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Re: Wikileaks Founder Julian Assange Arrested In Uk by jambya(m): 9:46pm On Dec 07, 2010
War against the World must respected, jst got himself on the losing side, seriously going to pay for his action big time. All the best Mr. Julian.
Re: Wikileaks Founder Julian Assange Arrested In Uk by Builder: 9:52pm On Dec 07, 2010
Wikileaks is right in posting the secret documents. Statements like, 'it will endanger lives' by US is alright but what happens when THEY,US keep endangering lives of millions of people around the globe. I am not surprised by the contents of the documents, what else can you expect from US and others, Oh! yes, it is world of politcs and conspiracies! Julian Assange must not be allowed to fall into the hands of the vindictive US law system, they lied about the wars on terror, lies on iran, lies on palestine and much more, im just waiting to read the wikileak info on the USA involvement in the 9/11, f.ucking idiots

If anything, Julian Assange should be an icon of socialist and media  revolutionary movements and a cultural icon worldwide just like Guevara . to hell with the US and its allies
Re: Wikileaks Founder Julian Assange Arrested In Uk by Tsiya(m): 10:06pm On Dec 07, 2010
WikiLeaks has won a number of awards, including the 2008 Economist magazine New Media Award.[8] I[b]n June 2009, WikiLeaks and Julian Assange won Amnesty International's UK Media Award (in the category "New Media"wink for the 2008 publication of "Kenya: The Cry of Blood – Extra Judicial Killings and Disappearances",[9] a report by the Kenya National Commission on Human Rights about police killings in Kenya[/b].[10] In May 2010, the New York Daily News listed WikiLeaks first in a ranking of "websites that could totally change the news".[11]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WikiLeaks

If it is Africa you get international media award but if it is America, you are a terrorist. Double standard.


The reason why we are on the internet most of the time is to know the truth and get more information. Anything contrary to that is fiction or romance and wikileaks is giving us undiluted information for informed minds to make judgements. Now the informed minds will tell us we don't need the informtion, we are not capable of handling the truth because it is America.



"One of the charges is that he had unprotected sex with a woman, identified only as Miss A, when she insisted he use a condom.

Another is that he had unprotected sex with another woman, Miss W, while she was asleep"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11937110

Now Im not a lawyer, but these charges are ridiculous. . .
Re: Wikileaks Founder Julian Assange Arrested In Uk by SEFAGO(m): 10:21pm On Dec 07, 2010
LOL, agree those are the funniest charges I have seen in my life lol grin grin grin
Re: Wikileaks Founder Julian Assange Arrested In Uk by Nobody: 10:31pm On Dec 07, 2010
This movie is a funny one; I hope Assange knows what he is doing.
Re: Wikileaks Founder Julian Assange Arrested In Uk by Builder: 10:33pm On Dec 07, 2010
@ Tsiya, i wont be surprised if julian assange is charged cos he have a di.ck
Re: Wikileaks Founder Julian Assange Arrested In Uk by chic2pimp(m): 11:08pm On Dec 07, 2010
4 Play:

How ridiculous. If someone leaks confidential US info, they become 'heroes'. Why can't they leak from confidential Chinese Govt files. Their courage starts and ends with Western Govts.
Exactly my thoughts!!!
Re: Wikileaks Founder Julian Assange Arrested In Uk by Basseti: 11:10pm On Dec 07, 2010
Kobojunkie:

It pays to do a bit of googling, preferably on your own to get yourself some facts to work with when debating.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bradley_Manning

How does that answer my question or do u just post cos it is free  undecided

Someone is calling Assange a terrorist and I am asking if U call him that, what do U call Bradley Manning? Has any of those nutheads come out and label Bradley a terrorist?
The dude was nabbed 5 months ago even before the Wiki dump,,,,,that didnt cause any news but now everybody is up in arms against Assange.

Besides, the hoopla about Assange is not about what he exposed , cos frankly he didnt tell us exactly what we havent known for a long time. Most of the info were just like stuff get on TMZ; just substitute Paris Hilton and Britney Spears with Hillary Clinton and Mamman Ghadaffi.
The Assange fever is more about "what else does he have on us"?

And this is funny, this is the same guy that was winning awards and accolades for most of his work from starting with the Kenyan documents. Now he is a villain LOL!!!!!
Re: Wikileaks Founder Julian Assange Arrested In Uk by Basseti: 11:13pm On Dec 07, 2010
chic2pimp:

Exactly my thoughts!!!

