wirinet:

Sorry to say, but you don't know how international politics and diplomacy works.

I reiterate again Iran has never ran any terror program on US soil , and no Iranian has ever planned or carried out a terror attack on US soil.


Only Trump and Pompeo seem to know. They have not been able to explain to the American people the real reason Soleimani was assassinated. Even his republican members of Congress were angry at the briefings Trump's people gave.


Agreed. But the coys are terrorists to the US and israel, but not to most countries of the world. The Europeans, Russia, china, etc do not view Iran as terrorist.


These were Iranians coming in through the ports, so these are the ones the authorities could easily identify.
If a war actually breaks out, the government would hunt for Iranians and detain them for the duration of the war. This was what happened to Japanese and Japanese Americans and Germans in America during WW2.

myobjective:


But we all know that herdsmen carry illegal firearms why hasn't anyone of them being arrested?

NaMeAboki:


They are being arrested and often killed in the process every day - their pictures are all over the internet if you care to look.

myobjective:


The problem with the Nigeria force is political and lack of capacity. We are seriously under policed in Nigeria, there are thousands of community without police presence both in the north and south, this gives room for criminals to easily have their ways.

Having community police doesn't stop the federal government from doing their job, it will only complement their activity.

If I may ask, why are you guys so worried about a security outfit created to solve a problem than the instigator of the problem itself?

NaMeAboki:


No one is against community policing, the president even said so himself; however, such arrangements must have approval and be sanctioned by the FG and relevant law enforcement agencies.
As for your question (in bold) I have already addressed it in one of my earlier posts.

- because there is always the danger that such outfits can easily be hijacked or get out of control and therefore mushroom to something never imagined or intended before (e.g. an ethnic supremacist witch-hunting or separatist machinery) in view of which no govt will sit back and fold its arm at such possibility.

myobjective:


But you will agree with me that the way the federal government is handling the issue of herdsmen is playing into the hands of the propagandist to cause a problem.

The federal government has failed to protect life and property both in the south and north, don't you think it will better for the state/regional government to have some kind of security architecture in place to complement the work of the federal government?

Iamgrey5:
Hunters carry arms, Herders carry"ak47 to defend themselves" (a very sophisticated automatic gun), even JTF carry weapons as long as it is sanctioned by law and the police or necessary security agencies are aware of the weapons.

Amotekun would also only carry not so sophisticated weapons to defend themselves because let's face it they would be facing criminals who might also be armed.

@ the AGF

What exactly is the AGF saying that is unique or sensible, he claimed they should consulted him first.

However, what exactly do we need his permission for ?

AGF isn't the constitution, the constitution is for everyone to see and only the court can determine if an action is illegal not the AGF.

Anyways, this case would be challenged in the court of law.

myobjective:


I agree with the bolded.

If I may ask, what is the way forward to checkmate the issue of kidnapping and herder-farmer clashes in both North and South?

Germi9:
Are you in anyway related to a Monkey?

Germi9:

Your cluelessness and sentiments have taken the better of ur Senses,a simple yes or no would av helped u.

NaMeAboki:


You are beyond redemption; so I am not going to bother arguing with you.

NaMeAboki:


Improve our security architecture and empower the law enforcement agencies with better equipment, training; more personnel and funding; and cooperation from local communities in terms of providing necessary intelligence.

Ayed44:
The federal government has spoken.

Any Amotekun caught will be treated like a terrorist.

darediamond:

I expect SENSIBLE reply from you over the issue of life and death Core North is playing with at the expense of we Southeners and here again you showed FoolishNESS in your reply like people up there whose region as been named "HOME OF LAWLESSNESS".

NaMeAboki:


I imagine you believe your governors have equipped this Amotekun to be more better and efficient than the Nigerian military and police - well done; clap for yourself.

myobjective:


Good points throughout but we are only looking at the security point, what about the salient point of old age practice of open grazing?

