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Can Only Jesus Free You From Sin ? by frosbel2(m): 9:18am On Mar 14
In response to a comment made by Image123, the Apostle of the European Jesus

Image123:


Destroyed homes through immorality, killings, treachery and corruption are just a means to give power to external agents. Wake up reed and be free from sin. Jesus sacrifice delivered and still delivers from sins like the above mentioned. The reality of the great change from a sinner to a saint has saved many homes and lives from pain, misery and more darkness. These are not delusions but every day reality. Two cult boys(friends) in secondary school had the gospel preached to them 10years ago. One was saved and is today preaching and living a decent life and family. The other has since being in prisons and detentions, hurt many families, destroyed many youths, killed a few people and parades a vicious and sorry influence. You call that a delusion. You should be a comedian if you weren't so pathetic.

I often wonder what planet Christians are living on. They say that only Jesus can free us from sin and that many who once lived careless lives , now live decent lives, some are preachers and others have stable families etc. Indeed many were once drunks , chain smokers, robbers etc , but are now law abiding citizens. However, this change of heart is not peculiar to Jesus lovers. There are many non-christians who have said goodbye to their old ways and addicitive habits , and are now living upright, decent and morally admirable lives. So what ? What about Jesus ? Well these people are not born again or even Christians for that matter. They have been transformed by a change of heart, receiving good advice, learning from experience, corrected by punishment , and in response to the gentle nudging of their conscience.

Many muslims I know here in the UK are decent human beings and the same can be said of Sikhs, Hindus, Atheists and yes, Christian friends. They live lives worthy of emulation, not because of wealth or material things but outstanding behaviour. They are good role models despite the absense of JESUS in their profession.

What is so peculiar about Jesus , when most of us know at least 80% of the so called born again Nigerians are corrupt, peverse, hypocrites, viscious, judgemental, holier than thou, selfish and arrogant. Where is the Jesus in this;or does the blood cover all our sins yesterday, today and forever; therefore because we profess Jesus , we are more righteous than others. What a load of crap.

One of my best friends today is a Muslim. Very humble, hardworking, one wife and good kids and respectable conduct. I prefer him to many of my so called former Christian brothers whose only interest in me and my family was based on a fanatical adherence to their sect and it's man of god. I dont miss them, not one bit. Fair weather friends , all of them.

Jesus is not the only way to salvation , stop deluding your simple mind. Anyone who respects the laws of nature , and who responds positively to his or her innate consicent is 'BORN AGAIN' and saved. Dont let the Christian folk mesmerise you with their puzzling myths.

Now imagine what Image123 said about these so called saved ones. They actually KILLED people, DESTROYED many youth and HURT many families and just because of the BLOOD of Jesus they are walking and living as free men. No justice for the victims, Jesus has let them go, to hell with the victims. These are the sort of useless testimonies we hear in church nowadays. Who is the comedian here ? Without a doubt, Image123 and his European Jesus bandwagon.

cc ;
Image123
LordReed
BlueAngel444

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Re: Can Only Jesus Free You From Sin ? by LordReed(m): 10:15am On Mar 14
Its just a sad thing to watch, really. People whipping themselves into a frenzy for what is just natural phenomena. SMH

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Re: Can Only Jesus Free You From Sin ? by elated177: 10:29am On Mar 14
frosbel2:
In response to a comment made by Image123, the Apostle of the European Jesus


What is so peculiar about Jesus , when most of us know at least 80% of the so called born again Nigerians are corrupt, peverse, hypocrites, viscious, judgemental, holier than thou, selfish and arrogant. Where is the Jesus in this;or does the blood cover all our sins yesterday, today and forever; therefore because we profess Jesus , we are more righteous than others. What a load of crap.


Will you prefer an African, Australian, American or an Antarctican "Jesus"? Will that appeal to your emotions?

For the purpose of this discourse, I will be using the name of the Messiah, Yahushua. I guess he is the one you referred to as Jesus, unless, of course, you meant any Jesus in Spain.

Who is a born again according to Scriptures of YHVH Almighty? Do you, frosbel2, know? If you do know, can you highlight it here?


frosbel2:



One of my best friends today is a Muslim. Very humble, hardworking, one wife and good kids and respectable conduct. I prefer him to many of my so called former Christian brothers whose only interest in me and my family was based on a fanatical adherence to their sect and it's man of god. I dont miss them, not one bit. Fair weather friends , all of them.


Here you are trying to whip up unnecessary sentiments! It is really obvious you are looking to pitch one group against the other.


frosbel2:



Jesus is not the only way to salvation , stop deluding your simple mind. Anyone who respects the laws of nature , and who responds positively to his or her innate consicent is 'BORN AGAIN' and saved. Dont let the Christian folk mesmerise you with their puzzling myths.


According to the Scriptures of YHVH Almighty, Yahushua the Messiah is the only way to salvation. This is what any follower or servant of Yahushua the Messiah has come to accept and believe and boldly assert. Every other religion or group has the right to boldly assert their own. It should not result in violence. Let each group maintain their beliefs, convictions and assertions till the Last Day. Stop trying to whip up sentiments.

I ask you, who is Yahushua the Messiah?


What laws of nature are you on about? Mention some of them?



frosbel2:


Now imagine what Image123 said about these so called saved ones. They actually KILLED people, DESTROYED many youth and HURT many families and just because of the BLOOD of Jesus they are walking and living as free men. No justice for the victims, Jesus has let them go, to hell with the victims. These are the sort of useless testimonies we hear in church nowadays. Who is the comedian here ? Without a doubt, Image123 and his European Jesus bandwagon.


