth into the man,
it cannot defile him;
19. "Because it entereth not into his heart,
but into the belly,
and goeth out into the draught,
purging all meats?"

20 And he Said,

"That which cometh out of the man,
that defileth the man.
21. "For from within,
out of the heart of men,
proceed Evil Thoughts,
Adulteries, Fornications, Murders,
22. "Thefts, Covetousness, Wickedness,
Deceit, Lasciviousness,
An Evil Eye, Blasphemy,
Pride, Foolishness:
23. "All these Evil Things
come from within,
and defile the man."

THE PHARISEES MADE UP A COMMANDMENT SUPERSEDING THE LAW OF MOSES, SAYING, IN EFFECT, THAT CHILDREN ARE EQUALS WITH THEIR PARENTS, SO THAT WHEN LORD YESHUA SAID THAT HE WAS THE SON OF GOD, THEY SAID THAT THAT MEANT THAT HE WAS SAYING THAT HE WAS EQUAL WITH GOD.

Lord Yeshua never claimed that.

. JOHN 14:28.

28. "Ye have heard how I Said unto you,

'I GO AWAY,
AND COME AGAIN UNTO YOU.'


If ye loved me,
ye would rejoice,
because I Said,

'I GO UNTO THE FATHER:'

for my Father is greater than I."

. JOHN 20:17.

17. Jesus Saith unto her,

"Touch me not;
for I am not yet
Ascended to my Father:
but go to my Brethren,
and say unto them,

' I ASCEND UNTO MY FATHER,
AND YOUR FATHER;
AND TO MY GOD,
AND YOUR GOD.' "


Not even God ever claimed to be OMNISCIENT.

Where did Lord Yeshua ever claim such a useless Power?

He never did.
. MARK 5:22-43.

22. And, behold, there cometh one of the rulers of the synagogue,
Jairus by name; and when he saw him, he fell at his feet,
23. And besought him greatly,
saying,

"My little daughter lieth at the point of death:
1I pray thee, come and lay thy hands on her,
that she may be healed; and she shall live."

24. And Jesus went with him;
and much people followed him,
and thronged him.
25. And a certain woman,
which had an issue of blood twelve years,
26. And had suffered many things of many physicians,
and had spent all that she had, and was nothing bettered,
but rather grew worse,
27. When she had heard of Jesus,
came in the press behind,
and touched his garment.
28. For she said,

"If I may touch but his clothes,
I shall be whole."

29. And straightway the fountain of her blood was dried up;
and she felt in her body that she was healed of that plague.
30. And Jesus,
immediately knowing in himself
that Virtue had gone out of him,
turned him about in the press,
and Said,

"Who touched my clothes?"

31. And his Disciples said unto him,

"Thou seest the multitude thronging thee,
and sayest thou,

'Who touched me?' "

32. And he looked round about to see her
that had done this thing.
33. But the woman fearing and trembling,
1knowing what was done in her,
came and fell down before him,
and told him all the truth.
34. And he Said unto her,

"Daughter, thy Faith hath made thee whole;
go in peace, and be whole of thy plague."

35. While he yet Spake, there came
from the ruler of the synagogue's house
certain which said,

"Thy daughter is dead:
why troublest thou the Master any further?"

36. As soon as Jesus heard the word that was spoken,
he saith unto the ruler of the synagogue,
"Be not afraid, only believe."

37. And he suffered no man to follow him,
save Peter, and James, and John the brother of James.
38. And he cometh to the house of the ruler of the synagogue,
and seeth the tumult, and them that wept and wailed greatly.
39. And when he was come in, he Saith unto them,

"Why make ye this ado, and weep?
The damsel is not dead, but sleepeth."

40. And they laughed him to scorn.
But when he had put them all out,
he taketh the father and the mother of the damsel,
and them that were with him,
and entereth in where the damsel was lying.
41. And he took the damsel by the hand,
and said unto her,

"TALITHA CUMI;"

which is, being interpreted,

"DAMSEL,
I SAY UNTO THEE,
ARISE."



42. And straightway the damsel arose,
and walked;
for she was of the age of twelve years.
And they were astonished with a great astonishment.
43. And he charged them straitly that no man should know it;
and commanded that something should be given her to eat.

AntiChristian:

The puzzle vanishes if we reinterpret the Jesus story as legend.

A HUMBLE MAN WOULD CONSIDER ANY POSSIBILITY THAN TO ACCUSE GOD.

A fool would conclude something foolish that they would like to accuse Lord Yeshua of, and their brains would shut down for the day.

. EPISTLE OF BARNABAS 10:11-12.

11. And Moses again says about food,

"AND EAT EVERY THING CLOVEN-FOOTED AND
THAT DRAWETH UP [THE CUD.]"