If Assange gets his hands on Chinese documents , he is gonna post 'em. This is not about West or East.
If he gets a Chinese equivalent of Manning, be rest assured that shit is gonna hit the fan.
Re: Wikileaks Founder Julian Assange Arrested In Uk by Kobojunkie: 11:40pm On Dec 07, 2010
Basseti:

How does that answer my question or do u just post cos it is free  undecided

And this is funny[b], this is the same guy that was winning awards and accolades for most of his work from starting with the Kenyan documents.[/b] Now he is a villain LOL!!!!!

Sigh!!! Again, read what the man is being charged with.

You compare his INVESTIGATIVE work in The Cry of Blood – Extra Judicial Killings and Disappearances, for which he won an award, with his LEAKING of Secret stolen documents, and I wonder why? Is it the case that you also believe he must have stolen Kenyan secret documents for his claimed research on the kenyan issue?
Re: Wikileaks Founder Julian Assange Arrested In Uk by Pataki: 11:42pm On Dec 07, 2010
Reading some arguments here, I cannot help but laugh how some people reason. grin

When WikiLeaks released the video of US Military forces shooting innocent Iraqis from their airspace, where were you people to harangue and call for the arrest of Assange?

When WikiLeaks released the address details of all members of BNP in the UK, where were you all to call for the arrest of Julian?

Suddenly, he is releasing the top US secret documents, which are in direct violation to the UN Convention in which the US is a treaty of, he is tagged as a terrorist.

How ridiculous!
Re: Wikileaks Founder Julian Assange Arrested In Uk by babaowo: 11:45pm On Dec 07, 2010
wiki's you too dey leak oooooooooo, wikileak
Re: Wikileaks Founder Julian Assange Arrested In Uk by tubabie(f): 12:02am On Dec 08, 2010
Pataki:

Reading some arguments here, I cannot help but laugh how some people reason. grin

When WikiLeaks released the video of US Military forces shooting innocent Iraqis from their airspace, where were you people to harangue and call for the arrest of Assange?

When WikiLeaks released the address details of all members of BNP in the UK, where were you all to call for the arrest of Julian?

Suddenly, he is releasing the top US secret documents, which are in direct violation to the UN Convention in which the US is a treaty of, he is tagged as a terrorist.

How ridiculous!

The emboldened part to me is the critical issue. . . . . . most of the documents released in this latest saga reveal most of the nations concerned and their allies contravening the UN Convention agreements.
Re: Wikileaks Founder Julian Assange Arrested In Uk by Tsiya(m): 12:17am On Dec 08, 2010
Kobojunkie:

Sigh!!! Again, read what the man is being charged with.

You compare his[b] INVESTIGATIVE[/b] work in The Cry of Blood – Extra Judicial Killings and Disappearances, for which he won an award, with his LEAKING of Secret stolen documents, and I wonder why? Is it the case that you also believe he must have stolen Kenyan secret documents for his claimed research on the kenyan issue?

It was not investigative work, he just published the document that the Kenyan Governemnt refused to make public and termed it secret. A very government can hide legitimate public information and called it secret. I am not American but even if Americans doesn't want to know what their governemt is doing with their money, we want to know where the American governemt is violating international law. Government officals concocts lies and defraud people and term them strategic national security. Now the US government officials are authorizing clendestine operations in UN in violation of internationa law, and we now know it is false. A Government that claims to be transparent and honest have nothing to hide. Assange doesn't just publish the documents, he makes them available to reputable media organisations (NY times nd Guardian) for redacting and making sure non are of strategic military planning importance. . . .the documents are not helping terrorist but embarassing governments. . . .

Infact terrorist doesn't need Assange documents . . . terrorism is an ideology, and Googles Maps, which is almost free, is one of the most useful tool they need. . .
Re: Wikileaks Founder Julian Assange Arrested In Uk by olabukola: 12:22am On Dec 08, 2010
Tsiya:

It was not investigative work, he just published the document that the Kenyan Governemnt refused to make public and termed it secret. A very government can hide legitimate public information and called it secret. I am not American but even if Americans doesn't want to know what their governemt is doing with their money, we want to know where the American governemt is violating international law. Government officals concocts lies and defraud people and term them strategic national security. Now the US government officials are authorizing clendestine operations in UN in violation of internationa law, and we now know it is false. A Government that claims to be transparent and honest have nothing to hide. Assange doesn't just publish the documents, he makes them available to reputable media organisations (NY times nd Guardian) for redacting and making sure non are of strategic military planning importance. . . .the documents are not helping terrorist but embarassing governments. . . .

