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Re: Ongoing Constructions In UNN By Northern Companies! by mynaijaforumcom: 6:48am On Feb 03, 2020
Mahsums:

Kindly open the link and watch the short video clip attached (tetfund boss visit to ATBU Bauchi)
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Re: Ongoing Constructions In UNN By Northern Companies! by Mahsums: 6:52am On Feb 03, 2020
mynaijaforumcom:
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Re: Ongoing Constructions In UNN By Northern Companies! by Mahsums: 6:56am On Feb 03, 2020
RZArecta:
I triple dare you to prove me wrong, no easterner can get ANY construction contract in a Fed Northern university talk less of shipping entire labor force from east to the north. The ethnic bigot here is most likely you sir cool
U ar wrong
There's currently a massive 7storey library being constructed in ATBU Bauchi and the contractor is an igbo man
Re: Ongoing Constructions In UNN By Northern Companies! by wirinet(m): 6:57am On Feb 03, 2020
myobjective:


That is the nepotism we are talking about! All those universities project you see going on are Tetfund project and the past chairman of tetfund was from Bauchi, the present on is from Gombe. 99% of the contracts are given to unqualified northern contractors.

I am a civil engineer in the know of how most of these works are given to less qualified companies all because we have an irredeemable bigot as the president. There are companies handling more 20 companies when others more qualified don't have.

It is painful to have a country structured in this manner where crude oil tax revenue from the south is used to fund northern excesses, reasons why we must restructure or divide this country.

Your argument is neither here or there, as long as the companies pass through the tender process and the company is competent, then I don't care whomsoever they award the contract to. I will only have issues if the contract is awarded and paid for but not carried out or according to specifications.

Besides, locals don't have a good track record of completing projects. There are hundreds of projects awarded to locals all over the Niger delta by NDDC. The locals abandon the projects after collecting Mobilization fees. Many roads in the East and even west are awarded to powerful locals, they simply vanish after collecting mobilisation fees.

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Re: Ongoing Constructions In UNN By Northern Companies! by mynaijaforumcom: 7:02am On Feb 03, 2020
wirinet:


Your argument is neither here or there, as long as the companies pass through the tender process and the company is competent, then I don't care whomsoever they award the contract to. I will only have issues if the contract is awarded and paid for but not carried out or according to specifications.

Besides, locals don't have a good track record of completing projects. There are hundreds of projects awarded to locals all over the Niger delta by NDDC. The locals abandon the projects after collecting Mobilization fees. Many roads in the East and even west are awarded to powerful locals, they simply vanish after collecting mobilisation fees.
Are you saying that all the contracting companies from the North have integrity while none from the South and even the middle belt have intergrity and so all TETFUND projects will be awarded to Northern contractors, consultancy and management firms?
Re: Ongoing Constructions In UNN By Northern Companies! by mynaijaforumcom: 7:03am On Feb 03, 2020
Mahsums:

U ar wrong
There's currently a massive 7storey library being constructed in ATBU Bauchi and the contractor is an igbo man
Where is his firm located?
Re: Ongoing Constructions In UNN By Northern Companies! by mynaijaforumcom: 7:04am On Feb 03, 2020
Mahsums:

Kindly open the link and watch the short video clip attached (tetfund boss visit to ATBU Bauchi)
Sorry for the long link i couldn't shorten it
https://m.facebook.com/J.B.Maiauduga/posts/pcb.10222067525023676/?photo_id=10222067520543564&mds=%2Fphotos%2Fviewer%2F%3Fphotoset_token%3Dpcb.10222067525023676%26photo%3D10222067520543564%26profileid%3D100007825936854%26source%3D49%26_ft_%3Dmf_story_key.10222067525023676%253Aog_action_id.10222067527663742%253Atop_level_post_id.10222067525023676%253Atl_objid.10222067525023676%253Acontent_owner_id_new.1428493447%253Athrowback_story_fbid.10222067525023676%253Aphoto_attachments_list.[10222067522143604%252C10222067520023551%252C10222067520543564%252C10222067520863572%252C10222067521103578]%253Astory_location.4%253Astory_attachment_style.album%253Athid.1428493447%253A306061129499414%253A2%253A0%253A1583049599%253A-4174975544488649012%26__tn__%3DEH-R%26cached_data%3Dfalse%26ftid%3D&mdp=1&mdf=1
Was he implying that he wouldn't award contracts to Southern contractors because of an isolated event? Maybe I am wrong but it looks like it
Re: Ongoing Constructions In UNN By Northern Companies! by GreenArrow1(m): 7:25am On Feb 03, 2020
RZArecta:
I triple dare you to prove me wrong, no easterner can get ANY construction contract in a Fed Northern university talk less of shipping entire labor force from east to the north. The ethnic bigot here is most likely you sir cool