Why says he so ?
Because when receiving nourishment
it knows Him who nourishes it,
and resting upon Him
it seems to be made glad.
He spake well,
looking to the Commandment.
What then does he mean?
That we should join ourselves
to those who fear the Lord,
to those who meditate in their heart
on the explanation of the Word
which they have received,
to those who preach the Judgments
of the Lord and observe them,
to those who know
that Meditation is a Work of Gladness,
and to those who
ruminate on The Word of the Lord.
And why the clovenfooted?
Because the just man both walks in this World,
and also looks for the Holy Age.
Look how well Moses made his Laws.
12. But how could they [the Jews] perceive
or understand these things ?
But we,
rightly understanding the Commands,
rightly preach as the Lord wished.
For this purpose he circumcised
our ears and hearts,
that we might understand these things.

THE GENTILE FOOL WILL THINK THAT HE CAN READ THE BIBLE LIKE HE READS SOME TRASHY MAGAZINE, OR STUPID NOVEL.

To understand Ancient Hebrew Israelite Scriptures, YOU HAVE TO THINK LIKE A HEBREW ISRAELITE.

The average Israelite has read his whole Bible through many times before their adult years, and would recognize any quotation or correlation immediately. The average Gentile "Bible-Believer" hopes to "get around to it, someday."

They make up and form Doctrines without knowing the scriptures that invalidate their idea.

They love these ideas so much, that they will not give them up, even though they are proven to be wrong.

. JOSHUA 1:8.

8. "This Book of The Law
shall not depart out of thy mouth
but thou shalt meditate therein day and night,
that thou mayest do
according to all that is written therein:
for then thou shalt make thy way prosperous,
and then thou shalt have Good success."

. PSALM 1:1-6.

BLESSED is the man
that walketh not in The Counsel of the Ungodly,
nor standeth in The Way of Sinners,
nor sitteth in The Seat of the Scornful.
2. But his delight is in The Law of The LORD;
and in His Law doth he meditate day and night.
3. And he shall be like a tree
planted by the rivers of water,
that bringeth forth his fruit in his season;
his leaf also shall not wither;
and whatsoever he doeth shall prosper.
4. The Ungodly are not so:
but are like the chaff which the wind driveth away.
5. Therefore the Ungodly shall not stand in the Judgment,
nor Sinners in the Congregation of the Righteous.
6. For The LORD knoweth The Way of the Righteous:
but the Way of the Ungodly shall perish.

THE HEBREW ISRAELITE HAS PRACTICED ANALYZING SCRIPTURES FROM EVERY ACCESSIBLE VIEWPOINT ALL THEIR ADULT LIFE, SO THAT THEY CAN SEE ALL THESE ALTERNATIVES IN SECONDS, WHICH A GENTILE MIGHT TAKE DAYS TO REASON OUT.

There is no place where Lord Yeshua questions God's Plan.

He merely asked to be shown whether he perhaps missed something.

He sweated so much, it was as if he were bleeding-out.

He was obviously putting a lot of effort into this unprecedented operation.

If it were YOU- you are so stupid, that you would proceed to Blaspheme God's Prophet without considering that you were digging an Elevator Shaft down to HELL , with that your mouth.

There is no way back from what you are doing.

That is, it has never happened before, that someone turned from mocking The Gospel to Final Salvation.

They always fall into some Counterfeit Christianity version, when they try that.

[Concluded.]
Re: Jesus Forgets The Plot by orisa37: 6:33am On Jan 09, 2020
NOT A PLOT. IT'S A PLAN, WORD OF GOD. JESUS DOESN'T FORGET NOTHING. HE IS JUST ACTING.

JESUS IS THE SON OF MAN-THE BIRTH-THE CRUCIFIXION AND THE POLITICS.

CHRIST IS THE SON OF GOD-THE RESURRECTION AND THE PHILOSOPHY.

POPE FRANCIS SLAPPED A WOMAN FOR BEING ROUGH TO HIM, AFTER HE, HIMSELF, HAS QUARRIED "LEAD US NOT INTO TEMPTATION BUT DELIVER US FROM EVIL".
SO YOU, PETER WHO CUT OFF THE EAR OF THE CENTURION AND I ARE THE ECONOMIC INTERPRETATION OF THE BIRTH, CRUCIFIXION AND THE RESURRECTION OF THE WORD OF GOD, THAT WAS WITH GOD AND WAS GOD THAT BECOMES THE LIGHT, THE GOOD AND THE LIFE OF THE WORLD.

MAY GOD GRANT US PROPER UNDERSTANDING OF THE FATHER, THE SON AND THE HOLY SPIRIT.

PLOT IS VULGAR. PLAN OR WORD IS BIBLICAL AND PROFESSIONAL.

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Re: Jesus Forgets The Plot by MuttleyLaff: 5:23am On Jan 11, 2020
orisa37:
NOT A PLOT. IT'S A PLAN, WORD OF GOD.
JESUS DOESN'T FORGET NOTHING
. HE IS JUST ACTING.
JESUS IS THE SON OF MAN-THE BIRTH-THE CRUCIFIXION AND THE POLITICS.

CHRIST IS THE SON OF GOD-THE RESURRECTION AND THE PHILOSOPHY.

