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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by Nobody: 2:26pm On Jan 09, 2020
Institutionalized racism is a thing in America simplicita.

The white man has put in place a socio cultural and economic system to consolidate the ill gotten advantage it acquired and to ensure that the progeny of those whom he once enslaved never rise to a position where they're able to challenge or avenge the historical wrong that was done to them.

Irrespective of political isms, the traps are overt and covert and sometimes missed by foreigners especially African diaspora who are more excited about a perceived advantage they think they gain in their newly adopted country, however, the African American has learnt from experience to maintain a healthy dose of suspicion for anything white.

From slavery to KKK to Jim Crow, from Welfarism to Sangers' Planned Parenthood and from despicable race based horrific Government backed pseudo scientific experiments sans syphilis, tuberculosis and leprosy colonies to the so called war on drugs and other petty crimes that has enabled the white man to jail a quarter of the most virile and productive male members of the African American society, the African American has evolved to distrust anything the white man does and to respond with violence whenever the opportunity presents itself and I daresay rightly so, the white man's cowardice in the face of unbridled violence is beautiful to behold.

The African migrant as usual, is quick to point fingers at his cousin's violent propensities, his unwillingness to countenance anything white as having any good or merit; he forgets quite quickly that centuries of cohabitation with the white man has given the African American a unique insight into the nature of the white species of the human race.

The African American on the other hand, holds on to centuries old grudge in which he believes that the ancestors of his ignorant cousins sold his ancestors into slavery, he perceives in the African migrant an air of condescension which he believes stems from a feeling that 'my ancestors were superior to yours and were able to run faster from the white man'.

Thus a clash between the two becomes almost inevitable that the evil genius of the white man is quick to identify and exploit for his ultimate agenda I.e. the total subjugation of this subhuman species who dares aspire to personhood. The white man would rather elevate his dog than the black man - fact.

The conclusion is that the black race as usual has taken the easy path of hate and casting blames and aspersions; finding a reason to hate your neighbor is always easy, it is hard to find a reason to love and respect him.

Like the Joseph incidence in biblical lore (Joseph was sold into slavery by his jealous brethren), the migrant can learn so much from those who were there before him, whilst those who were there before have a great opportunity in the migrant to reconnect with what they once lost.

This is a great opportunity to consolidate our knowledge and experiences, take stock of what we did wrong and how easily we allowed other races to subjugate and enslave us and to forge a common path forward.

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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by unbitchable(m): 2:26pm On Jan 09, 2020
We must take into cognisance that they're coming from a tough history of being called slaves to being referred as African Americans. it was a completely tougher evolution of social phase than was experienced in African continent.

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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by etrange: 2:27pm On Jan 09, 2020
codemaniacs:


the OP Okpa042 may not be a Nigerian, its a completely rubbish article based on stereotypes and putting wh:yte people in a good light but commenters like smartypants and maybe Destroyerofyeeb have corrected him.

what Destroyerofyeeb, Okpa042 and most Nigerians don't understand is if you have your own country or a population in a place with large amount of natural resources you'll still be okay... AA don't have their own country, they don't own large amount of natural resources, they don't own the major companies in U.S which means they wouldn't get employed in a lot of places e.t.c...

most Africans have a better foundation than most AA.




I see.
Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by vRendoh(m): 2:27pm On Jan 09, 2020
Huawei101:
They have forgotten that their fore father's were sold as slave.

They remember very well your grand fathers sold their brothers and sisters ( their fathers and mothers ) into slavery for cheap price. That is the story they knew. Your story here blames the white man (for buying the products?).
The experience is sad. We must tell the actual story and apologise.
Our forefathers sold their brother's and sisters into slavery !