Infact terrorist doesn't need Assange documents . . . terrorism is an ideology, and Googles Maps, which is almost free, is one of the most useful tool they need. . .
The bolded get me confused from the posts am reading here. What is we change the US in the bolded and replaced it with IRAN or North Korea or Russia or China how will the responce here be.
Re: Wikileaks Founder Julian Assange Arrested In Uk by Tsiya(m): 12:38am On Dec 08, 2010
olabukola:

The bolded get me confused from the posts am reading here. What is we change the US in the bolded and replaced it with IRAN or North Korea or Russia or China how will the responce here be.

or Nigeria, or Saudi or UK. . . it doesn't matter. If a country or person is claiming moral authority, she/he has the obligation to live up to that. . . spying on UN is not the same as spying on China, Russia, Iran, . . . UN is suppose to be the final arbiter on disputes . . . and if its neutrality should not be undermined by those that claimed to uphold "morals" and "values"
Re: Wikileaks Founder Julian Assange Arrested In Uk by Kobojunkie: 12:53am On Dec 08, 2010
Tsiya:

It was not investigative work, he just published the document that the Kenyan Governemnt refused to make public and termed it secret. A very government can hide legitimate public information and called it secret.

The part in bold, I am not 100% on since the award was for investigative work done and not for a leak/releasing to the public, documents considered secret by a sovereign nation.  But then again, it was from amnesty international and not the UN.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/aug/01/julian-assange-wikileaks-afghanistan

When I try to question him about the morality of what he's done, if he worries about unleashing something that he can't control, that no one can control, he tells me the story of the Kenyan 2007 elections when a WikiLeak document "swung the election".

The leak exposed massive corruption by Daniel Arap Moi, and the Kenyan people sat up and took notice. [size=13pt]In the ensuing elections, in which corruption became a major issue, violence swept the country. "1,300 people were eventually killed, and 350,000 were displaced. That was a result of our leak," says Assange. It's a chilling statistic, but then he states: "On the other hand, the Kenyan people had a right to that information and 40,000 children a year die of malaria in Kenya. And many more die of money being pulled out of Kenya, and as a result of the Kenyan shilling being debased."[/size]

It's the kind of moral conundrum that would unnerve most people, that made some wonder last week what the potential ramifications of the latest leak might be, but it is a subject on which Assange himself is absolutely clear: "You have to start with the truth. The truth is the only way that we can get anywhere. Because any decision-making that is based upon lies or ignorance can't lead to a good conclusion."

I don't like the way he thinks at all
Re: Wikileaks Founder Julian Assange Arrested In Uk by chelseabmw(m): 1:06am On Dec 08, 2010
hmmmmmmmmmmmm
Re: Wikileaks Founder Julian Assange Arrested In Uk by yeswecan(m): 1:17am On Dec 08, 2010
@ Kobojunkie your American diction is causing irritation over here . .  your effort to be on the American side is so glaring and annoying

Just to echo Tsiya's point on UN and Clinton. It is just alright tor America's secretary of state to order the spying of UN top dogs - asked for credit card fingerprint and all that - without apologizing even now that we are talking facts . .  it is about right for an autocratic ruler to call for the booming of a democratic state which will definitely lead to uncountable death, no one is saying anything about that they are rather bothered with trivial issues. The leak documents only revealed America for what they truly are- as opposed to placing lives in danger. They are hypocrites, a self interested empire that will stop at nothing to get what it wants.  People already know this -  the leak does nothing new

No life is at risk. It was the same WikiLeaks that posted a video of US soldier's atrocities in Iraq, they should be applauded -  J. Assange is like the tank man to me.
Re: Wikileaks Founder Julian Assange Arrested In Uk by cold(m): 1:40am On Dec 08, 2010
We need more people lyk Assange to keep governments honest.I'm hoping he'll be pushed to the wall,enough to make him release the 'thermo-nuclear documents'.Now that wld be something
Re: Wikileaks Founder Julian Assange Arrested In Uk by Nobody: 1:53am On Dec 08, 2010
The guy's not being charged with any violation or abuse of information! Apart from those ludicrous charges, they can't hold him on anything cos technically, he didnt break any laws!