POPE FRANCIS SLAPPED A WOMAN FOR BEING ROUGH TO HIM, AFTER HE, HIMSELF, HAS QUARRIED "LEAD US NOT INTO TEMPTATION BUT DELIVER US FROM EVIL".
SO YOU, PETER WHO CUT OFF THE EAR OF THE CENTURION AND I ARE THE ECONOMIC INTERPRETATION OF THE BIRTH, CRUCIFIXION AND THE RESURRECTION OF THE WORD OF GOD, THAT WAS WITH GOD AND WAS GOD THAT BECOMES THE LIGHT, THE GOOD AND THE LIFE OF THE WORLD.

MAY GOD GRANT US PROPER UNDERSTANDING OF THE FATHER, THE SON AND THE HOLY SPIRIT.

PLOT IS VULGAR. PLAN OR WORD IS BIBLICAL AND PROFESSIONAL.
Gbam.
Re: Jesus Forgets The Plot by MuttleyLaff: 6:07am On Jan 11, 2020
Mokason28:
Nobody has ever regretted giving his life to Christ
Egbon give your life to Christ
"Very truly I tell you, unless a kernel of wheat falls to the ground and dies,
it remains only a single seed. But if it dies, it produces many seeds
(i.e. its death will produce many new kernels—a plentiful harvest of new lives)
"
- John 12:24

AntiChristian, John 12:24 above and the following verses coming below, is the reason, why that no one will ever regret giving his/her life to Christ

AntiChristian:
OK, Mention one verse where Jesus Himself requests me to give Him my life? cool
"Jesus answered and said to her,
"If you had known the gift of God and who it is saying to you, 'Give Me to drink,'
you would have asked Him, and He would have given to you living water."
"
- John 4:10

"He that has an ear let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the congregations {Gr. ekklesia – called out ones};
To him that overcomes I will give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God.
"
- Revelation 2:7

"And the Spirit and the bride say,
“Come!” And let him who hears say, “Come!” And let him who thirsts come.
Whoever desires, let him take the water of life freely.
"
- Revelation 22:17

AntiChristian, the above, are the closest, you'll ever get of a verse, where Jesus Himself requests you to give Him your life or give anything else up, for life-giving water.
Re: Jesus Forgets The Plot by AntiChristian: 6:22am On Jan 11, 2020
MuttleyLaff:
"Very truly I tell you, unless a kernel of wheat falls to the ground and dies,
it remains only a single seed. But if it dies, it produces many seeds
(i.e. its death will produce many new kernels—a plentiful harvest of new lives)
"
- John 12:24

AntiChristian, John 12:24 above and the following verses coming below, is the reason, why that no one will ever regret giving his/her life to Christ

"Jesus answered and said to her,
"If you had known the gift of God and who it is saying to you, 'Give Me to drink,'
you would have asked Him, and He would have given to you living water."
"
- John 4:10

"He that has an ear let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the congregations {Gr. ekklesia – called out ones};
To him that overcomes I will give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God.
"
- Revelation 2:7

"And the Spirit and the bride say,
“Come!” And let him who hears say, “Come!” And let him who thirsts come.
Whoever desires, let him take the water of life freely.
"
- Revelation 22:17

AntiChristian, the above, are the closest, you'll ever get of a verse, where Jesus Himself requests you to give Him your life or give anything else up, for life-giving water.

You Christians spread falsehood too much! A man came to Jesus in Matthew asking what he should do to enter paradise. Did Jesus tell him to accept him? No! He told him first to keep the commandments....then to sell all he has and shared them....and then to come and follow him.
Re: Jesus Forgets The Plot by Mokason28: 6:23am On Jan 11, 2020
MuttleyLaff:
"Very truly I tell you, unless a kernel of wheat falls to the ground and dies,
it remains only a single seed. But if it dies, it produces many seeds
(i.e. its death will produce many new kernels—a plentiful harvest of new lives)
"
- John 12:24

AntiChristian, John 12:24 above and the following verses coming below, is the reason, why that no one will ever regret giving his/her life to Christ

"Jesus answered and said to her,
"If you had known the gift of God and who it is saying to you, 'Give Me to drink,'
you would have asked Him, and He would have given to you living water."
"
- John 4:10

"He that has an ear let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the congregations {Gr. ekklesia – called out ones};
To him that overcomes I will give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God.
"
- Revelation 2:7

"And the Spirit and the bride say,
“Come!” And let him who hears say, “Come!” And let him who thirsts come.
Whoever desires, let him take the water of life freely.
"
- Revelation 22:17

AntiChristian, the above, are the closest, you'll ever get of a verse, where Jesus Himself requests you to give Him your life or give anything else up, for life-giving water.
I don’t have your time.... its crystal clear you have comprehension issues dats why you added me in ur mentions. undecided
Re: Jesus Forgets The Plot by AntiChristian: 6:27am On Jan 11, 2020
orisa37:
NOT A PLOT. IT'S A PLAN, WORD OF GOD. JESUS DOESN'T FORGET NOTHING. HE IS JUST ACTING.

JESUS IS THE SON OF MAN-THE BIRTH-THE CRUCIFIXION AND THE POLITICS.

CHRIST IS THE SON OF GOD-THE RESURRECTION AND THE PHILOSOPHY.