When an armed robber, a thief, a murderer, etc, is caught in the act, he or she must face the wrath of the law of the land and suffer for his or her crime. If, on the course of paying for his or her crime, he or she repents and turns to the Messiah, he or she will be forgiven and told to go and sin no more. This, however, does not mean he or she will not serve to the fullest his or her punishment as meted out by the state. Such a repentant being may need to make restitution if and where necessary.


A murderer, thief or an armed robber, who, though was not exposed or apprehended in the wicked act, heard the Word of life and accepted it and turned to the Messiah for salvation, has been forgiven. He or she has walked away from wickedness and will not do so again. He or she must make restitution if and where necessary.

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Re: Can Only Jesus Free You From Sin ? by frosbel2(m): 10:50am On Mar 14
elated177:


Will you prefer an African, Australian, American or an Antarctican "Jesus"? Will that appeal to your emotions?

For the purpose of this discourse, I will be using the name of the Messiah, Yahushua. I guess he is the one you referred to as Jesus, unless, of course, you meant any Jesus in Spain.

Who is a born again according to Scriptures of YHVH Almighty? Do you, frosbel2, know? If you do know, can you highlight it here?

Lol. The BLACK MAN knew of NO so called JESUS prior to the arrival of your ancestor's slave masters. Who is he messiah to ? Is the Jewish messiah now the African messiah as well ? Do you guys even have an original god that your forefathers worshipped, or were they worshipping demons until they received the European/Jewish bible ? If the later, it means all ancestors are LOST, every single one of them. SMH.


Here you are trying to whip up unnecessary sentiments! It is really obvious you are looking to pitch one group against the other.

On the contrary, I am proving a point. You don't have to be Christian to live a decent live or make morally upright choices.

Besides, your church is laden with groups pitted against other groups. It's part and parcel of the whole confusion called Christianity. No coherent position on most things to do with the European Jesus.


According to the Scriptures of YHVH Almighty, Yahushua the Messiah is the only way to salvation. This is what any follower or servant of Yahushua the Messiah has come to accept and believe and boldly assert. Every other religion or group has the right to boldly assert their own. It should not result in violence. Let each group maintain their beliefs, convictions and assertions till the Last Day. Stop trying to whip up sentiments.

I ask you, who is Yahushua the Messiah?

What laws of nature are you on about? Mention some of them?


This book that you so fanatically quote, do you know its origin ? Does it align with your tradition and culture ? Why was it only revealed to the black race over a millenia after the resurrection ? Surely if it was so vital for salvation it should have been revealed sooner , no ?


What laws of nature are you on about? Mention some of them?

What is natural is natural


When an armed robber, a thief, a murderer, etc, is caught in the act, he or she must face the wrath of the law of the land and suffer for his or her crime. If, on the course of paying for his or her crime, he or she repents and turns to the Messiah, he or she will be forgiven and told to go and sin no more. This, however, does not mean he or she will not serve to the fullest his or her punishment as meted out by the state. Such a repentant being may need to make restitution if and where necessary.

Same applies to all religions as well as normal secular society. Nothing novel about Christianity in this respect. Common sense to be honest.

A murderer, thief or an armed robber, who, though was not exposed or apprehended in the wicked act, heard the Word of life and accepted it and turned to the Messiah for salvation, has been forgiven. He or she has walked away from wickedness and will not do so again. He or she must make restitution if and where necessary.

Same applies to most religions as well as normal secular society. Nothing novel about Christianity in this respect. Common sense to be honest.
Re: Can Only Jesus Free You From Sin ? by elated177: 11:11am On Mar 14
frosbel2:


Lol. The BLACK MAN knew of NO so called JESUS prior to the arrival of your ancestor's slave masters. Who is he messiah to ? Is the Jewish messiah now the African messiah as well ? Do you guys even have an original god that your forefathers worshipped, or were they worshipping demons until they received the European/Jewish bible ? If the later, it means all ancestors are LOST, every single one of them. SMH.




On the contrary, I am proving a point. You don't have to be Christian to live a decent live or make morally upright choices.

Besides, your church is laden with groups pitted against other groups. It's part and parcel of the whole confusion called Christianity. No coherent position on most things to do with the European Jesus.



This book that you so fanatically quote, do you know its origin ? Does it align with your tradition and culture ? Why was it only revealed to the black race over a millenia after the resurrection ? Surely if it was so vital for salvation it should have been revealed sooner , no ?



What is natural is natural



Same applies to all religions as well as normal secular society. Nothing novel about Christianity in this respect. Common sense to be honest.



Same applies to most religions as well as normal secular society. Nothing novel about Christianity in this respect. Common sense to be honest.


Would you say you have actually tackled my questions?

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Re: Can Only Jesus Free You From Sin ? by frosbel2(m): 1:35pm On Mar 14
elated177:



Would you say you have actually tackled my questions?

As much as you deserved, yes.....

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Re: Can Only Jesus Free You From Sin ? by BlueAngel444: 3:31pm On Mar 14
frosbel2:
In response to a comment made by Image123, the Apostle of the European Jesus



I often wonder what planet Christians are living on. They say that only Jesus can free us from sin and that many who once lived careless lives , now live decent lives, some are preachers and others have stable families etc. Indeed many were once drunks , chain smokers, robbers etc , but are now law abiding citizens. However, this change of heart is not peculiar to Jesus lovers. There are many non-christians who have said goodbye to their old ways and addicitive habits , and are now living upright, decent and morally admirable lives. So what ? What about Jesus ? Well these people are not born again or even Christians for that matter. They have been transformed by a change of heart, receiving good advice, learning from experience, corrected by punishment , and in response to the gentle nudging of their conscience.