So, apart from ranting on Nairaland where No One in a position to properly address your current misgivings is reading what you are saying, what are you gonna do about it? Just remaining a little part of the wheel in the e-machine promoting online hate in the country? You think contracts like these are awarded at traditional council meetings?

I'm currently executing a federal government contract in the middle belt, which (in your own words have been awarded to a Yoruba firm). I have never come online to come and cry that my parent contracting firm are not from the middle belt.
Federal government contracts are bid for and awarded accordingly at Abuja and not based on tribe but on competency and the Nigerian factor of kick-backs. I have a few colleagues of Eastern and Southern extraction who work for bosses of same extraction that have or are currently executing projects in different parts of the country.
Lastly, yes, everyone uses abokis for construction work. No vex, they are ready and willing to work for reasonable pay with less qualms.
It's always better to use imported Labour for big projects in this country where people like you are ever ready to play the "na my place be this" card. Better for the contractor, better for project delivery, better for the client.
Drink some water.
Re: Ongoing Constructions In UNN By Northern Companies! by Nobody: 7:27am On Feb 03, 2020
RZArecta:
I triple dare you to prove me wrong, no easterner can get ANY construction contract in a Fed Northern university talk less of shipping entire labor force from east to the north. The ethnic bigot here is most likely you sir cool
I department i kaduna state university was constructed by an igbo man please stop saying what you dont know and if you dear me i will take a photo and send it to you
Re: Ongoing Constructions In UNN By Northern Companies! by Mahsums: 7:30am On Feb 03, 2020
mynaijaforumcom:
Was he implying that he wouldn't award contracts to Southern contractors because of an isolated event? Maybe I am wrong but it looks like it
No he was simply disappointed
Re: Ongoing Constructions In UNN By Northern Companies! by myobjective: 7:30am On Feb 03, 2020
mynaijaforumcom:
Are you saying that all the contracting companies from the North have integrity while none from the South and even the middle belt have intergrity and so all TETFUND projects will be awarded to Northern contractors, consultancy and management firms?

Don't mind him, they will continue to beat around the bush when the fact is starting in the face, sometimes I begin to wonder about the maturity of most contributor here on nairaland.

It has nothing to do with integrity and competency but who you know in Nigeria. Isn't a ironical that the most educational backwards regions tend to get everything? The reality is the most of the contractors are not even qualified to begin with
Re: Ongoing Constructions In UNN By Northern Companies! by mynaijaforumcom: 7:30am On Feb 03, 2020
GreenArrow1:


So, apart from ranting on Nairaland where No One in a position to properly address your current misgivings is reading what you are saying, what are you gonna do about it? Just remaining a little part of the wheel in the e-machine promoting online hate in the country? You think contracts like these are awarded at traditional council meetings?

