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Why Are You Soo Igbo Yet Denying It by bashr4: 12:41pm On Dec 16, 2010
imo river runs from abia to the atlantic, the river niger is being dregded and runs straight into the atlantic also portharcourt conects with opobo which runs into the atlantic and both towns have igbo indigens , if ikwere people are not igbo how come they are members of ohanaeze ndi igbo, peter odili former governor was to run for president last election with igbo quota, the current governor is aware of his igbo origin so dont mind people that are fueling division among igbo , the denial was used after the civil war to prevent futher seizing of property and money by the fedral govt.

people still dont understand the difference between

igbos --- (anambra,enugu,imo abia,ebonyi, part of crossrivers,half of rivers, 1/3or delta,minute part of bayelsa and minute part of benue and edo),

south east nigeria--imo,anambra(95% and 5%igala)enugu,abia(90%,ogoni 10% ),ebonyi

south south--rivers(45%), delta(30%), bayelsa(less than 5%) crossrivers(5%) akwaibom(5%)and edo(about 1%)

biafran (acording to old map)-- the 5 south east states ,igbo part of delta and the remaining south south except edo state.
niger delta republic--rivers and bayelsa and ijaw part of delta since

niger delta--it consists of present day Bayelsa, Delta, and Rivers States. In 2000, however, Obansanjo's regime included Abia, Akwa-Ibom, Cross River State, Edo, Imo and Ondo States in the region. more than 40 ethnic groups including the Efik, Ibibio, Annang, Oron, Ijaw, Itsekiri, Igbo, Urhobo, Yoruba, and Kalabari, are among the inhabitants in the Niger Delta, speaking about 250 different dialects.

when people go about talking about igbos landlocked ask them if its true of what disadvantage is dat? , a lot of european and south american countries are landlocked but they are still among developed countries and high exporting nations of the world and that is why you have trade unions. if for example only south east leaves nigeria without thier southern brothers the land and transportation among the countries is still the same , you will still trnasport your product from anambra to lagos or port harcourt to ship it ,the same way a factory in kano and kastina will. the same levy you will pay is the same your paying as part of the country.





Question: Is Southeast and Igboland the same thing?

Answer: Not at all. Southeast is only about 3/5th of Igboland. Igboland covers the whole of Southeast, parts of Rivers, Delta, Benue, and Akwa Ibom states.

Question: Why were we taught in school that Igbo people are easterners?

Answer: It is both an unfortunate parroting by teachers and careless adoption by Igbo educated class. Igbo people come from Southern Nigeria and not Eastern Nigeria. It may be correct to say that the Igbo are found predominantly in eastern Nigeria. However, by saying that the Igbo are easterners, the implication is that the Igbo in western Nigeria, numbering about 2.5 million (Agbor, Ogwashi Ukwu, Ibuzo, Okpanam, Asaba, Orimili, Ndokwa, Anioma, etc) are not Igbos. The best known Igbo anthropologist Professor Mike Onwuejeogwu is from the western part of Nigeria, Chukwuma Nzeogwu, Dennis Osadebe, Okonkwo Adibe (the famous musician), Sony Odogwu, etc. are all from the western part of Nigeria. They are no less Igbo than those who live in the eastern part of Nigeria. The correct answer to your question is "the Igbo come from Southern Nigeria."

Question: Why do some Igbo refer to themselves as "core Igbo?"

Answer: That is clearly arrant nonsense. Nobody is core and others peripheral. All Igbo are the same. It is both arrogant, thoughtless and insensitive for anybody to regard others as marginal.

Question: Is Igboland landlocked?

Answer: Not at all. Igboland stretches from Igwe Ocha (Port Harcourt) to Agbor. The Atlantic ocean washes the shores of Igboland. Africa's second largest river - River Niger, traverses Igboland with one part of Igboland in the east and another part in the west of Nigeria. Uguta Lake has the potential of accommodating large ships and could be made a navigable port. If Igboland is landlocked, then all Nigeria is landlocked.

Question: Is there oil in Igboland?

Answer: Yes, indeed. There is a lot of oil in Imo State, Abia, Ebonyi, Rivers State and Delta States Igbo areas, and now in Anambra, ENUGU. Besides, Igboland has many other natural resources, including coal, limestone, etc.

Question: Are the Igbo a nation or a tribe?