Many muslims I know here in the UK are decent human beings and the same can be said of Sikhs, Hindus, Atheists and yes, Christian friends. They live lives worthy of emulation, not because of wealth or material things but outstanding behaviour. They are good role models despite the absense of JESUS in their profession.

What is so peculiar about Jesus , when most of us know at least 80% of the so called born again Nigerians are corrupt, peverse, hypocrites, viscious, judgemental, holier than thou, selfish and arrogant. Where is the Jesus in this;or does the blood cover all our sins yesterday, today and forever; therefore because we profess Jesus , we are more righteous than others. What a load of crap.

One of my best friends today is a Muslim. Very humble, hardworking, one wife and good kids and respectable conduct. I prefer him to many of my so called former Christian brothers whose only interest in me and my family was based on a fanatical adherence to their sect and it's man of god. I dont miss them, not one bit. Fair weather friends , all of them.

Jesus is not the only way to salvation , stop deluding your simple mind. Anyone who respects the laws of nature , and who responds positively to his or her innate consicent is 'BORN AGAIN' and saved. Dont let the Christian folk mesmerise you with their puzzling myths.

Now imagine what Image123 said about these so called saved ones. They actually KILLED people, DESTROYED many youth and HURT many families and just because of the BLOOD of Jesus they are walking and living as free men. No justice for the victims, Jesus has let them go, to hell with the victims. These are the sort of useless testimonies we hear in church nowadays. Who is the comedian here ? Without a doubt, Image123 and his European Jesus bandwagon.

cc ;
Image123
LordReed
BlueAngel444
Jesus's blood frees from the eternal consequences of sin, instead of us continuing to sacrifice goats and rams like our forefathers used to.

You are blaming the Europeans for bringing Jesus to you, hope you know that how you think now is also due to their influence undecided

You asked who is the comedian? shocked ain't you one cheesy at least you amuse me.

You don't even know what being born again truly means, granted you may have heard some crap about it --- it's seems like a child who heard a little about algebra and now sounds like he could solve integration.

Just look at your statements about born again @bolded. I am not defending self righteous Christians but then again when you pick up stones to throw make sure you are better than those you throw them at.

Now answer since you are so wise
Do you know the laws of nature?
Who defines the laws of nature?
Do you obey all the laws of nature?
What is conscience and why does that benefits a person's survival? undecided
Is it only Nigerians that are corrupt? Yes or no?
Have you never heard of a decent person murder, steal to survive, etc etc? Yes or no?
Have you meant anyone morally perfect?
Are you morally perfect?
Can anyone force you to do or say the right thing? Yes or No?
Have you ever read the gospels?
Have you ever tried practicing forgiveness to those who hate you and have hurt you?
Re: Can Only Jesus Free You From Sin ? by FemiEddy(m): 3:46pm On Mar 14
elated177:



Would you say you have actually tackled my questions?
.
Hey, servant of Yah! Enough! Stop casting pearls before swines. Shalom brother

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Re: Can Only Jesus Free You From Sin ? by frosbel2(m): 4:06pm On Mar 14
^

"What is so peculiar about Jesus , when most of us know at least 80% of the so called born again Nigerians are corrupt, peverse, hypocrites, viscious, judgemental, holier than thou, selfish and arrogant "

Your so called pearls are pigs food in the land of the living.

cheesy

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Re: Can Only Jesus Free You From Sin ? by frosbel2(m): 9:00pm On Mar 14
or salvation is of the Jews only and Jesus came ONLY for the lost house of Israel.

So why are we deceiving ourselves.
Re: Can Only Jesus Free You From Sin ? by frosbel2(m): 9:02pm On Mar 14
^^^ Copy and Paste BOT !

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Re: Can Only Jesus Free You From Sin ? by MrPresident1: 9:08pm On Mar 14
frosbel2:
^^^ Copy and Paste BOT !


Just click on the report button, hang a number on his neck and click report, you will not see his long winding epistle anymore

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Re: Can Only Jesus Free You From Sin ? by elated177: 9:31pm On Mar 14
FemiEddy:
.
Hey, servant of Yah! Enough! Stop casting pearls before swines. Shalom brother

It is ok!

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Re: Can Only Jesus Free You From Sin ? by elated177: 9:32pm On Mar 14
frosbel2:


As much as you deserved, yes.....


Mtchee...eew!

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Re: Can Only Jesus Free You From Sin ? by frosbel2(m): 10:14pm On Mar 14
elated177:



Mtchee...eew!

Good. Lol
Re: Can Only Jesus Free You From Sin ? by oaroloye(m): 10:32pm On Mar 14
MISHIGAS!

frosbel2:

In response to a comment made by Image123, the Apostle of the European Jesus

LORD YESHUA AND THE HEBREW RACE WERE ALL BLACK PEOPLE- MANY PEOPLE ARE STILL TO RUN THE MATH ON THIS ONE.

Also, there is no way that anyone in The Bible could have been named JEHOVAH, JACOB, JOSHUA, JONAH, JOSEPH, JESUS, or JAMES, because the letter "J" was not invented until 500 years ago.

About the same time the Oyinbos started saying that the Lord was a White, like them.

[quote author=frosbel2 post=87429841]
I often wonder what planet Christians are living on. They say that only Jesus can free us from sin and that many who once lived careless lives , now live decent lives, some are preachers and others have stable families etc. Indeed many were once drunks , chain smokers, robbers etc , but are now law abiding citizens.

. MATTHEW 6:19-24.