POPE FRANCIS SLAPPED A WOMAN FOR BEING ROUGH TO HIM, AFTER HE, HIMSELF, HAS QUARRIED "LEAD US NOT INTO TEMPTATION BUT DELIVER US FROM EVIL".
SO YOU, PETER WHO CUT OFF THE EAR OF THE CENTURION AND I ARE THE ECONOMIC INTERPRETATION OF THE BIRTH, CRUCIFIXION AND THE RESURRECTION OF THE WORD OF GOD, THAT WAS WITH GOD AND WAS GOD THAT BECOMES THE LIGHT, THE GOOD AND THE LIFE OF THE WORLD.

MAY GOD GRANT US PROPER UNDERSTANDING OF THE FATHER, THE SON AND THE HOLY SPIRIT.

PLOT IS VULGAR. PLAN OR WORD IS BIBLICAL AND PROFESSIONAL.

It's a plot.

Here are more evidences that your Lord can deceive and plot!

Yes, the Lord can be a Deceiver too as the situation demands. Pick up your Bible and follow. If you notice any lie please call my attention to it.

Topic
And your Lord is a great deceiver too

Jeremiah 4:10
Then I said, "Ah, Sovereign LORD, how completely you have deceived (nasha) this people and Jerusalem by saying, 'You will have peace,' when the sword is at our throats."

We have it in...

1 Kings 22:20-22
And the LORD said, 'Who will entice Ahab into attacking Ramoth Gilead and going to his death there?'
"One suggested this, and another that. 21 Finally, a spirit came forward, stood before the LORD and said, 'I will entice him.'
" 'By what means?' the LORD asked.
" 'I will go out and be a lying spirit in the mouths of all his prophets,' he said.
" 'You will succeed in enticing him,' said the LORD. 'Go and do it.'

Here we see that the man said that he would resort to lying in order to entice Ahab and God supported the idea and told him to go ahead and do it!

We even have it in...

Ezekiel 14:9-11
" 'And if the prophet is enticed to utter a prophecy, I the LORD have enticed that prophet, and I will stretch out my hand against him and destroy him from among my people Israel. 10 They will bear their guilt-the prophet will be as guilty as the one who consults him. 11 Then the people of Israel will no longer stray from me, nor will they defile themselves anymore with all their sins. They will be my people, and I will be their God, declares the Sovereign LORD.' "

God is punishing him for a crime that He enticed him to do in the first place? Isn't that entrapment?

Another passage...

Isaiah 37:6-7
Isaiah said to them, "Tell your master, 'This is what the LORD says: Do not be afraid of what you have heard-those words with which the underlings of the king of Assyria have blasphemed me. Listen! I am going to put a spirit in him so that when he hears a certain report, he will return to his own country, and there I will have him cut down with the sword.'

God had that spirit spread a rumor so that the King of Assyria can to return to his homeland. In short, that spirit's purpose was for deception.

Another example from the Bible...

Isaiah 19:14
The LORD has poured into them a spirit of dizziness; they make Egypt stagger in all that she does, as a drunkard staggers around in his vomit.

Here we see God deceiving people to the extent that they become absolutely foolish.

Even though I don't believe the Gospels teach that Jesus taught he was God, however this example is for those who believe that Jesus is God. Jesus admits that he was speaking figuratively all this time...

John 16:25
"Though I have been speaking figuratively (paroimia), a time is coming when I will no longer use this kind of language but will tell you plainly about my Father.

Why wasn't Jesus speaking in a normal and clear way all the time? Why did Jesus then go and say that he won't 'use this kind of language'?

Well, here we find out why...

Mark 4:10-12
When he was alone, the Twelve and the others around him asked him about the parables. 11He told them, "The secret of the kingdom of God has been given to you. But to those on the outside everything is said in parables 12so that," 'they may be ever seeing but never perceiving, and ever hearing but never understanding; otherwise they might turn and be forgiven!'

So here we see that Jesus was deceiving certain people by speaking in parables so that they won't (and God forbid!) REPENT AND BE FORGIVEN!

Also in...

2 Thessalonians 2:11
For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie.

So God will delude people so that they can believe lies?
MuttleyLaff:
Gbam.
Re: Jesus Forgets The Plot by Brunicekid(m): 6:32am On Jan 11, 2020
oaroloye:
MISHIGAS!



"TRINITY" IS YOUR BACKSLIDDEN HYPOCRITICAL OYINBO MASSAS MISINTERPRETATION OF THE GOSPEL.

The Trinity of The Bible is THE FATHER, THE LOGOS, and THE HOLY GHOST.

. GENESIS 1:1-3.

IN The Beginning God
created The Heaven and the Earth.
2. And the Earth was without form, and void;
and Darkness was upon the face of the deep.
And The Spirit of God moved
upon the face of the waters.
3. And God Said,

"Let there be light:
and there was light."

GOD'S NATIVE HABITAT HAS NEITHER SPACE NOR TIME, AS APPLIES TO OUR OWN UNIVERSE, AND THE SEVEN SHAMAYYIM (HEAVENS.

Therefore, God could not leave His Native Habitat- presumed to be "ETERNITY," because there is neither SPACE nor TIME for Him to move.

To create the Seven Heavens and Earth Universes, God created an exact duplicate of Himself, to operate in Space and Time.

