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Re: Full Supreme Court Judgement On Imo Election. Pics by Agboriotejoye(m): 11:49am On Jan 25, 2020 |
Blindersoff:Are you saying it's virtually impossible for results to be falsified as long as elections held? INEC rejected the 388 results because they suspected them to be fraudulent since their PU officers' signatures as well as dat of other parties were missing on them. Uzodinma produced 358, police produced 366 but somehow conjured a total of 216k votes for the 388. SC accepted it. Who looks like an idiot in the above scenario? 1 Like |
Re: Full Supreme Court Judgement On Imo Election. Pics by Blindersoff: 11:52am On Jan 25, 2020 |
Agboriotejoye: You still do not get it do you? Since INEC rejected them as fake what reason was given for the rejection especially since they already admitted that elections held in all 388 PUs? If the reason would have been malpractice or violence then why did they not issue an incidence form to this effect? Either way it was a lose lose to INEC. WHY ADMIT ELECTIONS HELD IN THE PUs yet claim the results presented are fake even when you do not have copies of your own? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Full Supreme Court Judgement On Imo Election. Pics by Agboriotejoye(m): 11:55am On Jan 25, 2020 |
Blindersoff: See zombie, I like the fact you're side-stepping the fact that an Oluwole result can now be accepted by our courts as long as WAEC don't have a genuine copy to tender. Your mumuness did not tell you dat results can be written without votes counted or worse still, figures can be inflated. You're just so dull. Really, this discourse is beyond your brain grade. I strictly suggest you borrow a better brain or permanently shut up 1 Like |
Re: Full Supreme Court Judgement On Imo Election. Pics by Agboriotejoye(m): 11:56am On Jan 25, 2020 |
Blindersoff:Kindly show were INEC admitted that elections held in the PUs 1 Like |
Re: Full Supreme Court Judgement On Imo Election. Pics by Blindersoff: 11:58am On Jan 25, 2020 |
Agboriotejoye: You can now go ahead and argue with your shadow 2 Likes
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Re: Full Supreme Court Judgement On Imo Election. Pics by Olaolufred(m): 12:00pm On Jan 25, 2020 |
Blindersoff: They are those who made the white insults the black race. Go read, digest it, then come back to make an informed comments. Alas, they won't. 1 Like |
Re: Full Supreme Court Judgement On Imo Election. Pics by Blindersoff: 12:01pm On Jan 25, 2020 |
Olaolufred: My brother to say I am disappointed at the way empty heads argue as if they even know what it is all about is an understatement 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Full Supreme Court Judgement On Imo Election. Pics by CanadaOrBust: 12:02pm On Jan 25, 2020 |
Olaolufred: The onus is on the SC to at least examine the documents (which were the SOLE reason for the judgment) before taking the absolutely extreme step of replacing a seating gov! You obviously did not read the respondent attorney’s submission that the documents were not even properly signed and were smudgy and incomplete. A simple cursory EXAMINATION would have revealed all that. Don’t you think that at least that should have been done before rushing ahead to replace a seating governor with the appellant based SOLELY on those same documents which were solely supplied by the appellant himself and which INEC had sworn were not authentic??!! 2 Likes |
Re: Full Supreme Court Judgement On Imo Election. Pics by Agboriotejoye(m): 12:04pm On Jan 25, 2020 |
Olaolufred:See eehn, the mere fact INEC rejected those results means a re-run should be ordered in those PUs since INEC who are supposed to have the results claim not to have it and are saying those tendered by one of the contestants are false. What SC is indirectly accusing INEC of doing is colluding with PDP to rig which means INEC should be sanctioned. The problem we have in our legal system is that there is really no accountability for anything. Just imagine going to court and claiming an oluwole WAEC certificate is genuine. Imagine WAEC comes and says No it's fake. Then the court rules that since WAEC can't produce the genuine one, then oluwole remains genuine. The fact remains that only INEC through its PU officers are empowered to authenticate results just like WAEC. Allowing anyone else to procure and brandish results without authentication from INEC is opening the gate for fraud to become the norm in our system. The two best options the SC could have done was to call the PU officers to court to authenticate the results in defiance of INEC's position, or to order a rerun. Any other thing is simply an invitation to anarchy. 1 Like |
Re: Full Supreme Court Judgement On Imo Election. Pics by Olaolufred(m): 12:06pm On Jan 25, 2020 |
sanpipita: INEC is loaded with the burden of proof to beat Uzo down flat. But INEC being the victim of inducement to commit fraud had conjured figures they can't defend. If Ihedioha and many of you sympathetic with him wants to do anything good to help Nigeria going forward, it is to take INEC to court for the release of the complete results for the whole world to see. I am 100% sure it won't happen because it was a confederacy formed to deliberately commit fraud. |
Re: Full Supreme Court Judgement On Imo Election. Pics by Agboriotejoye(m): 12:08pm On Jan 25, 2020 |