19. "Lay not up for yourselves
Treasures upon Earth,
where moth and rust
doth corrupt,
and where Thieves
break through and Steal:
20. "But lay up for yourselves
Treasures in Heaven,
where neither moth nor rust
doth corrupt,
and where Thieves
do not break through
nor Steal:
21. "For where your
Treasure is,
there will your heart be also.
22. "The Light of the Body
is the Eye:
if therefore thine eye
be single,
thy whole Body
shall be full of Light.
23. "But if thine Eye be Evil,
thy whole Body
shall be full of Darkness.
If therefore the Light
that is in thee
be Darkness,
how great is that Darkness!
24. "No man can
serve two masters:
for either
he will hate the one,
and love the other;
or else he will
hold to the one,
and despise the other.
Ye cannot serve
God and mammon."

A CHRISTIAN SERVES GOD- NOT SOCIETY- WHAT UNBELIEVERS THINK OF US IS IRRELEVANT, BECAUSE THE ONLY APPROVAL THAT MATTERS IS THAT OF GOD.

frosbel2:

However, this change of heart is not peculiar to Jesus lovers. There are many non-christians who have said goodbye to their old ways and addicitive habits , and are now living upright, decent and morally admirable lives. So what ? What about Jesus ? Well these people are not born again or even Christians for that matter. They have been transformed by a change of heart, receiving good advice, learning from experience, corrected by punishment , and in response to the gentle nudging of their conscience.

WHAT THEY HAVE DONE IS NOTHING MORE THAN THEIR DUTY- NOTHING TO BRAG ABOUT, AT ALL!

. LUKE 17:1-10.

THEN Said he
unto the Disciples,

"It is impossible but that
offences will come:
but woe unto him,
through whom they come!
2. "It were better for him
that a millstone
were hanged about his neck,
and he cast into the Sea,
than that he should offend
one of these little ones.
3. "Take heed to yourselves:
If thy Brother trespass
against thee,
Rebuke him;
and if he Repent,
Forgive him.
4. "And if he trespass
against thee
seven times in a day,
and seven times in a day
turn again to thee,
saying,

'I REPENT;'

thou shalt forgive him."

5. And the Apostles said
unto the Lord,

"Increase our Faith."

6. And the Lord said,

"If ye had Faith
as a grain of mustard seed,
ye might say unto this Sycamine tree,

'BE THOU PLUCKED UP
BY THE ROOT,
AND BE THOU PLANTED
IN THE SEA;'


7. "But which of you,
having a servant
plowing or feeding cattle,
will say unto him by and by,
when he is come from the field,

'GO AND SIT DOWN TO MEAT?'

8. "And will not rather say unto him,

'MAKE READY
WHEREWITH I MAY SUP,
AND GIRD THYSELF,
AND SERVE ME,
TILL I HAVE EATEN
AND DRUNKEN;
AND AFTERWARD THOU
SHALT EAT AND DRINK?'


9. "Doth he thank that servant
because he did the things
that were commanded him?
I trow not.
10. "So likewise ye,
when ye shall have done
all those things
which are Commanded you,
say,

'WE ARE
UNPROFITABLE SERVANTS:
WE HAVE DONE THAT
WHICH WAS OUR
DUTY TO DO.' "


frosbel2:

Many muslims I know here in the UK are decent human beings and the same can be said of Sikhs, Hindus, Atheists and yes, Christian friends.

NO ONE WHO DOES NOT SERVE YAHWEH GOD IS A " DECENT HUMAN BEING- THEY ARE NOTHING BUT THE CHAFF THAT THE WIND WILL BLOW AWAY.

.     EXODUS 20:1-7.

AND God Spake
all these Words,
Saying,

2. "I (am) The LORD thy God,
Which have brought thee
out of The Land of Egypt,
out of The House of Bondage.

3. "Thou shalt have
no other gods before Me.

4. "Thou shalt not
make unto thee
any graven image,
or any likeness (of any thing)
that (is) in the Earth beneath,
or that (is) in the Water
under the Earth:
5. "Thou shalt not
bow down thyself to them,
nor serve them:
for I The LORD thy God
(am) a Jealous God,
visiting the iniquity
of the fathers
upon the third and fourth (generation)
of them that Hate Me.
6. "And shewing Mercy
unto thousands of them
which Love Me,
and Keep My Commandments.

7. "Thou shalt not
take The Name
of The LORD thy God
in vain;
for The LORD will not
hold him guiltless
that taketh His Name
in vain."

frosbel2:

They live lives worthy of emulation, not because of wealth or material things but outstanding behaviour. They are good role models despite the absense of JESUS in their profession.

. MATTHEW 25:13-30.

13. "Watch therefore,
for ye know neither
the Day nor the Hour wherein
The Son of Man cometh.
14. "For The Kingdom of Heaven
is as a man travelling
into a far country,
who called his own servants,
and delivered unto them
his goods.
15. "And unto one
he gave five talents,
to another two,
and to another one;
to every man according to
his several ability;
and straightway
took his journey.
16. "Then he that had
received the five talents
went and traded
with the same,
and made them
other five talents.
17. "And likewise he
that had received two,
he also gained other two.
18. "But he that had
received one
went and digged in the earth,
and hid his lord's money.
19. "After a long time
the lord of those servants cometh,
and reckoneth with them.
20. "And so he that had
received five talents
came and brought
other five talents,
saying,

'LORD,
THOU DELIVEREDST
UNTO ME FIVE TALENTS:
BEHOLD,
I HAVE GAINED
BESIDE THEM
FIVE TALENTS MORE.'


21. "His lord
said unto him,

'WELL DONE,
THOU GOOD
AND FAITHFUL SERVANT:
THOU HAST BEEN
FAITHFUL OVER
A FEW THINGS,
I WILL MAKE THEE RULER
OVER MANY THINGS:
ENTER THOU INTO
THE JOY OF THY LORD.'