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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by jimyjames(m): 2:30pm On Jan 09, 2020
DexterousOne:


Why you wan find trouble like this na


Am a gentle man I just want khiaa to enlighten me about these things, I haven't been to the US and I have no idea about what happens there cry

Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by iammolise(m): 2:30pm On Jan 09, 2020
jamalnation:
pot calling pot black
That's the sum of it all

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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by zomby(m): 2:30pm On Jan 09, 2020
Okpa042:
There is a huge chasm between African-Americans and African immigrants in the United States. That chasm has widened over the years. It has caused deep animosity between many African-Americans and their African immigrant cousins.

The chasm has prevented African-Americans from participating in the current economic boom in Africa and it has shut many African immigrants out of opportunities for economic advancement here in the United States.

The problem stems from deep misconceptions, sometimes fueled by the U.S. media. Astonishingly, many African-Americans believe that Africans are backward and primitive. Some make crude jokes about Africans or do not acknowledge the great contribution Africa has made to the world.

For their part, many African immigrants buy into the erroneous notion that African-Americans are lazy and violent.

They do not appreciate the great sacrifice African-Americans made, through advocating for their civil rights, to lay the foundation for Africans to be able to come to the United States and live in a country where both blacks and whites have equal rights, at least in theory if not always in practice.

The different experiences of the two groups

To understand the deep division that exists between African Americans and Africans, one first has to examine the background of the two groups.

Before migrating to the United States, most Africans have typically dealt with white Americans who went to Africa as Peace Corps volunteers, missionaries, doctors or teachers. These Americans acted as mentors and guardians to the Africans and developed positive relationships with them.

When they come to the United States, it has been my experience that Africans can easily identify with white Americans because they understand each other. Before migrating to the United States, the majority of Africans have had little to no direct negative experiences with whites. They simply do not hate them.

On the other hand, most African-Americans grew up in black neighborhoods where they learned from older generations the history of slavery and the cruelty it inflicted on the black race. Furthermore, they have usually experienced firsthand and in their communities the legacies of racism that still exist in the United States.

With this background, many African-Americans are not generally predisposed to trust white Americans, and they look down on those African immigrants who express respect or admiration for white Americans.

How they react to racism and discrimination

A fundamental difference between African Americans and African immigrants is the way they react to racism and discrimination.

African Americans usually see racism as the main cause of poverty among their people. They are also quick to point out instances of perceived racism, even in circumstances where it is ambiguous, unclear or more complex than simple racial bigotry or discrimination.

A classic example is the currently large African-American population in prison. Most African-Americans feel that the only reason there are so many African Americans incarcerated is their race. They blame police discrimination and lawmakers who make laws weighted to punish blacks.

For Africans, after suffering many years in civil wars, military coups and other problems, they are happy to be in a country that offers them freedom. They are ready to integrate into the American culture without getting involved in the lingering racial conflicts. They do not typically get involved in the ongoing civil rights struggle – and that has angered many African-Americans.

How they react to adversity

Perhaps the greatest difference I have seen between African immigrants and African-Americans is how they react to adversity.

Most African immigrants to the United States came here for economic advancement. They do not have any political agenda. They are willing to take any job and do not blame the “system” when they fail in their endeavors.

Most African immigrants to the United States often live in mixed neighborhoods instead of black neighborhoods and they easily integrate. African immigrants know who they are. They are not easily offended when someone tries to put them down. They know where they come from and why they are here.

For African-Americans, there is often a tendency to blame slavery for most of the problems they face today. For instance, when African American students fail in school, some educators blame slavery and do not look for other factors.

However, the time has come for African Americans to realize that while racism still persists, the best thing they can do for their children is to teach them to take full responsibility for their actions. Fathers need to take care of their children and young women need to stay in school instead of having children.

It is only when black people, be they from Africa or America, unite to instill discipline and respect for each other that the chasm that has divided us will narrow. Then we can finally work together to remove poverty from our people both here in the United States and Africa.

Source: https://www.theglobalist.com/african-americans-african-immigrants-differ/

Not all african Americans think this way...