Blindersoff:Na wa o Did you go to school at all? An assumption that elections held by the court does not imply that it held indeed. Where is it written that INEC admitted that elections held . You need to go back to school INEC rejecting the results is already an implication that elections did not hold there or results were doctored dummy!! And you've been accusing people of being empty heads 1 Like |
Re: Full Supreme Court Judgement On Imo Election. Pics by Blindersoff: 12:10pm On Jan 25, 2020 |
Agboriotejoye: INEC cannot reject the results and still claim elections held in the PUs yet are unable to produce their own copies all at the same time. If I am to go by your logic then Why did INEC go ahead to declare IHEDIOHA as winner and not ask for a rerun? This still shows INEC was complicit and acted deliberately to steal the mandate from Uzodinma. They could not counter nor reject the fact that elections held in the PUs. Rather for both the elections holding or not holding in the PUs and contesting the results submitted by UZODINMA they kept quiet because they could not provide counter evidence in form of incidence form or copies of their own and in law, Pure and simple silence in cases when the silent person is bound in good faith to explain himself, in which case, silence gives consent. But no assent will be inferred from a man unless first he knows his rights and knows what he is doing and second, his silence is voluntary. Qui tacet consentire videtur, ubi loqui debuit ac potuit INEC gave consent to the fact that UZODINMAS submitted documents were authentic and that elections held in the entire 388 polling units. The law is simple! The law is Just When any person is accused of a crime, or charged with any fact, and he does not deny it, in general, the presumption is very strong that the charge is correct. iNEC were given the chance to deny it by presenting evidence but could not produce A SINGLE ONE yet you blame the SUPREME COURT? You do not know anything about the law 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Full Supreme Court Judgement On Imo Election. Pics by Olaolufred(m): 12:15pm On Jan 25, 2020 |
CanadaOrBust: Please stop this. You should be more knowledgeable than this. "You only know fake by features it has or hasn't that made it different from the original". INEC have the ORIGINAL since they have declared Uzo's results fake. All INEC needed to do is present the original so as to rendered the purportedly fake result useless. The wiser ones knows INEC should be flogged for this shoddy job. Disgusting and annoying. 1 Like |
Re: Full Supreme Court Judgement On Imo Election. Pics by Blindersoff: 12:17pm On Jan 25, 2020 |
Agboriotejoye: In law silence is admission of guilt. If you are given the opportunity to prove your claim and you cannot do so in such a simple manner as submitting documents which should be in your possession then you have admitted guilt. If despite not having these documents you still went ahead to declare IHEDIOHA as the winner then you are also guilty of wrongful declaration in the absence of conclusive results. Was it the supreme Court who asked INEC to declare IHEDIOHA winner when they knew they did not have complete results? INEC cannot eat their cake and have it. They obviously had a deal with PDP regarding that election and it was to deliver IMO to them by any means. However thanks to checks and balances of the law, this deal eventually caved |
Re: Full Supreme Court Judgement On Imo Election. Pics by Olaolufred(m): 12:23pm On Jan 25, 2020 |
Agboriotejoye: If you had taken time to read the judgement, you would have known the real from 388 polling units is not 310 thousands plus that you typed. Let me help you a bit. Start from page 26 to 45. You will have more reasons to be calm and make informed comments. |
Re: Full Supreme Court Judgement On Imo Election. Pics by Agboriotejoye(m): 12:23pm On Jan 25, 2020 |
Blindersoff: If you say INEC is complicit, I will agree with you. But if you say mere showing 358/366 by Uzodinma is acceptable even when INEC that has the power to declare results say it is false is good enough, I say no. That a result is fake does not mean it should have a genuine as oluwole has shown us. INEC said the result is fake. Only the police and Uzodinma have the result. If you allege there is a collusion between INEC and Ihedioha, I can also allege there is a collusion between Uzodinma and the Police. But... the result was not signed by the PU officers! The figures don't add up!! There are no other parties with figures in the result!!! No incidence form, no EC8B with INEC. Definitely, something is amiss and my gut tells me Uzodinma wrote those results himself. INEC seeing it rejected it since it was not signed by their PU officers. INEC should have ordered a rerun no doubt. But their failure to do that does not automatically authenticate the results that only Uzodinma and the police have. Just as INEC can't rob IUzodinma to pay Ihedioha, the court can't rob Ihedioha to pay Uzodinma!! 1 Like |
Re: Full Supreme Court Judgement On Imo Election. Pics by pquaver(m): 12:28pm On Jan 25, 2020 |
Agboriotejoye:The accreditation of the cancelled units are not in the overall accredited voters. I asked a simple question. if inec was to do a rerun in those areas would the accredited voters not increase with a new result? |