22. "He also that had
received two talents
came and said,

'LORD,
THOU DELIVEREDST
UNTO ME TWO TALENTS:
BEHOLD,
I HAVE GAINED
TWO OTHER TALENTS
BESIDE THEM.'


23. "His lord
said unto him,

'WELL DONE,
GOOD AND FAITHFUL SERVANT;
THOU HAST BEEN
FAITHFUL OVER
A FEW THINGS,
I WILL MAKE THEE RULER
OVER MANY THINGS:
ENTER THOU INTO
THE JOY OF THY LORD.'


24. "Then he which had
received the one talent
came and said,

'LORD,
I KNEW THEE
THAT THOU ART
AN HARD MAN,
REAPING WHERE
THOU HAST NOT SOWN,
AND GATHERING
WHERE THOU HAST
NOT STRAWED:
25. AND I WAS AFRAID,
AND WENT AND HID
THY TALENT IN THE EARTH:
LO, THERE THOU HAST
THAT IS THINE.'


26. "His lord answered
and said unto him,

'THOU WICKED
AND SLOTHFUL SERVANT,
THOU KNEWEST
THAT I REAP
WHERE I SOWED NOT,
AND GATHER WHERE
I HAVE NOT STRAWED:
27. 'THOU OUGHTEST THEREFORE
TO HAVE PUT MY MONEY
TO THE EXCHANGERS,
AND THEN AT MY COMING
I SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED
MINE OWN WITH USURY.
28. 'TAKE THEREFORE
THE TALENT FROM HIM,
AND GIVE IT UNTO HIM
WHICH HATH TEN TALENTS.
29. 'FOR UNTO EVERY ONE
THAT HATH
SHALL BE GIVEN,
AND HE SHALL
HAVE ABUNDANCE:
BUT FROM HIM
THAT HATH NOT
SHALL BE TAKEN AWAY
EVEN THAT WHICH HE HATH.
30. 'AND CAST YE
THE UNPROFITABLE SERVANT
INTO OUTER DARKNESS:
THERE SHALL BE
WEEPING AND GNASHING
OF TEETH.'


There is something God requires of us, that goes beyond what other men are satisfied with.

If He does not get It, God has us discarded like garbage.

oaroloye:

. THE TEN TALENTS OF POWER. (Matt. 25.)

1. TOTAL RECALL.
2. EXTRASENSORY PERCEPTION.
3. TELEKINESIS.
4. TELEPORTATION.
5. TRANSLATION.
6-10. EVERLASTING LIFE.


frosbel2:

What is so peculiar about Jesus , when most of us know at least 80% of the so called born again Nigerians are corrupt, peverse, hypocrites, viscious, judgemental, holier than thou, selfish and arrogant. Where is the Jesus in this;or does the blood cover all our sins yesterday, today and forever; therefore because we profess Jesus , we are more righteous than others. What a load of crap.

The Ten Talents is the summary of what God has tried to Teach in The Scriptures.

Few have listened and understood His Message.

frosbel2:

One of my best friends today is a Muslim. Very humble, hardworking, one wife and good kids and respectable conduct. I prefer him to many of my so called former Christian brothers whose only interest in me and my family was based on a fanatical adherence to their sect and it's man of god.

YOU WERE A HYPOCRITE, WHO ONLY TOLERATED THE COMPANY OF OTHER HYPOCRITES, UNTIL YOU COULDN'T.

You hated True Believers, and made it clear that you would no longer tolerate your Frenemies, should they have become True Christians.

.. LUKE 16:1-15.

AND he said also unto his Disciples,

"There was a certain rich man,
which had a steward;
and the same was accused unto him
that he had wasted his goods.
2. "And he called him,
and said unto him,

'HOW IS IT THAT
I HEAR THIS OF THEE?
GIVE AN ACCOUNT
OF THY STEWARDSHIP;
FOR THOU MAYEST BE
NO LONGER STEWARD.'


3. "Then the steward said
within himself,

'WHAT SHALL I DO?
FOR MY LORD
TAKETH AWAY FROM ME
THE STEWARDSHIP:
I CANNOT DIG,
TO BEG I AM ASHAMED.
4. 'I AM RESOLVED
WHAT TO DO,
THAT, WHEN I AM
PUT OUT OF THE STEWARDSHIP,
THEY MAY RECEIVE ME
INTO THEIR HOUSES.'


5. "So he called every one
of his lord's debtors unto him,
and said unto the first,

'HOW MUCH OWEST THOU
UNTO MY LORD?'


6. "And he said,

'AN HUNDRED MEASURES OF OIL.'

And he said unto him,

'TAKE THY BILL,
AND SIT DOWN QUICKLY,
AND WRITE FIFTY.'


7. "Then said he to another,

'AND HOW MUCH
OWEST THOU?'


And he said,

'AN HUNDRED MEASURES OF WHEAT.'

And he said unto him,

'TAKE THY BILL,
AND WRITE FOURSCORE.'


8. "And the lord commended
the Unjust Steward,
because he had done wisely:
for the Children of this World
are in their Generation
wiser than the Children of Light.
9. "And I Say unto you,

'MAKE TO YOURSELVES FRIENDS
OF THE MAMMON
OF UNRIGHTEOUSNESS;
THAT, WHEN YE FAIL,
THEY MAY RECIEVE YOU
INTO EVERLASTING HABITATIONS.'


