livebyday:
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I don't think you have the ability to reason in clear objective terms

Just read the nonsense you wrote. This is absolute trash and it's amazing you typed this rubbish

That's their way.

KingAzubuike:

Still, it's a small casualty compared to the innocent lives the us have taken over the years in the name of fighting terrorism

Another terrorist sympathizer spotted, I believe you wouldn't have posted this same insensitive comment if a relative of yours is among them?

Befii:
Such a lame assessment. Did US also lack the technical know how wen they bombed Iranian passenger blame in 1988. US later compensated Iran after judgement passed in favour of Iran at the International court of Justice. My brother u need to read history, even Israeli army once bombed an Egyptian passenger plane for the same reason Iran shot down dis blame and similar incident was orchestrated by the soviet union when they shot down a South korean airliner. So what r u saying, it just human error and if you want to blame someone, blame the poor decision made by President Trump, that is dc reason we are here right now.

Provocation is often a mitigating factor in sentencing. It rarely serves as a legal defense, meaning it does not stop the defendant from being guilty of the crime. It may however, lead to a lesser punishment.

sotall:
Just imagine!

I am really shocked that this is true.

Which kain yeye mistake be that?

You only have ballistic missiles now and you are mis-firing, what about when you now have nuclear weapons?

Things like this is inevitable,at a time when tension is high and they are probably expecting retaliatory strike from the united snakes of america,and according to them,it the plane was turned towards one of iran military installations,not iran fault,blame the united snake of america who started this whole shii

gr8keeng:
that is why no one should pray for war.... there was a heightened tension in the region and the Iranians mistook the plane for an aggressor so they shot it down, now innocent lives are gone..... both sides are guilty of this.

..... I feel Iran are to be blamed fully for this... it speaks volume of their defense system,,. and to think of the fact that they 've bin denying it for days.

KingAzubuike:

That's Obama alone, what about bush, Clinton, bush snr, ronald and Harry Truman
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https://www.pri.org/stories/if-obama-apologized-1-civilian-drone-victim-every-day-it-would-take-him-3-years

So your point is that this act of terrorism by Iran on its citizens is justified or what? Oh boy, now I have another reason to believe Nigeria as a nation can never leave the quagmire it has been plunged into, cos of individuals like you!

KingAzubuike:

Still, it's a small casualty compared to the innocent lives the us have taken over the years in the name of fighting terrorism

Lol, they're coming for you.
When I first saw this post, I first remembered your post countering the possibility.
For me, from the beginning it was without a doubt, the Iranians. That's just the way of war.
Plane crashes are the rarest types of accident.
You have a 1 in 103 chance of being killed in a car accident once you step into a moving car.
But you have a 1 in 5 million chance of being killed in a plane crash.
Which means a plane crash happening in Iran who is at war is 1 in million flights most likely to happen.
Remember, I predicted they wouldn't want to release the black box.
Anyways we can rest now it it's been cleared.
Do you write?
Send me an email.
@barlowa99@gmail.com
I have other topics that I'd like to discuss with you ranging from politics to society to patriarchy in Africa.

philip0906:

Which human lives are you saying is sacrosanct?

Tell that to Iran who blew it's citizens away.

America is fighting for EVERY single American. Id it involves taking the lives of citizens of other countries, then it is totally valid.

Iran on the other hand claiming to defend her citizens, is killing her citizens in their droves.

So tell that bull to Iran.

Which human life isn't sacrosanct? If u say it is valid for America to take d lives of non combatants, then y d hoopla when u accuse Iran of doing d same? Apart from this incident which was internationally acknowledged to be an error, how did Iran kill its citizens in droves?

lexy2014:


Which human life isn't sacrosanct? If u say it is valid for America to take d lives of non combatants, then y d hoopla when u accuse Iran of doing d same? Apart from this incident which was internationally acknowledged to be an error, how did Iran kill its citizens in droves?

The lives of terrorists isn't sacrosanct. If civilians find themselves in the territory of terrorists, well...Keeping the world safe is more important.

Your comprehension level is poor. America killed terrorists and people other than it's citizens.

Iran killed zero Americans in their revenge quest but rather annihilated her own citizens.