Answer: The Igbo are a nation, and a very large one. There are many tribes in Igbo nation, just like you have many tribes within Israel.

Question: Why do some Ikwerre people say they are not Igbo?

Answer: First, it is not up to them to say what they are and what they are not. When God created them, He did not ask them who they wanted to be. He just created them Igbo. The only way you'll know who belongs to what ethnic group in Nigeria is the name and what language the name comes from. Anybody whose name is Amadi or Onyeri, or Eke, or Odili, Wanodi (Nwanodi) does not need to tell you who he is. He is Igbo, his politics notwithstanding.

Question: But they claim that their language is Ikwerre, not Igbo.

Answer: That is politics. Ikwerre is a dialect of Igbo language. Just like an Ngwa man speaks Ngwa Igbo, Arochukwu speaks Arochukwu Igbo, etc.

Question: Some people say that Igbo language is not complete, is it true?

Answer: No language is complete. All languages borrow from each other. Igbo language is very rich. It has inexhaustible and rich linguistic features like idioms, proverbs, aphorisms, sayings, anecdotes, riddles, folklores, etc. Igbo language is one of the major languages of the world, being spoken by millions of people.

Question: How many are the Igbo?

Answer: The Igbo are very numerous. There is educated guess that if Nigeria's census is properly enumerated, the Igbo could easily be the largest ethnic group in the country. They may number up to 40 million. Everything right now, is speculation. Nobody knows the true stratification or ethnic populations in Nigeria. The Igbo are the only ethnic group found in large numbers everywhere in Nigeria, and foreign countries more than any other ethnic group in Africa.

Question: Do the Igbo have a culture of their own?

Answer: Yes, indeed. Igbo culture is perhaps, one of the richest and all-encompassing cultures in this world. Igbo culture always observes the temporal and the spiritual aspects of cosmology. The study of Igbo culture reveals that it is extremely deep and original.

Question: Why do the Igbo wear Yoruba Agbada and Hausa babban riga but the Yoruba and the Hausa do not ever wear Igbo national dress?

Answer: Unfortunately this is the case. The Igbo have very attractive and resplendent national dresses. And they come in assortments that are extremely dignifying. The Igbo take up foreign cultures more readily than other Nigerians, and they seem not to care that nobody reciprocates their carefree attitude to life.


Question: Were the Igbo also taken into slavery during the slave trade?

Answer: Yes. The Igbo slaves themselves gave account of their travails in slavery. Olauda Ekwuano an Igbo ex-slave who bought his freedom in Britain was the first slave to write about his experience in slavery. His book has become a classic. You ought to find it and read it. Also, other Igbos who were brought to America revolted and some walked back on water and were said to have returned to Africa. Several books have been written about them. One of such books is "Ibo Landing." It is available in bookstores like Barnes & Noble. In Haiti, the Igbo settled there and refused to be colonized by anybody. There are many places where the Igbo left their mark or their signature.

Question: How did the Igbo know days and years?

Answer: The Igbo invented an accurate, if not the most accurate calendar called "Iguafo Igbo (Igbo Calendar)." In Igbo calendar, there are four market days - Eke, Afor, Nkwo, Orie that make one week. Four days make one week, seven weeks make one month, and thirteen months make one year. There are 28 days for each month, with the last month having 29 days. Each month starts the same day as the previous. Igbo calendar forms the perfect astronomical alignment with the cosmos, and regulates the seasons, agriculture, navigation, astrology, geography, mathematics, travel, etc.

Question: Did the Igbo have their own alphabets?

Answer: Yes, indeed. It is called "Nsibidi."

Question: How about mathematics; did the Igbo know mathematics?

Answer: Yes, indeed. There are such inventions as "Okwe" and "Mkpisi" which the Igbo used to resolve figures.

Question: Did the Igbo know anything about banking?

Answer: Yes. Igbo banking was more in the nature of Savings and Loans. The authentic Igbo savings and loans invention called "Isusu' in which contributions are pooled each week and one person, who has the need, collects, is still in practice. Igbo slaves took this invention to the Caribbean Islands where they still practise it and call it "Sue Sue."

Question: Some people say that Igboland is too small for the Igbo, that they have no alternative than to live as Nigerians: is this true?

