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Re: FG Declares Operation Amotekun Illegal by CharlotteFlair: 7:23am On Jan 15, 2020 |
unbitchable:Fool! Hiss. Is there no sniper in your area? Idiots who licked buhari's arse for 5years thinking they have a messiah and friend. Sonabitch! Afonjazee arindin omo ale omo iyadagbe! Spineless mofo! You have been trolling me since 3am, you attention seeking idiota!!! Eat shii today you must, because a million flies can't be wrong! Stupid insecure whiny little sissy! I hate effiminate men and they disgust me! Oboy you are fvcking disgusting! I spit on your Yoruba mooslim cone head grave!! RIP! 3 Likes |
Re: FG Declares Operation Amotekun Illegal by wirinet(m): 7:29am On Jan 15, 2020 |
DexterousOne:I am getting tired of educating people who have learning difficulties. UK or any other country can expelled foreigners from their country. UK can decide to expel all EU citizens if a Brexit deal is not reached. What will discourage UK from taking such action is the reciprocal action by EU, who will in turn expel all UK citizens from the EU. Brussels uneasy over EU citizens’ rights after Brexit It is not by force to allow you into my house. 1 Like |
Re: FG Declares Operation Amotekun Illegal by myrates: 7:31am On Jan 15, 2020 |
Ashabbiiee:Thanks for this good question , those guys up there are crazy hypocrites. Isbah, civilian JTF and Arewa, are these organizations legal to combat insecurity in the north?So Southwest should keep folding harms till herdsmen kill every one in the region. |
Re: FG Declares Operation Amotekun Illegal by NaMeAboki: 7:38am On Jan 15, 2020 |
wirinet: I am glad you enjoyed your NYSC days and felt the love of Sokoto in those days. I can assure you that, although Nigeria of the 80's cannot be the same the same today; however, not much has changed in terms of your fundamental rights since then. Southerners and Christianity continue to thrive in Sokoto (and by extension, most of the Muslim north) without fear or molestation. Having said that; unfortunately, most of you southerners will continue to disagree because of your innate tendency to always view any issue or move by northerners from your narrow ethno-religious perspective: Arabic letters on our currency notes and military insignia (introduced by the British); herdsmen attacking and killing more Muslims/northerners; Boko Haram attacking and killing more Muslims; Sharia which applies to Muslims only ........and so on, are all being deliberately misinterpreted as Islamisation/Fulanisation agenda by southern political losing elites in order to curry more favour/relevance and support from their apparently gullible lot. As already mentioned, Hisbah was introduced in affected states to enforce Sharia laws on Muslims only alongside some moral laws on the generality of the citizenry - including the much misunderstood prohibition of alcohol (which was not enacted under Sharia law, as most of you misconstrue). On the other hand; Amotekun (as you even admitted in your post) is intentionally being set up by the SW states as a security outfit - SECURITY being the key word here; which clearly fall within the exclusive list and therefore outside the responsibility of the state/regional governments. I will advise your governments to key into the existing FG defence structure (police, military etc) in a collaborative way e.t.c. JTF rather than going it alone - which is illegal. |
Re: FG Declares Operation Amotekun Illegal by wirinet(m): 7:48am On Jan 15, 2020 |
Cherez:Sorry to say, but you don't know how international politics and diplomacy works. I reiterate again Iran has never ran any terror program on US soil , and no Iranian has ever planned or carried out a terror attack on US soil. Only Trump and Pompeo seem to know. They have not been able to explain to the American people the real reason Soleimani was assassinated. Even his republican members of Congress were angry at the briefings Trump's people gave. Agreed. But the coys are terrorists to the US and israel, but not to most countries of the world. The Europeans, Russia, china, etc do not view Iran as terrorist. These were Iranians coming in through the ports, so these are the ones the authorities could easily identify. If a war actually breaks out, the government would hunt for Iranians and detain them for the duration of the war. This was what happened to Japanese and Japanese Americans and Germans in America during WW2. 1 Like |
Re: FG Declares Operation Amotekun Illegal by Nobody: 7:55am On Jan 15, 2020 |
wirinet:So what sayest thou of Lagos State neighbourhood watch? |
Re: FG Declares Operation Amotekun Illegal by darediamond(m): 7:56am On Jan 15, 2020 |
NaMeAboki:High Which court? A region is saying no to Jiadist invasion your talking of dragging it out with them at court. Listen to yourself again, do you in your concious and sub-concious mind sound SENSIBLE AT ALL?? 1 Like |
Re: FG Declares Operation Amotekun Illegal by Iamgrey5(m): 7:59am On Jan 15, 2020 |
NaMeAboki:@ emboldened I am sorry but you are the one that doesn't understand the operations of Amoteku It was actually set up to work hand in hand with the Nigerian police They would give Nigeria police information and make citizens arrest and hand it over to the Nigerian police. it doesn't have a detention center Why shouldn't State government be able to do that? or is Malami confused? |
Re: FG Declares Operation Amotekun Illegal by fireback: 8:09am On Jan 15, 2020 |
YorubaLord:if Yoruba Muslims catch you... 1 Like |
Re: FG Declares Operation Amotekun Illegal by unbitchable(m): 8:13am On Jan 15, 2020 |