The main issue btw african American and stupiid africans is:
1. When you africans leave your shitthole countries and have the audacity to criticize the african Americans in their country.
2. When you africans think you’re better than african Americans
3. When you give birth to your african baby in American, return to your shitthole countries and then send the child back to America after 18 years to simply milk all the things (you did not work for) American citizens work hard/ pay taxes for
4. When you leave your shitthole countries to simply milk the American system, either by your fraudulent activities or by collecting govtmnt money that you do not deserve.
5. When you open your goro infested mouth to castigate the african Americans without taking a time out to completely understand their various backgrounds and history.
6. When you leave your no light shitthole countries to complain about the American system.
7. When you finally obtained your blue passport (become a voter) without understanding that a few african Americans died many years ago fighting for the rights to vote.

Can you imagine, a bunch of clowns running to Nigeria to milk our system and also criticize everything about Nigerians?
Do you guys remember how the Ghanaians were treated in Nigeria many years ago?

Africans should simply shut the fuccck up, learn to understand the history of african Americans and stop looking down at them....For sure, some of these people (African Americans) are more decent by far than average voodoo mugger Africans

Before you advise the african Americans you should first advise the area boys all around Nigeria and also stop collecting bags of rice to vote for those leaders that continue to sink your shitthole countries

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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by salford1: 2:31pm On Jan 09, 2020
GogobiriLalas:
Institutionalized racism is a thing in America simplicita.

The white man has put in place a socio cultural and economic system to consolidate the ill gotten advantage it acquired and to ensure that the progeny of those whom he once enslaved never rise to a position where they're able to challenge or avenge the historical wrong that was done to them.

Irrespective of political isms, the traps are overt and covert and sometimes missed by foreigners especially African diaspora who are more excited about a perceived advantage they think they gain in their newly adopted country, however, the African American has learnt from experience to maintain a healthy dose of suspicion for anything white.

From slavery to KKK to Jim Crow, from Welfarism to Sangers' Planned Parenthood and from despicable race based horrific Government backed pseudo scientific experiments sans syphilis, tuberculosis and leprosy colonies to the so called war on drugs and other petty crimes that has enabled the white man to jail a quarter of the most virile and productive male members of the African American society, the African American has evolved to distrust anything the white man does and to respond with violence whenever the opportunity presents itself and I daresay rightly so, the white man's cowardice in the face of unbridled violence is beautiful to behold.

The African migrant as usual, is quick to point fingers at his cousin's violent propensities, his unwillingness to countenance anything white as having any good or merit; he forgets quite quickly that centuries of cohabitation with the white man has given the African American a unique insight into the nature of the white species of the human race.

The African American on the other hand, holds on to centuries old grudge in which he believes that the ancestors of his ignorant cousins sold his ancestors into slavery, he perceives in the African migrant an air of condescension which he believes stems from a feeling that 'my ancestors were superior to yours and were able to run faster from the white man'.

Thus a clash between the two becomes almost inevitable that the evil genius of the white man is quick to identify and exploit for his ultimate agenda I.e. the total subjugation of this subhuman species who dares aspire to personhood. The white man would rather elevate his dog than the black man - fact.

The conclusion is that the black race as usual has taken the easy path of hate and casting blames and aspersions; finding a reason to hate your neighbor is always easy, it is hard to find a reason to love and respect him.

Like the Joseph incidence in biblical lore (Joseph was sold into slavery by his jealous brethren), the migrant can learn so much from those who were there before him, whilst those who were there before have a great opportunity in the migrant to reconnect with what they once lost.

This is a great opportunity to consolidate our knowledge and experiences, take stock of what we did wrong and how easily we allowed other races to subjugate and enslave us and to forge a common path forward.
Brilliant.

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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by WorWorBoy: 2:33pm On Jan 09, 2020
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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by codemaniacs: 2:33pm On Jan 09, 2020
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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by liveyourlife007(m): 2:34pm On Jan 09, 2020
I'm learning. Sure im joining this race b4 d end of this year
Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by DexterousOne(m): 2:35pm On Jan 09, 2020
codemaniacs:


no such thing as "went through"... they are still going through it but there are many more wealthy AA's now than before..