Answer: False. Igboland is a large country. Do every Igbo need to stay and work in Igboland? No. Everywhere in the world, some will stay home while others venture abroad in search of opportunities. Igboland is large enough for the Igbo. And it is a very rich and hospitable part of the world. It has rich soil for agriculture, abundant rainfall, good sunshine, and table land in many parts. Its land space and population are more than that of over half of the present countries in the world.

Question: Where did the Igbo come from?

Answer: That question is still being asked. There are very intriguing theories or histories now being studied. You may have heard of the Jewish angle, the Egypt angle, and the Origin of man angle.
okigwe stone civilization date as far back as 6,000BC
AFIKPO AND NSUKKA METAL CIVILIZATION 3,000BC BOTH FOR ABOUT A MILLENIUM BEFORE THE FORMATION OF THE HEBREW NATION
OWERRI ,ANAMBRA, NRI , NGWA 8-18 AD



Question: Why do people say that the Igbo are not united?

Answer: Those who say so, do so out of ignorance. The Igbo are famous for their unity. In the colonial period and the First Republic of Nigeria, the Igbo were always envied for their unity. Under Igbo Union, they accomplished many things. They were feared by others for this. Since after the war, the Igbo are gradually recovering and getting rid of the individualism they developed brought about by their war experience which enabled them to survive as a disinherited people. Now, there are vigorous efforts to reunite them and return them to their old glory which served them well in the past.

Question: Some people say that the Igbo are susceptible to being bought by some other Nigerians, and that they "sell" the Igbo in the bargain; is this true?

Answer: The same parroting and recycling of unfounded talk. When you hear such a talk, challenge the one who is mouthing it to give you evidence, or to cite an example of such an Igbo person. He is likely to say "what of Jim Nwobodo?" Tell him that the Igbo number about 40 million, if it would be fair for the action of one person to represent the integrity of the other 3.99.9 million. The truth is that an Igbo is like any other human being, when he sees where he can take advantage of a situation, he goes for it. It has nothing to do with "selling." Were we not told that fish clusters where the river was deepest or that the dog follows he who has crumbs? Not long ago in the history of Nigeria, other Nigerians were also running after the Igbo for crumbs because the Igbo were in position to call the shots. Things will not remain as they are today. In fact, things are changing fast.

Question: Why are other Nigerians always persecuting the Igbo?

Answer: I have always tried to know myself. I am one of those who believe that the Igbo are among the most peaceful people on earth. But, because of the fact that they are very hardworking, ambitious, and not afraid to live anywhere, or take up any task, they tend to be resented by their less ambitious and successful neighbors or hosts. When you confront a non-Igbo to say what specific offense the Igbo have committed against them, oftentimes they draw blank, or engage in fabrications, which they insist must stand for a fact. The Igbo believe in live-and-let-live. It is virtually impossible for any Igbo to rise against their guests or hosts. It has never happened in Nigeria, or elsewhere. It is an abomination in Igboland for a host to cause his guest harm. Instead, a guest is considered metaphysically and physically under the protection of the host. All Igbo deities forbid doing harm to a guest. The Igbo are accused of "loving money." I suppose the charge is based on the fact that they work hard and acquire money in the bargain. One would like to believe that the outcome of hardwork is good harvest and hopefully prosperity. If anybody takes offense at the prosperity of a hardworking person, then the Igbo or for that matter any other person or persons, have no apologies to render.
Re: Why Are You Soo Igbo Yet Denying It by chyz(m): 12:53pm On Dec 16, 2010
It's better you close this thread down and reopen it in the Culture section.
Re: Why Are You Soo Igbo Yet Denying It by excanny: 2:57pm On Dec 16, 2010
Dude, i understand your enthusiasm for igbo affairs, but i must admit i find many of your threads too crude and irritating. I know you are new, and with time, you'll get more subtle.
Re: Why Are You Soo Igbo Yet Denying It by Onlytruth(m): 6:21pm On Dec 16, 2010
Hmm. This OP dude is highly educated.