I'm currently executing a federal government contract in the middle belt, which (in your own words have been awarded to a Yoruba firm). I have never come online to come and cry that my parent contracting firm are not from the middle belt.
Federal government contracts are bid for and awarded accordingly at Abuja and not based on tribe but on competency and the Nigerian factor of kick-backs. I have a few colleagues of Eastern and Southern extraction who work for bosses of same extraction that have or are currently executing projects in different parts of the country.
Lastly, yes, everyone uses abokis for construction work. No vex, they are ready and willing to work for reasonable pay with less qualms.
It's always better to use imported Labour for big projects in this country where people like you are ever ready to play the "na my place be this" card. Better for the contractor, better for project delivery, better for the client.
Drink some water.
https://m.facebook.com/J.B.Maiauduga/posts/pcb.10222067525023676/?photo_id=10222067520543564&mds=%2Fphotos%2Fviewer%2F%3Fphotoset_token%3Dpcb.10222067525023676%26photo%3D10222067520543564%26profileid%3D100007825936854%26source%3D49%26_ft_%3Dmf_story_key.10222067525023676%253Aog_action_id.10222067527663742%253Atop_level_post_id.10222067525023676%253Atl_objid.10222067525023676%253Acontent_owner_id_new.1428493447%253Athrowback_story_fbid.10222067525023676%253Aphoto_attachments_list.[10222067522143604%252C10222067520023551%252C10222067520543564%252C10222067520863572%252C10222067521103578]%253Astory_location.4%253Astory_attachment_style.album%253Athid.1428493447%253A306061129499414%253A2%253A0%253A1583049599%253A-4174975544488649012%26__tn__%3DEH-R%26cached_data%3Dfalse%26ftid%3D&mdp=1&mdf=1
Re: Ongoing Constructions In UNN By Northern Companies! by Mahsums: 7:32am On Feb 03, 2020
mynaijaforumcom:
Where is his firm located?
I don't know but i will check when i visit the site again
Re: Ongoing Constructions In UNN By Northern Companies! by GreenArrow1(m): 7:37am On Feb 03, 2020
mynaijaforumcom:
https://m.facebook.com/J.B.Maiauduga/posts/pcb.10222067525023676/?photo_id=10222067520543564&mds=%2Fphotos%2Fviewer%2F%3Fphotoset_token%3Dpcb.10222067525023676%26photo%3D10222067520543564%26profileid%3D100007825936854%26source%3D49%26_ft_%3Dmf_story_key.10222067525023676%253Aog_action_id.10222067527663742%253Atop_level_post_id.10222067525023676%253Atl_objid.10222067525023676%253Acontent_owner_id_new.1428493447%253Athrowback_story_fbid.10222067525023676%253Aphoto_attachments_list.[10222067522143604%252C10222067520023551%252C10222067520543564%252C10222067520863572%252C10222067521103578]%253Astory_location.4%253Astory_attachment_style.album%253Athid.1428493447%253A306061129499414%253A2%253A0%253A1583049599%253A-4174975544488649012%26__tn__%3DEH-R%26cached_data%3Dfalse%26ftid%3D&mdp=1&mdf=1

I'm not clicking nada. I just explained the current realities with my post. Anyone can decide to wake up to them or continue wallowing in denial. You own brother in the same house would deny you a contract if a Cameroonian offered him better kick-backs than you in this country. It's not about tribe.
Re: Ongoing Constructions In UNN By Northern Companies! by myobjective: 7:38am On Feb 03, 2020
wirinet:


Your argument is neither here or there, as long as the companies pass through the tender process and the company is competent, then I don't care whomsoever they award the contract to. I will only have issues if the contract is awarded and paid for but not carried out or according to specifications.

Besides, locals don't have a good track record of completing projects. There are hundreds of projects awarded to locals all over the Niger delta by NDDC. The locals abandon the projects after collecting Mobilization fees. Many roads in the East and even west are awarded to powerful locals, they simply vanish after collecting mobilisation fees.

Do you think you are talking to a novice here?
I am in the industry, I'm a registered structural engineer with more than 8years site and project management experience so don't bamboozled me with fake integrity. Northerners are as dubious as anyone and most contracts work these days are sold to cronies reasons why people from the region of Tetfund chairman will get most of the job.

I know have a company-owned by a man with no engineering or construction background and they 're currently working on more than 20 projects across the federation, most of their engineers are bearly qualified, are you going to tell me that his the best qualified for the job?
Re: Ongoing Constructions In UNN By Northern Companies! by oyatz(m): 7:41am On Feb 03, 2020
What about bringing Bricklayers and Tilers from Cotonou to Abuja, Lokoja, Benin or Onitsha?




mynaijaforumcom:

Might be. But I cannot quite see bringing people from Kano to carry blocks as a cost saving move.
Re: Ongoing Constructions In UNN By Northern Companies! by Asquare84(m): 7:44am On Feb 03, 2020
GreenArrow1:


So, apart from ranting on Nairaland where No One in a position to properly address your current misgivings is reading what you are saying, what are you gonna do about it? Just remaining a little part of the wheel in the e-machine promoting online hate in the country? You think contracts like these are awarded at traditional council meetings?