This is clearly intimidation tactis . . . . Hypocrites!
Re: Wikileaks Founder Julian Assange Arrested In Uk by EvilBrain1(m): 2:40am On Dec 08, 2010
You Nigerians are amazing! You live in one of the most corrupt countries in the world, where the people don't even know how much of their money a senator takes home each month. And yet you are all criticizing a man fighting to increase transparency in government.

Wikieaks has exposed countless examples of government and corporate corruption. They showed the world how the US and its allies have repeatedly lied about the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. They leaked a video showing the American military gunning down innocent civilians including 2 Reuters journalists.

And as a direct result of these activities, they are being hounded out of existence. The site is currently offline because someone (the CIA?) is mounting an illegal DDOS attack on it. Mr. Assange's life has been repeatedly threatened. People are calling for his murder. He has been arrested over highly suspect "sexual misconduct" (not r@pe) charges. His bank account has been suspended, someone even suggested that his son be kidnapped to "get at him". All this despite him not haven broken any laws. The US Pentagon even confirmed that no one has ever been hurt of killed by his organization's activities.

As far as I am concerned, this guy is a hero. And the villain here is clearly the US government which is starting to act more and more like China or North Korea.

I would happily donate money to wikileaks. More grease to their elbow.
Re: Wikileaks Founder Julian Assange Arrested In Uk by ladej(m): 3:52am On Dec 08, 2010
Evil Brain:

You Nigerians are amazing! You live in one of the most corrupt countries in the world, where the people don't even know how much of their money a senator takes home each month. And yet you are all criticizing a man fighting to increase transparency in government.

Wikieaks has exposed countless examples of government and corporate corruption. They showed the world how the US and its allies have repeatedly lied about the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. They leaked a video showing the American military gunning down innocent civilians including 2 Reuters journalists.

And as a direct result of these activities, they are being hounded out of existence. The site is currently offline because someone (the CIA?) is mounting an illegal DDOS attack on it. Mr. Assange's life has been repeatedly threatened. People are calling for his murder. He has been arrested over highly suspect "sexual misconduct" (not r@pe) charges. His bank account has been suspended, someone even suggested that his son be kidnapped to "get at him". All this despite him not haven broken any laws. The US Pentagon even confirmed that no one has ever been hurt of killed by his organization's activities.

As far as I am concerned, this guy is a hero. And the villain here is clearly the US government which is starting to act more and more like China or North Korea.

I would happily donate money to wikileaks. More grease to their elbow.
thank you sir

Ujujoan:

The guy's not being charged with any violation or abuse of information! Apart from those ludicrous charges, they can't hold him on anything cos technically, he didnt break any laws!

This is clearly intimidation tactis . . . . Hypocrites!
of course. na their way
Re: Wikileaks Founder Julian Assange Arrested In Uk by ladej(m): 3:55am On Dec 08, 2010
yeswecan:

@ Kobojunkie your American diction is causing irritation over here . . your effort to be on the American side is so glaring and annoying

Just to echo Tsiya's point on UN and Clinton. It is just alright tor America's secretary of state to order the spying of UN top dogs - asked for credit card fingerprint and all that - without apologizing even now that we are talking facts . . it is about right for an autocratic ruler to call for the booming of a democratic state which will definitely lead to uncountable death, no one is saying anything about that they are rather bothered with trivial issues. The leak documents only revealed America for what they truly are- as opposed to placing lives in danger. They are hypocrites, a self interested empire that will stop at nothing to get what it wants. People already know this - the leak does nothing new

No life is at risk. It was the same WikiLeaks that posted a video of US soldier's atrocities in Iraq, they should be applauded - J. Assange is like the tank man to me.


leave kobo jare, maybe one day when she's old and grey she go see yankee for what it truly is, time will tell.
Re: Wikileaks Founder Julian Assange Arrested In Uk by ladej(m): 4:02am On Dec 08, 2010
Pataki:

Reading some arguments here, I cannot help but laugh how some people reason. grin

When WikiLeaks released the video of US Military forces shooting innocent Iraqis from their airspace, where were you people to harangue and call for the arrest of Assange?

When WikiLeaks released the address details of all members of BNP in the UK, where were you all to call for the arrest of Julian?