Exactly

Present continuous tense

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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by salford1: 2:35pm On Jan 09, 2020
vRendoh:


They remember very well your grand fathers sold their brothers and sisters ( their fathers and mothers ) into slavery for cheap price. That is the story they knew. Your story here blames the white man (for buying the products?).
The experience is sad. We must tell the actual story and apologise.
Our forefathers sold their brother's and sisters into slavery !
It's one of the reasons Asians disrespect black people generally. Asians can't come to terms why brothers would help cooperate with the whiteman and sell their own brothers/sisters to slavery. Asians care less if you are black African or Black American. The success of the transatlantic slave trade effectively placed Black people at the bottom of the race heirachy.
The same shyte is still going on in sub-saharan Africa. The politicians are now the new slave masters.

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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by DexterousOne(m): 2:36pm On Jan 09, 2020
salford1:



The same thing happening among African Americans are exactly the same thing happening in Canada with first Nation (aboriginal) people.
The Aboriginal people in Canada are still suffering the effect from years and centuries of oppression.

You get it

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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by DexterousOne(m): 2:36pm On Jan 09, 2020
salford1:

It's one of the reasons Asians disrespect black people generally. Asians can't come to terms why people brothers would help sell their own brothers/sisters to slavery. Asians care less if you are black African or Black American. The transatlantic slave trade effectively placed Africans at the bottom of the race heirachy.
The same shyte is still going on in sub-saharan Africa. The politicians are now the new slave masters.

Truth

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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by Obcglobal(m): 2:37pm On Jan 09, 2020
A real words of wisdom and an eye opener!!! May all black race live in peace and harmony for destiny has made our history to be so forever!!! One love my lovely Africa

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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by zomby(m): 2:38pm On Jan 09, 2020
WorWorBoy:
And yet it was Nigerians who commit the biggest fraud in u.s.history lol. Baby mama and baby daddy is also a thing here in Nigeria. Don't judge others so that you won't be judged.
You know most Africans see Nigerians as a disgrace to the continent. undecided

Good point!
I don’t understand how Nigerians that carry shitt around on a regular can also accuse others of not taking shower...

We need to leave african Americans alone, look in the mirror and discover why our country has been upside down for the past 35 years...

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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by Jaqenhghar: 2:40pm On Jan 09, 2020
Destroyerofyeeb:
Most of these African Americans are also very intolerant and condescend Africans with their nasty, ignorant, close minded and rude lifestyle , that's why Africans tend to isolate them and flow more with Latinos, Asians, white and even afro carribeans. They are mentally damaged people always quick to attach race to every issue which in my opinion I think is gonna really limit their potentials. Nigerians are their no1 enemies, not surprised though every insecure black person has issues with Nigerians because of how over self-confident and loud we are from ghana to satafrika grin
Actually being loud and wanting to be noticed is a sign of of some deep insecurities

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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by DarkJeddi(m): 2:41pm On Jan 09, 2020
sweerychick:
True, but I think is because of slavery..

They felt that Africans sold them into slavery
Yeah,they blame everyone for their woes except themselves..

Africans sold them into slavery and the white man,subjugates them..

It's always somebody else's fault..

African Americans are lousy,obnoxious humans..

Sorry to say,but that is their Characteristics..

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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by Jaqenhghar: 2:41pm On Jan 09, 2020
ogbuefi677:
The conception the African immigrant has about the African-American is largely true.
Let's start from how many of them finish college?
The typical African-American woman with a baby is likely a babymama.
Which group tops d drug dealing and use chart in America?
Which group tops the guns/knife crimes in America?
You are speaking out yo ass. If you call them lazy, the hard working Africans we can see the evidence of the hard work in the way they manage Africa.