I'm really impressed by his depth.
Re: Why Are You Soo Igbo Yet Denying It by aljharem(m): 7:17pm On Dec 16, 2010
@op

thanks for this post, we igbos are great people, and also wonderful in our thoughs unlike other angry

thank again cheesy

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Re: Why Are You Soo Igbo Yet Denying It by aljharem(m): 7:36pm On Dec 16, 2010
Ochi_Agha:

His zeal is commendable, but he should provide the link to the site in which he got his information. The reason why I say this is, because I have seen this information on an Igbo site.
shocked shocked shocked

then u can provide the link to our brother by posting it,, wink that's if u remember the link
Re: Why Are You Soo Igbo Yet Denying It by Nobody: 7:44pm On Dec 16, 2010
Absolute bunkum to suggest only ibos are hardworking and therefore resented by their less ambitious and less hardworking hosts! How dumb, perhaps this is the type of mindset that cause others to resent you.
The absolute disdain you have for your neighbors is certainly not a way to endear yourselves to them.
Re: Why Are You Soo Igbo Yet Denying It by bashr4: 8:10pm On Dec 16, 2010
excanny:

Dude, i understand your enthusiasm for igbo affairs, but i must admit i find many of your threads too crude and irritating. I know you are new, and with time, you'll get more subtle.
am not new and since when did educating fellow igbos become crude and irritating? do u ever see other tribes or igbos tribes mingling into yoruba or hausa affairs so why should you mingle into igbo affairs if your not igbo, i think you should learn something from this instead of futher condemnation.
if you have questions or need futher clearification on anything concerning igbos pls let me know ,thanks

Aigbofa:

Absolute bunkum to suggest only ibos are hardworking and therefore resented by their less ambitious and less hardworking hosts! How dumb, perhaps this is the type of mindset that cause others to resent you.
The absolute disdain you have for your neighbors is certainly not a way to endear yourselves t

sorry about that but am refering to after the civil war ,with total devastation and the loss of properties and seizure of money by the federal govenment ,every igbo man had t fend for themselve hence the statement, i know where your coming from but remeber the igbos did not label themselves that, other tribes did but some people use negative terms like they are too greedy or they too like money and can kill their mother for money and when you tell them to give you an instance of a person that killed his mother for money they start refering to nollywood movie like living in bondage.

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Re: Why Are You Soo Igbo Yet Denying It by okstol: 8:17pm On Dec 16, 2010
Aigbofa:
Absolute bunkum to suggest only ibos are hardworking and therefore resented by their less ambitious and less hardworking hosts! How dumb, perhaps this is the type of mindset that cause others to resent you.
The absolute disdain you have for your neighbors is certainly not a way to endear yourselves to them. Its a pity that you comprehend with your a.s.s. The lad said that Igbos are hard-working. So, its a now a crime for someone to be patriotic. Dude, visit a senile dementia therapist.

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Re: Why Are You Soo Igbo Yet Denying It by excanny: 12:11am On Dec 17, 2010
Onlytruth:

Hmm. This OP dude is highly educated.

I'm really impressed by his depth.

It's not original.
Re: Why Are You Soo Igbo Yet Denying It by Onlytruth(m): 12:30am On Dec 17, 2010
excanny:

It's not original.

Oops! shocked
My bad.
Guy should have added source. Interesting post all the same.
Re: Why Are You Soo Igbo Yet Denying It by excanny: 12:40am On Dec 17, 2010
alj harem:

@op

thanks for this post, we igbos are great people, and also wonderful in our thoughs unl.ke other angry

thank again cheesy


You want claim better thing. Who dash you Igbo?

You are not Igbo, my friend.

I think you are better suited being an Ewu Awusa/Desert rat.
Re: Why Are You Soo Igbo Yet Denying It by Dede1(m): 12:50am On Dec 17, 2010
okstol:

Aigbofa:
Absolute bunkum to suggest only ibos are hardworking and therefore resented by their less ambitious and less hardworking hosts! How dumb, perhaps this is the type of mindset that cause others to resent you.
The absolute disdain you have for your neighbors is certainly not a way to endear yourselves to them.

Its a pity that you comprehend with your a.s.s. The lad said that Igbos are hard-working. So, its a now a crime for someone to be patriotic. Dude, visit a senile dementia therapist.

Comprehension is not one of the Aigbofool’s fortes. The punk is a functional illiterate.
Re: Why Are You Soo Igbo Yet Denying It by matazzmagi(m): 1:12am On Dec 17, 2010
In tracing the sources of many Ibo customs, the investigator cannot help being struck with the similitude between them and some of the ideas and practices of the levitical code. The people are intensely religious." -- George T. Basden in "Notes on the Ibo country and Ibo people of Southern Nigeria." The Geographical Journal Vol. XXXIX No3. March 1912.
Re: Why Are You Soo Igbo Yet Denying It by udezue(m): 5:13am On Dec 17, 2010
@Alj Harem, u are better of claiming Goats not Igbo please.
Re: Why Are You Soo Igbo Yet Denying It by Freewilly(f): 5:21am On Dec 17, 2010
udezue:

@Alj Harem, u are better of claiming Goats not Igbo please.