10. "He that is Faithful
in that which is Least
is Faithful also in Much:
and he that is Unjust
in the Least
is Unjust also in Much.
11. "If therefore ye have not been
Faithful in the Unrighteous Mammon,
who will commit to your trust
The True Riches?
12. "And if ye have not
been Faithful
in that which is
another man's,
who shall give you
that which is your own?
13. "No Servant can
serve two Masters:
for either he will hate the one,
and love the other;
or else he will hold to the one,
and despise the other.
Ye cannot serve God and Mammon."

14. And the Pharisees also,
who were Covetous,
heard all these things,
and they derided him.
15. And he Said unto them,

"Ye are they
which justify yourselves
before Men;
but God knoweth
your hearts:
for that which is
Highly Esteemed
amongst Men
is Abomination
in The Sight of God."

frosbel2:

I dont miss them, not one bit. Fair weather friends , all of them.

.. LUKE 16:1-15.

AND he said also unto his Disciples,

"There was a certain rich man,
which had a steward;
and the same was accused unto him
that he had wasted his goods.
2. "And he called him,
and said unto him,

'HOW IS IT THAT
I HEAR THIS OF THEE?
GIVE AN ACCOUNT
OF THY STEWARDSHIP;
FOR THOU MAYEST BE
NO LONGER STEWARD.'


3. "Then the steward said
within himself,

'WHAT SHALL I DO?
FOR MY LORD
TAKETH AWAY FROM ME
THE STEWARDSHIP:
I CANNOT DIG,
TO BEG I AM ASHAMED.
4. 'I AM RESOLVED
WHAT TO DO,
THAT, WHEN I AM
PUT OUT OF THE STEWARDSHIP,
THEY MAY RECEIVE ME
INTO THEIR HOUSES.'


5. "So he called every one
of his lord's debtors unto him,
and said unto the first,

'HOW MUCH OWEST THOU
UNTO MY LORD?'


6. "And he said,

'AN HUNDRED MEASURES OF OIL.'

And he said unto him,

'TAKE THY BILL,
AND SIT DOWN QUICKLY,
AND WRITE FIFTY.'


7. "Then said he to another,

'AND HOW MUCH
OWEST THOU?'


And he said,

'AN HUNDRED MEASURES OF WHEAT.'

And he said unto him,

'TAKE THY BILL,
AND WRITE FOURSCORE.'


8. "And the lord commended
the Unjust Steward,
because he had done wisely:
for the Children of this World
are in their Generation
wiser than the Children of Light.
9. "And I Say unto you,

'MAKE TO YOURSELVES FRIENDS
OF THE MAMMON
OF UNRIGHTEOUSNESS;
THAT, WHEN YE FAIL,
THEY MAY RECIEVE YOU
INTO EVERLASTING HABITATIONS.'


10. "He that is Faithful
in that which is Least
is Faithful also in Much:
and he that is Unjust
in the Least
is Unjust also in Much.
11. "If therefore ye have not been
Faithful in the Unrighteous Mammon,
who will commit to your trust
The True Riches?
12. "And if ye have not
been Faithful
in that which is
another man's,
who shall give you
that which is your own?
13. "No Servant can
serve two Masters:
for either he will hate the one,
and love the other;
or else he will hold to the one,
and despise the other.
Ye cannot serve God and Mammon."

14. And the Pharisees also,
who were Covetous,
heard all these things,
and they derided him.
15. And he Said unto them,

"Ye are they
which justify yourselves
before Men;
but God knoweth
your hearts:
for that which is
Highly Esteemed
amongst Men
is Abomination
in The Sight of God."

frosbel2:

Jesus is not the only way to salvation , stop deluding your simple mind.

DON'T TALK AS IF YOU KNOW MORE THAN YOU DO- GIVE EXAMPLES OF OTHER GODS WHO CAN SAVE AS LORD YESHUA SAVES!

. LUKE 7:19-23.

19. And John calling unto him
two of his Disciples
sent them to Jesus,
saying,

"ART THOU
HE THAT SHOULD COME?
OR LOOK WE
FOR ANOTHER?"


20. When the men
were come unto him,
they said,

"John Baptist hath
sent us unto thee,
saying,

'ART THOU
HE THAT SHOULD COME?
OR LOOK WE
FOR ANOTHER?' "


21. And in that same hour
he cured many
of their Infirmities and Plagues,
and of Evil Spirits;
and unto many that were blind
he gave sight.
22. Then Jesus answering
Said unto them,

"Go your way,
and tell John what things
ye have seen and heard;
how that the Blind See,
the Lame Walk,
the Lepers are Cleansed,
the Deaf Hear,
the Dead are Raised,
to the Poor The Gospel is preached.
23. "And Blessed is he,
whosoever shall not be
offended in me."

YOU CAN'T BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW ANY!

frosbel2:

Anyone who respects the laws of nature , and who responds positively to his or her innate consicent is 'BORN AGAIN' and saved.

ONLY THE REBIRTH OF THE BAPTISMAL WATER AND OF THE SPIRIT OF GOD MEAN ANYTHING SIGNIFICANT!

. JOHN 3:1-21.

THERE was a man of the Pharisees,
named Nicodemus,
a Ruler of the Jews:
2. The same came to Jesus
by night,
and said unto him,

"Rabbi, we know
that thou art a Teacher
come from God:
for no man can do
these Miracles
that thou doest,
except God be with him."

3. Jesus answered
and Said unto him,

"Verily, verily,
I Say unto thee,

'EXCEPT A MAN
BE BORN AGAIN,
HE CANNOT SEE
THE KINGDOM OF GOD.'


4. Nicodemus saith unto him,

"How can a man be born
when he is old?
Can he enter the second time
into his mother's womb,
and be born?"