I'm currently executing a federal government contract in the middle belt, which (in your own words have been awarded to a Yoruba firm). I have never come online to come and cry that my parent contracting firm are not from the middle belt.
Federal government contracts are bid for and awarded accordingly at Abuja and not based on tribe but on competency and the Nigerian factor of kick-backs. I have a few colleagues of Eastern and Southern extraction who work for bosses of same extraction that have or are currently executing projects in different parts of the country.
Lastly, yes, everyone uses abokis for construction work. No vex, they are ready and willing to work for reasonable pay with less qualms.
It's always better to use imported Labour for big projects in this country where people like you are ever ready to play the "na my place be this" card. Better for the contractor, better for project delivery, better for the client.
Drink some water.

In the same UNN I have done a contract and I know what we passed through in the hand of the local, each time we table our problem to management of UNN the reply is "na so our people be ooo, we don't trust them ," infact the truth is that an ibo man will even prefer to relate with an outsider than their own
Re: Ongoing Constructions In UNN By Northern Companies! by GreenArrow1(m): 7:49am On Feb 03, 2020
Asquare84:


In the same UNN I have done a contract and I know what we passed through in the hand of the local, each time we table our problem to management of UNN the reply is "na so our people be ooo, we don't trust them ," infact the truth is that an ibo man will even prefer to relate with an outsider than their own

Leave all these people to keep ranting. They don't know why they post us outside our comfort zones to go and work. Is it not Igbo men and firms who are executing the massive green energy project at University of Agriculture Makurdi? Worked there briefly before leaving so I know what I'm talking about. Did anyone die or cry blue murder?
Re: Ongoing Constructions In UNN By Northern Companies! by edoairways: 7:51am On Feb 03, 2020
Asquare84:


See I have done a contract in UNN before, the contract was given to me by then V.C, proff bath okolo, probably then you are not in the university, but something keep stroking my mind, I mean the keep telling me " we don't trust our people" as contractor we knew what we face in the hand of the local both our staff and the host community. Then the dual express way that link the library/girls hostel down to the new school gate is under construction, look we will wake up in the morning to site and see our work scattered by wicked host community, expensive flowers planted are uprooted and cut into pieces, i can't remember how many times our geepee tank were stolen in UNN, not talking about arm robbers that personally trailed me to my house at odenigwe to Robb me. At a point we all went to Abuja to Scott for labourer that will give us rest of mind
That is one problem using host community to execute a project
Re: Ongoing Constructions In UNN By Northern Companies! by oyatz(m): 7:54am On Feb 03, 2020
The contract was awarded in Abuja. Many contractors bidded for it.

Most times, people from diverse ethnic groups collaborate to float or manage big companies like this to increase their national appeal.

The chairman of that construction company may be Tunde Folawiyo, Terry Wayas, Elisha Abbo, Emeka Offor or Sir Donald Abang.


#The main problem I have with this kind of issues is the centralization of the Nigerian political structure.


In true federalism, the FG has no business in awarding contracts or running universities. That contract could have been awarded by the Governing council of UNN.

Why should someone in Faraway Abuja be awarding contracts for projects in Ile-Ife, Ijebu-Ode, Nsukka or Birnin Kebbi?



mynaijaforumcom:
Again, it doesn't have to be Igbos. But let us keep in Mind that Igbos, people in Benue, Edo and all the closer locations are Nigerians as well. Not to mention that the project does not even have to be executed by a Nigerian company.
Re: Ongoing Constructions In UNN By Northern Companies! by GreenArrow1(m): 7:55am On Feb 03, 2020
edoairways:

That is one problem using host community to execute a project

Exactly! Mostly, when people call me for projects in other states, they, the clients usually end the call with an emphasis that I come with my entire team of workers to ensure a hitch-free execution. They usually say, these our boys are not serious and might cause you problems. I laugh because I hear that same statement regardless of any region I'm being summoned to.
Re: Ongoing Constructions In UNN By Northern Companies! by myobjective: 8:05am On Feb 03, 2020
GreenArrow1:


Leave all these people to keep ranting. They don't know why they post us outside our comfort zones to go and work. Is it not Igbo men and firms who are executing the massive green energy project at University of Agriculture Makurdi? Worked there briefly before leaving so I know what I'm talking about. Did anyone die or cry blue murder?