CharlotteFlair:it can only go worse for you from here on. i pity your mom who is turning in her grave right now. |
Re: FG Declares Operation Amotekun Illegal by Kfed4ril(m): 8:18am On Jan 15, 2020 |
PerfectlyPerfect: I thought I was the only one that noticed it o, Maybe it’s because the government has stopped Npower, their only source of livelihood. |
Re: FG Declares Operation Amotekun Illegal by DexterousOne(m): 8:23am On Jan 15, 2020 |
wirinet: You cannot expel naturalized citizens and permanent residents just like that Especially naturalized citizens... Many of you are just dumb on this forum..... Very dumb and uninformed You just think someone in govt will just pursue people just like that Tho those on temporary visas can be denied entry, and those who violate their visa conditions can also be deported even if the visa has not expired.... Those who commit serious crimes on temp visas or permanent residence card can also be deported under certain conditions (US in particular) But naturalized citizens cannot be deported It's now clear that many of you on this forum are unexposed riff raffs who don't travel and who have no idea on how this world operates |
Re: FG Declares Operation Amotekun Illegal by dalass(f): 8:24am On Jan 15, 2020 |
NaMeAboki: Aboki, please leave amotekun abeg. The police and even military are ill-equipped to fight insecurity anywhere in this country as you must know. They are only good at collecting money on the highways! Even our governors have absolutely no control over these 'lawful' Nigerian security structures.... And you want the south west governors to watch their territories to turn to another terrorist ridden region like the Northern Nigeria where other countries fear and have warned their citizens to refrain from visiting? No thanks... We'll take it from here 5 Likes |
Re: FG Declares Operation Amotekun Illegal by urahara(m): 8:43am On Jan 15, 2020 |
executive12: Don't just say what a question . Give reasons. |
Re: FG Declares Operation Amotekun Illegal by yahmohy27: 8:49am On Jan 15, 2020 |
Ashabbiiee:Hisbah is Legal .Because they don't carry guns as police and other paramilitary do .Their activities are not the same as that of other paramilitary.They are not set to protect or fight any security challenges like in the Amotekun which is set to fight Arm robber's, herdsmen, kidnappers etc.Meanwhile the Attorney General office and Minister of justice office were consulted for proper information and organization of the so called HISBAH |
Re: FG Declares Operation Amotekun Illegal by wirinet(m): 8:53am On Jan 15, 2020 |
NaMeAboki:I did A/Levels in sokoto and not NYSC. How can you say fundamental rights of non muslims have not changed, when your hishah police go arresting non muslims in their homes and hotels for drinking beer and intimate relations with women? You are telling me that if I am an animist that uses gin as part of my prayer, I cannot come to sokoto. About Arabic letters on currency notes. Yes a few Christians complain, but most don't just care. As long as there are English letters and numerals (Arabic), that I can understand, they can as well add Chinese. I don't care. Herdsmen killing both muslims and Christians should be everybody's concern. If the hisbah Police was to protect both Christian and muslims from fulani herdsmen's attacks, believe me I would not have any issues, but imposing muslims laws and morals on non muslims is wrong. The herdsmen menace has been a major problem in Nigeria. It started from the north, decimated the middle belt and is not threatening the peace and security of the East and west. Should we not sit together and resolve the Fulani herdsmen issue once and for all? I would have expected Buhari being a fulani himselves to tackle the issue, but instead he has been aloof. 4 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: FG Declares Operation Amotekun Illegal by Credobee(m): 8:54am On Jan 15, 2020 |
Their salaries was not reduced........ They were sacked with no benefits quote author=PerfectlyPerfect post=85797093]I can't see any law backing Hisbah police too. Has anyone noticed that, unlike previous months, the number of people opposing this government on threads on front page has increased. I'm guessing they've reduced the salary of our Nairaland resident zombies[/quote] 2 Likes |
Re: FG Declares Operation Amotekun Illegal by Nobody: 9:06am On Jan 15, 2020 |
As I see this thing last night I laugh ehn. Shey una want buhari we die here. Atiku would have been the same thing what I am saying is we should vote for better leaders in this country. |
Re: FG Declares Operation Amotekun Illegal by syntekelite(m): 9:14am On Jan 15, 2020 |
hisexcellency34:anyone who stayed in the north well will.also know there is a security outfit called iyabanga.. i just hope our so.called.yoruba leaders have the mind and guts to face this biased federal government.. southwest and south south are bigger than any northern oligarchy 1 Like |
Re: FG Declares Operation Amotekun Illegal by AdeniyiA(m): 9:37am On Jan 15, 2020 |
It does seem providing my own security, power(generator), water etc is illegal too? |
Re: FG Declares Operation Amotekun Illegal by Nowenuse: 9:52am On Jan 15, 2020 |
zionzoe: This is nothing but the truth. The same thing that is plaguing the Southwest is what is plaguing the Middlebelt and northern minorities..... Whenever the Christians make a move to secure their future, their own Muslim brothers will be there to sabotage it because of Islamic solidarity with Hausa fulanis. 3 Likes |
Re: FG Declares Operation Amotekun Illegal by CharlotteFlair: 9:57am On Jan 15, 2020 |