5. Jesus answered,

"Verily, verily,
I Say unto thee,

'EXCEPT A MAN BE BORN
OF WATER AND OF THE SPIRIT,
HE CAN NOT ENTER INTO
THE KINGDOM OF GOD.'


6. "That which is Born
of the Flesh
is flesh;
and that which is Born
of The Spirit
is spirit.
7. "Marvel not
that I Said unto thee,

'YE MUST BE
BORN AGAIN.'


8. "The wind bloweth
where it listeth,
and thou hearest
the sound thereof,
but canst not tell
whence it cometh,
and whither it goeth:
so is every one
that is Born of The Spirit."

9. Nicodemus answered
and said unto him,

"How can these things be?"

10. Jesus answered
and Said
unto him,

"Art thou a Master of Israel,
and knowest not
these things?
11. "Verily, verily,
I Say unto thee,

'WE SPEAK
THAT WE DO KNOW,
AND TESTIFY
THAT WE HAVE SEEN;
AND YE RECEIVE NOT
OUR WITNESS.'


12. "If I have told you
Earthly Things,
and ye believe not,
how shall ye believe,
if I tell you
of Heavenly Things?
13. "And no man
hath ascended up to Heaven,
but he that came down
from Heaven,
even The Son of Man
which is in Heaven.
14. "And as Moses lifted up
the Serpent in the Wilderness,
even so must The Son of Man
be lifted up:
15. "That whosoever
believeth in him
should not perish,
but have Eternal Life.
16. "For God so loved
the World,
that He gave
His only Begotten Son,
that whosoever
believeth in him
should not Perish,
but have Everlasting Life.
17. "For God sent not His Son
into the World
to Condemn the World;
but that the World through him
might be Saved.
18. "He that believeth in him
is not Condemned:
but he that believeth not
is Condemned Already,
because he hath not
believed in
The Name of The Only
Begotten Son of God.
19. "And this is The Condemnation,

'THAT LIGHT IS COME
INTO THE WORLD,
AND MEN LOVED DARKNESS
RATHER THAN LIGHT,
BECAUSE THEIR DEEDS
WERE EVIL.'


20. "For every one
that doeth Evil
hateth The Light,
neither cometh
to The Light,
lest his deeds
should be reproved.
21. "But he that doeth Truth
cometh to The Light,
that his deeds
may be manifest,
that they are
wrought in God."

"BORN AGAIN" IN NORTHERN ARAMAIC MEANS: "TO CHANGE ONE'S THOUGHTS AND HABITS." NICODEMUS SPOKE SOUTHERN ARAMAIC, AND HENCE DID NOT UNDERSTAND JESUS. [Footnote to JOHN 3:3,5 in the Lamsa Peshitta Bible.]

IF YOU ARE NOT BORN AGAIN, YOU CANNOT SEE THE KINGDOM OF GOD.

It emerges that NICODEMUS HAD HEARD CORRECTLY: we MUST return to pur Mother's Wombs, and be BORN AGAIN, in order to enter into THE KINGDOM OF GOD!

[See: DIANETICS: The Modern Science of Mental Health, by L. Ron Hubbard.]
Re: Can Only Jesus Free You From Sin ? by frosbel2(m): 10:57pm On Mar 14
^^

Nobody reads your incoherent ramblings.

Be careful before you lose your mind.

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Re: Can Only Jesus Free You From Sin ? by Eviana(f): 2:14am On Mar 15
CAN ONLY JESUS FREE ME FROM MY SINS?

ANSWER=YES!


Matthew 1:21 (KJV)
21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name Jesus: for he shall save his people from their sins


1 John 1:9 (KJV)
9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

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Re: Can Only Jesus Free You From Sin ? by frosbel2(m): 11:11am On Mar 15
Eviana:
CAN ONLY JESUS FREE ME FROM MY SINS?

ANSWER=YES!


Matthew 1:21 (KJV)
21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name Jesus: for he shall save his people from their sins


1 John 1:9 (KJV)
9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

And what is the evidence that you are saved from your sins besides quoting from your slave master's book.

If this forgiveness of sins is so potent , then we have to wonder why the Nigerian church ( not to mention Nigeria as a whole ) is ridden with moral scandal after moral scandal.
Re: Can Only Jesus Free You From Sin ? by elated177: 3:02pm On Mar 15
frosbel2:


Good. Lol

Good? He/she even lol!


You are feather weight. You spouted a lot of penny dreadful stuff and I asked you a few questions and you dodged all of them.

If you are the best that Satan has to raise in order to use you to attack the Set-apart Scriptures of YHVH Almighty, then he has nothing as usual.

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Re: Can Only Jesus Free You From Sin ? by frosbel2(m): 3:08pm On Mar 15
elated177:


Good? He/she even lol!


You are feather weight. You spouted a lot of penny dreadful stuff and I asked you a few questions and you dodged all of them.

If you are the best that Satan has to raise in order to use you to attack the Set-apart Scriptures of YHVH Almighty, then he has nothing as usual.

I am not competing with you to be heavy weight , lol. You are an intellectual, I am not.

I answered your questions to the extent that they deserved at least a one liner. It was not worth additional time.

Satan ? Attack ? Almighty ? Victimhood mentality again and again, lol.

You will be surprised to realise that I believe in the creator but not the exclusive, siloed, carved out god of your delusional religion that pits itself against all other religions and unbelievers.

Come back to reality Pal.

cool
Re: Can Only Jesus Free You From Sin ? by elated177: 3:20pm On Mar 15
frosbel2:


I am not competing with you to be heavy weight , lol. You are an intellectual, I am not.