. JOHN 1:1-14.

IN THE Beginning was The Word,
and The Word was with God,
and The Word was God.
2. The Same was
in The Beginning with God.
3. All things were made by Him;
and without Him
was not any thing made
that was made.
4. In Him was Life;
and The Life was The Light of Men.
5. And The Light shineth in Darkness;
and The Darkness comprehended It not.

6. There was a man sent from God,
whose name was John.
7. The same came for a witness,
to bear witness of The Light,
that all men through him might believe.
8. He was not That Light,
but was sent to Bear Witness of that Light.
9. That was The True Light,
Which lighteth every man
that cometh into The World.

10. He was in the World,
and the World was made by him,
and the World knew him not.
11. He came unto his own,
and his own received him not.
12. But as many as received him,
to them gave he Power
to become The Sons of God,
even to them
that believe on his Name:
13. Which were Born,
not of Blood,
nor of the Will of the Flesh,
nor of the Will of Man,
but of God.
14. And The Word was made flesh,
and dwelt among us,
[and we beheld his Glory,
The Glory as of
The only Begotten of The Father,]
full of Grace and Truth.

YOCHANNAN "THE BELOVED DISCIPLE" LIED AND SAID THAT LORD YESHUA WAS THE LOGOS.

This is the basis of the Deviant Christian beliefs that "LORD YESHUA IS GOD," is "ONE OF THREE GODS," is "THE ONLY GOD."

[See: BILLY GRAHAM, or KENNETH E. HAGIN (Trinitarianism).
WILLIAM BRANHAM or FRANKLIN HALL (Unitarianism).
BENNY HINN (Psycho-Nutjob).]

EVERYTHING that exists was once THE LOGOS (Recorded Word).

. JOHN 15:26-27.

26. "But when The Comforter is come,
Whom I will send unto you from The Father,
even The Spirit of Truth,
which proceedeth from The Father,
He shall testify of me:
27. "And ye also shall bear witness,
because ye have been with me
From The Beginning."

THE HOLY GHOST IS THE PRESENCE OF GOD THAT STREAMS DIRECTLY FROM THE FATHER.

Lord Yeshua was nothing more and nothing less than a MAN.

Otherwise, following him would be pointless.

We would either be required to be more than Human, or else less than Human.

. MARK 8:27-30.

27. And Jesus went out, and his Disciples,
into the towns of Caesarea Philippi:
and by the way he asked his Disciples,
Saying unto them,

"Whom do men say that I am?"

28. And they answered,

"John the Baptist; but some say, Elias;
and others, One of the Prophets."

29. And he Saith unto them,

"But whom say ye that I am?"

And Peter answereth
and saith unto him,

"Thou art The Christ."

30. And he charged them
that they should tell no man of him.

LORD YESHUA FORBADE HIS DISCIPLES TO TELL ANY MAN OF HIM.

People ignorant of The Bible think that Lord Yeshua tried to convince his fellow Israelites of his being The HaMishiach, or of being God- and was disbelieved, and executed as a Blasphemer.

That is not what happened:

. MATTHEW 16:13-20.

13. When Jesus came into
the coasts of Caesarea Philippi,
he asked his Disciples,
Saying,

"Whom do men say that I
The Son of Man am?"

14. And they said,

"Some say that thou art John the Baptist:
some, Elias; and others, Jeremias,
or one of the Prophets."

15. He Saith unto them,

"But whom say ye that I am?"

16. And Simon Peter answered and said,

"Thou art the Christ,
The Son of The Living God."

17. And Jesus answered
and Said unto him,

"Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona:
for flesh and blood
hath not revealed it unto thee,
but my Father Which is in Heaven.
18. "And I Say also unto thee,

'THAT THOU ART PETER,
AND UPON THIS ROCK
I WILL BUILD MY CHURCH;
AND THE GATES OF HELL
SHALL NOT PREVAIL AGAINST IT.'


19. "And I will give unto thee
The Keys of The Kingdom of Heaven:
and whatsoever thou shalt bind on Earth
shall be bound in Heaven:
and whatsoever thou shalt loose on Earth
shall be loosed in Heaven."

20. Then charged he his Disciples
that they should tell no man
that he was Jesus The Christ.

TRUE CHRISTIANITY CONSISTS OF PEOPLE WHO BELIEVE IN LORD YESHUA, BECAUSE GOD HAS TOLD THEM WHO HE IS.

. MATTHEW 11:25-30.

25. At that time
Jesus answered and Said,

"I thank thee,
O Father,
Lord of Heaven and Earth,
because thou hast hid
these things from the wise and prudent,
and hast revealed them unto Babes.
26. "Even so, Father:
for so it seemed good in Thy Sight.
27. "All things are delivered unto me
of my Father:
and no man knoweth The Son,
but The Father;
neither knoweth any man The Father,
save The Son,
and he to whomsoever The Son
will reveal Him.
28. "Come unto me,
all ye that labour
and are heavy laden,
and I will give you rest.
29. "Take my yoke upon you,
and learn of me;
for I am meek and lowly in heart:
and ye shall find rest unto your souls.
30 For my yoke is easy,
and my burden is light."