Good you admit it was an error. Now, tell your terrorist Iran to stay away from from bitting more than it can chew, else it will blow it's citizens away, in error...Same way it blew over 100 of her citizens into hell.

That's more reason iran can never ever own a nuclear weapons. One day they will blow-up the world and say it's a mistake. GOD BLESS BIAFRA THE LAND OF RISING SUN , GOD BLESS THE HOLY LAND OF ISRAEL AND GOD BLESS AMERICA IN GOD WE TRUST

lexy2014:


That means d US are also terrorists for shooting down an Iranian passenger plane in 1988 and for killing hundreds of innocent souls in Iraq and Afghanistan which it refers to as collateral damage


https://edition.cnn.com/2020/01/10/middleeast/iran-air-flight-655-us-military-intl-hnk/index.html

The circumstances are not the same. If you read very carefully, you know the plane the US shot was asked to identify itself twice ( everyone acknowledged this ) but the pilot was either arrogant and chose to ignore the seriousness of the warning. That was 30 years old and such error can not be excused again due the array of IT available now .

Bbbwings:
US is never a culprit

Can u imagine

awoo47:
so abt 30 Iranian die fr funeral
nw anoda 150.
Dey shld keep shouting death to America
hw ironic

Lol, chanting death to America and Iranians are dying in hundreds. Both parties have their fair share of blames though

Malawian:

It would have been forgivable if the they fired that missile in error (thinking the occupants of that plane were westerners). Make no mistakes, they fired that missile intentionally and they also know the manifest of that plane. Now this is what i believe they tried to achieve...

After the first salvo of missiles into US army bases without reply, There were reports in the media that Iran has launched a "second wave" of missile attacks. They were hoping to draw a response from the US missile batteries stationed in Iraq. They wanted to blame the US as being the ones who shot down the Airline.

Just look at the manifest. Iranians together with US allied nationals, effectively pitting Donald Trump against his allies, while giving Iranians something to make noise with for some time.

Yes, it remains a possibility that they crashed the plane thinking America would retaliate with air strikes after they attacked US-Iraqi base, so they could frame it on the US that they caused the crash. But guess what? There was a top Nuclear Physicists on that plane. Maybe they wanted him dead too, who knows? But it was an intentional strike to blow that plane.

Minjim:


The circumstances are not the same. If you read very carefully, you know the plane the US shot was asked to identify itself twice ( everyone acknowledged this ) but the pilot was either arrogant and chose to ignore the seriousness of the warning. That was 30 years old and such error can not be excused again due the array of IT available now .

Can u hear Urself.. Wat u just said.. does it make sense 2 u? Let d families of d deceased hear this n v wat they would do 2 u.. Wat abt d 60 civilians (+ women n children) d US killed in a drone strike 3 days ago in an airstrike that killed a Taliban leader in Afghanistan.. US has committed so many war crimes n they r getting away with it.. a day will come when they will b punished 4 all their misdeeds by emerging World powers..

Xmen149:


you are right

the flight was moving from Iran out ..not out to Iran the transposer was on (military flights go stealth if no clearance).

military defense system detect treat and hit alarm,the controller confirms and initiate to execute(as a last minute check,..)

again flights have been in and out of that airport and zone for more than an hour before the hit

Iran knows something we don't..they better start talking mofo that can't handle missile but hunting for nuclear war devices..I seriously smell Russia in all this

No passenger airline flight can leave without government (airport authority) approval. They approved and flagged that plane to fly, that the airspace was safe to fly, then they intentionally shot it down moments after. It was sordid wickedness, plain and simple.

abeeee:
The United States has killed more innocent people in drone strikes and areal bombardment than Any country will........ They finished lives in Afghanistan.....iraq during operation enduring freedom...... That's not worse...... They finished people in Cambodia and Vietnam and still lost the war......


And 21st century children are here saying rubbish.......

The US was wrong in those cases you listed, as Iran is wrong in this case. This case is even worse, as the so called military responsible for the protection of the life of its citizens are the one destroying it. I can't comprehend how any sane individual will justify this massacre!