I answered your questions to the extent that they deserved at least a one liner. It was not worth additional time.

Satan ? Attack ? Almighty ? Victimhood mentality again and again, lol.

You will be surprised to realise that I believe in the creator but not the exclusive, siloed, carved out god of your delusional religion that pits itself against all other religions and unbelievers.

Come back to reality Pal.

cool


Spare me the false humility. As far as atheism is concerned, you are a feather weight. I have said it already, the best of you, atheists, cannot stand me.


Here you are again! Always trying to PITCH the followers of YHVH Almighty against other groups. You are a true offspring of your father, the serpent. Always trying to whip up sentiments.

You don't believe in the Creator. Stop deluding yourself.

Come back to what reality?

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Re: Can Only Jesus Free You From Sin ? by frosbel2(m): 3:31pm On Mar 15
elated177:


Spare me the false humility. As far as atheism is concerned, you are a feather weight. I have said it already, the best of you, atheists, cannot stand me.

I am not an atheist DUH !! grin

Stand you ? Because you are a mobile concordance of mythical rubbish ? Spare me the jokes.


Here you are again! Always trying to PITCH the followers of YHVH Almighty against other groups. You are a true offspring of your father, the serpent. Always trying to whip up sentiments.

On the contrary, I highlighted the exclusivity of your Christian god who is ONLY for Christians to the detriment of all other creatures. Further, even within your so called CHURCH, you guys can't decide on who is following the true faith or corrupting the true faith. Half of your folk condemn the other half to the lake of fire and the other half thinks the other half is raving mad. Keep the comedy going, its hilarious. cheesy

You don't believe in the Creator. Stop deluding yourself.

Not your virgin birth, trinity , snake talking creator for sure.... wink

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Re: Can Only Jesus Free You From Sin ? by elated177: 3:46pm On Mar 15
frosbel2:


On the contrary, I highlighted the exclusivity of your Christian god who is ONLY for Christians to the detriment of all other creatures. Further, even within your so called CHURCH, you guys can't decide on who is following the true faith or corrupting the true faith. Half of your folk condemn the other half to the lake of fire and the other half thinks the other half is raving mad. Keep the comedy going, its hilarious. cheesy

)


Who is a born again, according to the Scriptures? Who is a follower of Yahushua the Messiah?
Re: Can Only Jesus Free You From Sin ? by elated177: 3:46pm On Mar 15
frosbel2:


I am not an atheist DUH !! grin



You are not an atheist? What do you believe in? What are your beliefs?


frosbel2:


Stand you ? Because you are a mobile concordance of mythical rubbish ? Spare me the jokes.


What mythical rubbish?
Re: Can Only Jesus Free You From Sin ? by frosbel2(m): 3:47pm On Mar 15
elated177:



Who is a born again, according to the Scriptures? Who is a follower of Yahushua the Messiah?

African or Jewish scriptures, which one are you referring to ?

My ancestors knew of no Yahushua.

Are you a black hebrew Israelite ?
Re: Can Only Jesus Free You From Sin ? by Eviana(f): 3:52pm On Mar 15
frosbel2:


And what is the evidence that you are saved from your sins besides quoting from your slave master's book.

If this forgiveness of sins is so potent , then we have to wonder why the Nigerian church ( not to mention Nigeria as a whole ) is ridden with moral scandal after moral scandal.



Well, I thank God I wasn't born a slave back during those times, because honestly, I do not think I would have lived.
Perhaps too outspoken about certain things..
I think they would've thrown me overboard on the journey from Africa over to the U.S.

To your second paragraph, well that's a question that Nigerians in Nigeria would need to assess.
Christ offers forgiveness to those that recognize their need of Him...through FAITH that He is Who He said He is and sacrificed Himself for us.

It is a daily sanctification process.
However, uncoverted people exist in all religions.

Professors only by "mouth" and not lifestyle exist in Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, and idigenous religions too...I'm quite sure of that.
Church and state should be separated.
Morality starts at HOME.
Then trickles to church...then to community...then to government.

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Re: Can Only Jesus Free You From Sin ? by elated177: 3:53pm On Mar 15
frosbel2:


African or Jewish scriptures, which one are you referring to ?

My ancestors knew of no Yahushua.

Are you a black hebrew Israelite ?


The Scriptures of YHVH Almighty, of course.

Who were your ancestors?

I am a full-blooded Nigerian, Igbo to be precise. You?
Re: Can Only Jesus Free You From Sin ? by frosbel2(m): 3:57pm On Mar 15
elated177:



The Scriptures of YHVH Almighty, of course.

Who were your ancestors?

I am a full-blooded Nigerian, Igbo to be precise. You?

Lol. Igbo but not your kind of Igbo. Imo State to be precise.

My type of Igbo do not believe in the IGBO JEWISH ORIGIN nonsense.

We are our own perculiar people.
Re: Can Only Jesus Free You From Sin ? by elated177: 4:12pm On Mar 15
frosbel2:


Lol. Igbo but not your kind of Igbo. Imo State to be precise.

My type of Igbo do not believe in the IGBO JEWISH ORIGIN nonsense.

We are our own perculiar people.

What do you mean not my kind of Igbo? Are there different types of Igbo? Igbo wu Igbo.

I have said it so many times; YHVH Almighty loves all his children. The Body of the Messiah, his Son, is made up of different races, tribes, languages, ethnicities. No one, irrespective of color or language, who goes to Yahushua the Messiah will he drive away. However, if the Igbos are of one, two or more tribes of Israel, YHVH Almighty, our Father and Creator, knows and will reveal it at his own set time. If they are not, it does not take anything away from them.

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