Makurdi is not that far from the east my friend, in fact, makurdi and Benue is geographically eastern Nigeria.

People are mixing things up, using northern artisans and labourer is different from giving northern own companies all the work
Re: Ongoing Constructions In UNN By Northern Companies! by myobjective: 8:08am On Feb 03, 2020
oyatz:
The contract was awarded in Abuja. Many contractors bidding for it.

Most times, people from diverse ethnic groups collaborate to float or manage big companies like this to increase their national appeal.

The chairman of that construction company may be Tunde Folawiyo, Terry Wayas, Elisha Abbo, Emeka Offor or Sir Donald Abang.


#The main problem I have with this kind of issues is the centralization of the Nigerian political structure.


In true federalism, the FG has no business in awarding contracts or running universities. That contract could have been awarded by the Governing council of UNN.

Why should someone in Faraway Abuja be awarding contracts for projects in Ile-Ife, Ijebu-Ode, Nsukka or Birnin Kebbi?




Yes, sir!
If I pay N20 in tax in Ibadan then my tax money should be used in Ibadan not shipped to Abuja in other to pay some northern marketers subsidy
Re: Ongoing Constructions In UNN By Northern Companies! by wirinet(m): 8:36am On Feb 03, 2020
myobjective:


Do you think you are talking to a novice here?
I am in the industry, I'm a registered structural engineer with more than 8years site and project management experience so don't bamboozled me with fake integrity. Northerners are as dubious as anyone and most contracts work [color=#990000]these days are sold to cronies
reasons why people from the region of Tetfund chairman will get most of the job. [/quote]
This is not an integrity contest, you have your own experiences in the construction industry, I have mine. You ended up agreeing with what I said, where your are mistaken is where you said these days. Nepotism and contract selling did not start these days, it had always been like that. Ministries and parastatals headed by northerners would award contracts mainly to northerners, those headed by easterners would award contracts to cronies, friends and families. That's why appointments into political offices are such a big issue in Nigeria. People lobby for their tribes men to get political appointments. Some of these cronies simply sell the contract papers to anyone willing to pay (who most of the time are unqualified). People have been selling contract papers at Abuja from time immemorial. I had a friend that got burnt buying DESOPADEC contract. He lost all his life savings buying a N50 million contract for 10% of the contract sum.


I know have a company-owned by a man with no engineering or construction background and they 're currently working on more than 20 projects across the federation, most of their engineers are bearly qualified, are you going to tell me that his the best qualified for the job?
This is very common at state, local and federal levels. The main road in Odogunyan was awarded to a political with no civil engineering experience. The road did not last 2 rainy seasons.
L

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Re: Ongoing Constructions In UNN By Northern Companies! by oyatz(m): 8:38am On Feb 03, 2020
Nairaland is a faceless forum. Some guys that haven't even bought a plot of land will be giving expert opinions on massive construction contracts.



I just completed a personal housing project in my hometown in Osun State.

I deeply regretted the parts that I gave to local artisans to do.

One guy collected my money for digging soakaway pit, dug like 1.5 meters and disappeared.

Even in my hometown, I had to go to Sabo and recruited Ayuba Takai and Danladi (both from Kano State) to complete the digging of soak away and waste pits. Many manual jobs were reassigned to these Hausa labourers.

They don't resume for work until around 10:00 am and they like to close by 5:00pm and will be expecting daily payment.

Some days, they may not even come giving silly excuses that they went for chieftaincy meetings or there were ceremonies in town for them to attend.

They will force you to work at their own pace (slow and more expensive) because they are in their own town, they are never in a hurry to meet any target.
They don't live in rented apartments, their foods are mostly sourced locally and their costs of living is very low.

Above all, they are also part-time farmers. They will use your time to go to farms and only come for your work at THEIR convinient time.



GreenArrow1:


So, apart from ranting on Nairaland where No One in a position to properly address your current misgivings is reading what you are saying, what are you gonna do about it? Just remaining a little part of the wheel in the e-machine promoting online hate in the country? You think contracts like these are awarded at traditional council meetings?