unbitchable:It is your prostitute dirty mother that's turning in the grave you fcking sissy!! Oponu ara re! |
Re: FG Declares Operation Amotekun Illegal by NaMeAboki: 10:24am On Jan 15, 2020 |
wirinet: This is exactly what I have been saying; for goodness sake why must you close your mind to reading and reasoning; why must you ignore or twist issues even though made clear as light and day? I have repeatedly explained that Sharia applies to Muslims only; while Hisbah is authorised to enforce it in ADDITION to some moral laws including consumption of alcohol. Pls tell me which part of the 3rd paragraph of my last post did you not understand (reproduced here below) As already mentioned, Hisbah was introduced in affected states to enforce Sharia laws on Muslims only alongside some moral laws on the generality of the citizenry - including the much misunderstood prohibition of alcohol (which was not enacted under Sharia law, as most of you misconstrue). For the last time, pls note that Hisbah is NOT security based; they are not even armed and therefore cannot protect anyone from physical threat. The excesses of the herdsmen is indeed a threat and a menace to everyone; it is therefore reasonable for Nigerians to expect and complain when govt protection fails them; at the same time the law does not allow individuals or state govts to resort to self help in the manner in which the SW governors are approaching this problem - because there is always the danger that such outfits can easily be hijacked or get out of control and therefore mushroom to something never imagined or intended before (e.g. an ethnic supremacist witch hunting or separatist machinery) in view of which no govt will sit back and fold its arm at such possibility. |
Re: FG Declares Operation Amotekun Illegal by NaMeAboki: 10:30am On Jan 15, 2020 |
dalass: I imagine you believe your governors have equipped this Amotekun to be more better and efficient than the Nigerian military and police - well done; clap for yourself. |
Re: FG Declares Operation Amotekun Illegal by myobjective: 10:34am On Jan 15, 2020 |
NaMeAboki: Don't just pretend that northerners are some kind of angels that are devout ethnic bigotry. The truth is we are guilty of ethnic chauvinistic because has always shown that some section of the country are ill bent on dominating and unfair to others when they are in a position of authority. It's imaterial if Fulani terrorist has killed more northerners than southerners or more Muslim than Christians or the fact that some demography decided to keep mute in the face of injustices doesn't mean we should keep mute and continue to act all is well. The core north sees Fulani as their lord that can do no wrong but we in the southwest don't share in such sentiment. We'll continue to make laws that will protect us against external aggressors be it Fulani, Hausa or Igbo. |
Re: FG Declares Operation Amotekun Illegal by NaMeAboki: 10:35am On Jan 15, 2020 |
Iamgrey5: Is that why the IGP released a statement in which he said, anyone carrying illegal arms would be arrested? Did you also read the last paragraph of the AGF's statement (attached to this thread) - if you did; what did you think he meant? |
Re: FG Declares Operation Amotekun Illegal by Ayed44: 10:36am On Jan 15, 2020 |
viyon02:The federal government has spoken. Any Amotekun caught will be treated like a terrorist. |
Re: FG Declares Operation Amotekun Illegal by NaMeAboki: 10:36am On Jan 15, 2020 |
darediamond: You are beyond redemption; so I am not going to bother arguing with you. |
Re: FG Declares Operation Amotekun Illegal by myobjective: 10:40am On Jan 15, 2020 |
NaMeAboki: The problem with the Nigeria force is political and lack of capacity. We are seriously under policed in Nigeria, there are thousands of community without police presence both in the north and south, this gives room for criminals to easily have their ways. Having community police doesn't stop the federal government from doing their job, it will only complement their activity. If I may ask, why are you guys so worried about a security outfit created to solve a problem than the instigator of the problem itself? |
Re: FG Declares Operation Amotekun Illegal by myobjective: 10:41am On Jan 15, 2020 |
NaMeAboki: But we all know that herdsmen carry illegal firearms why hasn't anyone of them being arrested? |
Re: FG Declares Operation Amotekun Illegal by NaMeAboki: 10:42am On Jan 15, 2020 |
myobjective: Indeed, states are entitled to enact laws and enforce them so long as they are consistent with the Nigerian constitution; that much is clear - I also think that was the message the AGF was trying to get across. |
Re: FG Declares Operation Amotekun Illegal by Iamgrey5(m): 10:45am On Jan 15, 2020 |
NaMeAboki:Hunters carry arms, Herders carry"ak47 to defend themselves" (a very sophisticated automatic gun), even JTF carry weapons as long as it is sanctioned by law and the police or necessary security agencies are aware of the weapons. Amotekun would also only carry not so sophisticated weapons to defend themselves because let's face it they would be facing criminals who might also be armed. @ the AGF What exactly is the AGF saying that is unique or sensible, he claimed they should consulted him first. However, what exactly do we need his permission for ? AGF isn't the constitution, the constitution is for everyone to see and only the court can determine if an action is illegal not the AGF. Anyways, this case would be challenged in the court of law. |
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