Staro:
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I even understand that the 60 Canadian citizens who died are actually Iranians
by birth who were granted Canadian citizenship.

Meaning that nearly 150 Iranians have just been wasted due to its military's incompetence.

And this is the same country that wants a Nuclear Weapon.

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But the US which has over 6000 nuclear warheads has also 'mistakenly' shot down a passenger jet before, killing over 200 innocent travellers. Nobody holy pass, nobody mumu pass!

F117nighthawk:
This act and accident has truly shows the mind, heart and soul of IRAN as a country and also the mindset of their leaders,my comment here will be a hard one but truth need to be told, the religion they practice in that country is DEVILISH And INHUMAN, it's a decoy for the devil to perpetuate and spread evil into the world

Hateful beast what have religion got to do with an accident? The same USA also also made same mistake in 1988 so we should blame Christianity for that? So people are so beyond redemption.

philip0906:

The lives of terrorists isn't sacrosanct. If civilians find themselves in the territory of terrorists, well...Keeping the world safe is more important.

Your comprehension level is poor. America killed terrorists and people other than it's citizens.

Iran killed zero Americans in their revenge quest but rather annihilated her own citizens.

Good you admit it was an error. Now, tell your terrorist Iran to stay away from from bitting more than it can chew, else it will blow it's citizens away, in error...Same way it blew over 100 of her citizens into hell.

Good. So if d lives of terrorists aren't sacrosanct, that means d lives of innocent noncombatants are sacrosanct irrespective of whether they find themselves in "terrorist territory" or not. So d onus is on d US to protect d lives of these innocent lives in its so called quest to make d world a safer place. If it kills innocent civilians, then it hasn't made d world safer. It has made more dangerous for innocent people to live in.

Like I noted and even as d US noted, Iran made an error. How is that annihilation? Can u provide any evidence of Iran "annihilating" its citizens? Or has d meaning of word "annihilate" changed?

Iran isn't my Iran same way d US isn't your US. Whether or not it is biting more than it can chew, isn't part of d discussion as noted earlier.

Ryocaj:

Can u hear Urself.. Wat u just said.. does it make sense 2 u? Let d families of d deceased hear this n v wat they would do 2 u.. Wat abt d 60 civilians (+ women n children) d US killed in a drone strike 3 days ago in an airstrike that killed a Taliban leader in Afghanistan.. US has committed so many war crimes n they r getting away with it.. a day will come when they will b punished 4 all their misdeeds by emerging World powers..

It is clear that the forum is full with children, they argue like blind people.

Horus:
At least Iran is taking responsibility for it. Many other countries would and have kept silent, denied or blamed others if they would have done it

Don't be deceived, the Iranians too denied this for days.

Minjim:


The circumstances are not the same. If you read very carefully, you know the plane the US shot was asked to identify itself twice ( everyone acknowledged this ) but the pilot was either arrogant and chose to ignore the seriousness of the warning. That was 30 years old and such error can not be excused again due the array of IT available now .

If u read very carefully, u will know that d US compensated Iran with over $100m for d incident. If it was as straightforward as u say it was, y the compensation?

obailala:
But the US which has over 6000 nuclear warheads has also 'mistakenly' shot down a passenger jet before, killing over 200 innocent travellers. Nobody holy pass, nobody mumu pass!

Correcto

Openbusiness:

Yes, it remains a possibility that they crashed the plane thinking America would retaliate with air strikes after they attacked US-Iraqi base, so they could frame it on the US that they caused the crash. But guess what? There was a top Nuclear Physicists on that plane. Maybe they wanted him dead too, who knows? But it was an intentional strike to blow that plane.

Even US admitte that it was Mistake.But you are here formulating theories out of your axxxxx.

lexy2014:


If u read very carefully, u will know that d US compensated Iran with over $100m for d incident. If it was as straightforward as u say it was, y the compensation?

And did Iran say that they will not compensate the families of the victims?

Ryocaj:

Can u hear Urself.. Wat u just said.. does it make sense 2 u? Let d families of d deceased hear this n v wat they would do 2 u.. Wat abt d 60 civilians (+ women n children) d US killed in a drone strike 3 days ago in an airstrike that killed a Taliban leader in Afghanistan.. US has committed so many war crimes n they r getting away with it.. a day will come when they will b punished 4 all their misdeeds by emerging World powers..