Suddenly, he is releasing the top US secret documents, which are in direct violation to the UN Convention in which the US is a treaty of, he is tagged as a terrorist.
How ridiculous!
e be like say the definition of the word terrorist needs to be redefined. haba anything now na terrorist. o ga ju. we are all witnessing a live robert ludlum novel and its unfolding beyond our eyes. the rape charges are beyond ridiculous. truly absurd
Re: Wikileaks Founder Julian Assange Arrested In Uk by eherbal(m): 4:17am On Dec 08, 2010
Dead man walking grin
Re: Wikileaks Founder Julian Assange Arrested In Uk by eherbal(m): 4:27am On Dec 08, 2010
i guess osama bin laden is somewhere laughing his head off
Re: Wikileaks Founder Julian Assange Arrested In Uk by ladej(m): 4:39am On Dec 08, 2010
e-herbal:

i guess osama bin laden is somewhere laughing his head off
yess boss grin the focus had shifted from him over 5 yrs ago anyway. this is d largest public leak since whenever, yo think over 250k hasnt been published yet. over the next few months expect more. cant wait for specific details about nigeria.cant wait
Re: Wikileaks Founder Julian Assange Arrested In Uk by Kobojunkie: 5:38am On Dec 08, 2010
yeswecan:

@ Kobojunkie your American diction is causing irritation over here . .  your effort to be on the American side is so glaring and annoying

Just to echo Tsiya's point on UN and Clinton. It is just alright tor America's secretary of state to order the spying of UN top dogs - asked for credit card fingerprint and all that - without apologizing even now that we are talking facts . .  it is about right for an autocratic ruler to call for the booming of a democratic state which will definitely lead to uncountable death, no one is saying anything about that they are rather bothered with trivial issues. The leak documents only revealed America for what they truly are- as opposed to placing lives in danger. They are hypocrites, a self interested empire that will stop at nothing to get what it wants.  People already know this -  the leak does nothing new

No life is at risk. It was the same WikiLeaks that posted a video of US soldier's atrocities in Iraq, they should be applauded -  J. Assange is like the tank man to me.



So in when translated -- As I do not see this EXACTLY the way you do, I must be an ENEMY to you and most definitely an American arse kisser? Grow up!


The very post where I state I do not like how Assange thinks has nothing to do with America, but about the events that took place about 3 years ago in Kenya where more than a thousand people lost their lives AS A RESULT( ACCORDING TO ASSANGE HIMSELF) of his leaking secret information. At the end of the day, we know NOTHING CHANGED but still over a thousand people lost their lives because of Assange's actions.
Re: Wikileaks Founder Julian Assange Arrested In Uk by Kobojunkie: 5:41am On Dec 08, 2010
Ujujoan:

The guy's not being charged with any violation or abuse of information! Apart from those ludicrous charges, they can't hold him on anything cos technically, he didnt break any laws!

This is clearly intimidation tactis . . . . Hypocrites!

Espionage or spying involves an individual obtaining information that is considered secret or confidential without the permission of the holder of the information. Espionage is inherently clandestine, lest the legitimate holder of the information change plans or take other countermeasures once it is known that the information is in unauthorized hands.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Espionage
Re: Wikileaks Founder Julian Assange Arrested In Uk by Basseti: 5:49am On Dec 08, 2010
Kobojunkie:

Sigh!!! Again, read what the man is being charged with.

You compare his INVESTIGATIVE work in The Cry of Blood – Extra Judicial Killings and Disappearances, for which he won an award, with his LEAKING of Secret stolen documents, and I wonder why? Is it the case that you also believe he must have stolen Kenyan secret documents for his claimed research on the kenyan issue?

Wow, aint u the same dude asking me to read up before I post. cheesy

Which kind investigative work? angry Oh, cos its Kenya, the thing don become "investigative" abi? If it involves the US, then it is an act of terrorism.

Mr Assange (thru watever means best known to him) got hold of secrets from the vaults of the Kenyan Government and made it public. We all applauded.
Same thing here but different country, we are now screaming off with his head.
Re: Wikileaks Founder Julian Assange Arrested In Uk by Basseti: 5:58am On Dec 08, 2010
Ujujoan:

The guy's not being charged with any violation or abuse of information! Apart from those ludicrous charges, they can't hold him on anything cos technically, he didnt break any laws!

This is clearly intimidation tactis . . . . Hypocrites!

He is not yet until they can come up with something.

For now, the story is that he was being hounded to get tested for STD ( shocked) by 2 women whom he had sexual relations with in the past. Apparently the condom broke in the process grin The women agreed that the sexual encounters were INITIALLY consensual , whatever that means cheesy

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