I'm currently executing a federal government contract in the middle belt, which (in your own words have been awarded to a Yoruba firm). I have never come online to come and cry that my parent contracting firm are not from the middle belt.
Federal government contracts are bid for and awarded accordingly at Abuja and not based on tribe but on competency and the Nigerian factor of kick-backs. I have a few colleagues of Eastern and Southern extraction who work for bosses of same extraction that have or are currently executing projects in different parts of the country.
Lastly, yes, everyone uses abokis for construction work. No vex, they are ready and willing to work for reasonable pay with less qualms.
It's always better to use imported Labour for big projects in this country where people like you are ever ready to play the "na my place be this" card. Better for the contractor, better for project delivery, better for the client.
Drink some water.
Re: Ongoing Constructions In UNN By Northern Companies! by wirinet(m): 8:44am On Feb 03, 2020
mynaijaforumcom:
Are you saying that all the contracting companies from the North have integrity while none from the South and even the middle belt have intergrity and so all TETFUND projects will be awarded to Northern contractors, consultancy and management firms?
No. I am saying that heads of ministries and parastatals in Nigeria don't factor in integrity when awarding contracts. They award contracts based on selfish interests, nepotism and tribalism. This apply to parastatals headed by all tribes and regions in Nigeria. If a Yoruba heads a parastatal most appointments into that parastatal would be from the Yoruba tribe and most contract would be awarded to Yoruba contractors. Ditto for igbos and Hausa Fulanis. It is we minorities that is a bit more liberal in political appointments.
Re: Ongoing Constructions In UNN By Northern Companies! by myobjective: 8:48am On Feb 03, 2020
wirinet:
reasons why people from the region of Tetfund chairman will get most of the job.
This is not an integrity contest, you have your own experiences in the construction industry, I have mine. You ended up agreeing with what I said, where you are mistaken is where you said these days. Nepotism and contract selling did not start these days, it had always been like that. Ministries and parastatals headed by northerners would award contracts mainly to northerners, those headed by easterners would award contracts to cronies, friends and families. That's why appointments into political offices are such a big issue in Nigeria. People lobby for their tribes men to get political appointments. Some of these cronies simply sell the contract papers to anyone willing to pay (who most of the time are unqualified). People have been selling contract papers at Abuja from time immemorial. I had a friend that got burnt buying DESOPADEC contract. He lost all his life savings buying an N50 million contract for 10% of the contract sum.


I know have a company-owned by a man with no engineering or construction background and they 're currently working on more than 20 projects across the federation, most of their engineers are bearly qualified, are you going to tell me that his the best qualified for the job?
This is very common at state, local and federal levels. The main road in Odogunyan was awarded to a political with no civil engineering experience. The road did not last 2 rainy seasons.
L


You are right to an extent.
Trust me this regime has taken it to the next level, it hasn't gotten this bad in the past.
Re: Ongoing Constructions In UNN By Northern Companies! by wirinet(m): 8:49am On Feb 03, 2020
oyatz:
Nairaland is a faceless forum. Some guys that haven't even bought a plot of land will be giving expert opinions on massive construction contracts.



I just completed a personal housing project in my hometown in Osun State.

I deeply regretted the parts that I gave to local artisans to do.

One guy collected my money for digging soakaway pit, dug like 1.5 meters and disappeared.

Even in my hometown, I had to go to Sabotage and recruited Ayuba Takai and Danladi (both from Kano State) to complete the digging of soak away and waste pits. Many manual jobs were reassigned to these Hausa labourers.

They don't resume for work until around 10:00 am and they like to close by 5:00pm and will be expecting daily payment.

Some days, they may not even come giving silly excuses that they went for chieftaincy meetings or there were ceremonies in town for them to attend.

They will force you to work at their own pace (slow and more expensive) because they are in their own town, they are never in a hurry to meet any target.
They don't live in rented apartments, their foods are mostly sourced locally and their costs of living is very low.

Above all, they are also part-time farmers. They will use your time to go to farms and only come for your work at THEIR convinient time.



My brother, some people sit in their homes or their parents home and give advice on issues they have no idea of.
Anyone that has experienced the trauma of working with locals (and this applies to everywhere in Nigeria ) would not blame people that import workers to do their civil works. Some even prefer to pay the locals for doing nothing than hire them.
Re: Ongoing Constructions In UNN By Northern Companies! by GreenArrow1(m): 9:02am On Feb 03, 2020
oyatz:
Nairaland is a faceless forum. Some guys that haven't even bought a plot of land will be giving expert opinions on massive construction contracts.