EVERY TRUE ISRAELITE HAD THE ABILITY TO HEAR THE VOICE OF GOD.

. DEUTERONOMY 30:19-20.

19. I call Heaven and Earth
to record this Day against you,
that I have set before you Life and Death,
Blessing and Cursing:
therefore choose Life,

That both thou and thy seed may live:

20. That thou mayest love The LORD thy God,

and that thou mayest obey His Voice,

and that thou mayest cleave unto Him:

for He is thy life, and the length of thy days:

that thou mayest dwell in the Land
which the LORD sware unto thy fathers,
to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob,
to give them.

ANYONE WHO COULD NOT HEAR THE VOICE OF GOD WAS NOT A TRUE ISRAELITE.

. NUMBERS 15:27-31.

27. "And if any Soul Sin through ignorance,
then he shall bring a she goat of the first year
for a sin offering.
28. "And the Priest shall make an Atonement
for the Soul that sinneth ignorantly,
when he sinneth by ignorance
before The LORD,
to make an Atonement for him;
and it shall be forgiven him.
29. "Ye shall have One Law for him
that sinneth through ignorance,
both for him that is born among The Children of Israel,
and for the Stranger that sojourneth among them.
30. "But the Soul that doeth ought presumptuously,
whether he be born in the Land, or a Stranger,
the same reproacheth the LORD;
and that soul shall be cut off from among his people.
31. "Because he hath Despised The Word of The LORD,
and hath Broken His Commandment,
that soul shall utterly be cut off;
his iniquity shall be upon him."

IT SHOULD NOT BE GOING TOO FAR TO SAY THAT THOSE WHO CANNOT HEAR THE VOICE OF GOD ARE NOT MERELY NOT QUALIFIED TO BE ISRAELITES: THEY ARE NO LONGER QUALIFIED TO BE CALLED "HUMAN BEINGS!"

If you cannot hear The Voice of GOD, what good are you?

. JOHN 6:41-45.

41. The Jews then murmured at him,
because he Said,

" I AM THE BREAD
WHICH CAME DOWN
FROM HEAVEN."


42. And they said,
"Is not this Jesus, the son of Joseph,
whose father and mother we know?
how is it then that he saith,

'I CAME DOWN FROM HEAVEN?' "

43. Jesus therefore answered
and Said unto them,

"Murmur not among yourselves.
44. "No man can come to me,
except the Father
Which hath sent me
draw him:
and I will raise him up
at The Last Day.
45. "It is written in the Prophets,

'AND THEY SHALL BE
ALL TAUGHT OF GOD.'


Every man therefore that hath heard,
and hath learned of The Father,
cometh unto me."

TRUE WORSHIPPERS OF GOD HIGHLY-FUNCTION ON AS MANY AS SEVEN LEVELS OF HEAVENLY WISDOM AND UNDERSTANDING.

. JOB 28:28.

28. "And unto Man He Said,

'BEHOLD, THE FEAR OF THE LORD,
THAT (IS) WISDOM;
AND TO DEPART FROM EVIL
(IS) UNDERSTANDING.' "


. PSALM 111:10.

10. The Fear of The LORD
is The Beginning of Wisdom:
a Good Understanding have all they
that do (His Commandments):
His Praise endureth for ever.

INSTEAD OF MOCKING WISDOM THAT IS ABOVE YOUR LEVEL OF UNDERSTANDING, YOU OUGHT TO BE ABASING YOURSELF BEFORE GOD, PLEADING WITH HIM TO OPEN YOUR EYES, THAT YOU MIGHT SEE!



WHO TOLD YOU THAT LORD YESHUA "BECAME DIVINE?"

That is you, adding your Massas' nonsense misinterpretations to The Bible, so that you can all laugh at It, and call It foolishness.

Lord Yeshua was as much the Son of God before his Baptism as after.

Atheists invent impossible attributes for God, and then hold up The Bible as foolish, for not depicting God as living up to the imaginary attributes they invented for him- namely: "OMNISCIENCE," "OMNIPOTENCE," and "OMNIPRESENCE."

In calling Lord Yeshua a "DIVINE BEING," you are surely committing the blasphemous error of presuming that Lord Yeshua knew everything about his Future, and about any alternatives to the course he was on.

Working with God is a journey of continual Enlightenment.

Many times, when you think that you know all there is to know about a situation, you are led into a new Truth, that opens up a different, more advanced viewpoint, that renders your previous Knowledge redundant.

For instance, MOSES learned to use the staff that God had anointed for His Work, but, at a point, God told Moses to use VOCAL COMMAND, instead of tapping on a rock with the staff. Moses went back on the Old Method, which God had declared obsolete.

God gave what he had Promised, but told Moses that his act of Unbelief had cost him that right to enter into The Promised Land he was to spend forty years leading his people to- the people whom God told him that He should summarily execute and be done with it.

Telling God that we know better than Him has never ended well.



WHO TOLD YOU THAT LORD YESHUA WAS PART OF A "TRINITY," AND DECIDED ANYTHING ABOUT HIS LIFE?