Re: Full Supreme Court Judgement On Imo Election. Pics by Agboriotejoye(m): 12:29pm On Jan 25, 2020 |
Blindersoff: @the bolded. Can we now agree that Mahmoud Yakub is incompetent and needs to be removed? Lemme ask you something, when in atiku's case, INEC declared factsdontlie.org as fake, why didn't they produce their own web address as evidence. How come declaring they don't have a server and saying the one by PDP was fake sufficed then?? 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Full Supreme Court Judgement On Imo Election. Pics by pquaver(m): 12:32pm On Jan 25, 2020 |
Agboriotejoye:stop arguing blindly. if Waec does not have a genuine copy to tender how then did you the accuser arrive at the point that is oluwile when Waec themselves cannot disprove it? if Waec cannot prove it's fake then it's real.. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Full Supreme Court Judgement On Imo Election. Pics by Agboriotejoye(m): 12:34pm On Jan 25, 2020 |
pquaver:Is the accredited voters figure also in the results produced by Uzodinma? According to the appeal court, most of the figures n the 366 (not 388) produced by the police were smudgy and NOT CLEAR. Only the numbers for APC and PDP were clear. So now tell me. How do you fit all dat in. Also note that the accredited voters' figure is gotten from the card readers. So, except APC can produce a manual register and claim that was what was used in those 388 PUs, the present figures have to be accepted as the genuine one. 1 Like |
Re: Full Supreme Court Judgement On Imo Election. Pics by Blindersoff: 12:35pm On Jan 25, 2020 |
Agboriotejoye: The absolute power to disprove Uzodinma and the police combined rested on INEC squarely as the umpire. They had the yam and the knife but could not even do something as simple as that as the body all original electoral materials come from. If Uzodinma wrote those results himself why then did INEC not show proof that elections did not hold in the PUs? Did they? If they did, the judgment in full is in the OP so kindly show me. This then implies that the elections did hold in the PUs cancelled and if it did hold and the other agents refused to sign it could also be because they felt the margin was too high which in this case was understandable because those where Uzodinmas strongholds. The bottom line here is that INEC had no right to declare IHEDIOHA winner in the absence of results from 388 PUs as they claimed they had none in their possession. By law they should have demanded for a rerun. The fact that they still went ahead to declare IHEDIOHA winner in the light of all this clearly shows they were working for IHEDIOHA and PDP in IMO state because there is no rational behind that declaration. The Police and Uzodinma were not asked to show the documents were fake but the very umpire of the elections were asked to do so and this means the case was very much against Uzodinma yet INEC could not prove or disprove anything and despite this they had gone ahead to declare someone winner of an inconclusive election? If your gut still tells you Uzodinma colluded with the police and wrote the results when Inec also had recourse to incidence forms and counter evidence as the umpire then your gut needs purging. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Full Supreme Court Judgement On Imo Election. Pics by Agboriotejoye(m): 12:37pm On Jan 25, 2020 |
pquaver: Yes!! Good!! That's what I want to hear. By what you have said now, it means people don't need to write waec anymore. Just register online, find your way to Oluwole and Kaboom you have an incontrovertible result. Do you realize though that there are people in this country who actually do that and are working with those certificates. By this landmark judgments, all these fake WAEC have become new. All thanks to Tanko and APC zombies. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Full Supreme Court Judgement On Imo Election. Pics by Blindersoff: 12:39pm On Jan 25, 2020 |
Agboriotejoye: *Facepalm* If this is what you could deduce from what the guy you quoted said then you have really wailed your intelligence away. Very sad 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Full Supreme Court Judgement On Imo Election. Pics by Agboriotejoye(m): 12:42pm On Jan 25, 2020 |
Blindersoff: Did you not read where it was said that INEC's polling officers did not sign those results?? Read and understand na abi what is dis tori oloun 1 Like |
Re: Full Supreme Court Judgement On Imo Election. Pics by Agboriotejoye(m): 12:44pm On Jan 25, 2020 |
Blindersoff:The facepalm should rather belong to you who can't decipher 366 from 388. A zombified brain is hard to reason with anyway 1 Like |
Re: Full Supreme Court Judgement On Imo Election. Pics by CanadaOrBust: 12:58pm On Jan 25, 2020 |
Olaolufred: Maybe u didn’t see my post below. So I’m reposting it. Combine it with the fact that the documents made for impossible electoral math then ask yourself how such convoluted material could possibly be the SOLE basis for the prompt replacement of a sitting gov by the same man who came up with the said questionable materials! [[ The onus is on the SC to at least examine the documents (which were the SOLE reason for the judgment) before taking the absolutely extreme step of replacing a seating gov! You obviously did not read the respondent attorney’s submission that the documents were not even properly signed and were smudgy and incomplete. A simple cursory EXAMINATION would have revealed all that. Don’t you think that at least that should have been done before rushing ahead to replace a seating governor with the appellant based SOLELY on those same documents which were solely supplied by the appellant himself and which INEC had sworn were not authentic??!!]] |