That is an insult to Goats.

He is more like those black sheep (atulu)
Re: Why Are You Soo Igbo Yet Denying It by aljharem(m): 5:21am On Dec 17, 2010
udezue:

@Alj Harem, u are better of claiming Goats not Igbo please.

u dey craze u ur head angry angry

who si claiming when i was told by igbo elder(grand uncles) in anambra that i was igbo

whe is claiming angry
Re: Why Are You Soo Igbo Yet Denying It by aljharem(m): 5:22am On Dec 17, 2010
Freewilly:

That is an insult to Goats.

He is more like those black sheep (atulu)

just like u and ur family angry
Re: Why Are You Soo Igbo Yet Denying It by Freewilly(f): 5:23am On Dec 17, 2010
alj harem:

just like u and your family angry

grin grin grin
Re: Why Are You Soo Igbo Yet Denying It by aljharem(m): 5:25am On Dec 17, 2010
Freewilly:

grin grin grin
angry angry
Re: Why Are You Soo Igbo Yet Denying It by Freewilly(f): 5:27am On Dec 17, 2010
alj harem:

angry angry

come on nah don't be like that aboki, smile kiss
Re: Why Are You Soo Igbo Yet Denying It by aljharem(m): 5:40am On Dec 17, 2010
Freewilly:

come on nah don't be like that aboki, smile kiss
leave me, u don vex me angry
Re: Why Are You Soo Igbo Yet Denying It by Freewilly(f): 5:42am On Dec 17, 2010
^^^ Haba malam, magida na don't be like that  cry cry This is your hajiya you doing like this
Re: Why Are You Soo Igbo Yet Denying It by aljharem(m): 5:49am On Dec 17, 2010
Freewilly:

^^^ Haba malam, magida na don't be like that cry cry

it is ok sister, smiley u are forgiven

but i think we igbos should stop this "we are the best in everything" and focus on the things we are not good at. eg schools in the east are on strike etc

we should try to remove this unless governors in our states and work for a better society in the east were other groups in nigeia can come instead of lagos or abuja. undecided
Re: Why Are You Soo Igbo Yet Denying It by Nobody: 5:57am On Dec 17, 2010
So alj harem is Igbo?

I've been wondering since. You have the Igbo aurora . . . congrats grin
Re: Why Are You Soo Igbo Yet Denying It by aljharem(m): 5:59am On Dec 17, 2010
Ileke-IdI:

So alj harem is Igbo?

I've been wondering since. You have the Igbo aurora . . . congrats grin

so u noticed and u did not post cheesy
Re: Why Are You Soo Igbo Yet Denying It by Nobody: 6:00am On Dec 17, 2010
alj harem:

so u noticed and u did not post cheesy

hehehe. Now I did.

So are you also an Eze of [i]Obiala [/i]Igboland?
Re: Why Are You Soo Igbo Yet Denying It by aljharem(m): 6:02am On Dec 17, 2010
Ileke-IdI:

hehehe. Now I did.

So are you also an Eze of [i]Obiala [/i]Igboland?

by the grace of God, that's me wink
Re: Why Are You Soo Igbo Yet Denying It by Nobody: 6:03am On Dec 17, 2010
alj harem:

by the grace of God, that's me wink

You must be the most powerful Eze abi na Mazi of Igboland.

As you walk by, dem ppl must be shouting "Igwe!" grin
Re: Why Are You Soo Igbo Yet Denying It by aljharem(m): 6:14am On Dec 17, 2010
Ileke-IdI:

You must be the most powerful Eze abi na Mazi of Igboland.

As you walk by, dem ppl must be shouting "Igwe!" grin

gbam grin grin grin grin
Re: Why Are You Soo Igbo Yet Denying It by strangerf: 6:57am On Dec 17, 2010
Alj Harem, the ikemba gburu gburu gburu idemba igwe 1 of Arochukwu Igbo land

MAy you last oooooooooo

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