I just completed a personal housing project in my hometown in Osun State.

I deeply regretted the parts that I gave to local artisans to do.

One guy collected my money for digging soakaway pit, dug like 1.5 meters and disappeared.

Even in my hometown, I had to go to Sabo and recruited Ayuba Takai and Danladi (both from Kano State) to complete the digging of soak away and waste pits. Many manual jobs were reassigned to these Hausa labourers.

They don't resume for work until around 10:00 am and they like to close by 5:00pm and will be expecting daily payment.

Some days, they may not even come giving silly excuses that they went for chieftaincy meetings or there were ceremonies in town for them to attend.

They will force you to work at their own pace (slow and more expensive) because they are in their own town, they are never in a hurry to meet any target.
They don't live in rented apartments, their foods are mostly sourced locally and their costs of living is very low.

Above all, they are also part-time farmers. They will use your time to go to farms and only come for your work at THEIR convinient time.




You get the point.
Re: Ongoing Constructions In UNN By Northern Companies! by mu2sa2: 9:04am On Feb 03, 2020
myobjective:


Most Tetfund projects are awarded to northerners this is a fact, not because they have the capacity to do them but because of nepotism.

It is not the issue of being Igbo or Hausa it is being fair in an heterogeneous society like Nigeria. Among all the major groups in Nigeria, the north are the least qualified to handle any job if we are to go be strictly merit yet they get the best job all because we have a lopsided arrangement.

Baseless allegations not backed by facts and figures.
Re: Ongoing Constructions In UNN By Northern Companies! by GreenArrow1(m): 9:15am On Feb 03, 2020
myobjective:


Makurdi is not that far from the east my friend, in fact, makurdi and Benue is geographically eastern Nigeria.

People are mixing things up, using northern artisans and labourer is different from giving northern own companies all the work

You are missing the point. You are arguing based on a federal university contract awarded to a "Northen company" (whatever that means) in the East. I'm also pointing to a project in the North being executed by a Southern company. I worked for an Igbo sub-contractor handling one of the two arms of construction work. He wasn't a qualified construction professional and hence needed my professional certs and technical know-how as regards execution.
These things happen all over the country and giving it an ethnic coloration for the purposes of winning arguments just serves only one purpose - to win online arguments. Nothing more. That's a disservice to those who would want to see the current status-quo changed.
During the GEJ era, we worked in the Niger - Delta on many government projects. Awarded to who? Unqualified individuals who were being settled for political reasons and who did they sublet those contracts to after collecting their profit? Firms who offered the cheapest prices be they from the North or Taiwan!
Open your eyes, it's all about the money. That's the cost of Nigeria's democracy.
Don't make it about tribe!
Re: Ongoing Constructions In UNN By Northern Companies! by myobjective: 9:18am On Feb 03, 2020
oyatz:
Nairaland is a faceless forum. Some guys that haven't even bought a plot of land will be giving expert opinions on massive construction contracts.



I just completed a personal housing project in my hometown in Osun State.

I deeply regretted the parts that I gave to local artisans to do.

One guy collected my money for digging soakaway pit, dug like 1.5 meters and disappeared.

Even in my hometown, I had to go to Sabo and recruited Ayuba Takai and Danladi (both from Kano State) to complete the digging of soak away and waste pits. Many manual jobs were reassigned to these Hausa labourers.

They don't resume for work until around 10:00 am and they like to close by 5:00 pm and will be expecting daily payment.

Some days, they may not even come giving silly excuses that they went for chieftaincy meetings or there were ceremonies in town for them to attend.

They will force you to work at their own pace (slow and more expensive) because they are in their own town, they are never in a hurry to meet any target.
They don't live in rented apartments, their foods are mostly sourced locally and their costs of living is very low.

Above all, they are also part-time farmers. They will use your time to go to farms and only come for your work at a convenient time.




That is not the bone of convention here.
Basic economics dictate that the lest educated class do most of the menial job not because of their supposed integrity of hard work but because they don't have the skill to anything else, reasons why most of the cat pushers, bike riders and all other menial jobs are done by the least educated and unskilled demography of the population.

All over Nigeria, menial jobs are done by northerners because it makes economic sense but the same argument can't extend to the awarding of contracts to only northern own films.

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