Re: Full Supreme Court Judgement On Imo Election. Pics by Tonykanue(m): 1:06pm On Jan 25, 2020 |
Supreme Court has released its 45-page reasons for the judgment, it appears that the judgment was not supposed to be as controversial as it was, and a lot of minds will as soon be changed in favor of the judgment. CLICK LINK BELOW FOR DETAILS https://thenews-chronicle.com/how-inec-lawyers-ruined-ihediohas-case/ |
Re: Full Supreme Court Judgement On Imo Election. Pics by Olaolufred(m): 1:32pm On Jan 25, 2020 |
Agboriotejoye: Ihedioha needs to take INEC to court on the numbers that you alluded to as not adding up. INEC would have saved Ihedioha lots of headache by presenting all documents to disprove uzo's claim. SC is not in position to prove all the figures. SC will not even give a judgement beyond the case before it. But INEC messed up for muddling it up for themselves and Ihedioha. SC can't unduely be helping the defendants in a case they chose not to prove anything against the only verbal averment. Those were the assertions of the defense lawyers you mentioned in pages 14 to 22. They disagreed, but didn't prove their disagreement. They (the whole defense team) did well by all the references they made in their averment or disagreement. But failed 110% in proving anything. That's where the sky fell on them and their case. SC couldn't help if they had wanted to because they were abysmal not proving nothing. 1 Like |
Re: Full Supreme Court Judgement On Imo Election. Pics by Olaolufred(m): 2:09pm On Jan 25, 2020 |
Blindersoff: I don't think he read this judgement. He only browsed through to quickly come and reply you. SMH. 1 Like |
Re: Full Supreme Court Judgement On Imo Election. Pics by Olaolufred(m): 2:14pm On Jan 25, 2020 |
CanadaOrBust: The onus to explain any figure conjoured is on INEC. That's is why it is the duty of Ihedioha to take INEC to court. SC made judgement based on the case before it. Not on the figures INEC itself failed to prove. 1 Like |
Re: Full Supreme Court Judgement On Imo Election. Pics by Agboriotejoye(m): 2:27pm On Jan 25, 2020 |
Olaolufred: Forget!! Ihedioha is the beneficiary of INEC incompetence. He cannot take them to court. Like I told ur other zombie, INEC under Mahmoud Yakub is darn incompetent and Yakub needs to get the boot!! That said, from the SC judgment here, the SC relied on the electoral act which presumes that elections held as long as there is no proof to the contrary to admit the evidence into court negating its earlier stance that to prove that elections did not hold in PUs, you need evidence from PU agents in each PU. In other words, elections are presumed to have held. The question now is what is the evidence to prove that elections did not hold? Incidence forms? No result? Fake result? We can't say as that is left for the court to decide if the evidence you bring before it is enough to conclude whether elections did not truly hold. However, if INEC, tribunal and appeal court agree that an evidence is defective based on: 1. 366 results are tendered to cover for 388 PUs 2. Only the police and APC have the results 3. The results are not original copies but duplicate with INEC saying it does not have any original copies with them. 4. The results where not signed by INEC's PU agents 5. Only APC and PDP have legible scores in the result while the others are smudgy. How do we even know that Hope scored the highest in those when we can't see the scores of 2nd and 3rd position. 7. INEC the authorizing body for elections declared the results fake. The SC now says you don't need the originals and of course the duplicate originals do not need to be certified before they can be admitted. Can you imagine that?!! Just as I gave you example of WAEC certificates, what SC has done has opened grounds for proper rigging to begin to take place in party strongholds more than ever before. More importantly, if a result raises so much doubt, is it not safer to reject it than to admit it and open floodgates for other riggers to begin to contemplate carrying out such a far reaching exercise as unseating as sitting governor. Like I said, just aas you can't rob Uzodinma to pay ihedioha based on INEC's incompetence, you also can't rob Ihedioha to pay Uzodinma based on false results. 1 Like |
Re: Full Supreme Court Judgement On Imo Election. Pics by CanadaOrBust: 2:32pm On Jan 25, 2020 |
Olaolufred: Simply admit that any unbiased person with any sense of fairness and justice would fault this judgment. An electoral body swore in court that they never issued certain documents. Not only that, adding figures from said documents would make for funny electoral totals. YET, without even cursory examination of said documents and based SOLEY on them, the SC promptly replaced a sitting gov by the same man who came up with the said questionable documents and who came FOURTH in said election! |
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