You are being sentimental.
Was that the first time a passenger has been shot down?
The action was dine in error and was highly regretted and the US promptly took all responsibilities.
But Iran vehemently denied this , they only came out when they noticed they've been caught pants down.

What you're saying is that since the US had committed the error, Iran should do same too even with the array of technology available to avoid it.
That certainly made sense, but only to you

lexy2014:


If u read very carefully, u will know that d US compensated Iran with over $100m for d incident. If it was as straightforward as u say it was, y the compensation?

The US wants to accept responsibility that was why.
They didn't denied it. They acknowledged from the onset that the error was highly regretted.
But 30 years later, with measure and technology to avoid such some terrorist nation still want us to accept it.
Just imagine if Iran has nuclear weapons and it was fired in error too. Since they are the type that don't learn and always want to repeat errors

lexy2014:


Good. So if d lives of terrorists aren't sacrosanct, that means d lives of innocent noncombatants are sacrosanct irrespective of whether they find themselves in "terrorist territory" or not. So d onus is on d US to protect d lives of these innocent lives in its so called quest to make d world a safer place. If it kills innocent civilians, then it hasn't made d world safer. It has made more dangerous for innocent people to live in.

Like I noted and even as d US noted, Iran made an error. How is that annihilation? Can u provide any evidence of Iran "annihilating" its citizens? Or has d meaning of word "annihilate" changed?

Iran isn't my Iran same way d US isn't your US. Whether or not it is biting more than it can chew, isn't part of d discussion as noted earlier.

You joker! America saying Iran made an error, is simply an indictment on the Iranian military and the more reason they wouldn't allow them to access nuclear weapons.

In war and naking the world safe, people will die. Stop trying to be clever by half. You terrorist, before Isis was cut into pieces, people died. In confining terrorists to certain parts of the world and reducing their ability to inflict severe damage, people will die.

The USA is my USA. They are the police of the world and have done a good job in keeping the world safe, else terrorists like Iran, Osama, Isis, Taliban, Hezbollah would have been in every country causing severe damage more than what we have today.

Tulsaguy:



I watched the analysis of the video evidence taken from GPS. They shot it down INTENTIONALLY. Very stupid Islamic fundamentalists.

Soleimoni life cost 190 Iranians life. 140 were Iranians in the ill fated plane. Some 60s have dual citizenship. About 50 died of stamped during his burial, they had to postpone it.

Religion of chaos. Muslims world over should reflect on their faith.

That video was not taken from satellite, have you ever seen a satellite video before?

That's amateur video from people on ground that where making videos at that moment plus the ones from cctv

valo25:


You are simply a pathetic Muslim pro terrorist. How can u say u don't know when Saudi oil facilities was hit by Iran backed terrorist.?

How can u say you don't know the countess times Iran backed hezbolla constantly fires at Israel....

You are big twister of world event

I didn't know he's a lair, I was wasting my time arguing with him.

Okemmuo1:


I don't have your time and I won't open my laptop because of this,

Iran is responsible for the missile attack on Saudi oil facility, Iran denied it, pro Iranian group claimed responsibility but the experts that investigated it said Iran is responsible for the attack, that mere terrorist couldn't carry out such sophisticated attack.

I should tell you groups that always attack Israel with missiles, including mortars and rockets?

In fact I no longer have your time

Do u need to open ur laptop because of this? I thought u are vast in international politics? Can't u talk about d situation from ur head? By d way, what did u type with? Ur laptop or your phone?

Was d outcome of d investigation u say u read conclusive or was it circumstantial? According to Wikipedia, "The United States stated it would provide evidence at the 2019 United Nations General Assembly that the attack involved cruise missiles from Iran."

We are in 2020. Has d US provided d evidence?

D same Wikipedia says:

"In December 2019, the UN said that its investigation was not able to confirm the Saudi official claim that the weapons used in the attack are of Iranian origin".

Yes pls. Tell me "d groups that always attack Israel with missiles, including mortars and rockets". Aren't u an expert in international politics?