What about the economic hardship being faced by both harder and farmers that are forcing more people into crime?
I live in Abuja and I travel extensively across the north-central, south-west and north-west zones and all I see are angry youth ready to do anything to makes a living. How do we control our explosive population, create wealth in our rural areas through cartage industries, farming and agro-processing?

As people, we need to look holistically into conflict resolution, wealth creation and population control mechanism.

dalass:


At least let's try something else aside all these failed aboki-led military, federal govt and police, DSS etc who only pay lip service and profit from the insecurity of innocent lives and property.

We'll clap when the job is done!

MelesZenawi:


Because FG said Yorubas Amotekun is illegal South and east should wake up......,.

Where they sleeping before?

please make una carry una cross.

NaMeAboki:


Improve our security architecture and empower the law enforcement agencies with better equipment, training; more personnel and funding; and cooperation from local communities in terms providing necessary intelligence.

seunmohmoh:
People following politics, una dey try o.

obentenyson:
yes. your family..

hardbody:


Never mind, the band is on its way. And they will play all night on your side of the coloured roof

PerfectlyPerfect:
I can't see any law backing Hisbah police too.

Has anyone noticed that, unlike previous months, the number of people opposing this government on threads on front page has increased.
I'm guessing they've reduced the salary of our Nairaland resident zombies

wirinet:

The security architecture as presently constituted cannot work. The Nigerian Police Force was a colonial hang over with the sole purpose of protecting the colonial administrators from sometimes hostile natives. They owe their allegiance to the colonial government.
The Nigerian Police force main pre occupation is to protect the government in power and their conniving elite.
There are murders on the streets everyday without the police caring to carry out investigations and finding the murders. If one government official or a big man is killed, the police will Fish fish out the culprits under 48 hours.

A federal police cannot be expected to enforce local or customary laws, it just doesn't make sense. This is one of the reasons the police are useless during prosecutions and are often disgraced in court. You expect a police man from Enugu to learn the state and customary laws of in ogbomosho, to be able to successfully prosecute a case in ogbomosho.

A state house of assembly makes laws, a state high Court interprete the laws, but you expect a federal police to enforce the laws. Does that make sense?

Not that I exactly oppose hisbah Police or Amotekun or even Biafra secrete service (that is if the chief executives of the south east states decides to name their Police as such), my grouse is in the laws governing their creation and operation. They should operate within the confines of the constitution and not try an impose laws that limits freedom guaranteed by the constitution.

goshee:
which southerners? are you mad? NK set up BSS but afonjas in collaboration with the FG tag them terrorist group and now you want us to unite and fight Amoteku. Ogun kee you there. SW has to fight their battle alone

NaMeAboki:


The issues you raised in your 1st paragraph will be addressed once the problem of corruption which riddles the police, like the rest of our society, is resolved.

Current police postings involve retention of 1/3 of indigenous officers in their states of origin; while the other 2/3 are drawn from other states/regions.

In theory, this arrangement would address the issue of local peculiarities, including prosecution of customary laws, knowledge of customs and traditions by indigenous officers; while the rest would be expected to provide the much needed objectivity and neutrality required in their duty in maintaining law and order.

I agree entirely with your views in your last paragraph.

NaMeAboki:


Then you will be welcoming anarchy, a breakdown of law and order, where everybody feels entitled to take up arms and do as they deem fit - careful what you are wishing for.

Xisnin:

What's the basis of this comparison?
BSS is not a security system.
It was an arm of Ipob a secessionist group.
Ipob was declared a terrorist group by a court for its secessionist activities
against the state.

If you think BSS should be legal, then you have missed it.

goshee:
for you information BSS was set up to curb invaders and address the security challenges in the south east but you people supported the motion that aborted BSS. If a court of law can tag an armless group who only seek self determination a terrorist group what makes you think they won't do so to Ametoku who they think will work against their interest if they so wish. it will only cost a phone call from Abba Kyari to Tanko Muhammed