. MATTHEW 4:1-11.

THEN was Jesus led up of The Spirit
into the wilderness to be tempted of The Devil.
2. And when he had fasted forty days and forty nights,
he was afterward an hungred.
3. And when The Tempter came to him,
he said,

"If thou be the Son of God,
Command that these stones be made bread."

4. But he answered and Said,
"It is written,

'MAN SHALL NOT LIVE
BY BREAD ALONE,
BUT BY EVERY WORD
THAT PROCEEDETH
OUT OF THE MOUTH OF GOD.' "


5. Then The Devil taketh him up into the Holy City,
and setteth him on a pinnacle of the Temple,
6. And saith unto him,

"If thou be the Son of God,
cast thyself down:
for it is written,

'HE SHALL GIVE HIS ANGELS
CHARGE CONCERNING THEE:
AND IN THEIR HANDS
THEY SHALL BEAR THEE UP,
LEST AT ANY TIME
THOU DASH THY FOOT
AGAINST A STONE.' "


7. Jesus said unto him,

"It is written again,

'THOU SHALT NOT
TEMPT THE LORD THY GOD.' "


8. Again, The Devil taketh him up
into an exceeding high mountain,
and sheweth him all The Kingdoms of the World,
and The Glory of them;
9. And saith unto him,

"All these things will I give thee,
if thou wilt fall down and worship me."
10. Then saith Jesus unto him,

"Get thee hence, Satan:
for it is written,

'THOU SHALT WORSHIP
THE LORD THY GOD,
AND HIM ONLY
SHALT THOU SERVE.' "


11. Then The Devil leaveth him,
and, behold,
Angels came and ministered unto him.

EVERYTHING HE KNEW ABOUT HIS MISSION, HE HAD BEEN TOLD.

He was not a part of the Decision-Making Process!

. JOHN 12:42-50.

42. Nevertheless among the Chief Rulers also
many believed on him;
but because of the Pharisees
they did not confess him,
lest they should be put out of the Synagogue:
43. For they loved the Praise of Men
more than The Praise of God.

44. Jesus cried and Said,

“He that believeth on me,
believeth not on me,
but on Him that sent me.
45. “And he that seeth me
seeth Him that sent me.
46. “I am come a Light into the World,
that whosoever believeth on me
should not abide in Darkness.
47. “And if any man hear my Words,
and believe not,
I judge him not:
for I came not to judge the World,
but to save the World.
48. “He that rejecteth me,
and receiveth not my Words,
hath One that judgeth him:
The Word that I have Spoken,
the Same shall judge him in The Last Day.
49. “For I have not Spoken of myself;
but the Father which sent me,
He gave me a Commandment,
what I should Say,
and what I should Speak.
50. “And I know that
His Commandment is Life Everlasting:
whatsoever I Speak therefore,
even as The Father Said unto me,
so I Speak."

HE ONLY DID WHAT ANY MAN SERVING GOD COULD DO- HE DID NOTHING FROM HIMSELF.

. JOHN 14:1-12.

"LET not your heart be troubled:
ye believe in God,
believe also in me.
2. "In my Father's House
are many Mansions:
if it were not so,
I would have told you.
I go to prepare a place for you.
3. "And if I go and prepare a place for you,
I will come again,
and receive you unto myself;
that where I am,
there ye may be also.
4. "And whither I go ye know,
and The Way ye know."

5. Thomas saith unto him,

"Lord, we know not whither thou goest;
and how can we know The Way?"

6. Jesus Saith unto him,

"I am The Way, The Truth, and The Life:
no man cometh unto The Father,
but by me.
7. "If ye had known me,
ye should have Known my Father also:
and from henceforth ye Know Him,
and have seen Him."

8. Philip saith unto him,

"Lord, shew us the Father,
and it sufficeth us."

9. Jesus Saith unto him,

"Have I been so long time with you,
and yet hast thou not known me,
Philip?
He that hath seen me hath seen The Father;
and how sayest thou then,

'SHEW US THE FATHER?'

10. "Believest thou not
that I am in the Father,
and the Father in me?
The Words that I speak unto you
I speak not of myself:
but the Father that dwelleth in me,
he doeth The Works.
11. "Believe me
that I am in The Father,
and The Father in me:
or else believe me
for the very Works' sake.
12. "Verily, verily,
I Say unto you,

'HE THAT BELIEVETH ON ME,
THE WORKS THAT I DO
SHALL HE DO ALSO;'


and Greater (Works) than these shall he do;
because I go unto my Father.”

ATTAINING HOLINESS, WE WILL ACQUIRE EVERLASTING LIFE IF WE COMPLETE REHABILITATION OF THE TEN TALENTS.

. THE TEN TALENTS OF POWER.

(1) TOTAL RECALL.
(2) EXTRASENSORY PERCEPTION.
(3) TELEKINESIS.
(4) TELEPORTATION.
(5) TRANSLATION.
(6-10) EVERLASTING LIFE.


This is the Message of the whole Bible in general, and The Gospel in particular.

The application of these Powers is what God created us for.

Lord Yeshua sacrificed himself to make this possible for anyone who would distance themselves from complicity in his Death.