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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by Fulmigati: 2:41pm On Jan 09, 2020
African Americans are indeed close-minded. But one thing I like about them is that they are a more militant people. They don't look at whites with the same wide-eyed admiration that Africans do. Infact they hate the whites. grin

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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by codemaniacs: 2:41pm On Jan 09, 2020
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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by Destroyerofyeeb: 2:42pm On Jan 09, 2020
Nah, it's called being comfortable in your self worth.
Jaqenhghar:

Actually being loud and wanting to be noticed is a sign of of some deep insecurities

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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by Jaqenhghar: 2:42pm On Jan 09, 2020
DarkJeddi:
Yeah,they blame everyone for their woes except themselves..

Africans sold them into slavery and the white man,subjugates them..

It's always somebody else's fault..
..and Africans dont blame anyone shey. Your country is over 50 years old with not one stretch of good road anywhere in that dump. You people are still blaming white people and leaders

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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by Destroyerofyeeb: 2:43pm On Jan 09, 2020
So we should hate whites too because they hate whites?
Fulmigati:
African Americans are indeed close-minded. But one thing I like about them is that they are a more militant people. They don't look at whites with the same wide-eyed admiration that Africans do. Infact they hate the whites. grin

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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by Jaqenhghar: 2:43pm On Jan 09, 2020
Destroyerofyeeb:
Nah, it's called being comfortable in your self worth.
Theu say empty vessels make the loudest niose. Go figure

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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by theDEVILisHERE: 2:43pm On Jan 09, 2020
Stevecovey:
@op okpa042, the african americans suffered a deep emotional wound. Its still a fresh wound. Their grandparents are still alive who fought evil jim crow & segregation laws with the civil rights movement in the 60's. Those stories are still repeated in their homes.

That generation will have to completely die out and more time pass before a large portion of the population 'forget' & release themselves from the sense of victimhood.

I believe africans should look on that whole situation with compassion and not brash judgement. Its not so easy to overcome a mental conditioning of being inferior & unworthy. Your actions will always follow that thought pattern.

Africans went through and are still going through worse, yes WORSE
of course done to them by their coon black leaders
Which makes their situation more complicated and horrible, no where and no one to run to

There is no kind of suffering they went through that didn't take place in Africa and even worse

Sad part of Africa situation is that it is still going on

No excuse on their part

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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by Destroyerofyeeb: 2:44pm On Jan 09, 2020
I don't expect much from an insecure kneegrow anyway. If Nigerians are so empty why are akatas always worried about Nigerians replacing their lazy ass in America like the ADOS miscreants always whine about? We are go-getters deal with it and stop hating. Have a good life.
Jaqenhghar:
Theu say empty vessels make the loudest niose. Go figure

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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by DarkJeddi(m): 2:45pm On Jan 09, 2020
nlPoster:


Let me ask though, do African immigrants actually fail in their endeavors?
Most don't..

When you crossed seven seas and seven lands to get to your destination,failure is not an option..

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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by IJEYdiamond(f): 2:45pm On Jan 09, 2020
Destroyerofyeeb:
Most of these African Americans are also very intolerant and condescend Africans with their nasty, ignorant, close minded and rude lifestyle , that's why Africans tend to isolate them and flow more with Latinos, Asians, white and even afro carribeans. They are mentally damaged people always quick to attach race to every issue which in my opinion I think is gonna really limit their potentials. Nigerians are their no1 enemies, not surprised though every insecure black person has issues with Nigerians because of how over self-confident and loud we are from ghana to satafrika grin

No be lie you talk......

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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by codemaniacs: 2:45pm On Jan 09, 2020
zz

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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by tribalmall: 2:46pm On Jan 09, 2020
Wrong to 3.Latinos top drug dealing black just make the loudest noiss, same with gang Violence m baby mama which is a norm m not a vice to them.

ogbuefi677:
The conception the African immigrant has about the African-American is largely true.
Let's start from how many of them finish college?
The typical African-American woman with a baby is likely a babymama.
Which group tops d drug dealing and use chart in America?
Which group tops the guns/knife crimes in America?

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