LORD YESHUA WAS NOT A GOD, NEITHER DID HE CLAIM TO BE A GOD.


[To be Continued.]
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Re: Jesus Forgets The Plot by MuttleyLaff: 6:45am On Jan 11, 2020
Mokason28:
I don’t have your time.... its crystal clear you have comprehension issues dats why you added me in ur mentions. undecided
I just smh for you. If you had spared enough time to read, it would have being crystal clear to you that I added you in the mention because I was corroborating the advice you gave to AntiChristian give his/her life to Christ. Now tell, who between the two of us, has the comprehension issues here, hmm?
Re: Jesus Forgets The Plot by Mokason28: 6:47am On Jan 11, 2020
MuttleyLaff:
I just smh for you. If you had spared enough time to read, it would have being crystal clear to you that I added you in the mention because I was corroborating the advice you gave to AntiChristian give his/her life to Christ. Now tell, who between the two of us, has the comprehension issues here, hmm?

Apologies

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Re: Jesus Forgets The Plot by MuttleyLaff: 6:52am On Jan 11, 2020
Mokason28:
Apologies
Accepted and thank you.

AntiChristian:
So here we see that Jesus was deceiving certain people by speaking in parables so that they won't (and God forbid!) REPENT AND BE FORGIVEN!
AntiChristian, if by definition, deception, means, deliberately cause someone to believe something that is not true, and especially for personal gain, then please, in detail, state clearly and leaving no room for confusion or doubt, what is not true that Jesus ever has said.

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Re: Jesus Forgets The Plot by AntiChristian: 7:51am On Jan 11, 2020
MuttleyLaff:
Accepted and thank you.

AntiChristian, if by definition, deception, means, deliberately cause someone to believe something that is not true, and especially for personal gain, then please, in detail, state clearly and leaving no room for confusion or doubt, what is not true that Jesus ever has said.

I think the deceit above is clear enough from the verses. No need to contact holy spirit to explain it. It has been proven God plots in the Bible.
Re: Jesus Forgets The Plot by MuttleyLaff: 8:30am On Jan 11, 2020
AntiChristian:
I think the deceit above is clear enough from the verses. No need to contact holy spirit to explain it. It has been proven God plots in the Bible.
I take it you're hard pressed to explain, exactly, what is not true that Jesus ever has said, lol.
Re: Jesus Forgets The Plot by AntiChristian: 10:27am On Jan 11, 2020
MuttleyLaff:
I take it you're hard pressed to explain, exactly, what is not true that Jesus ever has said, lol.

Falsehoods from Jesus Christ
When you are persecuted in one place [as you spread the gospel], flee to another. Truly I tell you, you will not finish going through the towns of Israel before the Son of Man comes. (Matthew 10:23)

Some who are standing here will not taste death before they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom (Matthew 16:28).

[All people on earth will] see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory . And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds. (Matthew 24:30–31)

This generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened (Matthew 24:34).

Jesus' Prayer was not answered:
[Jesus said,] I pray also for those who will believe in me through their message, that all of them may be one. . . . I have given them the glory that you gave me, that they may be one as we are one—I in them and you in me— so that they may be brought to complete unity. (John 17:20–23)
Re: Jesus Forgets The Plot by orisa37: 10:55am On Jan 11, 2020
It's a Plan. It's The Word of The SUPREME SPIRIT.


ADAM, EVE, CAIN, ABEL AND THE SERPENT WAS A PLAN FOR CREATION. THERE WASN'T ANY MYSTERY IN IT TO MAKE IT A PLOT.


THE CASE OF NOAH AND THE CRUISE SHIP WAS A PLAN FOR THE SALVATION OF THE RIGHTEOUS


IN A DIFFERENT WAY, JOB ALMOST SUFFERED THE SAME FATE AS JESUS. SATAN CAME UP TO GOD AS SON OF GOD AND WAS DELEGATED THE RESPONSIBILITY TO TORTURE JOB. SATAN PERFORMED THE TORTURE SO WICKEDLY TILL JOB EXPERIENCED GOD. JOB WASN'T TO COMPLETE CRUCIFIXION AND RESURRECTION. JESUS WAS COMING TO DO THAT. SO GOD RESCUED JOB FROM SATAN AND BLESSED HIM. WE WILL ALL SUFFER SICKNESS AND LOSSES OF ALL SORTS BUT BY FAITH AND TRUST IN GOD THROUGH PRAYERS, WE WILL LIVE FOR GOD.


JESUS CAME AS SON OF MAN. HE WAS BORN, CRUCIFIED, BURIED AND RESURRECTED TO BECOME SON OF GOD. THAT'S A PLAN FOR THE RIGHTEOUS.


CHRIST IS THE FAITH, THE HOPE, THE PEACE AND LOVE OF GOD. ANY ONE OF US THAT IS IN CHRIST WILL BE THE FAITH THE HOPE THE PEACE AND LOVE OF GOD. IN THE WORLD, WE WILL SUFFER TRIBULATIONS BUT WE SHOULD NOT WORRY BECAUSE CHRIST HAS CONQUERED THE WORLD.

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